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« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2019, 01:10:42 pm »

If Guv says it I'll believe it.

It's not an issue!
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« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2019, 01:10:49 pm »

I used to agree Morris needed 3 years.  But at what expense?  This the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald!!!
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« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2019, 01:11:16 pm »


.....hiring is the going to be the sticky part.......



Because we always do it the wrong way?

Who's turn is it to get their ego stroked this time?

Keep boosters and their inflated egos (and their fake "committees") out of it. BOT members need to stick to education matters and rubber stamp the hire their AD makes

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« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2019, 01:11:51 pm »


Yeah. I was wrong about that. I also thought Long would survive.


I feel pretty confident though IF Chad wins 3 or 4 more games though, he won't be fired.


I don't think he will win 3 or 4 more games though.
I would agree with that, i just dont see it. Ceiling for this team with Chad is 4 wins. And although Piss State is horrid, I bet they still beat this fragile team. The GotY will be when Western Kentucky comes to town. Will be one last chance for Ty Story to win a game in Fayetteville. He is o-fer currently, but, I bet he finds a way...
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« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2019, 01:14:11 pm »

Write a contract properly, please. Failure to achieve .500 winning %, which is the minimum winning %, will result in contract termination with no buyout. Any coach who won't sign doesn't believe in their abilities to do the job


spot on bro
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« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2019, 01:15:30 pm »

We have one player in the transfer portal, Bush. He hasnít been happy since heís been here, remember, heís enrolling early, heís not, he did. Heís the the reason Vance de-committed, itís been expected for awhile.


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« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2019, 01:17:05 pm »

Well, we could be 6-0 and I would expect to lose others, itís a different game being played these days.

same game for every program

poor little Chaggy and his excuse makers

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« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2019, 01:25:09 pm »

I know this.....if HY continues to let the football program go as is.....his days will be numbed as well.   There are some folks that are just down right pissed off right now.

Are these "folks" the same ones drooling and clapping like seals over Bobby Petrino's visit in LR?

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« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2019, 01:27:14 pm »

I know this.....if HY continues to let the football program go as is.....his days will be numbed as well.   There are some folks that are just down right pissed off right now.
I numb myself on game days....

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« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2019, 01:29:03 pm »

Are these "folks" the same ones drooling and clapping like seals over Bobby Petrino's visit in LR?

Probably it's everyone who's been watching this train wreck. We hired Chad to bring an offensive football team to the hill, but instead we just have a team that is offensive. I have accepted that this is just a poorly coached team and there is zero evidence at this point that would suggest next year will be anything but more of the same.

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« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2019, 01:54:00 pm »

I used to agree Morris needed 3 years.  But at what expense?  This the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald!!!

Yeah, Chad is a ďlightfootĒ, er, I mean lightweight.
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« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2019, 01:54:49 pm »

I numb myself on game days....

 :)   Nicely done there......my bad.  Can't spell.  (numbered)
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« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2019, 01:55:43 pm »

As someone said above, there are a lot of games left to be played but Chad will need to do something special to flip the script on the fanbase.

Upsetting Western Kentucky or Missouri probably won't be enough to move the needle.  He needs to find a way to beat one of the ranked teams we face to give people some real hope.  He would have survived had he just won the games he was supposed to (SJSU) and maybe Ole Miss.  But losing to SJSU means the season is in a very deep hole that will take something special to dig himself out of. 
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« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2019, 01:56:17 pm »


Yeah. I was wrong about that. I also thought Long would survive.


I feel pretty confident though IF Chad wins 3 or 4 more games though, he won't be fired.


I don't think he will win 3 or 4 more games though.


If he gets to 4 wins total I would wager he is safe.

