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WizardofhOgZ

Music to my ears . . .
« on: July 14, 2019, 03:24:34 pm »


Just flipped the TV on and it was on the SEC Network, which is showing a bunch of old SEC football games.  Current game is 1985 Alabama-Auburn, so I immediately hear the dulcet tones of Keith Jackson and Frank Broyles calling the game.  For a long-term fan of my "vintage", it doesn't get any better than that.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2019, 05:21:15 pm »

I watched some of it too, and enjoyed listening to them.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2019, 06:06:00 pm »

Nobody says, "We've got a real Arkansas barn burner here, folks" like Keith Jackson.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2019, 06:10:20 pm »


Those two are what I compare every CFB Announcing Team against. Jackson was a great Play-by-Play guy and Broyles a great Color Analyst. I have yet to find another tandem nearly as good.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2019, 06:13:40 pm »

Those two are what I compare every CFB Announcing Team against. Jackson was a great Play-by-Play guy and Broyles a great Color Analyst. I have yet to find another tandem nearly as good.
Ara Parseghian was very good.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2019, 06:15:20 pm »

Loved Keith Jackson.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2019, 06:24:13 pm »

Ara Parseghian was very good.

Very true.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2019, 06:49:10 pm »

Those two are what I compare every CFB Announcing Team against. Jackson was a great Play-by-Play guy and Broyles a great Color Analyst. I have yet to find another tandem nearly as good.

Yes sir.

Before them, Chris Schenkel and Bud Wilkinson were pretty good. 

Of course, Schenkel was very versatile and also did MLB, tennis, golf, NBA, bowling, racing, the Olympics, you name it.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2019, 08:39:04 pm »

I believe Schenkel and Wilkinson called the 1969 Big Shootout for ABC.

ABC split up Jackson and Broyles because new management didn't like two southern guys on the same broadcast team. So they took Broyles off. I think this was when Bob Griese took over. Could be wrong.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2019, 08:58:49 pm »

Ara Parseghian was very good.
He was OK. Frank was a much better color commentator though.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2019, 10:00:25 pm »

Ara Parseghian was very good.

To each their own, but I never cared for Parseghian as a color man.  Respected him as a coach - so it's not an anti-Notre Dame thing.  Just didn't think he added much to the presentation.

In fact, I always envisioned him sitting in the booth with an electronic taser taped to him and every so often the guy producing the broadcast would push a button and old Ara would chime in with some random thought - occasionally, it even had something to do with the game!  But nothing very insightful, IMO. 
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2019, 11:57:38 pm »

Those two are what I compare every CFB Announcing Team against. Jackson was a great Play-by-Play guy and Broyles a great Color Analyst. I have yet to find another tandem nearly as good.
So true. They were just the best and no college broadcast team since has come close to the standard they set.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2019, 12:22:26 am »

So true. They were just the best and no college broadcast team since has come close to the standard they set.

I have enjoyed Mark Jones and Dusty Davracek as a CFB announcing team. Jones is a great play by play guy and Davorcek is getting better as an analyst. Last season they were talking about the two going to Davorcek's parents and Jones having King Ranch Chicken for the first time. Was one of those stories thrown in during a lull in the action.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2019, 05:27:32 am »

I'll get rocks thrown at me here, but I always liked Verne and Gary doing the SEC game of the week.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2019, 05:35:00 am »

I'll get rocks thrown at me here, but I always liked Verne and Gary doing the SEC game of the week.

Not from me Verne was one of the best until the last few years before he retired. Danielson was fine.

LZH

Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2019, 05:43:04 am »

Not from me Verne was one of the best until the last few years before he retired. Danielson was fine.

Lots of guys hated Verne, but I never understood why.  I was at the LSU game that day, but when watching it again later his "say goodbye!" when DMac broke the line and outran everyone was great.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2019, 05:51:08 am »

Lots of guys hated Verne, but I never understood why.  I was at the LSU game that day, but when watching it again later his "say goodbye!" when DMac broke the line and outran everyone was great.

He had a great voice and was a great play by play guy. I think most of the criticism came from the last few years when he wasn’t as good. His “farewell” tour showed how loved he really was.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2019, 06:04:51 am »

He had a great voice and was a great play by play guy. I think most of the criticism came from the last few years when he wasn’t as good. His “farewell” tour showed how loved he really was.

I was 18 and hadn't even picked up a golf club yet, save for a night or two drinking at the driving range on University in LR.  But just happened to be watching when Jack made that putt at Augusta...."yessir!"  Was a Verne fan ever since.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2019, 06:10:34 am »

Lots of guys hated Verne, but I never understood why.  I was at the LSU game that day, but when watching it again later his "say goodbye!" when DMac broke the line and outran everyone was great.

Verne: "So...is that like...an incomplete pass?"

Gary: Facepalm

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2019, 06:13:51 am »

Verne: "So...is that like...an incomplete pass?"

Gary: Facepalm

Surely you have him confused with Corso or someone.........
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2019, 09:21:29 am »

The old announcers were truly great. Watch an old game like Saturday and it just shows.

