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EastexHawg

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #100 on: February 03, 2020, 04:08:16 pm »

Chris Jones and Mathieu are difference makers on defense.  They need to be the two priorities in terms of trying to keep them around for a few years.  I really think the emergence of Mathieu was what put them over the top, from one of the worst defenses anyone ever saw to a group that gave the offense a chance to win it all.  Of course Frank Clark is a player and I like Sorenson because he would hit his mother if she came across the middle.

Mahomes, Tyreek, and Kelce go without saying.  It's going to be interesting to see how many of these guys want to stay around and try to win more Super Bowls vs. trying to get every penny they can get elsewhere.
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Oliver

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #101 on: February 04, 2020, 09:02:42 pm »

Interesting topic for the super bowl...

Everyone is raving about the 49ers defense.... they have actually given up more points than the chiefs this season...

49ers have also score more than the chiefs this season...

For 3.5 qtrs, they made Mahomes look more human than he ever has.  Then the curse of Kyle Shanahan kicked in. 

Really as a Niners fan, I was done with Kyle after the way he ended the first half.  Just pathetic and scared playcalling.  Even if we had won, heís never going to win the big game
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Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2020, 09:35:28 pm »

For 3.5 qtrs, they made Mahomes look more human than he ever has.  Then the curse of Kyle Shanahan kicked in. 

Really as a Niners fan, I was done with Kyle after the way he ended the first half.  Just pathetic and scared playcalling.  Even if we had won, heís never going to win the big game

Good lord, Niners were awful after Harbaugh left. You are saying the same crap that Eagles fans said about Andy Reid. You ditch Shannahan and you are destined for 5 more years of 2-14, 4-12, 6-10.  Chiefs did this to everyone down the stretch. O'Brien blew it, Vrabel blew it, Shannahan blew it. Without Dee F'ng Ford blowing it last year Bellechick would have blown it and this would have been their 2nd Super Bowl win. 7 Touchdowns in a row against the Texans, 28 straight points against the Titans, 21 4th Qtr points in 7:30 on your Niners. You people act like you didn't expect this to happen. That is what they do. It wasn't Shannahan, it was Mahomes, it was Kansas City, it was exactly how they win. You people need to quit crying, support your coach, support your organization and get better. Unfortunately you are probably going to be Peyton Manning to Tom Brady. Lot's of 13-3 seasons culminating in Super Bowl losses. Maybe yall should follow through on the ESPN joke and cah out Jimmy G for Brady. Now that would be downright funny. As a season ticket holder I had to suck it up through the Niners washed up QB years, it would be fitting for you guys to start taking the Patriots washed up QB's.

In all honesty, very glad that you care Oliver. Wishing your guys luck next year. Was in the stadium and watched Jimmy G go down last year and that is never something I want to see. Just had to talk some smack....been 50 years!! I moved here in the Joe Montana years and it was the most excited I've been about Chiefs football until last year.
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EastexHawg

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #103 on: February 05, 2020, 09:39:15 am »

Mahomes threw two interceptions, but his stat line is now 13 TD passes and two picks in the playoffs.  He is also 4-1 on the scoreboard.  He's not perfect, but only imaginary QBs are.

Troy Aikman threw 23 career playoff TDs...and 17 interceptions.  Joe Montana?  45 TDs, 21 interceptions.  Terry Bradshaw?  30 TDs, 26 interceptions.  Tom Brady?  73 TDs, 35 picks.  John Elway?  27 and 21.

The closest stat line I can find to Mahomes is Bart Starr, with 15 career TD passes and 3 interceptions.  He was 9-1 in the playoffs in his career.  He also only attempted 21 passes per game and gained an average of 175 yards.  Having two Hall of Fame running backs, three Hall of Famers on the offensive line, and six Hall of Famers on defense didn't lend itself to slinging it all over the field.

