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Title: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Kevin McPherson on March 21, 2019, 11:03:40 pm
FYI ...

* Khalil has not been cleared. Yes, Mase put out a tweet earlier that he was cleared, but it was quickly deleted. I can say that the staff and the Garland family have not given up on him being cleared, so stay tuned.

* Mase reached out to me and let me know he's coming back. I debated putting that on social media, but elected not to. A few minutes later, he tweeted it himself. This is big news for Arkansas.

I still see 2 other players as possiblities to move on, but it's looking more and more likely that 1 of those will stay. Also remember that some attrition may be a result of a mutual decision, so addition by subtraction may be a welcome thing.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 21, 2019, 11:05:43 pm
FYI ...

* Khalil has not been cleared. Yes, Mase put out a tweet earlier that he was cleared, but it was quickly deleted. I can say that the staff and the Garland family have not given up on him being cleared, so stay tuned.

* Mase reached out to me and let me know he's coming back. I debated putting that on social media, but elected not to. A few minutes later, he tweeted it himself. This is big news for Arkansas.

I still see 2 other players as possiblities to move on, but it's looking more and more likely that 1 of those will stay. Also remember that some attrition may be a result of a mutual decision, so addition by subtraction may be a welcome thing.
Looking more likely that we wonít have any core players gone!!
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: ShadowHawg on March 21, 2019, 11:06:14 pm
Yes! If Garland wete to get cleared we would have the team we all have been waiting for.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: WilsonHog on March 21, 2019, 11:06:36 pm
Would love to keep Reggie and Ethan as well.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 21, 2019, 11:08:13 pm
Desi Sills 6í2
Isaiah Joe 6í5
Mason Jones 6í5
Khalil Garland 6í6
Reggie Chaney 6í8

Would that be to small to be a lineup guys?

Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: RicebirdHog on March 21, 2019, 11:10:05 pm
Garland hasn't played in a game in so long it wouldn't matter anyways. Besides we have 1,000 other guards on the roster
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on March 21, 2019, 11:11:56 pm
Would love to keep Reggie and Ethan as well.

The fact Ethan was able to come in and contribute at the level that he did even against a so so Providence team shows he has great upside. Looking forward to watching him develop. Same with Reggie but we at least got glimpses of what he can do this season
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: HawgHoops on March 21, 2019, 11:15:21 pm
FYI ...

* Khalil has not been cleared. Yes, Mase put out a tweet earlier that he was cleared, but it was quickly deleted. I can say that the staff and the Garland family have not given up on him being cleared, so stay tuned.

* Mase reached out to me and let me know he's coming back. I debated putting that on social media, but elected not to. A few minutes later, he tweeted it himself. This is big news for Arkansas.

I still see 2 other players as possiblities to move on, but it's looking more and more likely that 1 of those will stay. Also remember that some attrition may be a result of a mutual decision, so addition by subtraction may be a welcome thing.


Any idea why Mase put out the Garland tweet? Bad intel on his part?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Kevin McPherson on March 21, 2019, 11:21:36 pm

Any idea why Mase put out the Garland tweet? Bad intel on his part?

I did not see the tweet, but my phone blew up and when I went to Twitter it was deleted. No telling what that was about, but KG has not been cleared. Again, the staff and the Garland family continue to maintain hope that he'll be cleared.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: King Kong on March 21, 2019, 11:29:29 pm
I did not see the tweet, but my phone blew up and when I went to Twitter it was deleted. No telling what that was about, but KG has not been cleared. Again, the staff and the Garland family continue to maintain hope that he'll be cleared.

Is your understanding if Garland is cleared that would be a cleared from that point forward?

Or is there the potential of him returning to uncleared at a later point?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Knot2brite on March 21, 2019, 11:58:53 pm
Probably amazing what some playing time will do to change a kids mind about transferring
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Kevin McPherson on March 22, 2019, 12:12:44 am
Is your understanding if Garland is cleared that would be a cleared from that point forward?

Or is there the potential of him returning to uncleared at a later point?

If it ever happens, I'm sure he'd be closely monitored with his playing status always dependent upon his evolving health.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Kevin McPherson on March 22, 2019, 12:15:46 am
Someone posted on Twitter that earlier Mase had put on Instagram that he was transferring to Memphis ... if true that he posted that (I'm not on Instagram, didn't see it) it helps explain why he felt compelled to say he's coming back to Arkansas ... prolly foolin' around ... the interwebs a dangerous thang!
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on March 22, 2019, 12:19:13 am
Garland hasn't played in a game in so long it wouldn't matter anyways. Besides we have 1,000 other guards on the roster
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Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 22, 2019, 12:30:53 am
Garland hasn't played in a game in so long it wouldn't matter anyways. Besides we have 1,000 other guards on the roster
Garland would be the best combo guard weíve had this decade.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Wi11ieBeamin on March 22, 2019, 01:06:16 am
Better than Barford?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: mhuff on March 22, 2019, 03:39:21 am
Someone please tell me if it is possible for a player to play any minutes and not lose a year of eligibility i.e. Henderson . Also, exclude a medical hardship senario. THANKS
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: ErieHog on March 22, 2019, 05:18:58 am
Better than Barford?

As a redshirt sophomore without SEC minutes compared to senior Barford...maybe not.  But danged good.  I'm not holding out any hope for him, or planning to get upbeat about him in the lineup this fall, but such a player would be a huge addition to a roster that's struggled at times to find versatile wings that can score and defend at a high level.

