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Pig in the Pokey:

--- Quote from: kingofdequeen on April 05, 2019, 03:20:16 pm ---cos.   there can be only one.

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if this corner we've painted ourselves into nets us Beard for $7 million, it'll still be worth it.

kingofdequeen:

--- Quote from: soonerhawg on April 05, 2019, 03:21:09 pm ---Since he's already under contract, can we just pay a little kicker during the basketball season and not need to go through this whole negotiation process? Then we could see if he might take on a history class or two. Win/win

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that's called synergy.  the walton folks will eat that shizz up. 

HogsonHicks:

--- Quote from: moses_007 on April 05, 2019, 03:03:22 pm ---We'll likely wind up with a coach that the majority of us have never heard of... like Chad Morris...

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My sources are supremely confident Chad Morris wonít be our basketball coach.

DoctorSusscrofa:
Chad hasnít been considered at all since Wed.

kingofdequeen:

--- Quote from: DoctorSusscrofa on April 05, 2019, 03:23:28 pm ---Chad hasnít been considered at all since Wed.

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you know dick.

BuddyHog71:

--- Quote from: moses_007 on April 05, 2019, 03:09:59 pm ---TT's AD has said publicly that he will pay "what it takes" to avoid losing Beard.

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he can say that but itís not his money to spend.

Sivad:

--- Quote from: moses_007 on April 05, 2019, 03:03:22 pm ---We'll likely wind up with a coach that the majority of us have never heard of... like Chad Morris...

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I donít think HY would have ever come up with Chad Morris.
That was a botched hire and coaching ďsearchĒ from beginning to end.

DoctorSusscrofa:

--- Quote from: kingofdequeen on April 05, 2019, 03:24:12 pm ---you know dick.

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I know heís real short.

swinesation:
So basically nothing new

Wi11ieBeamin:

--- Quote from: rhames on April 05, 2019, 03:08:22 pm ---Sampson was offered the job. The coach in waiting stuff proves that. Lol.

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100% was not offered the job. Beard has been and still is the #1 choice. You dont offer someone else when you havent even offered your #1.  TT winning has been whats held this whole process up or you would have seen that Sampson was never the target.

SwineIam:
Because you have the iron clad sources and everyone else is just joshing us.

SwineIam:
Because you have the iron clad sources and everyone else is just joshing us.

Cool story bro

Beaverfever:

--- Quote from: Wi11ieBeamin on April 05, 2019, 03:44:07 pm ---100% was not offered the job. Beard has been and still is the #1 choice. You dont offer someone else when you havent even offered your #1.  TT winning has been whats held this whole process up or you would have seen that Sampson was never the target.

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Im actually starting to think we havenít offered the job officially to anyone.  Every day we get drama about a coach but none of it has been verified. 

aar0n:

--- Quote from: moses_007 on April 05, 2019, 02:47:53 pm ---Well if we're NOT going to pay more than what we pay the football coach (around $3.5 million), there's no reason to wait for Beard.  We won't get him for anywhere near that.

It's gotta be Musselman or another mid-major.

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Stupid, unfounded rumor that's not based in reality no matter who is spouting it.

Use common sense, people.  Jesus.

Al Boarland:
No one is "offered" the job until it is known they will accept. It would be like someone saying they didn't ask a girl out even though they asked her friend if she knew she would says yes if they asked.

The PTB have been asking a lot of friends if they would say yes.

GlassofSwine:

--- Quote from: Al Boarland on April 05, 2019, 04:00:56 pm ---No one is "offered" the job until it is known they will accept. It would be like someone saying they didn't ask a girl out even though they asked her friend if she knew she would says yes if they asked.

The PTB have been asking a lot of friends if they would say yes.

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This is not true, coaches are offered and turn down jobs all the time. Sometimes, they even accept and then change their mind.

rhames:

--- Quote from: Wi11ieBeamin on April 05, 2019, 03:44:07 pm ---100% was not offered the job. Beard has been and still is the #1 choice. You dont offer someone else when you havent even offered your #1.  TT winning has been whats held this whole process up or you would have seen that Sampson was never the target.

