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2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« on: January 14, 2019, 07:22:24 pm »

WE WILL HAVE ONE RUNNING THREAD FOR ALL OF THE POLLS FOR THE WHOLE SEASON, like we have done the last few last years.  Anyone can contribute to the thread as the polls come out each week. Wisco Pig has adopted the thread the last couple years and has done a great job and made sure it was updated each week. Hope he does the same this year!

Here is a link to last year's (2018 Polls Thread).
http://forums.hogville.net/index.php?topic=656249.0

Here is a link to the year before (2017 Polls Thread).
http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=627199.0

Here is a link to a HOGVILLE thread for PRE-SEASON that we already have started this year (2019). Thanks to "gchamblee" and others.
http://forums.hogville.net/index.php?topic=674279.0

2019 PRESEASON POLLS: As of 2/8/19

Collegiate Baseball Newspaper: : #25
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-1-poll-12-18-18/

Baseball America::  #18
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/


D1 Baseball: : #16
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/2019-d1baseball-preseason-top-25/

USA Today Coaches poll: 12th
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/baseball/2019/01/24/lsu-no-1-preseason-baseball-poll-ahead-vanderbilt-florida/2666426002/

Perfect Game: : #13
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=16007

NCBWA: : #15
http://www.sportswriters.net/ncbwa/news/2019/poll190204.html

College Baseball Central: ?
https://collegebaseballcentral.com/


Massey Composite Rankings
This Year:   https://www.masseyratings.com/cbase/compare.htm
Last Year Final:   https://www.masseyratings.com/cbase/arch/compare2018-16.htm

Warren Nolan: 2019 Rankings
RPI: 
SOS:
http://www.warrennolan.com/baseball/2018/index

Boyds World
RPI:





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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2019, 09:26:12 am »

Baseball America #18

https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/

1. Vandy
2. LSU
4. Florida
9. Miss St.
13. Ole Miss
15. Georgia
17. Auburn

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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2019, 11:28:28 am »

Baseball America #18

https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/

1. Vandy
2. LSU
4. Florida
9. Miss St.
13. Ole Miss
15. Georgia
17. Auburn

Top 18 in the nation, but bottom half of the SEC.  What a tough league!  Back when the the SEC Tournament was top 8 teams, it was sometimes said it was a stronger field than the CWS!
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2019, 03:29:59 pm »

12th in USA Today poll:

1. LSU (39-27)
2. Vanderbilt (35-27)
3. Florida (49-21)
 4. Texas Tech (45-20)
 5. Oregon State (55-12-1)
 6. North Carolina (44-20)
 7. UCLA (38-21)
 8. Louisville (45-19)
 9. Stanford (46-12)
10. Mississippi (48-17)
11. Florida State (43-19)
12. Arkansas (48-21)
13. Georgia (39-21)
14. East Carolina (44-18)
15. Mississippi State (39-29)
16. Texas (42-23)
17. TCU (33-23)
18. Baylor (37-21)
19. Clemson (47-16)
20. Auburn (43-23)
21. Oklahoma State (31-26-1)
22. Coastal Carolina (43-19)
23. North Carolina State (42-18)
24. Cal State Fullerton (36-25)
25. Michigan (33-21)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/baseball/2019/01/24/lsu-no-1-preseason-baseball-poll-ahead-vanderbilt-florida/2666426002/

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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2019, 09:54:30 pm »