There is an awful lot of time between now and next year.  I wish Garland nothing but the best in his continuing efforts to be cleared. It would be a welcome balm for a troubled program.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Hogmatic on March 22, 2019, 07:43:19 am
Henderson should have been playing more as many have said but this game with Providence was fool's gold.  Let's see how we play against IU on Saturday.  The wider lane and extended 3 line worked in our favor against a very slow Providence team.  The game was almost easy because we shot great early and pretty solid the rest of the way.   

We don't usually shoot that good so the rebounding issues are masked if we shoot good.   IU will have a better front court than Providence and I would be amazed if we shot great 2 games in a row.   If we shoot our normal % then rebounding will be tested.  Chaney, Henderson and Gabe against the IU front court will give us a feel if those 3 can carry the load next season.   If we look great against IU then everything gets interesting.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: parallaxpig on March 22, 2019, 07:51:09 am
FYI ...

* Khalil has not been cleared. Yes, Mase put out a tweet earlier that he was cleared, but it was quickly deleted. I can say that the staff and the Garland family have not given up on him being cleared, so stay tuned.

* Mase reached out to me and let me know he's coming back. I debated putting that on social media, but elected not to. A few minutes later, he tweeted it himself. This is big news for Arkansas.

I still see 2 other players as possiblities to move on, but it's looking more and more likely that 1 of those will stay. Also remember that some attrition may be a result of a mutual decision, so addition by subtraction may be a welcome thing.

So has there been a time frame established by MA on how long he is going to carry Garland?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: pigzwillrise on March 22, 2019, 07:52:17 am
Why tweet that unless he got some good news ?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Little Lady Back on March 22, 2019, 07:54:32 am
Why tweet that unless he got some good news ?

My thoughts exactly...interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: hogwood on March 22, 2019, 07:58:53 am
Yes! If Garland wete to get cleared we would have the team we all have been waiting for.

Except we'd be missing Gafford. That's just CMAs pattern of luck here. Always missing a piece or two. Seems its just out of his control sometimes - whether its Qualls, Kapita, or Garland...
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: hogwood on March 22, 2019, 08:00:13 am
So has there been a time frame established by MA on how long he is going to carry Garland?

That would be good to know, as it could impact scholarship availability.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: hoglady on March 22, 2019, 08:11:50 am
Relieved to hear Mason Jones has decided to stay and I'm awfully glad that Chaney could be talked into going to Providence.

But it's still concerning that one of your top scorers was even considering leaving.
And a core piece of the team is probably still on the fence about staying.


Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: jgphillips3 on March 22, 2019, 08:13:15 am
My thoughts exactly...interesting to say the least.

I concur.  I would say that Garland was probably told something by doctors that gave him hope that he would be cleared soon and Jones just got excited and jumped the gun.  Thereís no way Jones posts that unless Garland told him something that made him believe it was likely.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: cardsNhogs on March 22, 2019, 08:21:14 am
Desi Sills 6í2
Isaiah Joe 6í5
Mason Jones 6í5
Khalil Garland 6í6
Reggie Chaney 6í8

Would that be to small to be a lineup guys?
I would love to see Sills over Harris!!
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: The_Iceman on March 22, 2019, 08:27:21 am
I would love to see Sills over Harris!!

Their SEC per 40 numbers say that Sills may need to play over Harris, especially considering potential for growth over the offseason.

SEC Per 40 Stats:
Harris - 9.0 pts, 6.1 asts, 3.6 rebs, 0.9 stls.
Sills - 12.2 pts, 3.7 asts, 2.7 rebs, 1.2 stls.

SEC Efficiency Stats:
Harris - 40% 2pt, 11% 3pt, 61% ft.
Sills - 35% 2pt, 47% 3pt, 70% ft.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Smithian on March 22, 2019, 08:36:30 am
Their SEC per 40 numbers say that Sills may need to play over Harris, especially considering potential for growth over the offseason.

SEC Per 40 Stats:
Harris - 9.0 pts, 6.1 asts, 3.6 rebs, 0.9 stls.
Sills - 12.2 pts, 3.7 asts, 2.7 rebs, 1.2 stls.

SEC Efficiency Stats:
Harris - 40% 2pt, 11% 3pt, 61% ft.
Sills - 35% 2pt, 47% 3pt, 70% ft.
I'm not selling my Jalen Harris stock. He is an extreme athlete and plays confidently. Next year when the team will have to play smaller and faster and Joe and Jones take steps forward as perimeter scorers, I think Jalen Harris will be able to get to the rim much easier and make an easier impact on games.

I'm still waiting and seeing on what happens with the frontcourt, but next year's backcourt will be the deepest and perhaps best we've had in a while. Just got to keep most of them in house and add a swingman to help at the 3.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Smithian on March 22, 2019, 08:38:19 am
As a redshirt sophomore without SEC minutes compared to senior Barford...maybe not.  But danged good.  I'm not holding out any hope for him, or planning to get upbeat about him in the lineup this fall, but such a player would be a huge addition to a roster that's struggled at times to find versatile wings that can score and defend at a high level.

There is an awful lot of time between now and next year.  I wish Garland nothing but the best in his continuing efforts to be cleared. It would be a welcome balm for a troubled program.
I'm not going to count Garland in until I see it come from the coach's mouth. He'd certainly be a welcome addition as an athletic off ball wing. I think some expectations are getting to high, but he'd be a big add on the court.