If he wins 4 or 5 I would bet my house he's safe. However, don't make a bowl in 2020 and the seat will be scorching.
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« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2019, 01:59:37 pm »

no outside coach can look at this and think Morris has been treated unfairly if he's let go... if he finishes with 4 wins in two years, there is not a single redemption to point at and say "look! see that right there? thats progress"

noone can look at this and reasonably think we're in the wrong if this goes down

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« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2019, 02:05:45 pm »

But have we ever seen a recovery from this type of movement?

Nance transferred last year, and we survived. 
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« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2019, 02:06:32 pm »

As someone said above, there are a lot of games left to be played but Chad will need to do something special to flip the script on the fanbase.

Upsetting Western Kentucky or Missouri probably won't be enough to move the needle.  He needs to find a way to beat one of the ranked teams we face to give people some real hope.  He would have survived had he just won the games he was supposed to (SJSU) and maybe Ole Miss.  But losing to SJSU means the season is in a very deep hole that will take something special to dig himself out of. 

When beating Western Kentucky is considered an upset, youíve said all that needs to be said.

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« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2019, 02:07:04 pm »

no outside coach can look at this and think Morris has been treated unfairly if he's let go... if he finishes with 4 wins in two years, there is not a single redemption to point at and say "look! see that right there? thats progress"

noone can look at this and reasonably think we're in the wrong if this goes down


spot on! And any coach who thinks "They fire in year two, I won't get a fair shake at Arkansas" is a guy we don't want anyway.


We need someone to come in and be geniune, not have to read his notes from a peice of paper (since he knows the game and knows what he's doing) and someone who will declare that "these kids are all my players, today, as I signed the contract, today" - there will be no excuses about someone "not being my players" - "they're all my players, day one"

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« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2019, 02:08:52 pm »

Boys their ain't no way Chad gets year 3..........Fan base is gone, Boosters are gone, media has turned, players transferring and recruits decommitting.   The writing is on the wall and please quit with the buyout is to much crap.  This is division 1 SEC college football that has more money than WELLS Fargo so just stop with that crap!!!!  The powers at be bring that up because they don't want to go thru another coaching search and i understand it but it's their job and so roll your sleeves up and go to work.  Chad is as good as gone, i wish they would just go ahead and do it and tell the players and recruits that we are gonna hire them a quality coach.

I believe people who want CCM gone are trying to build a groundswell of momentum to force him out.  There are still 3 winnable games out there.  (Mississippi State, WK, and Mizzou).  A lot could happen between now and the day after Thanksgiving.  Yes, we could lose out this year, and I believe that would be the end of CCM at Arkansas, but that is not a done deal as of 10/15/19.  Maybe $12 million or so is not a lot of money to Jerry Jones or the University of Arkansas, but it is to me and to most Hog fans.
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« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2019, 02:17:50 pm »

I believe people who want CCM gone are trying to build a groundswell of momentum to force him out.  There are still 3 winnable games out there.  (Mississippi State, WK, and Mizzou).  A lot could happen between now and the day after Thanksgiving.  Yes, we could lose out this year, and I believe that would be the end of CCM at Arkansas, but that is not a done deal as of 10/15/19.  Maybe $12 million or so is not a lot of money to Jerry Jones or the University of Arkansas, but it is to me and to most Hog fans.

in what world is Missouri winnable?

They are ranked higher than any team we have currently played... and we're only 2-4 after playing ZERO FBS teams with winning records.

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« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2019, 02:27:23 pm »

The buyout:

The buyout would be due in one payment of $...million at the time of firing?  Or would it be paid over installments and when Morris got another job the amount of the payments would be reduced?

I don't think Arkansas has to come up with $12 million (or whatever it actually ends up being as it has a % attached to it).
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« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2019, 02:27:49 pm »

I believe people who want CCM gone are trying to build a groundswell of momentum to force him out.  There are still 3 winnable games out there.  (Mississippi State, WK, and Mizzou).  A lot could happen between now and the day after Thanksgiving.  Yes, we could lose out this year, and I believe that would be the end of CCM at Arkansas, but that is not a done deal as of 10/15/19.  Maybe $12 million or so is not a lot of money to Jerry Jones or the University of Arkansas, but it is to me and to most Hog fans.

