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jpsand

Too many strikeouts
« on: May 17, 2019, 09:38:23 pm »

Base loaded no outs 3 straight strikeouts.  Lead off base hits then two strikeouts.  A few of the situations was due to great pitch location but in order to win big you just canít strikeout over and over again.

navyhog24

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2019, 09:41:44 pm »

They need to learn to lay off sliders low and in or learn how to hit them. Always  k'ing on them.
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 09:42:38 pm »

Are you new to baseball?

HogPharmer

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2019, 09:43:59 pm »

33 Kís in 54 outs over 2 games is not good. Thatís 61% of the outs that we arenít putting the ball in play.
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jpsand

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2019, 09:50:55 pm »

Are you new to baseball?
No.  Whatís your point?  How many times has the competition loaded the bases and we get three straight strikeouts.  Not too often.

Razrpig256

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2019, 09:54:47 pm »

I have a hunch it'll go a little differently tomorrow with it being their third best starter and him being a RHP. We'll see.

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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2019, 10:05:12 pm »

I have a hunch it'll go a little differently tomorrow with it being their third best starter and him being a RHP. We'll see.

As usual, I'm with you.
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tennesseehogwild

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2019, 10:12:25 pm »

Noland needs to be in the zone out of the gate. Don't let em breathe!

Oliver

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2019, 10:40:43 pm »

33 Kís in 54 outs over 2 games is not good. Thatís 61% of the outs that we arenít putting the ball in play.

This.  Even a double play would have most likely scored a run with the bases loaded and no outs. Too much feast or famine type offense.  Donít want to get too down on our offense because overall itís been great this year but we wonít get out of our regional with these type of strikeout numbers

Knot2brite

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2019, 10:51:20 pm »

Everyone points to the fact we are left handed dominate in the middle of the order. At some point it has to stop mattering if the pitcher is a left handed or right handed. Right handed batters see more right handed pitching and have to adjust. Being able to hit the same handed pitching as the batter is hitting is a skill that has to be worked on. I can assure you that there is someone up on the hill that throws left handed batting practice. The major issue that I have had the the hogs for the last ten years is the fact that they donít seem to have the ability to go opposite field very well. HK is amazing at it and a couple others are good but as a team..we donít shorten up and go with the outside pitch as well as we should. Sometimes we are late on outside fast balls and we go opposite field but offspeed away we donít seem to pick it up as well. I hate seeing guys bent over at the waist looking at a outside pitch for strike three. Put that sucker in the opposite dugout and make the pitcher have to get you out with a pitch that you can handle. Keith Moreland ( I am dating myself here big time) of the Chicago Cubs was a master at it. He would foul off three pitches away and hammer a middle to inside pitch over the ivy.
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BroyledNutts

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2019, 10:55:45 pm »

Anyone have a breakdown of that 33 K's ? How many looking vs swinging?
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hoglady

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2019, 12:21:30 am »

Even the pro's have problems laying off a good slider.
I recorded the Red Sox and just watched JD Martinez strike out on a slider almost in the dirt with runners at the corners.

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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2019, 12:57:28 am »

This is exactly the same type of crap threads that were started over and over during and after the Georgia series last year. this team is just as good as the best teams in the country, any team can lose a series or a regional to a lesser team, but c'mon it's two mediocre hitting games against an elite pitching staff at their place.

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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2019, 06:06:19 am »

Anyone have a breakdown of that 33 K's ? How many looking vs swinging?

As a matter of fact, yes. 24 of the Ks were swinging, 9 were looking.

bulldog04

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2019, 06:36:00 am »

As a matter of fact, yes. 24 of the Ks were swinging, 9 were looking.
Mostly on low sliders breaking out of the zone and high fastballs I bet
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BroyledNutts

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2019, 10:03:49 am »

As a matter of fact, yes. 24 of the Ks were swinging, 9 were looking.

Thanks Hicks ...
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2019, 12:02:54 pm »

No.  Whatís your point?  How many times has the competition loaded the bases and we get three straight strikeouts.  Not too often.

How many grand slams have we hit? My point is IT'S BASEBALL!
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soso

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2019, 12:22:44 pm »

Our approach has changed. We have lengthened our swings looking for the fence and that has led to more strikeouts than usual. DVH will deal with it before regionals. I think DVH is on cruise control until regionals.
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Fort Dweller

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2019, 12:35:26 pm »

its two things:  weíre in long ball mode and the Aggies have one of the nest staffs.

DVH will fix it.
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2019, 12:53:58 pm »

our situational hitting is non existent right now.

pccmizuno24

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2019, 01:08:46 pm »

story of the series..
gotta be close to a 3 game record
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2019, 01:14:00 pm »

I have a hunch it'll go a little differently tomorrow with it being their third best starter and him being a RHP. We'll see.

Or not.
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redeye

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2019, 01:27:08 pm »

Our approach has changed. We have lengthened our swings looking for the fence and that has led to more strikeouts than usual. DVH will deal with it before regionals. I think DVH is on cruise control until regionals.