If Arkansas doesn't clear him, I'm not sure any other school will take the risk. That makes me sad for him, not the program.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Hogmatic on March 22, 2019, 08:39:37 am
I'm not selling my Jalen Harris stock. He is an extreme athlete and plays confidently. Next year when the team will have to play smaller and faster and Joe and Jones take steps forward as perimeter scorers, I think Jalen Harris will be able to get to the rim much easier and make an easier impact on games.

I'm still waiting and seeing on what happens with the frontcourt, but next year's backcourt will be the deepest and perhaps best we've had in a while. Just got to keep most of them in house and add a swingman to help at the 3.

Harris gets beat up on here too much.  I think he and Desi are a good rotation.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: razorback1829 on March 22, 2019, 08:42:37 am
Relieved to hear Mason Jones has decided to stay and I'm awfully glad that Chaney could be talked into going to Providence.

But it's still concerning that one of your top scorers was even considering leaving.
And a core piece of the team is probably still on the fence about staying.

Who knows if he was considering or not... not like everything that comes out of the media or HVís mouth is gospel.. it usually never is.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: The_Iceman on March 22, 2019, 08:44:14 am
Harris gets beat up on here too much.  I think he and Desi are a good rotation.

It's more of Sills surpassing Harris than Harris being a bad player. Harris may need to cut his minutes so that he isn't over-exposed. If he can get his 3pt% to around 30%, that would help Harris out a lot.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Hogmatic on March 22, 2019, 08:44:52 am
It's more of Sills surpassing Harris than Harris being a bad player. Harris may need to cut his minutes so that he isn't over-exposed. If he can get his 3pt% to around 30%, that would help Harris out a lot.

Very good analogy
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: yraciv on March 22, 2019, 08:53:50 am
I don't know if Khalil will eve be cleared, but I'm under the impession he is a big time player based on reports I've heard and the fact we've waited this long for him. 
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: hoglady on March 22, 2019, 09:19:05 am
Who knows if he was considering or not... not like everything that comes out of the media or HVís mouth is gospel.. it usually never is.

It was stated that Jones had posted on Instagram that he was transferring to Memphis.
And he's now posted that he's coming back.

So I was relieved to see he changed his mind and decided to stay.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Wooderson on March 22, 2019, 09:19:58 am
Has it ever been disclosed what condition Garland has.  I know in the past he retweeted stories about Isaiah Austin and Marfan syndrome.  Makes sense because folks with Marfan syndrome can do physical conditioning, but are kept from physical contact. 

I don't know if this is what he has, but it's interesting reading Isaiah Austin articles that conclusive diagnosis is often debatable and that is why Austin found a doctor willing to sign off on him and he is playing in China.   
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: hogsanity on March 22, 2019, 09:21:16 am
I'm not going to count Garland in until I see it come from the coach's mouth. He'd certainly be a welcome addition as an athletic off ball wing. I think some expectations are getting to high, but he'd be a big add on the court.

If Arkansas doesn't clear him, I'm not sure any other school will take the risk. That makes me sad for him, not the program.

Not that it cant happen, but what in his condition is going to change to get him cleared after missing 2 full seasons. It does not sound like an issue that rectifies itself.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: kid squealer on March 22, 2019, 09:29:10 am
Their SEC per 40 numbers say that Sills may need to play over Harris, especially considering potential for growth over the offseason.

SEC Per 40 Stats:
Harris - 9.0 pts, 6.1 asts, 3.6 rebs, 0.9 stls.
Sills - 12.2 pts, 3.7 asts, 2.7 rebs, 1.2 stls.

SEC Efficiency Stats:
Harris - 40% 2pt, 11% 3pt, 61% ft.
Sills - 35% 2pt, 47% 3pt, 70% ft.
what about turnover numbers?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 09:35:04 am
Harris gets beat up on here too much.  I think he and Desi are a good rotation.

True but I think Hill will be/is better than both.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: The_Iceman on March 22, 2019, 09:38:24 am
what about turnover numbers?

Desi has 3.3 per 40. Harris had 2.7 per 40.

Remember, Harris is already 22 years old.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Smithian on March 22, 2019, 09:39:33 am
Not that it cant happen, but what in his condition is going to change to get him cleared after missing 2 full seasons. It does not sound like an issue that rectifies itself.
I'm not a doctor, I don't know.

But if he gets a clearance, after two years out of basketball it will take him some time to get back up to game speed.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: pigzwillrise on March 22, 2019, 10:01:47 am
I don't know if Khalil will eve be cleared, but I'm under the impession he is a big time player based on reports I've heard and the fact we've waited this long for him.
Iíd love to have him because I think we need another wing that finishes at the rim. I donít think Garland is a dominating player or a lethal scorer but I know he is smooth. I picture him to be like Mason Jones except more athletic, much better ball handler, a little quicker, and finishes well at the rim.  He is smooth but not overly quick.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: RaisinHog on March 22, 2019, 10:06:26 am
True but I think Hill will be/is better than both.

Hill should bring the ball handling skills of Harris with a serviceable shot ... Of course he is 4 inches shorter than Harris .. but much like Harris he isn't gonna go get you 15 pts most night .. he is a distributor .. he doesnt even score alot in highschool and aau when he most certainly could if he wanted to.