Added NCBWA

NCBWA: : #15
http://www.sportswriters.net/ncbwa/news/2019/poll190204.html


2019 NCBWA DIVISION I PRESEASON POLL (FEB. 4)
Rk. School Conference Record Pvs.
1. Vanderbilt SEC 35-27 6
2. LSU SEC 39-27 –
3. Texas Tech Big 12 45-20 5
4. UCLA Pac-12 38-21 26
5. Oregon State Pac-12 53-11-1 1
6. Florida SEC 49-21 3
7. North Carolina ACC 44-20 6
8. Stanford Pac-12 46-12 17
9. Louisville ACC 45-19 27
10. Florida State ACC 43-19 22
11. Ole Miss SEC 48-17 18
12. Georgia SEC 39-21 20
13. Mississippi State SEC 39-29 4
14. East Carolina American Athletic 44-18 23
15. Arkansas SEC 47-19 2
16. Baylor Big 12 37-21 –
17. Clemson ACC 47-16 19
18. Texas Big 12 42-23 7
19. Auburn SEC 43-23 10
20. Oklahoma State Big 12 31-26-1 –
21. TCU Big 12 33-23 –
22. Coastal Carolina Sun Belt 43-19 24
23. Michigan Big Ten 33-20 –
24. Cal State Fullerton Big West 36-25 14
25. Duke ACC 45-18 9
26. Southern Miss Conference USA 44-18 25
27. Minnesota Big Ten 43-15 15
28. Wake Forest ACC 25-32 –
29. UC Irvine Big West 32-24 –
30. N.C. State ACC 42-18 21
31. Georgia Tech ACC 31-27 –
32. Arizona Pac-12 34-22 –
33. Florida Atlantic Conference USA 43-19-1 29
34. Washington Pac-12 35-26 8
35. UConn American Athletic 37-22-1 –
36. Missouri State Missouri Valley 40-17 –
37. Indiana Big Ten 40-19 29
38. Tennessee Tech Ohio Valley 53-12 11
39. San Diego State Mountain West 39-21 –
40. Houston American Athletic 38-25 –
Others receiving votes (listed alphabetically): Arizona State (23-32), Dallas Baptist (42-21), Elon(36-23), Gonzaga (33-24), Houston Baptist (29-30),Illinois (32-20), Kentucky (34-22), Louisiana (34-25),Louisiana Tech (39-20), Miami (Fla.) (28-26), North Carolina A&T (32-25), Ohio State (36-24), Oklahoma(38-25), Oral Roberts (38-20), Oregon (26-29), Saint John's (40-17), South Alabama (32-25), South Carolina(37-26), Stetson (48-13), Stony Brook (32-25), Texas A&M (40-22), Troy (42-21), UNCW (39-23).
By conference: ACC 8, SEC 8, Big 12 5, Pac-125, American Athletic 3, Big Ten 3, Big West 2, Conference USA 2, Missouri Valley 1, Mountain West 1, Ohio Valley 1, Sun Belt 1.
Records are from the 2018 season; Previous rank is from final 2018 poll
 

Founded in 1962, the NCBWA is dedicated to the advancement of college baseball. Membership is open to writers, broadcasters and publicists of the sport. Members receive a membership card, directory,newsletter updates and official votes in the Dick Howser Trophy, Regional Players of the Year and NCBWA All-America voting. The NCBWA also sponsors Division I Players of the Week, the Stopper of the Year, and publication and writing contests.

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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2019, 07:47:10 am »

Week 1 polls (Feb. 18)

D1Baseball: Arkansas is 16th  (same as preseason)
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25-feb-18/

Baseball America:        17th   (18th in preseason)
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/

Perfect Game:              13th   (same as preseason)
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=16121

NCBWA:                       13th   (15th in preseason)
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/ncbwa

Massey Composite:      10th         
https://www.masseyratings.com/cbase/compare.htm

Collegiate Baseball:     23rd   (25th in preseason)
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-1-poll-2-18-19/

USA Today:  1st in-season poll probably 2-3 weeks away
RPI:             Not useful until later (if you want to argue the same about the Week 1 polls, fair enough)
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2019, 12:09:57 pm »

How'd the country stack up this weekend?

Think we are ranked too high, low, or just right?
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Wisco Pig

Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2019, 12:44:05 pm »

How'd the country stack up this weekend?

Think we are ranked too high, low, or just right?

Not too many surprises across the country, from what I've read.  There was little movement in the major polls when compared with their preseason rankings. 

As for Arkansas, our average ranking seems to be 15th or so, and that seems about right.  If Wicklander, Kostyshock, Noland, et al. continue to pitch well, then I think we're a Top 10 team, but that remains to be seen.