I've worried about this for a while now, so I hope you're right about DVH dealing with it. Long ball never works out in the long run.
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2019, 07:12:23 pm »

The great Yankee teams were this way.  Either hit a home run or strike out.
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2019, 07:19:45 pm »

Cws always comes down to timely hitting and great pitching. Thatís why I have my doubts about this team.

Regardless, itís been a really fun season and hopefully a lot of games left. WPS

redeye

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2019, 07:27:32 pm »

The great Yankee teams were this way.  Either hit a home run or strike out.

Were they really? I've never followed AL ball closely, so I honestly don't know.

However, I don't remember any of the big power teams of the 90's winning the WS.
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rinds

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2019, 11:59:00 pm »

I think DVH knew A&M had good pitching and that's why the long ball approach this weekend. This Team has not been that long ball focus on most series as this one. A&M's pitching was good but add that with the home field advantage in the strike zone and that made it worst. I would like to see DVH try to manufacture some runs with steals and bunts a bit more in those types of games. Long ball is not a crazy thing to try alot of MLB  teams do that.
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2019, 09:09:38 am »

We have some guys threatening to move into the top 10 on the record list in strikeouts. Casey could become the single season leader. As our home run numbers have started to climb, the team has gotten away from "situational" hitting as Kevin said above.
 
 Matt Goodheart     36
 Heston Kjerstad     54
 Dominic Fletcher    48
  Jack Kenley            48
  Trevor Ezell            47
 Casey Martin         63
 Christian Franklin   55
  Jacob Nesbit          46         
 Casey Opitz          37

1. 73 Brian Kirby 1999
2. 69 Danny Hamblin 2007
3. 65 Zack Cox 2009
4. 62 Danny Hamblin 2006
5. 61 Tim Smalling 2008
    61 Brian Kirby 2000
7. 60 Brett Eibner 2009
    60 Danny Hamblin 2004
9. 56 Jake Dugger 2007
    56 Michael Conner 2002
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tennesseehogwild

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2019, 10:45:58 am »

We have some guys threatening to move into the top 10 on the record list in strikeouts. Casey could become the single season leader. As our home run numbers have started to climb, the team has gotten away from "situational" hitting as Kevin said above.
 
 Matt Goodheart     36
 Heston Kjerstad     54
 Dominic Fletcher    48
  Jack Kenley            48
  Trevor Ezell            47
 Casey Martin         63                                         
 Christian Franklin   55
  Jacob Nesbit          46         
 Casey Opitz          37

1. 73 Brian Kirby 1999
2. 69 Danny Hamblin 2007
3. 65 Zack Cox 2009
4. 62 Danny Hamblin 2006
5. 61 Tim Smalling 2008
    61 Brian Kirby 2000
7. 60 Brett Eibner 2009
    60 Danny Hamblin 2004
9. 56 Jake Dugger 2007
    56 Michael Conner 2002


With all these K's how unreal is it Hogs are hitting at a .300 clip as a team
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2019, 10:57:53 am »

Our hitting has really gone South the last two games.  We better get back to hot bats or we won't go far in the regionals.
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2019, 07:21:06 pm »

Some nice stats from Ryan Folkes.

1. We are actually have only 1 fewer HR than we did last year at this time (insane we exploded for 20HR in postseason last year).

2. We are hitting 0.442 with 61 of our 77 HRs when we have < 2 strikes in the count. With 2 strikes, we are 0.182 with 61 extra base hits total--improving at 2 strike hitting will be key to this teams success in postseason.
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The Kid

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2019, 02:02:58 pm »

I lost count of the number of swings at third strikes out of the zone.

A generous outside strike zone didn't help.

Wish our pitchers could've worked that situation more in their favor like the Aggies.

Time to reset & move forward after a frustrating Friday-Saturday.
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Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2019, 02:29:10 pm »

I lost count of the number of swings at third strikes out of the zone.

A generous outside strike zone didn't help.

Wish our pitchers could've worked that situation more in their favor like the Aggies.

Time to reset & move forward after a frustrating Friday-Saturday.
Time and time again, I saw us swinging for third strikes on low sliders... the majority of those would have been base on balls and given us some base runners.
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redeye

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2019, 03:01:22 pm »

Time and time again, I saw us swinging for third strikes on low sliders... the majority of those would have been base on balls and given us some base runners.

Same thing we did in our loss to Texas. Looks like we need to be more patient and focus on getting on base with 2 strike counts.
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redeye

Re: Too many strikeouts
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2019, 03:05:01 pm »

I think DVH knew A&M had good pitching and that's why the long ball approach this weekend.

Am I the only one who thinks this is the wrong approach? I hope that's not true.

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I would like to see DVH try to manufacture some runs with steals and bunts a bit more in those types of games.

That and shorter swings with 2 strikes.

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Long ball is not a crazy thing to try alot of MLB  teams do that.

Yes, but not the better teams, imo.
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