Ahh after watching some more recent highlights he is a little Tremont Waters esque he may bring more scoring to the table than I had thought
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: scorekeeper on March 22, 2019, 10:16:02 am
If Garland was to get cleared what would his classification be?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Porked Tongue on March 22, 2019, 10:18:48 am
I wouldn't bet every dollar I had that Jones is here next year..  It's very likely, but not "put the house" on it kind of thing.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: redleg on March 22, 2019, 10:25:21 am
I hope Garland gets cleared to play, but if he isn't cleared by Game 1 next season, it might be prudent to put him on medical hardship and give his scholarship to another recruit that can play and help the team. It's too bad. He was an excellent high school baller.

Hey Kevin McPherson!!!!!!!......... ???

Who is the other player that still might transfer? Hope it's not Chaney or Henderson.
Will Mike Anderson start going with big men that can run and not get tired, to keep up the fast pace we saw vs Providence?
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: King Kong on March 22, 2019, 11:01:40 am
If Garland was to get cleared what would his classification be?

RS Sophomore. But he would be eligible for 6th season. So he could still have 4 years of eligibility left.

Starting next season
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 11:24:45 am
Hill should bring the ball handling skills of Harris with a serviceable shot ... Of course he is 4 inches shorter than Harris .. but much like Harris he isn't gonna go get you 15 pts most night .. he is a distributor .. he doesnt even score alot in highschool and aau when he most certainly could if he wanted to.

Ahh after watching some more recent highlights he is a little Tremont Waters esque he may bring more scoring to the table than I had thought

A Hill, Harris, Sills  rotation would be tough IF Harris and Sills really work on their outside shot. The way Chaney runs the floor along with the other returnees (If we don't add any bigs) IF we can get a rebound nobody beats us down the court! LOL!
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: razorback1829 on March 22, 2019, 11:31:10 am
A Hill, Harris, Sills  rotation would be tough IF Harris and Sills really work on their outside shot. The way Chaney runs the floor along with the other returnees (If we don't add any bigs) IF we can get a rebound nobody beats us down the court! LOL!

Lol Sills is shooting around 40% from 3 for the season.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: RaisinHog on March 22, 2019, 11:37:14 am
A Hill, Harris, Sills  rotation would be tough IF Harris and Sills really work on their outside shot. The way Chaney runs the floor along with the other returnees (If we don't add any bigs) IF we can get a rebound nobody beats us down the court! LOL!

Sills shoots good enough too get minutes at the 2 as well so that helps in your minutes
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: ShadowHawg on March 22, 2019, 11:37:56 am
Lol Sills is shooting around 40% from 3 for the season.

He shoots at 45.6% from 3 on the season.

He is 16 of his last 22 from 3, since being inserted into the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: razorback1829 on March 22, 2019, 11:39:35 am
He shoots at 45.6% from 3 on the season.

He is 16 of his last 22 from 3, since being inserted into the starting lineup.

Heís getting to the point where if you give him some space, heís gonna knock it down. Huge development going forward. Guards will be salty next year.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: jgphillips3 on March 22, 2019, 01:42:46 pm
If Garland happened to get cleared and you had Justice Hill at the point, Joe at the two, Jones at the three, Garland at the four and Chaney at the five, we would be small in the lane but long and tall on the perimeter and explosive at times.  That is a team that could make a Sweet Sixteen type run.  Probably couldnít go too far without a legitimate five but they would be fun to watch and every one of them would be a threat to score even though Hill is more of a distributor. 
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 22, 2019, 01:58:35 pm
If Garland happened to get cleared and you had Justice Hill at the point, Joe at the two, Jones at the three, Garland at the four and Chaney at the five, we would be small in the lane but long and tall on the perimeter and explosive at times.  That is a team that could make a Sweet Sixteen type run.  Probably couldnít go too far without a legitimate five but they would be fun to watch and every one of them would be a threat to score even though Hill is more of a distributor.
And a freaking smoking hot Desi Sills on the bench, and if Gabe and Jalen can get anymore consistent on their shot thatís a pretty good bench
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 02:01:52 pm
Didn't mean to imply Sills was not a good shooter he has really come on the last part of the season. I do think the jury is still out if he can play the 2. Plus he's a lefty (I don't trust a lefty shooting 3's...I know James Harden  ;) ). Besides he still struggles from inside the 3 and needs to improve but his other contribution is he plays very hard and with toughness that I hope will rub off on the others. 
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: ErieHog on March 22, 2019, 02:02:51 pm
And a freaking smoking hot Desi Sills on the bench, and if Gabe and Jalen can get anymore consistent on their shot thatís a pretty good bench

Harris will be our starting PG.   
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Smithian on March 22, 2019, 02:08:16 pm
Harris will be our starting PG.   
The greatest fan trope ever is, "Bring in the freshman and to the bench with these current bums!"
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 02:09:26 pm
Harris will be our starting PG.

I don't know about that..if he continues to turn the ball over and poor shooting from the outside next year we have options. That bench is a GREAT teacher!
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on March 22, 2019, 02:22:29 pm
Harris will be our starting PG.   

While I think Harris will be better just from maturation and a year of playing with these guys after sitting out a year, does the addition of Hill make Harris better/more accountable.  Example with the emergence of Desi it seems like Mike has been more comfortable cutting Harris's minutes a bit and it seems Harris has been more productive.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: Kevin McPherson on March 22, 2019, 02:26:55 pm
Heís getting to the point where if you give him some space, heís gonna knock it down. Huge development going forward. Guards will be salty next year.

That's the thing, if this guard corps sticks together -- and I've said this more than once going back to before the start of the season -- collectively it shapes up to be the best of CMA's run at Arkansas.