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Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2020, 09:17:35 am »

Parade was an absolute blast yesterday!!!!
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#1 STUNNA

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #105 on: February 06, 2020, 09:18:25 am »

For 3.5 qtrs, they made Mahomes look more human than he ever has.  Then the curse of Kyle Shanahan kicked in. 

Really as a Niners fan, I was done with Kyle after the way he ended the first half.  Just pathetic and scared playcalling.  Even if we had won, heís never going to win the big game
Shanahan said he ended the half the way he did because of #15.. crazy
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EastexHawg

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #106 on: February 06, 2020, 08:18:05 pm »

Shanahan said he ended the half the way he did because of #15.. crazy

Teams did all kinds of crazy stuff because of #15 this year, like going for it on 4th down in situations where they normally wouldn't.

oldman1015

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #107 on: February 07, 2020, 07:13:12 am »

Shanahan said he ended the half the way he did because of #15.. crazy
With the 49ers offense and then getting the ball back in the 2nd half I didnít disagree with him not wanting Mahomes to get the ball back.

oldman1015

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #108 on: February 07, 2020, 07:15:41 am »

For 3.5 qtrs, they made Mahomes look more human than he ever has.  Then the curse of Kyle Shanahan kicked in. 

Really as a Niners fan, I was done with Kyle after the way he ended the first half.  Just pathetic and scared playcalling.  Even if we had won, heís never going to win the big game
Iím guessing youíre a board member at Arkansas. Wow you really want to get rid of him? Damn
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#1 STUNNA

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #109 on: February 07, 2020, 09:12:10 am »

With the 49ers offense and then getting the ball back in the 2nd half I didnít disagree with him not wanting Mahomes to get the ball back.
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Oliver

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #110 on: February 07, 2020, 10:13:58 am »

Good lord, Niners were awful after Harbaugh left. You are saying the same crap that Eagles fans said about Andy Reid. You ditch Shannahan and you are destined for 5 more years of 2-14, 4-12, 6-10.  Chiefs did this to everyone down the stretch. O'Brien blew it, Vrabel blew it, Shannahan blew it. Without Dee F'ng Ford blowing it last year Bellechick would have blown it and this would have been their 2nd Super Bowl win. 7 Touchdowns in a row against the Texans, 28 straight points against the Titans, 21 4th Qtr points in 7:30 on your Niners. You people act like you didn't expect this to happen. That is what they do. It wasn't Shannahan, it was Mahomes, it was Kansas City, it was exactly how they win. You people need to quit crying, support your coach, support your organization and get better. Unfortunately you are probably going to be Peyton Manning to Tom Brady. Lot's of 13-3 seasons culminating in Super Bowl losses. Maybe yall should follow through on the ESPN joke and cah out Jimmy G for Brady. Now that would be downright funny. As a season ticket holder I had to suck it up through the Niners washed up QB years, it would be fitting for you guys to start taking the Patriots washed up QB's.

In all honesty, very glad that you care Oliver. Wishing your guys luck next year. Was in the stadium and watched Jimmy G go down last year and that is never something I want to see. Just had to talk some smack....been 50 years!! I moved here in the Joe Montana years and it was the most excited I've been about Chiefs football until last year.

I don't want to take anything away from what the Chiefs did.  Anytime you say a team choked (and the 49ers did, they had a 96% chance of winning the game in the middle of the 4th qtr), you have to give credit to the other team for taking advantage of the poor play of the other team.  It takes two to tango. 

Realistically you can't fire Shannahan.  He is a great offensive mind.  He took a team that won 4 games last year and took them to a Super Bowl. 

He's just never winning the big game.  You don't come back from two Super Bowl collapses like this.  It'll be in his head forever.  Hell his first collapse was haunting him throughout this game and it showed with a lot of his decision making.

But seriously, congrats to your Chiefs!  I have nothing bad to say about the Chiefs.

Oliver

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #111 on: February 07, 2020, 10:18:26 am »

With the 49ers offense and then getting the ball back in the 2nd half I didnít disagree with him not wanting Mahomes to get the ball back.