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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 03:28:35 pm »

 My poll has Arkansas number one.  All hail Kim Jong Un.

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2019, 06:05:34 pm »

Composite of the major polls has the Razorbacks at #16.

https://www.baseballustat.info/rankings

Not a whole lot of movement. Pollsters tend to be pretty reluctant to move around teams after only a few games.

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2019, 08:56:33 am »

Composite of the major polls has the Razorbacks at #16.

https://www.baseballustat.info/rankings

Not a whole lot of movement. Pollsters tend to be pretty reluctant to move around teams after only a few games.

I think pollsters are stubborn in that regard and refuse to retract their miscalculation early on, even with the opening weekend handwriting on the wall.  They don't like to look clueless after week 1, even when they were clueless.

I use opening weekend as a legit measuring stick.  Either you are as good as billed or you aren't, and losing opening weekend games is never a good sign, especially when beaten by a weak sister of the poor.  I would say you could give Vandy a break because of the competition level they played, but the Dores didn't just get beat by TCU, they got trashed.  Not a good sign, and definitely not a sign of the top ranked team in the nation.  If i were betting money, I'd bet against Vandy even seeing Omaha.

Arkansas is the best team in the nation. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2019, 09:56:39 am »

 If LSU was Arkansas, and had finished the season playing in the championship series, The Tigers would have came back ranked #1.  Heck, they came in at #2 preseason and didn't even make Omaha last year.  Lol.  It has everything to do in the preseason with market and zero to do with the best team..

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2019, 10:49:05 am »

If LSU was Arkansas, and had finished the season playing in the championship series, The Tigers would have came back ranked #1.  Heck, they came in at #2 preseason and didn't even make Omaha last year.  Lol.  It has everything to do in the preseason with market and zero to do with the best team..

This is so true Arkansas size means that national writers dont care about pissing off hog fans when they can sell more in larger markets
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2019, 10:59:53 am »

Watched Vandy play some last night and they really don’t look like a one seed. Then again, it was a midweek game and it is very early in the season. Early last year the hogs didn’t look like a team that would make it to Omaha.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2019, 11:43:03 am »

Watched Vandy play some last night and they really don’t look like a one seed. Then again, it was a midweek game and it is very early in the season. Early last year the hogs didn’t look like a team that would make it to Omaha.

I wouldn't say that Arkansas was killing early last year. Splitting 4 games in Cali last year was not bad considering they beat the other good team there
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2019, 12:35:38 pm »

We'll see what happens with Florida in next week's polls.   They lost 6-1 at South Florida on Tuesday, then lost at home to North Florida last night, 7-1.   The Gators host Miami this weekend.   

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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2019, 02:35:44 pm »

We'll see what happens with Florida in next week's polls.   They lost 6-1 at South Florida on Tuesday, then lost at home to North Florida last night, 7-1.   The Gators host Miami this weekend.

Florida has come and gone.  2000 fans per conference home game will only take you so far.  Just another team with a large market that pollsters/media push always in the preseason (and even beyond).

Kids naturally like to play in front of large enthusiastic crowds.  When they take a quick look around, there is just a handful of teams that offer that.     

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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2019, 02:37:57 pm »

Florida has come and gone.  2000 fans per conference home game will only take you so far.  Just another team with a large market that pollsters/media push always in the preseason (and even beyond).

Kids naturally like to play in front of large enthusiastic crowds.  When they take a quick look around, there is just a handful of teams that offer that.     



Their fan base is very disappointing considering they are in the SEC and they are a fairly successful team.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2019, 03:32:50 pm »

Their fan base is very disappointing considering they are in the SEC and they are a fairly successful team.

