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Al Boarland

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Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« on: March 13, 2019, 06:38:51 pm »

This season....
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 06:49:11 pm »

Losing key starters on all three levels of the defense doesn't augur good for the Hogs.

The upside is that Special Teams and the Offense will be hard pressed to be worse-- we were literally in the 110+ range of scoring and ST efficiency,  so they won't need to work as hard, or with as thin of margins.

They're still marginally the strength of the team, but the gap between them and the offense simply *must* close to a great degree, if we're going to see much improvement in all.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2019, 06:52:54 pm »

It depends if we get better than we have had at safety, stay injury free? Lots of talent on that side of the ball, but back end is short on experience and proven depth is lacking everywhere. So top 50 without injury to key players like Scoota and Sosa. Much worse if so.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2019, 06:55:08 pm »

It depends if we get better than we have had at safety, stay injury free? Lots of talent on that side of the ball, but back end is short on experience and proven depth is lacking everywhere. So top 50 without injury to key players like Scoota and Sosa. Much worse if so.
I hope we finish better than 50th in our conference. Probably bottom 1/3, but hopefully a lot better on the offensive end.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2019, 07:03:29 pm »

I say 12th but we still win 6 games
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2019, 07:18:27 pm »

A good "let's rank the D" thread.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2019, 07:23:52 pm »

I am hopeful we see consistency and drastically improved effort on D, particularly in the secondary. A lot of our ranking will be dependent on staying healthy and adding depth at LB. My guess at this point is in the 10th neighborhood.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2019, 07:25:06 pm »

If we cut down on the three and outs and give the defense some rest between series, it should automatically be better. How much better? Middle of the road in the SEC maybe, but it will be improved.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2019, 09:15:24 pm »

It was pretty "rank" last year.  I'm hoping to see marked improvement this year.    :D
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2019, 09:21:39 pm »

I’m glad that the coaches are recruiting talker players.  We need a longer D.

PorkSoda

Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2019, 09:27:32 pm »

I’m glad that the coaches are recruiting talker players.  We need a longer D.
especially if we want to fill the gap

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2019, 09:42:50 pm »

I will be very happy with 7th-8th.

I think we improve statistically. I also think we improve qualitatively--even with the players who moved on.

In part our defensive stats were exacerbated by the inability of the offense to hang onto the ball and to sustain drives.

Better offensive production along with improved fundamentals should move us up. And becoming merely "average" would be huge improvement. Anything above that will be noteworthy and would bring a much better than expected season.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2019, 10:00:35 pm »

I am hopeful we see consistency and drastically improved effort on D, particularly in the secondary. A lot of our ranking will be dependent on staying healthy and adding depth at LB. My guess at this point is in the 10th neighborhood.

I think you nailed it!  I really believe effort was missing a lot last year.  Two starters particularly that are gone now. 
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2019, 10:12:55 pm »

I'm hesitant to put an actual number, but I'll be surprised if we finish anywhere other than bottom third of the conference.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2019, 10:18:03 pm »

I think we will struggle some early but settle down and end up somewhere between
6th-8th in the conference.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2019, 11:34:37 pm »

If they are coachable, committed and give 100% effort I will be completely satisfied and happy as a lark.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2019, 11:51:35 pm »

Not sure on rank, but a couple goals I'd like to achieve would be hold all OOC opponents under 30 and all conference opponents under 40 (with Bama as a possible exception). These seem like reasonable expectations
I'd like to see us be at least 5th defensively in the division and maybe like 9th in conference

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2019, 11:56:10 pm »

A good "let's rank the D" thread.
I'm holding out until we get threads asking to rank the individual units.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2019, 11:10:15 am »

Depends if Colton Jackson starts at LT or not
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2019, 11:38:21 am »

I want to believe it's going to be improved but am at the point will have to see it to believe it. The past few years when the game was on the line you just knew the defense would collapse and give up the game winning drive. Last year was no different but trying to be optimistic for 2019.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2019, 11:41:44 am »

I'm holding out until we get threads asking to rank the individual units.

I'll be surprised if it can last for 60 minutes...
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2019, 07:14:51 pm »

Middle of the league...because of improved offense, the D will be on the field less...hopefully.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2019, 07:54:57 pm »

I think we will be improved. 11th.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2019, 10:28:12 pm »

6-10
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2019, 11:19:12 pm »

I think we will be improved. 11th.