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So why did they set up Bud Walton on Mondsy. Seems like a lot of work since the earliest we would hire a coach is this Sunday.


And the stuff about Arkansas not wanting to make his kid CIW seems to contradict what you are saying.

Arthur pigby sellers.:
Great!!
We will help Beard get a hefty raise at TT. 

GlassofSwine:

--- Quote from: rhames on April 05, 2019, 04:09:20 pm ---So why did they set up Bud Walton on Mondsy. Seems like a lot of work since the earliest we would hire a coach is this Sunday.


And the stuff about Arkansas not wanting to make his kid CIW seems to contradict what you are saying.

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This is true, logically the only reason to setup Bud Walton early was because you are unsure of when your job will be accepted and want to have everything in place ahead of time or you were expecting it to be accepted by someone quickly.

Wi11ieBeamin:

--- Quote from: GlassofSwine on April 05, 2019, 04:14:18 pm ---This is true, logically the only reason to setup Bud Walton early was because you are unsure of when your job will be accepted and want to have everything in place ahead of time or you were expecting it to be accepted by someone quickly.

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Bud Walton has absolutely nothing going on so why not go ahead and get it set up? This is just assumption that they offered someone so they set it up.

sowmonella:
Nobody loves us.

elkhog:

--- Quote from: 100%Razorback on April 05, 2019, 03:18:06 pm ---If HY gets CB, I may have to pull a Joe Biden and smell the excellency in his hair.

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As long as you don't touch his nipple.

GlassofSwine:

--- Quote from: Wi11ieBeamin on April 05, 2019, 04:23:26 pm ---Bud Walton has absolutely nothing going on so why not go ahead and get it set up? This is just assumption that they offered someone so they set it up.

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Fertitta was quoted after the Arkansas job came up saying they wouldn't let Sampson leave for money, then he got a raise and they made his son coach in waiting. Out of all the noise we have heard, it seems very likely that HY went after Sampson first, and Sampson used it as leverage. Did he have an official offer waiting to be signed in hand? Maybe not, but no doubt he had discussions and used it as leverage to renegotiate with Houston.

Pancetta:
PRJ guaranteed that Mike wasnít getting fired this year. He did so repeatedly and on every thread. Seems to be in the know....

Atlhogfan1:

--- Quote from: GlassofSwine on April 05, 2019, 04:42:57 pm ---Fertitta was quoted after the Arkansas job came up saying they wouldn't let Sampson leave for money, then he got a raise and they made his son coach in waiting. Out of all the noise we have heard, it seems very likely that HY went after Sampson first, and Sampson used it as leverage. Did he have an official offer waiting to be signed in hand? Maybe not, but no doubt he had discussions and used it as leverage to renegotiate with Houston.

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I donít believe HY has gotten to actually try and hire a coach without sabotage.   Beard or bust. 

SwineIam:

--- Quote from: Pancetta on April 05, 2019, 04:44:00 pm ---PRJ guaranteed that Mike wasnít getting fired this year. He did so repeatedly and on every thread. Seems to be in the know....

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Lol

But muh sources

Lol

Hardyguy:
If the PTB and HY think they can get Beard, I question their ability to lead the university. Delusion and entitlement are clouding their decisions. History and common sense tell me that we shouldn't wait on Beard. In my opinion, we seem a little desperate if waiting on Beard is still an option.

Atlhogfan1:
HY isnít hiring Beard. He is maybe messaging the offer.  If Beard does or doesnít come, that isnít on HY.  Itís on those setting the terms.

iCalledThatHogBrotha!:
Hope you are right. I suspect we'll know more in the next day or 3, depending on whether TT makes it to the final. Personally I'd be just as happy with Musselman or Marshall as I would beard.

Hogmatic:

--- Quote from: Al Boarland on April 05, 2019, 04:00:56 pm ---No one is "offered" the job until it is known they will accept. It would be like someone saying they didn't ask a girl out even though they asked her friend if she knew she would says yes if they asked.

The PTB have been asking a lot of friends if they would say yes.

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This ^^^^

"We would like to talk to your client about his interest in our job.  We are willing to pay X plus incentives for a coach but we are willing to pay more for high caliber coaches.  Please let me know if he is interested in a phone interview to get started."