* Isaiah Joe is an All SEC guard, likely a future pro. His maturity coming in was off the charts, and he's good at both ends of the floor in so many ways. Go back to the LSU game on the road, you could really start to see his all-around offensive game start to break through.

* Mason Jones is a big, solid 6-5 wing with a high floor IQ and an alpha set! Sometimes tries to do too much (i.e. hero ball), but experience and maturity hopefully prevail for a player I view as having fringe all-league potential. Seems as though he's embracing the idea of having the starter's role without actually starting the game, but who knows if that holds.

* Desi Sills made this team better once he was instered with the starters. Based on his skills and strengths as a player right now, he looks more comfortbale to me playing off the ball -- as opposed to the 1 role he had with the second unit. His 3-point shooting efficiency has been off the charts in the last 6 games, and he's a plus-defender as well.

* Jalen Harris is "30% from 3" from being a fringe All SEC type of player ... that would be a big jump in efficiency, but guys like Ky Madden and Jaylen Barford both made considerable surges in 3-pt-% from one season to the next, so never say never.  For the most part lately, he's done a good job of resisting the open 3s (3-game win streak, he was money in decision-making) ... last 2 games, he's not taken care of the ball.

* Keyshawn Embery-Simpson ... injuries have dogged him going back to 2017, and I'm certain his shooting efficiency is a direct correlation to missing so much basketball ... another guy who can provide starter value in time, just wonder with several guys ahead of him who are freshman and sophomores if he'll stick around.

* Justice Hill ... reports from practice have been good. Some accounts stronger than others, but I was told his stop-and-go bursts were breaking down the Hogs' defenders and he was shooting well ... again, until we see it who knows ... tough on-ball defender, too.

Hogs still looking at guards and wings in the juco and grad transfer ranks as well. Arkansas could use a slasher with some bounce, and a veteran guard who can both facilitate and shoot would also be useful. Obviously, any additions to the backcourt likely signals a departure or two -- we'll see.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: azhog10 on March 22, 2019, 02:40:23 pm
I can live with losing KES. Heís not the explosive guard I thought he was.
Title: Re: Khalil Garland and Mason Jones ...
Post by: The_Iceman on March 22, 2019, 02:41:19 pm
That's the thing, if this guard corps sticks together -- and I've said this more than once going back to before the start of the season -- collectively it shapes up to be the best of CMA's run at Arkansas.

* Isaiah Joe is an All SEC guard, likely a future pro. His maturity coming in was off the charts, and he's good at both ends of the floor in so many ways. Go back to the LSU game on the road, you could really start to see his all-around offensive game start to break through.

* Mason Jones is a big, solid 6-5 wing with a high floor IQ and an alpha set! Sometimes tries to do too much (i.e. hero ball), but experience and maturity hopefully prevail for a player I view as having fringe all-league potential. Seems as though he's embracing the idea of having the starter's role without actually starting the game, but who knows if that holds.

* Desi Sills made this team better once he was instered with the starters. Based on his skills and strengths as a player right now, he looks more comfortbale to me playing off the ball -- as opposed to the 1 role he had with the second unit. His 3-point shooting efficiency has been off the charts in the last 6 games, and he's a plus-defender as well.

* Jalen Harris is "30% from 3" from being a fringe All SEC type of player ... that would be a big jump in efficiency, but guys like Ky Madden and Jaylen Barford both made considerable surges in 3-pt-% from one season to the next, so never say never.  For the most part lately, he's done a good job of resisting the open 3s (3-game win streak, he was money in decision-making) ... last 2 games, he's not taken care of the ball.

* Keyshawn Embery-Simpson ... injuries have dogged him going back to 2017, and I'm certain his shooting efficiency is a direct correlation to missing so much basketball ... another guy who can provide starter value in time, just wonder with several guys ahead of him who are freshman and sophomores if he'll stick around.

* Justice Hill ... reports from practice have been good. Some accounts stronger than others, but I was told his stop-and-go bursts were breaking down the Hogs' defenders and he was shooting well ... again, until we see it who knows ... tough on-ball defender, too.

Hogs still looking at guards and wings in the juco and grad transfer ranks as well. Arkansas could use a slasher with some bounce, and a veteran guard who can both facilitate and shoot would also be useful. Obviously, any additions to the backcourt likely signals a departure or two -- we'll see.

So, if KES does move on, could you see the backcourt shaping up like this:

Harris / Hill
Sills / Hamlet (or another JUCO wing)
Joe / Jones

I'd say that sets up to be a very strong backcourt, and COULD stay together for another two years (depending on transfers and going pro).
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Post by: razorback1829 on March 22, 2019, 02:41:39 pm
That's the thing, if this guard corps sticks together -- and I've said this more than once going back to before the start of the season -- collectively it shapes up to be the best of CMA's run at Arkansas.

* Isaiah Joe is an All SEC guard, likely a future pro. His maturity coming in was off the charts, and he's good at both ends of the floor in so many ways. Go back to the LSU game on the road, you could really start to see his all-around offensive game start to break through.

* Mason Jones is a big, solid 6-5 wing with a high floor IQ and an alpha set! Sometimes tries to do too much (i.e. hero ball), but experience and maturity hopefully prevail for a player I view as having fringe all-league potential. Seems as though he's embracing the idea of having the starter's role without actually starting the game, but who knows if that holds.

