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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2017, 04:50:34 pm »

Next time I have a shoulder injury I'll just point my orthopedic surgeon to your post for guidance, Benny.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2017, 08:17:17 am »

I've used this method, and it's helped me a lot. I've had 2 rotator cuff surgeries on my right shoulder and have a bone spur pressing against my rotator cuff on my left shoulder. So needless to say, I have shoulder problems. Using this method, it hasn't aggravated my shoulders at all.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/bench-press-grip-the-magic-number
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2017, 02:45:48 am »

I've used this method, and it's helped me a lot. I've had 2 rotator cuff surgeries on my right shoulder and have a bone spur pressing against my rotator cuff on my left shoulder. So needless to say, I have shoulder problems. Using this method, it hasn't aggravated my shoulders at all.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/bench-press-grip-the-magic-number

I'd caution against everybody using exactly the 1.5 factor, but yeah, that's basically what I was describing. The wide grip puts more strain on our shoulder, a fully tucked puts more strain on your triceps, so  you want somewhere around that 30-40 degree angle out from your body for your angles which is right around where your link describes.

If your doctor says your shoulders are too far gone to do such an exercise, by all means, go with your doctor. However, if your shoulders are healthy enough, using proper form you will not risk further injury.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2017, 11:18:50 am »

All time max was 345 at 220lbs.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2017, 12:55:25 am »

50 years old and hit 345, 225 23 reps
Work those triceps and helps push the weight
Dont see this lasting long though, gonna have to increase cardio to get ready for beach season in next two or three weeks.  With that happening the weight will fall off me and my lifts
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2017, 08:24:11 am »

I had just started getting into heavy bench the last couple years and I think that is the reason I have issues because of my age.  I did hit 350 back in the summer of 2015 then I would change my eating habits and drop 15 to 20 lbs and lift moderately to let my shoulders and tendonitis heal a bit.  I got back into heavy bench last summer after a long break and ended up doing 365 at a body weight of 210 which was 5 lbs lighter then when I benched 350.  I also started experimenting with the keto diet earlier this year and dropped back down to 195 and felt awesome with the way my energy levels would be constant with the high fat intake.  I then got back to carb loading and lifting heavy this spring and within 3 months I could bench 380 at a body weight of 207.5 which is lighter then when I benched 365.  I have come to a conclusion that every time I hit a new bench press personal record I could diet down for a few months and comeback stronger each time at a lower body weight and I am considering starting heavy again early next year to see if I can hit 400 at a lower body weight then 207.5 and believe me I do not take any anabolic steroids lol.
Interesting stuff. So basically sounds like body weight cycles when hitting a peak or personal record seem to push you to a new level. Iíve never heard of anything like this but sounds pretty cool.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2018, 01:28:07 pm »

I do not bench press.  All body weight exercises.  However, I can pass the Presidential Physical Fitness Test at my age.  Saw neighborhood elementary school doing it.  Thought I would take on the challenge too
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2018, 09:50:32 am »

Im 5'7 150..lbs and best so far is 205... My baby brother is 5'9 205 and benching 465... was a national champ powerlifter in high school.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2018, 09:10:10 am »

405 for one rep max at bodyweight of 202.

225 for 36 reps at bodyweight of 225. 

Bench has always come pretty easy for me which is ironic because I have pretty long arms.
bench or any other lift for that matter, does not mean much without knowing the lifter's body weight. My sophomore year of college, I lifted in the spring semester with two close friends who were on the Razorbacks. The assistant strength coach then, Gorge Williford, let me work out with them. Anyway, I got a max of 285 on 1 rep of bench and 235 on 1 rep of power clean. I weighed 165 at that time. George told me I had the best power clean form he had seen.

Reading above posts, I did not know that lifts like bench press were bad for shoulders. Tennis starting in my late 20's, not quite 30 years ago, has ruined both of my shoulders...I serve right and hit ground strokes left. Surgery on my right shoulder back in 2005 and left shoulder has had bursitis a couple of times along with general soreness and weakness.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2018, 12:30:31 pm »

bench or any other lift for that matter, does not mean much without knowing the lifter's body weight. My sophomore year of college, I lifted in the spring semester with two close friends who were on the Razorbacks. The assistant strength coach then, Gorge Williford, let me work out with them. Anyway, I got a max of 285 on 1 rep of bench and 235 on 1 rep of power clean. I weighed 165 at that time. George told me I had the best power clean form he had seen.