If you are going to beat the Chiefs, you have to score a lot of points on them.  I don't care how good your defense is, Mahomes is going to get his.  The Niners had Mahomes frustrated in the first half and were running at will on the Chiefs.  You go for points there at the end of the half.  And if you get them, you STILL get the ball back to start the 2nd half. 

Shannahan coached scared.  He went for FGs instead of trying for first downs.  Andy Reid didn't.  That's a big reason why the game ended the way it did.
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Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #112 on: February 07, 2020, 05:40:05 pm »

Teams did all kinds of crazy stuff because of #15 this year, like going for it on 4th down in situations where they normally wouldn't.

So he made good teams play like losers out of fear.  That's something you can't measure in a QB.
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EastexHawg

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #113 on: February 10, 2020, 02:43:24 pm »

Forget Gone With The Wind, Casablanca , and Patton, this may be the greatest video of all time. 

https://youtu.be/4qkBO5WUK5o

I bet Andy Reid soiled his britches when he saw how close Mahomes was to the railing.  LOL.
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#1 STUNNA

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #114 on: February 10, 2020, 03:43:33 pm »

Forget Gone With The Wind, Casablanca , and Patton, this may be the greatest video of all time. 

https://youtu.be/4qkBO5WUK5o

I bet Andy Reid soiled his britches when he saw how close Mahomes was to the railing.  LOL.
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311Hog

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #115 on: February 10, 2020, 03:52:11 pm »

If you are going to beat the Chiefs, you have to score a lot of points on them.  I don't care how good your defense is, Mahomes is going to get his.  The Niners had Mahomes frustrated in the first half and were running at will on the Chiefs.  You go for points there at the end of the half.  And if you get them, you STILL get the ball back to start the 2nd half. 

Shannahan coached scared.  He went for FGs instead of trying for first downs.  Andy Reid didn't.  That's a big reason why the game ended the way it did.
as a niners fan i completely agree. I am not saying Shannahan wont recover from this, but he was coaching scared and Jimmy G was playing scared as well.

Would be kind of funny if they went after Brady, but at this point you almost have to grow up with them and hope for the best.
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Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #116 on: February 10, 2020, 05:38:55 pm »

as a niners fan i completely agree. I am not saying Shannahan wont recover from this, but he was coaching scared and Jimmy G was playing scared as well.

Would be kind of funny if they went after Brady, but at this point you almost have to grow up with them and hope for the best.

Jimmy G is a bit overrated IMO. I thought he played a pretty solid game by his standards.

Whatever Shanahan was doing, it was working for about 50 straight minutes. Mahomes was about as comfortable as a cat in a sweater and choking like a kid on a grape for those first 50 minutes or so. However, once he coughed that grape up and took that sweater off, then it was game over.
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Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #117 on: February 10, 2020, 09:37:21 pm »

Forget Gone With The Wind, Casablanca , and Patton, this may be the greatest video of all time. 

https://youtu.be/4qkBO5WUK5o

I bet Andy Reid soiled his britches when he saw how close Mahomes was to the railing.  LOL.

Stone Cold style with the beer catch and chug
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311Hog

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #118 on: February 11, 2020, 09:40:20 am »

Jimmy G is a bit overrated IMO. I thought he played a pretty solid game by his standards.

Whatever Shanahan was doing, it was working for about 50 straight minutes. Mahomes was about as comfortable as a cat in a sweater and choking like a kid on a grape for those first 50 minutes or so. However, once he coughed that grape up and took that sweater off, then it was game over.

Jimmy G is protected and yes over rated but still very very young just like Shanahan honestly. There is clearly talent there remains to be seen if this is the peak though i obviously hope not.

