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Say we go 6-6 this year..
« on: February 04, 2019, 10:32:04 am »

Could we expect 10-12 4* plus a 5* or two in 2020? Or was this yearís recruiting class an outlier b/c of all the good instate talent?

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2019, 10:33:42 am »

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2019, 10:34:41 am »

Lol, no
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2019, 12:04:31 pm »

An "outlier?" Other than Burks and Hudson Henry, the other 4 star players were out of state players.

Two in state 4 stars went out of state. The instate players made up 2 of the 12-14 or whatever the number is of 4 star players who signed with us or are about to...

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2019, 12:30:19 pm »

We may not get a dozen 4* players, but I don't see a reason we can't be top 25 again.  That's what I expect from our program.  Top 25 recruiting and a top 25 team.  And no I don't mean this coming season.  After our program is built back from the Bielema mistake, we should be a top 25 program again.

I think the big draw this year was the early playing time.  Hopefully, that isn't the bait every year.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2019, 12:48:55 pm by cjack »
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2019, 12:34:47 pm »

So if we get 4 wins, do we do twice as good at recruiting as when we had 2 wins?

6 wins = 3x as good?

I am trying to figure out the math. Asking for a friend.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2019, 12:45:08 pm »

I think the big draw this year was the early playing time.  Hopefully, that isn't the bait every year.

Early PT most certainly was THE major selling factor in this class.  No other reason for big time talent to want to come to a 2-10 team.  Heck of a sales job by the Morris staff.  While it was probably not that difficult to demonstrate to a recruit that their position was open for the taking, actually convincing them that they (and recruits at other weak positions) were going to be part of something special was monumental. 

If OP is correct and we go 6-6, there will be a different pitch regarding being part of the next step up the ladder in the SEC West.  Something along the lines of 2-10 to 10-2 in 2 years...

Talented kids coming off undefeated or state championship teams don't sign with a team that thinks 6-6 is the mark. 

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 12:48:40 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 12:59:49 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.



Portland State
Colorado Stare
San Jose State
Mississippi State
Western Kentucky
Missouri

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 01:24:30 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.



Portland State
Ole Miss
Colorado State
San Jose State
W. Kentucky
Missouri

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 01:38:23 pm »

You guys have some faith after Missouri beat us 38-0 last season, they get Kelly Bryant, and that will be their bowl game (since they aren't going to one).

Not criticizing; I am hopeful as well.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 01:43:00 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.


Yep.  I don't see us winning an SEC game.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2019, 01:45:00 pm »

Does ole miss and miss state return a lot?
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2019, 01:46:49 pm »

Does ole miss and miss state return a lot?
at Ole Miss.....State will be much improved.  Could be wrong but that is enough considering our oline.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2019, 02:21:04 pm »

There is no guarantee of anything from one class to the next.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2019, 02:40:12 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.



First 4 games plus Kentucky and Western Kentucky for 6 wins.

Kentucky lost a ton from this years team.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2019, 03:21:30 pm by DeltaBoy »
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2019, 02:41:40 pm »

Could we expect 10-12 4* plus a 5* or two in 2020? Or was this yearís recruiting class an outlier b/c of all the good instate talent?
If we go 6-6 (so either 7-6 or 6-7), it will show progress and momentum. Particularly since most pundits are going to predict 4 to 5 wins given our youth and schedule.

That said, we may see similar, or even higher, average quality but the sheer numbers and class ranking may be lower as we will not be able to sign over 25, and maybe fewer (not sure anyone knows at this point how many 2020 schollies we will be able to give).
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2019, 02:42:18 pm »

Win the out of conference games and steal a couple somewhere along the way. We always play Ole Miss close and until last year the bounces went our way. Always blow a game against A&M that we are right in til the very end because the ball never bounces are way in Arlington. We are due to get over that hump...but I have thought that since the second overtime game in 2015. If we win 6 games and actually show some fight in the losses recruiting shouldn't suffer. Now have another lifeless 2-10 year getting blown out most weeks and it's gonna be hard to sell that to anyone.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2019, 02:43:55 pm »

You guys have some faith after Missouri beat us 38-0 last season, they get Kelly Bryant, and that will be their bowl game (since they aren't going to one).

Not criticizing; I am hopeful as well.
Drew Lock is a much better QB than Kelly Bryant.

Not saying we win or lose, but MIZ is downgrading at that position. 

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2019, 02:47:58 pm »

I'm hoping for a 5-7 with a mercy bid to Liberty Bowl which happened too the SEC schools previous years.  We'd fill it up just from boredom.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2019, 04:36:37 pm »

First 4 games plus Kentucky and Western Kentucky for 6 wins.

Kentucky lost a ton from this years team.

I believe there is a good possibility that the Hogs beat Ole Miss in Oxford because Ole Miss is losing their talented receivers and Kentucky is losing a lot of talent including their Star RB Snell who carried their offense this last season.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2019, 04:38:20 pm »

at Ole Miss.....State will be much improved.  Could be wrong but that is enough considering our oline.

With the addition of 2 stud JUCO lineman, the O Line is likely to be much improved this year.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2019, 04:54:29 pm »

State will be much improved.
Not so sure about that. They are losing a LOT of weapons to the draft and graduation.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2019, 05:31:19 pm »

Going 6-6 next year should get CCM a new contract written up, posters that think this one class is going to do tremendous wonders right off the bat are on peyote.  This is a rebuild, from the groundfloor up.  If we happen to win 5 games this upcoming season then I'm okay with that, not thrilled, I want us undefeated every year but I know who we are and where we've been.   In year 3 if CCM can get us to 7 wins then I think we are are the right course on this rebuild, anything better than that is just gravy.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2019, 05:35:16 pm »

Portland State
Colorado Stare
San Jose State
Mississippi State
Western Kentucky
Missouri

I think your pretty good on this, but the only weak one in Missouri, don't see us beating them next year...