My thought as well. However this LB spots has me worried
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2019, 12:37:32 am »

11
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2019, 12:16:40 pm »

This year I would think finishing 10th or 11th wouldn’t be horrible.  With the talent we are bringing in (sans LB so far) we could easily be closer to 8th in 2020 and could ultimately break the top 5 at times if we can keep stacking talent. 
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2019, 12:55:13 pm »

It was pretty "rank" last year.  I'm hoping to see marked improvement this year.    :D

Yep.  Still with so many focused on the offense (which I do not argue scoring must improve) I still say the defensive improvement will be the tell tale.  Give Arkansas even a middle of the pack defense and we will win games.  Stay near or at the very bottom of the conference...it's gonna be a long Year #2.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2019, 01:29:15 pm »

Somewhere between 11th and 13th.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2019, 01:54:01 pm »

Yep.  Still with so many focused on the offense (which I do not argue scoring must improve) I still say the defensive improvement will be the tell tale.  Give Arkansas even a middle of the pack defense and we will win games.  Stay near or at the very bottom of the conference...it's gonna be a long Year #2.
In the middle of the season the defense was better than it's statistical performance. We saw things we have not seen in a while (a goal line stand!).

The reason for the focus on the offense is that no defense looks good when the you throw 18 picks.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2019, 08:36:12 am »

A improved O-Line to sustain drives with fewer turnovers and we go from 14th to 6th automatically not having to play defense on our own 35 following a turnover.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2019, 10:22:39 am »

If we cut down on the three and outs and give the defense some rest between series, it should automatically be better. How much better? Middle of the road in the SEC maybe, but it will be improved.
I pretty much agree here, and would add that I just hope to see a marked improvement on forcing punts when we get teams in 3rd and 8+ yards. It just seems like we give up way too many conversions. We gave up 59 third down conversions in 12 games. That’s actually fairly low, but the reason for that is that we had trouble just getting people into third down. Still, nearly five opportunities a game to get the football back. Had we eliminated five of those over the course of the season we’d have won at least three more games. Obviously it would have to be the right five, but you get my drift.

Arkansas defense under Coach Morris is going to be about getting the ball back via big plays, whether it’s turnovers or the 2nd down big sack forcing 3rd and long, followed by a stop. It won’t matter that much if they give up lots of yards—they are going to pile up some yards of their own.  Just get the ball back.

 That’s just my humble opinion.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2019, 11:40:57 am »

10th through 14th.

It'll be bad again.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2019, 11:45:06 am »

Our DC is a better recruiter than coach of a defense so once again I have very low expectations of our defensive ranking in the conference.  Just want a 6 win season this year.  If we lose just 1 of our 4 out-of-conference games they won’t make it.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2019, 11:05:27 pm »

A improved O-Line to sustain drives with fewer turnovers and we go from 14th to 6th automatically not having to play defense on our own 35 following a turnover.

I'm not ready to say we shoot into the top half, but this is the right idea—how the better offense will help our defense. Last season, when we showed a decent defense in stretches, we'd finally collapse after too many offensive 3-and-outs, etc, etc.

I'll say in the 8th-9th range.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2019, 09:40:53 am »

I am not sure we know enough about the LBs and Dline to make a prediction.  I know I don't feel comfortable with the LBs and Dline yet.
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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2019, 09:53:43 am »

A improved O-Line to sustain drives with fewer turnovers and we go from 14th to 6th automatically not having to play defense on our own 35 following a turnover.

I don't know why people ignore this.  It would also be helpful to avoid your own QB having 6 interception games.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2019, 11:52:57 am »

I don't know why people ignore this.  It would also be helpful to avoid your own QB having 6 interception games.

I agree.  The offense should be able to take care of the ball in 2019.  Ben had only 7 interceptions in 2018 I believe. 

But Ben has the potential to throw TWICE as many TD's as did Ty last season.  If he can throw 20 TD's with only 9 interceptions then that will translate into W's and will help the Defense tremendously. 

But Defensively I believe players are going to excel way faster than last year.  We have new players who are green, however as they get over their learning curve they are going to make a difference as their confidence grows.  I think the D could actually have some fun this year if they can learn to really pressure offenses the way Chavis wants.

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Re: Where do you think the D will rank in the conference
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2019, 01:40:24 pm »

I think being in the same system two years in a row makes a bigger impact than the loss or gain of players.  Defensively we still have Agim and Scoota.  We will take a giant step forward on both sides of the ball. 
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