Same holds true for them in basketball as well. It really is head scratching.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2019, 06:47:58 pm »

I wouldn't say that Arkansas was killing early last year. Splitting 4 games in Cali last year was not bad considering they beat the other good team there
Yeah but we were #6 going into that game... I hope we sweep dat Trojan arse this weekend.
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2019, 08:14:40 pm »

If LSU was Arkansas, and had finished the season playing in the championship series, The Tigers would have came back ranked #1.  Heck, they came in at #2 preseason and didn't even make Omaha last year.  Lol.  It has everything to do in the preseason with market and zero to do with the best team..
Did you see what LSU returned?  They got back Watson, Duplantis and Hess who all were DE.  Got Smith and Walker back from injury.  Walker was supposed to be their ace in 2018 and Smith was going to be a key hitter for them.  They also brought in a top recruiting class.  Completely reasonable they started ranked so high.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2019, 08:17:17 pm »

Watched Vandy play some last night and they really don’t look like a one seed. Then again, it was a midweek game and it is very early in the season. Early last year the hogs didn’t look like a team that would make it to Omaha.
They have as much talent on the mound as any team in the country, but it really struggled against teams who weren't offensive powerhouses last year.  They allowed at least 9 runs per game in Arizona against teams that all hit around .270 last year.  Will be interesting to see if that improves or if they are going to have to average 15 runs per game.
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2019, 08:20:26 pm »

We'll see what happens with Florida in next week's polls.   They lost 6-1 at South Florida on Tuesday, then lost at home to North Florida last night, 7-1.   The Gators host Miami this weekend.
Their offense is truly awful.  The Florida website has not accounted for last night's game, but through four games, Florida was triple slashing .238/.354/.287 as a team which is an OPS of .641.  Even our 2013 team which was poor offensively triple slashed .260/.346/.349.  The closest comp on the 2018 Hogs to that slash line was Jack Kenley and we all didn't trust him at the plate.
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2019, 08:21:33 am »

Week 2 polls (Feb. 25)

D1Baseball: Arkansas is 16th  (same as last week)
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25-february-25/

Baseball America:        17th   (same as last week)
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/

Perfect Game:              13th   (same as last week)
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=16158

Collegiate Baseball:     22nd  (23rd last week)
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-1-poll-2-25-19/
This poll generally has more early movement than those listed above.

NCBWA:                       13th   (same as last week)                 
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/ncbwa

Massey composite:        9th   (10th last week)
https://www.masseyratings.com/cbase/compare.htm

USA Today:            1st regular-season poll probably two weeks away
RPI:                       Not useful until later
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2019, 09:07:34 am »

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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2019, 10:38:31 am »

Week 2 polls (Feb. 25)

Not much movement in the major polls this morning; no movement for Arkansas after a 2-1 series victory over USC.

I'll update this post throughout the day as more polls and ratings are published.

D1Baseball: Arkansas is 16th  (same as last week)
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25-february-25/

Baseball America:        17th   (same as last week)
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/

Perfect Game:              13th   (same as last week)
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=16158

Collegiate Baseball:     22nd  (23rd last week)
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-1-poll-2-25-19/
This poll generally has more early movement than those listed above.

D1 can provide absolutely no justification for their absurd ranking of Florida. Wow.  For that matter, how can any of these polls justify ranking them so high?
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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2019, 10:55:20 am »

D1 can provide absolutely no justification for their absurd ranking of Florida. Wow.  For that matter, how can any of these polls justify ranking them so high?

1. Florida has gone to 7 of the past 9 College World Series and won 5 of the last 9 SEC championships.
2. The major early-season baseball polls tend not to move that much unless a team completely wipes out straight from the gate. Florida did manage to win its series against Miami last weekend.

I agree with you, though.  Neither of the above is a good justification for their ranking so far this season.  They have a fairly meager offense right now.
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2019, 11:14:53 am »

Florida did manage to win its series against Miami last weekend.

D1Baseball will definitely be asked about this in their chat by someone and you can bet it will respond with "Florida won its series...we don't drop teams that lose midweek games only".
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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2019, 11:17:39 am »

Florida should’ve dropped more no doubt
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2019, 11:21:47 am »

D1Baseball will definitely be asked about this in their chat by someone and you can bet it will respond with "Florida won its series...we don't drop teams that lose midweek games only".
On D1s website this was already brought up in the comments and this is exactly what D1 said.
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2019, 11:23:33 am »

D1Baseball will definitely be asked about this in their chat by someone and you can bet it will respond with "Florida won its series...we don't drop teams that lose midweek games only".