The_Hog_Father:

--- Quote from: Sivad on April 05, 2019, 03:25:19 pm ---I donít think HY would have ever come up with Chad Morris.
That was a botched hire and coaching ďsearchĒ from beginning to end.

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Would you STFU and let the guy fix the fat boyís Frank ups? We get it, you hate him, let the guy clean up the mess from the last three jack legs first though you pedantic ass.

mboot:

--- Quote from: Hogmatic on April 05, 2019, 05:09:16 pm ---This ^^^^

"We would like to talk to your client about his interest in our job.  We are willing to pay X plus incentives for a coach but we are willing to pay more for high caliber coaches.  Please let me know if he is interested in a phone interview to get started."

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The problem with that is HY had been courting Sampson for months. There are even those on the former staff that were aware of it. Sampson was offered the job and it was expected to be a done deal. Of course many will say he was never offered so if and when we hire a new coach they were our first choice all a long.

Inhogswetrust:

--- Quote from: Pigs in Zen on April 05, 2019, 05:11:51 pm ---Would you STFU and let the guy fix the fat boyís Frank ups? We get it, you hate him, let the guy clean up the mess from the last three jack legs first though you pedantic ass.

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+1 for using the word pedantic. Iím sure you had him googling it.

The_Hog_Father:

--- Quote from: Inhogswetrust on April 05, 2019, 05:24:43 pm ---+1 for using the word pedantic. Iím sure you had him googling it.

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Thereís no doubt about that... And I completely understand that people are pissed about last year but they are trying to change the culture, roster, etc and feel he at least deserves the support to get the job done. All of the points have been made ad naseum, anyone with two brain cells to rub together understands the litany of well established problems this coaching staff is trying to solve. Even Mods have asked this clown to dial it back to no avail... Itís moronic to continue to incessantly kevetch when people a hell of a lot smarter than him are actively seeking solutions.




King Kong:

--- Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on April 05, 2019, 04:50:02 pm ---HY isnít hiring Beard. He is maybe messaging the offer.  If Beard does or doesnít come, that isnít on HY.  Itís on those setting the terms.

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Plan and simple we wonít pay what it takes to get Marshall or Beard.

So we will be getting Musselman.... if we are luck. If we arenít lucky Alford

fullfan:

--- Quote from: Pig in the Pokey on April 05, 2019, 03:21:44 pm ---if this corner we've painted ourselves into nets us Beard for $7 million, it'll still be worth it.

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No way Arkansas pays 7 mil for a basketball coach.  Those are message board only numbers.

my3boneheads:

--- Quote from: mboot on April 05, 2019, 02:54:46 pm ---
Sampson was offered the job and if anyone thinks otherwise it's because they dont want it to look like he backed out.

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Exactly.

SwineIam:

--- Quote from: King Kong on April 05, 2019, 05:52:12 pm ---Plan and simple we wonít pay what it takes to get Marshall or Beard.

So we will be getting Musselman.... if we are luck. If we arenít lucky Alford

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This guy understands how Arkansas Athletics works. This has been proven time and time again

Unnamed Source:
Under threats of landing Alford, I certainly hope this is accurate. At this point, Musselman as a 2 gives me a little comfort.

NWA Hog:

--- Quote from: Unnamed Source on April 05, 2019, 06:27:16 pm ---Under threats of landing Alford, I certainly hope this is accurate. At this point, Musselman as a 2 gives me a little comfort.

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Unless we change our mind on Musselmanís background check, I wouldnít look for it.

ImHogginIt:

--- Quote from: Pigs in Zen on April 05, 2019, 05:11:51 pm ---Would you STFU and let the guy fix the fat boyís Frank ups? We get it, you hate him, let the guy clean up the mess from the last three jack legs first though you pedantic ass.

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This right here

Catholic High Hog:
Yep, I agree the I do not think for one second we are getting Beard. People are just hyping it up more and more and setting themselves up for a big letdown.

Unnamed Source:
Alfordís body of work suggests he is not a championship coach and while we are at a lowly point of striving to get back to a Sweet 16, I really want us relevant on a national level

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