The real problem now is just that there are at least 60 D1 NCAA football games every Saturday. There's no way around the fact that half of those guys are below average.

That average is lower also because most of them have learned in broadcasting school, instead of the old guys who had learned by doing years of radio before they broke into TV. They don't do much homework (mispronouncing names is a tell here), don't know the teams because they move around so much, and are formulaic to the extreme.

The color commentators are even worse as a large percentage of the time they're just a convenient ex-jock who spends half the time talking about his own career (maybe because that's all he's done for years, anyway). At least the play-by-play guys went to school.

When there were (at best) two games per Saturday, we saw the best there was, every Saturday (I mean really, Bud Wilkinson, Ara Parseighian, Frank Broyles? Three hall of fame coaches -- heck yes, they could comment.). Of course, it meant only one or maybe two Razorback games per year, and overall I admit I like it better watching the Hogs every Saturday with somewhat sub-par announcers.

I've actually heard some very good announcing on small college radio. But my wife got Sirius; now I can just listen to ESPNU in the car (to a relevant game) so I guess those days are gone to me, too.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2019, 11:57:18 am »

I was 18 and hadn't even picked up a golf club yet, save for a night or two drinking at the driving range on University in LR.  But just happened to be watching when Jack made that putt at Augusta...."yessir!"  Was a Verne fan ever since.
Which he actually repeated, subconsciously, from Ben Wright earlier in that day's broadcast.
Wright had used 'Yes Sir' that day in his British accent.
Verne used it on Nicklaus's putt late in the round.
People attribute it all to Verne, but he admitted years later he got it from Ben. The rest of the story.
It wasn't a 'stealing' thing at all, it was subconscious. In the spur of the moment, Verne repeated something he had heard just a bit earlier over the earpiece, and out 'Yes Sir!' came. But it became known as Verne's call.

Funny how life works.

Nothing is original anyway.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2019, 04:01:36 pm »

Surely you have him confused with Corso or someone.........

Sadly, he's not.  Watch the 2009 Florida game after Mallett hit Childs with a long TD pass that was caught at midfield and fumbled into the EZ around the goal line to hear that classic "senior moment" exchange between Vern and Gary.

For a humorous reminder, here's a classic hidden video some poor Arkansas fan's family took of him reacting to the call (if you listen above this guy's justified ranting about the conversation between Verne and Gary, you can hear Verne asking in the background "is that an incomplete pass?"  Comes right at the 3:00 mark).



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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2019, 04:14:07 pm »

Sadly, he's not.  Watch the 2009 Florida game after Mallett hit Childs with a long TD pass that was caught at midfield and fumbled into the EZ around the goal line to hear that classic "senior moment" exchange between Vern and Gary.

For a humorous reminder, here's a classic hidden video some poor Arkansas fan's family took of him reacting to the call (if you listen above this guy's justified ranting about the conversation between Verne and Gary, you can hear Verne asking in the background "is that an incomplete pass?").




LOL

Yup. Three minute mark.

For about a year up until then, I had been like, "Well Verne is the affable old uncle everybody humors at the family reunion."

But when he said THAT....it's time to go.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2019, 04:36:45 pm »

Sadly, he's not.  Watch the 2009 Florida game after Mallett hit Childs with a long TD pass that was caught at midfield and fumbled into the EZ around the goal line to hear that classic "senior moment" exchange between Vern and Gary.

For a humorous reminder, here's a classic hidden video some poor Arkansas fan's family took of him reacting to the call (if you listen above this guy's justified ranting about the conversation between Verne and Gary, you can hear Verne asking in the background "is that an incomplete pass?").



You figure around 80,000 similar incidents each Sat. This is priceless. Thank you!
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2019, 05:20:04 pm »

I remember that home video, and it is sorta funny...but I just can't live through that again. :(
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2019, 05:44:18 pm »

Those two are what I compare every CFB Announcing Team against. Jackson was a great Play-by-Play guy and Broyles a great Color Analyst. I have yet to find another tandem nearly as good.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2019, 06:21:35 pm »


Ron Franklin was the best play-by-play man in the business for about 25 years.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2019, 04:08:32 am »

I remember the Florida gaff, but didn't know about the Master's repeat.

Still like good ol' Verne.  His delivery was great and had a voice to go with it.  Did he slip here and there?.....yeah.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2019, 04:12:45 am »

Ron Franklin was the best play-by-play man in the business for about 25 years.

He was, no doubt, very good.  Enjoyed him, too.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2019, 10:28:59 am »

Ron Franklin was getting older anyway but he was semi-pushed out when he called the sideline reporter "Honey" once.
"Honey" is kind of a southern phrase that doesn't necessarily mean harassment, but that's not how it was interpreted by some people. So he got in some trouble.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2019, 10:31:08 am »

Ron Franklin was getting older anyway but he was semi-pushed out when he called the sideline reporter "Honey" once.
"Honey" is kind of a southern phrase that doesn't necessarily mean harassment, but that's not how it was interpreted by some people. So he got in some trouble.
I guess he had to go back where he came from...
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2019, 02:19:26 am »

I guess he had to go back where he came from...