Ha.   If you scroll down to the comments under the D1 poll, you'll find this exchange:

Poster:  Florida still in the top 10? Seriously?
Kendall Rogers, D1: Florida just took a series from Miami over the weekend. Making brash judgements based on midweek games this early would be foolilsh and silly.
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I'll take with what I've seen with my own eyes over whatever midweek record someone has. I've seen Oregon State, Vandy, TCU, and now UF and Miami. UF's pitching is as good as anyones, IMO.
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2019, 12:13:51 pm »

Ha.   If you scroll down to the comments under the D1 poll, you'll find this exchange:

Poster:  Florida still in the top 10? Seriously?
Kendall Rogers, D1: Florida just took a series from Miami over the weekend. Making brash judgements based on midweek games this early would be foolilsh and silly.
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I'll take with what I've seen with my own eyes over whatever midweek record someone has. I've seen Oregon State, Vandy, TCU, and now UF and Miami. UF's pitching is as good as anyones, IMO.


Only problem is, their hitting is worse than Arkansas States...

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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2019, 03:55:50 pm »

Ha.   If you scroll down to the comments under the D1 poll, you'll find this exchange:

Poster:  Florida still in the top 10? Seriously?
Kendall Rogers, D1: Florida just took a series from Miami over the weekend. Making brash judgements based on midweek games this early would be foolilsh and silly.
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I'll take with what I've seen with my own eyes over whatever midweek record someone has. I've seen Oregon State, Vandy, TCU, and now UF and Miami. UF's pitching is as good as anyones, IMO.


I am not saying Florida should be unranked, but there has to be a nice compromise between the overreaction in Collegiate Baseball and the stubbornness of D1Baseball and Baseball America to its preseason Omaha 8 teams.  Unless you watch as much college baseball as I do outside of Arkansas games or dig through box scores like I do, many may not realize that Florida was 2 innings away from dropping the first two games to Miami.  Florida entered the 7th down 3-1 and had a bases loaded triple with 2 outs to take the lead in the Saturday game and ran away with the game in the 8th.  If Florida drops that game, it goes 1-4 on the week and 4-4 overall and they probably drop them into the teens.  The pendulum shouldn't swing on one inning, but they refuse to acknowledge the faults with their offense and the fact they aren't a top 10 team right now.

The same has also been true of Texas Tech, LSU, Vanderbilt, and Ole Miss on one side of the measurable (either pitching or offense), but they are being protected. 
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2019, 04:28:49 pm »

I am not saying Florida should be unranked, but there has to be a nice compromise between the overreaction in Collegiate Baseball and the stubbornness of D1Baseball and Baseball America to its preseason Omaha 8 teams.  Unless you watch as much college baseball as I do outside of Arkansas games or dig through box scores like I do, many may not realize that Florida was 2 innings away from dropping the first two games to Miami.  Florida entered the 7th down 3-1 and had a bases loaded triple with 2 outs to take the lead in the Saturday game and ran away with the game in the 8th.  If Florida drops that game, it goes 1-4 on the week and 4-4 overall and they probably drop them into the teens.  The pendulum shouldn't swing on one inning, but the refuse to acknowledge the faults with their offense and the fact they aren't a top 10 team right now.

The same has also been true of Texas Tech, LSU, Vanderbilt, and Ole Miss on one side of the measurable (either pitching or offense), but they are being protected. 