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2019, 05:36:08 pm »

Could we expect 10-12 4* plus a 5* or two in 2020? Or was this yearís recruiting class an outlier b/c of all the good instate talent?

Morris is the best recruiter we've had but most coaches have a first year bump in recruits because they can sell playing time.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2019, 06:15:34 pm »

I think your pretty good on this, but the only weak one in Missouri, don't see us beating them next year...

Us? Ok...
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2019, 06:43:45 pm »

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2019, 06:46:55 pm »

?.. okay who are You?

Me? I'm a conundrum wrapped up in a riddle.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2019, 06:48:40 pm »

Me? I'm a conundrum wrapped up in a riddle.

So not worth anyone's time to waste... Thanks ..stay a wrapped up mess..    ;)
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2019, 06:57:20 pm »

Morris is the best recruiter we've had but most coaches have a first year bump in recruits because they can sell playing time.

On the other hand, they have another year to build on relationships.  With a little success next year (6-6 and a bowl game), the positive trend in recruiting should continue.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2019, 06:58:11 pm »

So not worth anyone's time to waste... Thanks ..stay a wrapped up mess..    ;)

Awww...
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2019, 07:03:32 pm »

Awww...

Thanks: That's sweet, I have been here a long time.. seen you sensitive cupcakes come and go... you make this fun..
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2019, 07:09:45 pm »

With the addition of 2 stud JUCO lineman, the O Line is likely to be much improved this year.

We haven't exactly struck gold with JUCO's playing at a high level year 1.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2019, 07:16:54 pm »

We haven't exactly struck gold with JUCO's playing at a high level year 1.

We gotta hope both come in and have a Sebastian Tretola type first year.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2019, 07:27:25 pm »

If we canít win six games next year then we hired the wrong coach.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2019, 07:38:42 pm »

If we canít win six games next year then we hired the wrong coach.

Why is that?

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2019, 07:39:44 pm »

I mean we may have hired the wrong guy. I personally donít think so but I donít think that if we donít win 6 next year, then that determines whether Morris is the right guy or not.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2019, 07:40:25 pm »

If we had won 10 games this past year, then would you say he was the right guy?
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2019, 07:57:38 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.



For the fun of it, we start 6-0.  End 8-4
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2019, 08:16:59 pm »

If we canít win six games next year then we hired the wrong coach.

BOOM goes the dynamite........

I almost completely disagree with you, but a small part of me is saying you....just....might....be....

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2019, 08:32:08 pm »

To a great extent this coming season, how many we win will be determined by who the newcomers listen to.  Of course, we'll have a ceiling due to who all we play, but we'll lose several we shouldn't if the effort and energy isn't there again this coming season.

And if nearly everyone buys in and plays with heart and soul, we'll win 1 or 2 we shouldn't.  No SEC team will take us seriously.  WHY SHOULD THEY.  That might play to our favor.  IF this staff can find some players they are willing to play when the beginners start the pud pulling routine, that will go a long way toward cleaning up the man made mess we had last season.  A lot rides on this staff educating this team, old and new, to TNA.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2019, 08:38:17 pm »

6 is beyond doable next year. Should have won 4 this year. Couldnít close CSU and OM. No reason to believe OM will be any better. Snorehead lost his 3 year starter at QB and some quality assistants. Kentucky and Mizzou will not be as good as they were this year. If Morris is worth anything as a coach and Hicks is an upgrade over TS & CK there is no reason team canít cobble together 6 wins
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2019, 09:17:21 pm »

4-0 in non con is a given for me, I know it isn't for some and understandable. MS St. loses a ton and would have done more this past season with a good coaching hire. They're in trouble, we should beat them at home with 8 games of experience under our belt. Good chance you pull one out of the other games that aren't Bama and LSU.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2019, 09:23:33 pm »

I'm very intrigued by Hicks. I keep thinking he's going to do better than people think in a system he already knows. This is what I'm hanging my hat on with regards to a big improvement this next year. We'll see if I'm wrong.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2019, 09:29:11 pm »

Not saying we win 6 but on that schedule the only ones I say we can't/shouldn't win are Alabama, Auburn and LSU. The rest of the games are in play for sure. the 4 out of conference should be in our favor and I could see Kentucky, Miss St, Ole Miss, and Missouri  2 of those going our way. I would even throw in an outside shot at A&M.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2019, 09:36:17 pm »

Portland State
Colorado Stare
San Jose State
Mississippi State
Western Kentucky
Missouri
EXACTLY
Plus one upset!!
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2019, 09:42:38 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.



On another note-- what an atrocious schedule. 
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2019, 10:01:25 pm »

Not saying we win 6 but on that schedule the only ones I say we can't/shouldn't win are Alabama, Auburn and LSU. The rest of the games are in play for sure. the 4 out of conference should be in our favor and I could see Kentucky, Miss St, Ole Miss, and Missouri  2 of those going our way. I would even throw in an outside shot at A&M.

If the Ags beat us again, that makes 8 in a row. I really want to beat them before they make it a decade straight.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2019, 10:57:29 pm »

 I think 6 would be a good guess. We should be better but Iím sure most teams think that way. We shouldnít be near as dysfunctional as we were last year especially if Hicks stays healthy. Iíll even go out on a limb and say that we get one weíre not suppose to in A&M, LSU, or Auburn.
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