Pennsylvania?
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2019, 08:33:18 am »

Joe Namath got banned from further broadcast work when he practically dry-humped a sideline chick. He wasn't involved as a broadcaster in the game, but it was for some reason deemed inappropriate behavior, which ended his broadcast career.

I really believe he should have been excused for this because she was hot and he was drunk.

At least that's how I rember the sequence of events.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2019, 08:36:44 am »

Joe Namath got banned from further broadcast work when he practically dry-humped a sideline chick. He wasn't involved as a broadcaster in the game, but it was for some reason deemed inappropriate behavior, which ended his broadcast career.

I really believe he should have been excused for this because she was hot and he was drunk.

At least that's how I rember the sequence of events.
Suzy Kolber handled that situation very well.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2019, 08:53:56 am »

Suzy Kolber handled that situation very well.

Thanks for providing  her name.  Looked her up on Wikepedia. I didn't realize the incident was as broadly reported as it was. And I agree that she handled the situation very well.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2019, 09:21:12 am »

Verne was slipping for a number of years.  He botched countless names and facts for at least 15 years before he hung it up.  I really didn't mind his voice and the sound of him calling the game, but the errors definitely frustrated me.  Brad Nessler is really a good one and I'm glad he's on the CBS broadcast now.  Perhaps one day, we'll get to hear him call one of our games. 

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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2019, 09:48:36 am »

Suzy Kolber handled that situation very well.
Yeah she's a real pro.  She does great work and that was an awful situation to be put in on live TV.  From what I've heard, Namath has sobered up since that incident.  I believe that he's said that was a turning point for him and that forced him to get his life together.  Hopefully so.
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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2019, 09:57:32 am »

Yeah she's a real pro.  She does great work and that was an awful situation to be put in on live TV.  From what I've heard, Namath has sobered up since that incident.  I believe that he's said that was a turning point for him and that forced him to get his life together.  Hopefully so.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2019, 10:03:35 am »

I'll get rocks thrown at me here, but I always liked Verne and Gary doing the SEC game of the week.
Danielson sucks.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2019, 10:09:23 am »

Danielson sucks.

I just don't understand why CBS thinks the Southeastern Conference needs to be analyzed by a midwest guy who isn't very good anyway. Never have understood it. If Peyton Manning ever wants to do it, they should hire him. Or Spurrier, if they want the show to be entertaining.

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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2019, 10:39:45 am »

I just don't understand why CBS thinks the Southeastern Conference needs to be analyzed by a midwest guy who isn't very good anyway. Never have understood it. If Peyton Manning ever wants to do it, they should hire him. Or Spurrier, if they want the show to be entertaining.
Agree 100%. Gary gets on my nerves.  I liked Verne until about 6-8 years ago... I understand the nostalgia so I never complained too much about him even when he was going down hill.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2019, 11:29:49 am »

Joe Namath got banned from further broadcast work when he practically dry-humped a sideline chick. He wasn't involved as a broadcaster in the game, but it was for some reason deemed inappropriate behavior, which ended his broadcast career.

I really believe he should have been excused for this because she was hot and he was drunk.

At least that's how I rember the sequence of events.
It was on Monday Night Football so the audience was big, which probably explains why it became a bigger story.

Suzy Kolber is nice but I wouldn't call her hot. I doubt she's reading this so I can say that here :)

I like Gary Danielson. He's very knowledgeable. It would make sense to have two 'SEC' guys on the 'SEC Game of the Week' but I don't know if ESPN would do that. As stated earlier, ABC busted up Jackson/Broyles because both were southeners. Of course, that was a national broadcast and not the SEC weekly game. I agree that Jackson/Broyles was a great team. Frank was basically good at everything he ever did: coaching, AD'ing, broadcasting, fundraising, caregiving for Alzheimers. A Man for All Seasons.

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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2019, 12:55:57 pm »

It was on Monday Night Football so the audience was big, which probably explains why it became a bigger story.

Suzy Kolber is nice but I wouldn't call her hot. I doubt she's reading this so I can say that here :)

I like Gary Danielson. He's very knowledgeable. It would make sense to have two 'SEC' guys on the 'SEC Game of the Week' but I don't know if ESPN would do that. As stated earlier, ABC busted up Jackson/Broyles because both were southeners. Of course, that was a national broadcast and not the SEC weekly game. I agree that Jackson/Broyles was a great team. Frank was basically good at everything he ever did: coaching, AD'ing, broadcasting, fundraising, caregiving for Alzheimers. A Man for All Seasons.

Well, I didn't remember much other than Joe's actions. But a lot of ladies look pretty good by the time you drink to the bottom of the bottle.
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Re: Music to my ears . . .
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2019, 02:48:56 pm »

Well, I didn't remember much other than Joe's actions. But a lot of ladies look pretty good by the time you drink to the bottom of the bottle.
Amanda Balionis on CBS Golf is HOT.
Back in the day, Jill Arrington on the CBS SEC Game of the Week was mega-hot too.
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