Adding a bit more, Florida didn’t just lose those mid-week games. They were soundly whipped by South Florida and North Florida, 6-1 and 7-1. Giving up runs mid-week can be attributed to lesser starters getting a chance. Only scoring 1 run in each game speaks to poor offense.
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« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2019, 04:28:49 pm »

I am not saying Florida should be unranked, but there has to be a nice compromise between the overreaction in Collegiate Baseball and the stubbornness of D1Baseball and Baseball America to its preseason Omaha 8 teams.  Unless you watch as much college baseball as I do outside of Arkansas games or dig through box scores like I do, many may not realize that Florida was 2 innings away from dropping the first two games to Miami.  Florida entered the 7th down 3-1 and had a bases loaded triple with 2 outs to take the lead in the Saturday game and ran away with the game in the 8th.  If Florida drops that game, it goes 1-4 on the week and 4-4 overall and they probably drop them into the teens.  The pendulum shouldn't swing on one inning, but the refuse to acknowledge the faults with their offense and the fact they aren't a top 10 team right now.

The same has also been true of Texas Tech, LSU, Vanderbilt, and Ole Miss on one side of the measurable (either pitching or offense), but they are being protected.

This exactly. I watch a ton of baseball. Florida is just not a top team right now. Top 25? Likely. They do have good pitching, but 3 losses already? Come on. That offense cannot produce anything at the moment.
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Re: 2019 BASEBALL POLLS
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2019, 07:18:12 pm »

I've updated the Week 2 polls and ratings at reply #23 above.   Some of you will be gratified to see that Arkansas is now 9th in the Massey composite, while Florida is 12th.

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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2019, 09:16:48 pm »

Did you see what LSU returned?  They got back Watson, Duplantis and Hess who all were DE.  Got Smith and Walker back from injury.  Walker was supposed to be their ace in 2018 and Smith was going to be a key hitter for them.  They also brought in a top recruiting class.  Completely reasonable they started ranked so high.
most definitely agree with LSU being ranked high, but uca, do you think the Hogs should have started higher than they did?  Question is not rhetorical.  I really am curious as to what you think because you know how our recruiting class compares to LSU's and the others.  Did DVH bring in a top flight recruiting class after the NC runner up performance? 

We did lose Blaine Knight, Carson Shaddy and others but Casey Martin, Hjerstad,  DFletcher, Isaiah Campbell, Kopps et al all came back.  The wild card for me is our recruiting class.  How did DVH do?  Was he able to get some studly talent to Fayetteville or did he lose some to signing early with MLB teams?

**was Wicklander a highly coveted recruit?  He looks like he is going to be death on lefties and maybe righties as well.  He looked nasty
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2019, 09:39:32 pm »

This is so true Arkansas size means that national writers dont care about pissing off hog fans when they can sell more in larger markets
I agree with your thinking but why do they love LSU so much?  Its not like Louisiana and Red Stick is any kind of large market, but the college baseball media simply drools over Paul Maineri (sp?) and the Tigers.  I guess its the pedigree the program has from when Skip Bertman was there and won 5 titles. 

Thats another reason why I wanted so badly for DVH to get his first title.  Hoping it might open the gates for several more and ARK can move up into that stratosphere of college baseball programs like LSU & Oregon State where no matter what, we would be acknowledged and respected.
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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2019, 05:30:26 am »

Arkansas is still at #16 in the composite of all the human polls.

https://www.baseballustat.info/rankings
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2019, 07:57:38 am »

Arkansas is still at #16 in the composite of all the human polls.

https://www.baseballustat.info/rankings
These polls don't mean anything at this point. The coaches and players especially, should stay away from them.
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« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2019, 08:18:27 pm »

Did you see what LSU returned?  They got back Watson, Duplantis and Hess who all were DE.  Got Smith and Walker back from injury.  Walker was supposed to be their ace in 2018 and Smith was going to be a key hitter for them.  They also brought in a top recruiting class.  Completely reasonable they started ranked so high.

And we finished runner up last year, returned most of our sluggers, got a diamond sr. transfer, and we dominate the 1st team coaches all SEC selections with 4 of the 13 spots,  but we are only good enough to the pollsters for 16th or 20th'ish?

Lol.  The majority of those poll bozos failed 1st grade math.

Not saying LSU isn't good.  They are in my early 8 for Omaha about midpack.  But I'm far from convinced of that.  I always have to give them the early edge for Omaha when they are solid because the are usually given super-regionals served on a silver platter by the NCAA. 