Chad is the one who has built the momentum......No one else.

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« Reply #72 on: October 15, 2019, 02:43:05 pm »

There should be an annulment clause in these dang contracts, sop.
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« Reply #73 on: October 15, 2019, 02:44:19 pm »

The buyout:

The buyout would be due in one payment of $...million at the time of firing?  Or would it be paid over installments and when Morris got another job the amount of the payments would be reduced?

I don't think Arkansas has to come up with $12 million (or whatever it actually ends up being as it has a % attached to it).

$1200 a month for 10k years, done.

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« Reply #74 on: October 15, 2019, 02:46:24 pm »

Media is the biggest signaler.  Trust those winds.  Much stronger than they were for say MA.  Would not surprise me at all if a plan is in place because if you are firing him after 2 years you better have a solid plan & list in place & that doesnít happen overnight

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« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2019, 03:00:31 pm »


Upsetting Western Kentucky

Oh my.
Talk about Hammered Down!
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« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2019, 03:14:08 pm »

Nance transferred last year, and we survived.

Did we survive? Or did he survive?

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« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2019, 05:41:20 pm »

I hurt ricepig's feelings

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« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2019, 05:47:11 pm »

We do have some financial issues right now but t I didnít ask Jeff to mortgage our near term future on the NEZ project.

They should have listened to David Pryor.

Pryor is a savvy person who knows how things operate in the real world.
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« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2019, 05:53:10 pm »

I believe people who want CCM gone are trying to build a groundswell of momentum to force him out.  There are still 3 winnable games out there.  (Mississippi State, WK, and Mizzou).
We have a better chance beating Auburn than Mizzou.

And we have no chance of beating Auburn.

Mizzou will win by 3 scores, or more.
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« Reply #80 on: October 15, 2019, 06:13:06 pm »

I hurt ricepig's feelings

How? I donít care one way or another if heís here next year, lol. Iím just telling you a few facts.
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« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2019, 06:13:53 pm »

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« Reply #82 on: October 15, 2019, 06:14:06 pm »

We have a better chance beating Auburn than Mizzou.

And we have no chance of beating Auburn.

Mizzou will win by 3 scores, or more.
I hope Little Rock ENJOYS EVERY SECOND OF THE BEAT-DOWN when it happens.
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« Reply #83 on: October 15, 2019, 06:15:03 pm »

They should have listened to David Pryor.

Pryor is a savvy person who knows how things operate in the real world.

He knew Bielema and Morris would suck as coaches?

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« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2019, 06:19:58 pm »

I hope Little Rock ENJOYS EVERY SECOND OF THE BEAT-DOWN when it happens.
I hope I am terribly wrong.

I just don't think I am.
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« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2019, 06:25:47 pm »

How? I donít care one way or another if heís here next year, lol. Iím just telling you a few facts.

 :)


Even if you're a player on the team, you don't know what some other player is thinking

I'd bet 90% of the roster were surprised at his announcement

Hog fans claiming insider knowledge should become some kind of new crypto currency
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« Reply #86 on: October 15, 2019, 06:27:54 pm »

Nance transferred last year, and we survived. 
Did we really?  Seems like we are losing a lot of games and possible only 2 or 3 wins.  Weíve had a lot of injuries to the WR Corp.  I think a play maker of his caliber would have helped a lot.
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« Reply #87 on: October 15, 2019, 06:28:33 pm »

:)


Even if you're a player on the team, you don't know what some other player is thinking

I'd bet 90% of the roster were surprised at his announcement

Hog fans claiming insider knowledge should become some kind of new crypto currency

Ok, thanks for clearing that up, glad youíre the answer for everything.
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« Reply #88 on: October 15, 2019, 06:30:03 pm »

Ok, thanks for clearing that up, glad youíre the answer for everything.