Mahomes is a different animal, but you are right that was the most uncomfortable i have ever seen him.  I think Sherman got exposed in this game a little bit to the Cheifs really do deserve the credit on this, they played good enough defense and turned it on during the most important part of the game.  I was really entertained by the whole game these were the two best teams.
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EastexHawg

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #119 on: February 11, 2020, 12:17:36 pm »

There are only a few game changer QBs at any given time and the teams that get and keep them have a real advantage.  Unitas, Staubach, Montana, Favre, Brady, Elway, Marino, Mahomes.  How many championships have those guys won compared to bus drivers?  Bart Starr was a game manager who didn't make mistakes, and he is the #1 exception.

If you don't have one player who can take over the game you are relying on your 45-53 man roster to be better than your opponent's and for the breaks to go in your favor, or at least be neutral.  One great QB who can turn the outcome based on his own mental makeup and skill set is probably more likely even though that guy can be hard to find.

Mahomes was the best player in America in college and should have won the Heisman.  Anyone who watched him play much at all realized he wasn't just a Texas Tech system quarterback like Symons, Harrell, or Kingsbury.  During the Super Bowl pregame Andy Reid said in an interview that before the draft the KC general manager told him Mahomes was the greatest player he had ever seen.  Jimmy Johnson said on the set that he is the most talented QB he has ever seen.  Phil Simms has said more than once that the NFL has never seen an arm like Mahomes'.  John Gruden was virtually awestruck at some of the throws he made at Tech when he featured Patrick on this show.

He ran off Baker Mayfield and Davis Webb from Tech because they knew they couldn't compete with him for playing time.  Later Mahomes went head to head with Mayfield and broke all-time Division 1 records with 734 passing yards and 819 yards of total offense.  Of course Mayfield won the game 66-59...and eventually the Heisman...because he had better talent around him.

The evidence was all there.  Kansas City was paying close enough attention to act on it and now they have their world championship.
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#1 STUNNA

Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #120 on: February 11, 2020, 04:07:26 pm »

Just put it like this... in what some say was Mahomes worst game of his career the super bowl... he threw for 110 yards more than the 49ers had been giving up this season.

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Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #121 on: February 11, 2020, 04:09:46 pm »

He has had a short career so far and I wont dare call him the goat right now out of respect for guys that have done it longer....

But if I was betting money on one season, one game, one play in a football game.... id take Mahomes right now over anyone ive ever seen at their best..

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Re: Chiefs...
« Reply #122 on: February 16, 2020, 11:02:36 am »

Good lord, Niners were awful after Harbaugh left. You are saying the same crap that Eagles fans said about Andy Reid. You ditch Shannahan and you are destined for 5 more years of 2-14, 4-12, 6-10.  Chiefs did this to everyone down the stretch. O'Brien blew it, Vrabel blew it, Shannahan blew it. Without Dee F'ng Ford blowing it last year Bellechick would have blown it and this would have been their 2nd Super Bowl win. 7 Touchdowns in a row against the Texans, 28 straight points against the Titans, 21 4th Qtr points in 7:30 on your Niners. You people act like you didn't expect this to happen. That is what they do. It wasn't Shannahan, it was Mahomes, it was Kansas City, it was exactly how they win. You people need to quit crying, support your coach, support your organization and get better. Unfortunately you are probably going to be Peyton Manning to Tom Brady. Lot's of 13-3 seasons culminating in Super Bowl losses. Maybe yall should follow through on the ESPN joke and cah out Jimmy G for Brady. Now that would be downright funny. As a season ticket holder I had to suck it up through the Niners washed up QB years, it would be fitting for you guys to start taking the Patriots washed up QB's.

In all honesty, very glad that you care Oliver. Wishing your guys luck next year. Was in the stadium and watched Jimmy G go down last year and that is never something I want to see. Just had to talk some smack....been 50 years!! I moved here in the Joe Montana years and it was the most excited I've been about Chiefs football until last year.

I was there for Jimmy G's knee, too. Jimmy had a couple hoes in the seats right in front of us and when he was carted off RIGHT PAST THEM (front row) the were too busy making duck fuce selfies to even notice. The one that copped to banging Jimmy (before the porn star, she clarified) was kinda skanky but the other one was very cute. She called me hot, the damn liar, lol.
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