* Desi Sills made this team better once he was instered with the starters. Based on his skills and strengths as a player right now, he looks more comfortbale to me playing off the ball -- as opposed to the 1 role he had with the second unit. His 3-point shooting efficiency has been off the charts in the last 6 games, and he's a plus-defender as well.

* Jalen Harris is "30% from 3" from being a fringe All SEC type of player ... that would be a big jump in efficiency, but guys like Ky Madden and Jaylen Barford both made considerable surges in 3-pt-% from one season to the next, so never say never.  For the most part lately, he's done a good job of resisting the open 3s (3-game win streak, he was money in decision-making) ... last 2 games, he's not taken care of the ball.

* Keyshawn Embery-Simpson ... injuries have dogged him going back to 2017, and I'm certain his shooting efficiency is a direct correlation to missing so much basketball ... another guy who can provide starter value in time, just wonder with several guys ahead of him who are freshman and sophomores if he'll stick around.

* Justice Hill ... reports from practice have been good. Some accounts stronger than others, but I was told his stop-and-go bursts were breaking down the Hogs' defenders and he was shooting well ... again, until we see it who knows ... tough on-ball defender, too.

Hogs still looking at guards and wings in the juco and grad transfer ranks as well. Arkansas could use a slasher with some bounce, and a veteran guard who can both facilitate and shoot would also be useful. Obviously, any additions to the backcourt likely signals a departure or two -- we'll see.

Right on the money.
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Post by: hawginbigd1 on March 22, 2019, 02:43:02 pm
It's more of Sills surpassing Harris than Harris being a bad player. Harris may need to cut his minutes so that he isn't over-exposed. If he can get his 3pt% to around 30%, that would help Harris out a lot.
If Harris could do that the team would have been in the dance. Currently we have to have 4 scorers on the floor for him to be successful. If he could threaten anybody from outside he would automatically be twice the player he is. We have seen this story in differing degrees in the past with Reid, and Fortson.
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Post by: ErieHog on March 22, 2019, 02:58:03 pm
While I think Harris will be better just from maturation and a year of playing with these guys after sitting out a year, does the addition of Hill make Harris better/more accountable.  Example with the emergence of Desi it seems like Mike has been more comfortable cutting Harris's minutes a bit and it seems Harris has been more productive.

A productive KES is really the key to Harris playing less, IMO, even moreso than Sills or a freshman PG.

While the Ky Madden development track is what you want from Harris, the ability to play extended veteran minutes with minimizing turnovers, is what'll be big with Mike.

That's where Harris shone;  Arkansas had mediocre team turnover rates, but Harris himself was outstanding with the ball and keeping possession.    If you can get minutes out of KES that free up the ability for a Sills to play more point, for Mason to run with the second unit,  then you'll see more willingness to put Harris on the bench.
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Post by: Mike Irwin on March 22, 2019, 03:00:34 pm
Just a guess but what if he has been cleared but the coaches don't want it out there yet. Mason jumped the gun and now silence.

There would be nothing to stop him from playing Saturday. No he's never played in a college game but he's been working out with these guys for two years. It's not like he doesn't know Anderson's system and by all accounts, in practice he is their best guard.

There's also a rumor that Memphis will take him and play him. Supposedly they don't have the same rigid standards on heart related conditions that Arkansas has because of the Garrett Uekman case. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/7270932/arkansas-razorbacks-garrett-uekman-had-heart-condition-coroner-says

So what if Anderson made an issue out of this and Yurachek said okay, you can play him?

Again, just speculating.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 22, 2019, 03:12:13 pm
I think Garland is getting cleared, too many leaks.
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Post by: razorback1829 on March 22, 2019, 03:15:10 pm
Just a guess but what if he has been cleared but the coaches don't want it out there yet. Mason jumped the gun and now silence.

There would be nothing to stop him from playing Saturday. No he's never played in a college game but he's been working out with these guys for two years. It's not like he doesn't know Anderson's system and by all accounts, in practice he is their best guard.

There's also a rumor that Memphis will take him and play him. Supposedly they don't have the same rigid standards on heart related conditions that Arkansas has because of the Garrett Uekman case. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/7270932/arkansas-razorbacks-garrett-uekman-had-heart-condition-coroner-says

So what if Anderson made an issue out of this and Yurachek said okay, you can play him?

Again, just speculating.

Khalil hasnít taken place in even a practice scrimmage since heís been here with the team. Hard to say heís the best when he hasnít played in any official team setting.
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Post by: Mike Irwin on March 22, 2019, 03:19:03 pm
Khalil hasnít taken place in even a practice scrimmage since heís been here with the team. Hard to say heís the best when he hasnít played in any official team setting.
I've been told by someone close to the team and who watches a lot of their practices that the coaches say he is their best guard.
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Post by: The_Iceman on March 22, 2019, 03:21:07 pm
Khalil hasnít taken place in even a practice scrimmage since heís been here with the team. Hard to say heís the best when he hasnít played in any official team setting.

He was a Top 60 recruit, 6'5" guard with elite athleticism and driving ability. He shot also improved a lot before he got to campus, and has probably only gotten better since that's all he can do. Once in shape, Garland would be our best guard.
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Post by: The_Iceman on March 22, 2019, 03:21:54 pm
A productive KES is really the key to Harris playing less, IMO, even moreso than Sills or a freshman PG.

While the Ky Madden development track is what you want from Harris, the ability to play extended veteran minutes with minimizing turnovers, is what'll be big with Mike.