Reading above posts, I did not know that lifts like bench press were bad for shoulders. Tennis starting in my late 20's, not quite 30 years ago, has ruined both of my shoulders...I serve right and hit ground strokes left. Surgery on my right shoulder back in 2005 and left shoulder has had bursitis a couple of times along with general soreness and weakness.

Lesson:  donít overdo lifting as I also torched both of my shoulders, successfully lifting at least 3x my body weight.    The eternal and continued pain you have to endure for the phony bragging rights isnít worth it....   the pain from torching your rotator cuffs is indescribable....
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2018, 01:03:31 pm »

Lesson:  donít overdo lifting as I also torched both of my shoulders, successfully lifting at least 3x my body weight.    The eternal and continued pain you have to endure for the phony bragging rights isnít worth it....   the pain from torching your rotator cuffs is indescribable....

I reached my goal of twice my body weight and immediately backed off. I can't imagine pushing it to 3X body weight. I have no reason for a strong bench press anymore. So I stick to the moderate weight and just focus on having a well developed chest. I'm just trying to look good naked.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2018, 07:36:40 am »


After my 40th b-day, I had to (com)promise my wife I'd never put more than 3 plates on a side again.  Ever; including squats and deads.  Seems to work out.  Not heavy enough to hurt anything but enough to do some work.  So never break 315 on anything anymore.  But it's good to know I could.   
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2018, 06:32:21 pm »

215 at 195.  Want to hit 225 by age 50 - I have a few weeks to go. I figured out the past six months that weighted dips and military press both helped my bench (triceps and shoulders I guess).  I tried 225 over a year ago, and psyched myself out of it so bad I haven't tried since.  But I have to! 215 went up pretty easy so I am hoping I have the confidence to push 225 once.

And then a year from now I will laugh as i push 250 or more... i hope!
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2018, 11:36:09 pm »

I'm 50 but only doing 175.  8)
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2018, 07:40:05 pm »

I got 225 a week before my 50th!  I did it twice to make sure the first one wasn't an accident. I am tickled pink and excited about the future.

I ain't skeered of 2 plates any longer. So mad I wasted all those years benching completely wrong, but glad I still managed this before it was too late!
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2018, 03:01:08 am »

I do not bench press.  All body weight exercises.  However, I can pass the Presidential Physical Fitness Test at my age.  Saw neighborhood elementary school doing it.  Thought I would take on the challenge too

You hang out at the neighborhood elementary school watching kids?   Creep.

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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2018, 06:01:13 am »

Lesson:  donít overdo lifting as I also torched both of my shoulders, successfully lifting at least 3x my body weight.    The eternal and continued pain you have to endure for the phony bragging rights isnít worth it....   the pain from torching your rotator cuffs is indescribable....

This is true and the rehab after shoulder surgery is 6 mnths - 1 year to be back in full. I decided getting my shoulder worked on wasn't worth it 'yet' but my rotor cuffs make it difficult to even throw a baseball.

I will be getting my right shoulder worked on soon.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2019, 12:39:49 am »

Lesson:  donít overdo lifting as I also torched both of my shoulders, successfully lifting at least 3x my body weight.    The eternal and continued pain you have to endure for the phony bragging rights isnít worth it....   the pain from torching your rotator cuffs is indescribable....

Also, you won't ever hurt your shoulders doing the bench press if you are using good form. Pushing weight beyond what you can maintain proper form is an easy way to injure yourself. Same thing that holds for pushups holds for bench as well. You will be a lot better of slow and controlled rather than trying to go fast (pushups) or heavy (bench) trying to achieve some entirely arbitrary number (reps or max) to show off.

If you can't go slow and in control, pausing at the bottom, then you need to lighten up your weight until you can or move to a different exercise that will allow you to build yourself up to being able to use just an open bar before going any further.

Same thing with people who "squat" 300+ pounds but have their knees wobbling all over the place, are lifting up with their backs for part of it, aren't sticking their butts out, or aren't going to at least parallel. You aren't impressing anybody but instead giving people anxiety about when, not if, you are going to seriously hurt yourself.