so I did hurt your feelings

I'm sorry
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« Reply #89 on: October 15, 2019, 06:31:21 pm »

Boys their ain't no way Chad gets year 3..........Fan base is gone, Boosters are gone, media has turned, players transferring and recruits decommitting.   The writing is on the wall and please quit with the buyout is to much crap.  This is division 1 SEC college football that has more money than WELLS Fargo so just stop with that crap!!!!  The powers at be bring that up because they don't want to go thru another coaching search and i understand it but it's their job and so roll your sleeves up and go to work.  Chad is as good as gone, i wish they would just go ahead and do it and tell the players and recruits that we are gonna hire them a quality coach.

 So you had to start yet another post
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« Reply #90 on: October 15, 2019, 06:32:08 pm »


so I did hurt your feelings

I'm sorry

Nah, Iíve been use to your stupidity from HRV, I laugh at your reincarnations and attempts to be relevant.
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« Reply #91 on: October 15, 2019, 06:42:24 pm »

damn
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« Reply #92 on: October 15, 2019, 06:44:12 pm »

damn

Iíve hurt your feelings, Iím sorry........

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« Reply #93 on: October 15, 2019, 06:45:24 pm »

Iíve hurt your feelings, Iím sorry........


 ;D


and you're right, I'm not relevant, not a bit

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« Reply #94 on: October 15, 2019, 06:56:34 pm »


 ;D


and you're right, I'm not relevant, not a bit

the last shall be first
None of us are.
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« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2019, 06:57:08 pm »

How is back-to-back worst seasons in school history not cause? A coach is hired to win football games. When they do not do their job, why is it not cause for firing them? Write a contract properly, please. Failure to achieve .500 winning %, which is the minimum winning %, will result in contract termination with no buyout. Any coach who won't sign doesn't believe in their abilities to do the job is all I have to say.

The problem is the accepted precedences with regard to contract terms. The coaches have always had the best end of that and maybe that is because their careers with any school tend to be more temporary than not.

Yes, the Coach is taking a chance with the school. They are more rarely hired because someone before them was doing a heckuva a job and moved on to better places. Most often they are brought in to revive a level of excellence that the school, boosters and fans feel that they deserve. But by the same token, the schools are taking chances with the coaches that they hire.

Schools need to get together and stop writing such lavish contracts that provide such overwhelming salaries and instead, negotiate contracts that provide lavish improvements in pay and buyout for coaches who succeed, and appropriately diminished salaries and most certainly down-graded buy-outs for those who fail. That's fair. Do what you were hired to do and we play you according to your success. Do worse and you receive lesser compensation and a down-graded buyout. This keeps HC's and their Staffs ultimately motivated. Everybody has skin in the game in this way. Of course the Coaches and their Agents would never abide by this willing, but if the market overall came together to make this change, it would be good for all. It will never happen, but it should.

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« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2019, 07:07:01 pm »

But the Chancellor and BoTs give him the ammo

Your avatar creeps me out, man.
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« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2019, 07:13:49 pm »

We have one player in the transfer portal, Bush. He hasnít been happy since heís been here, remember, heís enrolling early, heís not, he did. Heís the the reason Vance de-committed, itís been expected for awhile.

Have you ever even spoken to the dude youíre going on about? I can just envision you rolling up to him in your wheelies, ripping a Juul hit, and then going on-and-on about how Old Town Road is such a great mash of hip-hop and country while he told you all of this.
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« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2019, 07:16:26 pm »

I still can't wrap my head around Chavis defense not being to stop a Wr playing Qb in the second half.  As usual, opposing Qbs put up career high against Chavis defense two years in a row.  Just pathetic...
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« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2019, 07:17:39 pm »

Have you ever even spoken to the dude youíre going on about? I can just envision you rolling up to him in your wheelies, ripping a Juul hit, and then going on-and-on about how Old Town Road is such a great mash of hip-hop and country while he told you all of this.

You been following me around?
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