That's where Harris shone;  Arkansas had mediocre team turnover rates, but Harris himself was outstanding with the ball and keeping possession.    If you can get minutes out of KES that free up the ability for a Sills to play more point, for Mason to run with the second unit,  then you'll see more willingness to put Harris on the bench.

My argument to that is: Jalen Harris is 22 years old and already had a redshirt year on campus. Why should we think his shot will get any better?
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Post by: ShadowHawg on March 22, 2019, 03:25:21 pm
My argument to that is: Jalen Harris is 22 years old and already had a redshirt year on campus. Why should we think his shot will get any better?

Corey Beck. Exact same circumstances. Played one season at a JUCO. Sat out a season on campus of Arkansas. Didnt even make a three pointer his entire sophomore season. Became good enough to knock them down when no one would extend out to guard him in junior season.
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Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 03:26:32 pm
I know MA is paid the big bucks to make the tough decisions but this is one that would be TOUGH! Yes the doctors could clear him but if something happened...it's not like when athlete has an episode and no one knew there was a problem. Could be a head trip if the doctors were wrong and he plays.
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Post by: ErieHog on March 22, 2019, 03:27:03 pm
My argument to that is: Jalen Harris is 22 years old and already had a redshirt year on campus. Why should we think his shot will get any better?

If he improves even a little, and improves his shot selection, it should help volumes.  Heck, even just better shot selection would be an important improvement.      We're not asking him to re-invent the wheel.  Just limit the bad looks.
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Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 03:36:48 pm
If he improves even a little, and improves his shot selection, it should help volumes.  Heck, even just better shot selection would be an important improvement.      We're not asking him to re-invent the wheel.  Just limit the bad looks.

Exactly no one expects him become Joe and make 100 3's. Not being funny but how could he get worse? I mean if the kid over the summer shoots 500-700 shots a day eventually they'll start falling in a game!
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Post by: 26.2Hog on March 22, 2019, 03:39:01 pm
Corey Beck. Exact same circumstances. Played one season at a JUCO. Sat out a season on campus of Arkansas. Didnt even make a three pointer his entire sophomore season. Became good enough to knock them down when no one would extend out to guard him in junior season.

When Beck was a sophomore he only took 2 shots from behind the line.

Harris took 66 and hit 12%.  That's more 3 pointers than Beck took his entire career as a Hog.

But Corey did hit 46% and 49% his junior and senior years.  Harris needs to shoot less and make more.
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Post by: Mike Irwin on March 22, 2019, 03:39:08 pm
I know MA is paid the big bucks to make the tough decisions but this is one that would be TOUGH! Yes the doctors could clear him but if something happened...it's not like when athlete has an episode and no one knew there was a problem. Could be a head trip if the doctors were wrong and he plays.
Well again, I'm speculating. I have no idea why Mason Jones put up and then deleted that tweet. However, I have been told that if Arkansas does not clear Garland there are other schools that will take him and play him, including Memphis.

If I'm Mike Anderson, with the kind of pressure he's under, it would be hard to sit there and watch maybe my best player trot off to another school. Especially a school I recruit against.
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Post by: Pig in the Pokey on March 22, 2019, 03:44:10 pm
I think Garland is getting cleared, too many leaks.
Ive said it for two years and really want it for the kid, AND for the Hogs. Kid is the team's best player, period.
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on March 22, 2019, 03:50:33 pm
Well again, I'm speculating. I have no idea why Mason Jones put up and then deleted that tweet. However, I have been told that if Arkansas does not clear Garland there are other schools that will take him and play him, including Memphis.

If I'm Mike Anderson, with the kind of pressure he's under, it would be hard to sit there and watch maybe my best player trot off to another school. Especially a school I recruit against.
Thanks Penny.  Mike can get motivated with a little pressure apparently. 
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Post by: Hogeyeblind on March 22, 2019, 03:51:09 pm
I've been told by someone close to the team and who watches a lot of their practices that the coaches say he is their best guard.

So either he's never practiced a lick in 2 years or he's our best player.  Quite a contrast.
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Post by: ShadowHawg on March 22, 2019, 03:53:24 pm
When Beck was a sophomore he only took 2 shots from behind the line.

Harris took 66 and hit 12%.  That's more 3 pointers than Beck took his entire career as a Hog.

But Corey did hit 46% and 49% his junior and senior years.  Harris needs to shoot less and make more.

Beck didn't shoot because he couldn't. He developed his shot and when to take it.

The post that was in response was saying Harris' age would keep him from developing his shot and his decision making with regard to when to shoot.

Same age. Same bad shot.
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Post by: ShadowHawg on March 22, 2019, 03:57:05 pm
Thanks Penny.  Mike can get motivated with a little pressure apparently.

???

Garland not playing the last two seasons has been a huge deal that complainers turn a blind eye to. If the school is being draconian in comparison to other HM schools about his condition, you have a new AD and the heat has been turned up, you would argue for a change also.

That's the school's fault, not the coach.
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Post by: razorback1829 on March 22, 2019, 03:57:47 pm
My argument to that is: Jalen Harris is 22 years old and already had a redshirt year on campus. Why should we think his shot will get any better?

Whatís the ceiling on improving any part your game? We see guys develop different skills every year as a pro. While heís not a pro, a jump shot is confidence and repetition. He has to be in the gym year round and not just the offseason and then after practice during the season.
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Post by: razorback1829 on March 22, 2019, 03:58:54 pm
Thanks Penny.  Mike can get motivated with a little pressure apparently.