I do hope they are in the opposite bracket as Arkansas if they make it, for obvious historical reasons.
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2019, 02:46:37 pm »

Arkansas #11 and SEC #1 in latest Massey Rankings

https://www.baseballustat.info/king-of-the-conferences-part-i/part-vi
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« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2019, 05:31:53 pm »

And we finished runner up last year, returned most of our sluggers, got a diamond sr. transfer, and we dominate the 1st team coaches all SEC selections with 4 of the 13 spots,  but we are only good enough to the pollsters for 16th or 20th'ish?

Lol.  The majority of those poll bozos failed 1st grade math.

Not saying LSU isn't good.  They are in my early 8 for Omaha about midpack.  But I'm far from convinced of that.  I always have to give them the early edge for Omaha when they are solid because the are usually given super-regionals served on a silver platter by the NCAA. 

I do hope they are in the opposite bracket as Arkansas if they make it, for obvious historical reasons.

We also lost 2 weekend starters and 2 guys that could do long inning relief if needed.   What teams have in the bullpen seems to have a lot more to do with early season polls then hitting does based on the things I've read justifying a trans ranking
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« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2019, 08:21:28 am »

Week 3 polls (March 4)

Arkansas moved up slightly in the major polls after a 4-0 week.  The Hogs are 10th in the first regular-season USA Today coaches poll, and they've moved up six slots in the latest Collegiate Baseball poll.   They dropped a spot in the NCBWA poll, somehow.

USA Today:             10th   (12th in preseason poll)
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/baseball/polls/coaches-poll/

Perfect Game:         12th   (13th last week)
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=16177

D1Baseball:             15th  (16th last week)
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/college-top-25-march04-four-teams-join-rankings/

Baseball America:   16th   (17th last week)
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/

Collegiate Baseball: 16th  (22rd last week)
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-1-poll-3-4-19/

NCBWA:                   14th  (13th last week)
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/ncbwa                 

Massey composite:  16th  (11th last week)
https://www.masseyratings.com/cbase/compare.htm

RPI:                         31    (for what it's worth)
http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2019/rpi-live
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« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2019, 09:23:04 am »

Week 3 polls (March 4)

Arkansas moves up slightly in the major polls after a 4-0 week.   I'll update this post throughout the day as more polls and ratings come in.

Perfect Game:       12th   (13th last week)
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=16177

D1Baseball:           15th  (16th last week)
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/college-top-25-march04-four-teams-join-rankings/

Baseball America: 16th   (17th last week)
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/college-baseball-top-25/

USA Today:            12th  (preseason poll; 1st regular-season poll later today?)

RPI:                       31     (for what it's worth)
http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2019/rpi-live

what a joke. this team is criminally underrated. Texas swept LSU but there's no way they should have jumped that high. Typical Texas scenario
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« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2019, 09:28:15 am »

what a joke. this team is criminally underrated. Texas swept LSU but there's no way they should have jumped that high. Typical Texas scenario

It is the first week of March, no need to get riled up about polls that have little influence on NCAA tournament seeding. We just need to keep winning and let our play on the field do the talking.
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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2019, 09:35:11 am »

It is the first week of March, no need to get riled up about polls that have little influence on NCAA tournament seeding. We just need to keep winning and let our play on the field do the talking.

That's obvious. I'm talking about the bigger picture where we can't seem to do anything to garner respect. Any other team not named Arkansas coming off a runner-up being 9-1 would be Top 5 right now.

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« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2019, 10:37:48 am »

That's obvious. I'm talking about the bigger picture where we can't seem to do anything to garner respect. Any other team not named Arkansas coming off a runner-up being 9-1 would be Top 5 right now.

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« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2019, 10:47:35 am »

what a joke. this team is criminally underrated. Texas swept LSU but there's no way they should have jumped that high. Typical Texas scenario

We have an opportunity to beat Texas later this year. Too bad it’s a midweek series and at their place.

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« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2019, 10:50:09 am »

We have an opportunity to beat Texas later this year. Too bad it’s a midweek series and at their place.

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