There is a time and a place to train or explosion and quickness. This is not that place. Namely, you have to stop so you can't train explosiveness properly with powerlift exercises. There's a reason they teach in football and a lot of sports to practice "through" and not "to". You have no choice but to "let up" with all the powerlift exercises. Unless you are throwing the barbell into the air and catching it on your bench or something stupid.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2019, 03:53:36 am »

saw a great documentary on Ronnie Coleman.....dude can barely walk now, from all the damage he did to himself with heavy lifting.  But he still goes to the gym multiple times per week and does it some more.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2019, 11:46:32 am »

Also, you won't ever hurt your shoulders doing the bench press if you are using good form. Pushing weight beyond what you can maintain proper form is an easy way to injure yourself. Same thing that holds for pushups holds for bench as well. You will be a lot better of slow and controlled rather than trying to go fast (pushups) or heavy (bench) trying to achieve some entirely arbitrary number (reps or max) to show off.

If you can't go slow and in control, pausing at the bottom, then you need to lighten up your weight until you can or move to a different exercise that will allow you to build yourself up to being able to use just an open bar before going any further.

Same thing with people who "squat" 300+ pounds but have their knees wobbling all over the place, are lifting up with their backs for part of it, aren't sticking their butts out, or aren't going to at least parallel. You aren't impressing anybody but instead giving people anxiety about when, not if, you are going to seriously hurt yourself.

There is a time and a place to train or explosion and quickness. This is not that place. Namely, you have to stop so you can't train explosiveness properly with powerlift exercises. There's a reason they teach in football and a lot of sports to practice "through" and not "to". You have no choice but to "let up" with all the powerlift exercises. Unless you are throwing the barbell into the air and catching it on your bench or something stupid.

Agree with everything except the parallel part of the squat. Not everyone should go to parallel right off the bat. If you have mobility issues, you shouldn't push to parallel until you get those solved. Go as low as you can while keeping your heals attached to the ground. As soon as they are to the point that they need to come off the ground, you've gone past your mobility range. Solve your ankle/hip mobility issues before you force yourself to get parallel in a squat.

If you can't get parallel, you have no business doing heavy squats anyways though.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2019, 04:05:10 pm »

Agree with everything except the parallel part of the squat. Not everyone should go to parallel right off the bat. If you have mobility issues, you shouldn't push to parallel until you get those solved. Go as low as you can while keeping your heals attached to the ground. As soon as they are to the point that they need to come off the ground, you've gone past your mobility range. Solve your ankle/hip mobility issues before you force yourself to get parallel in a squat.

If you can't get parallel, you have no business doing heavy squats anyways though.

Haha, reading your post, all I kept thinking was, if you can't do that, don't be squatting anyways, then I got to your last line. Yeah, I felt your heels being on the floor and such was a given.

Totally agree though. Trying to build strength or power with faulty range of motion or stability is like building a house on mud.

Of course, I'm probably the worst posterboy for that advise, unless the poster is a warning poster...
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2019, 11:25:43 pm »

You all sound like a bunch of weak old women.  I am putting up 275 easily for reps.  Must be some old dudes in this  thread that need some male nehancement if you know what I mean.  Bald, Weak, and impotent is a terrible way to go through life you old dogs.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #72 on: September 03, 2019, 03:46:11 pm »

At age 33...225 lbs, my max was 500 lbs at a gym in Heber Springs in 1987. Had a heart attack and quad bypass surgery 2/1-2 years ago came back from the other side thanks to God's grace and some really great First Responders from Maumelle Arkansas. Just turned 65 in June of this year and am back in the gym doing right at 275. Had to go thru rehab for a few months learning out to crawl, walk, jog, and run now. I do feel great and have come to the part of my life where I am blessed just to get back in the gym once again.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2019, 05:50:42 pm »

You all sound like a bunch of weak old women.  I am putting up 275 easily for reps.  Must be some old dudes in this  thread that need some male nehancement if you know what I mean.  Bald, Weak, and impotent is a terrible way to go through life you old dogs.
In my opinion, you want to look like you bench 400 vs benching 400. I look like I can bench 400 but I can only put up around 315 right now. A lot of that has to do with how you train.  There are quite a few guys in the gyms I go to(lifetime and gold's) who can bench close to 400 but don't look like it.  They usually have a gut and are overweight.
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Re: Bench Press Max
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2019, 06:54:55 pm »

In my opinion, you want to look like you bench 400 vs benching 400. I look like I can bench 400 but I can only put up around 315 right now. A lot of that has to do with how you train.  There are quite a few guys in the gyms I go to(lifetime and gold's) who can bench close to 400 but don't look like it.  They usually have a gut and are overweight.

I weight 220-225 after a big meal.
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