Out of MAís hands. This is a school thing.
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Post by: 26.2Hog on March 22, 2019, 04:01:58 pm
Beck didn't shoot because he couldn't. He developed his shot and when to take it.

The post that was in response was saying Harris' age would keep him from developing his shot and his decision making with regard to when to shoot.

Same age. Same bad shot.

I guess we'll find out if Harris can match Beck's 3 point shooting the next two years. One can hope.
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Post by: ShadowHawg on March 22, 2019, 04:04:51 pm
I guess we'll find out if Harris can match Beck's 3 point shooting the next two years. One can hope.

I am not saying he will. I am saying there is still opportunity for it to happen and the proof is Corey Beck.
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Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 04:11:11 pm
Well again, I'm speculating. I have no idea why Mason Jones put up and then deleted that tweet. However, I have been told that if Arkansas does not clear Garland there are other schools that will take him and play him, including Memphis.

If I'm Mike Anderson, with the kind of pressure he's under, it would be hard to sit there and watch maybe my best player trot off to another school. Especially a school I recruit against.

I get that but MA has his faults but he is close to these kids. It would be hard on him to be around a kid  2-3 years spending a lot time with him and then something happens because he decided to play him. But if other schools have made it known they would play him then Jones must have been told that the doctors were going to clear Garland!
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Post by: ErieHog on March 22, 2019, 04:15:08 pm
I guess we'll find out if Harris can match Beck's 3 point shooting the next two years. One can hope.

If Harris hit 45% of his 3s, we'd be contending for an SEC title.
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Post by: mbgrulz on March 22, 2019, 04:30:58 pm
I hope Garland gets cleared, and yes, heís the most talented guard on campus. Heíd change our whole outlook.

The whole thing about other schools willing to play him, but UA not doesnít make sense. If youíre KG, you donít waste half of your college eligibility on a school that wonít clear you when you could go to another perfectly good school that would. If thatís the case, he should have been long gone by now.

As for him being rusty, Iím sure heíd need time to get himself into peak condition. It is my understanding that he practices up to the point of contact play and plays pickup all the time on his own. 
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Post by: zebradynasty on March 22, 2019, 04:35:32 pm
I hope Garland gets cleared, and yes, heís the most talented guard on campus. Heíd change our whole outlook.

The whole thing about other schools willing to play him, but UA not doesnít make sense. If youíre KG, you donít waste half of your college eligibility on a school that wonít clear you when you could go to another perfectly good school that would. If thatís the case, he should have been long gone by now.

As for him being rusty, Iím sure heíd need time to get himself into peak condition. It is my understanding that he practices up to the point of contact play and plays pickup all the time on his own.

Doctors may have just cleared him. I was always under the impression UA would let him play if the doctors Ok'd it.
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Post by: ErieHog on March 22, 2019, 04:38:04 pm
I hope Garland gets cleared, and yes, heís the most talented guard on campus. Heíd change our whole outlook.

The whole thing about other schools willing to play him, but UA not doesnít make sense. If youíre KG, you donít waste half of your college eligibility on a school that wonít clear you when you could go to another perfectly good school that would. If thatís the case, he should have been long gone by now.

As for him being rusty, Iím sure heíd need time to get himself into peak condition. It is my understanding that he practices up to the point of contact play and plays pickup all the time on his own. 

Garland is a loyal kid, who has always held out hope he would be cleared.  And it does make sense that the U of A is being as cautious as possible, given the history of the program.   Its going to have the highest hurdle in place to clear.
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Post by: The_Iceman on March 22, 2019, 04:54:11 pm
Garland is a loyal kid, who has always held out hope he would be cleared.  And it does make sense that the U of A is being as cautious as possible, given the history of the program.   Its going to have the highest hurdle in place to clear.

I never thought I'd see the day where Garland was in a Hog uniform. One of the best wings we've ever signed. I compared in to Sonny Weems, or a taller Barford. This kid would have made a difference this year and last. I hope this comes true.
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Post by: makiavelli on March 22, 2019, 05:23:01 pm
So say Garland gets cleared, he has 3 years to play 3 ?
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Post by: Hawg Red on March 22, 2019, 05:24:35 pm
So say Garland gets cleared, he has 3 years to play 3 ?

Could potentially get a 6th year if he wanted, but I don't think he want to be entering the pro ranks at 24ish years old.
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Post by: Smithian on March 22, 2019, 06:03:39 pm
I'm never going to get mad at the program for being overly cautious with a player's medical concerns. Especially after Garrett Uekman.
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Post by: jbcarol on March 23, 2019, 02:55:47 pm
I'm never going to get mad at the program for being overly cautious with a player's medical concerns. Especially after Garrett Uekman.

Absolutely.

Say what you will about Rick Pitino but when he gave up the 1997 NCAA title even though Derek Anderson was cleared on his ACL, it said something about his priorities.

Later actions also spoke about his priorities but he put his realized multi-million dollar pro career over an NCAA Title.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 24, 2019, 04:14:32 pm
Kevin can you tell us the position of the 1 player that is likely to stay and the other one that is likely to go?
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Post by: Big Nasty 34 on March 24, 2019, 05:54:06 pm
When Beck was a sophomore he only took 2 shots from behind the line.

Harris took 66 and hit 12%.  That's more 3 pointers than Beck took his entire career as a Hog.

But Corey did hit 46% and 49% his junior and senior years.  Harris needs to shoot less and make more.

Beck had a couple more scoring options than Harris lol.