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Title: All Things Kelly Bryant MERGED ó No New Threads
Post by: jbcarol on September 26, 2018, 10:00:58 pm
https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/09/after_clemsons_kelly_bryant_tr.html
Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on September 30, 2018, 10:52:01 am
Trevor Ferrell
‏@Palmetto_Bowl

Looking ahead I think theyíre 5 very viable transfer options for Kelly Bryant:
1. Arkansas
2. West Virginia
3. Auburn
4. LSU
5. Tennessee

7:35 AM - 26 Sep 2018 (https://twitter.com/Palmetto_Bowl/status/1044958658579378177)
Title: All Things Kelly Bryant **Merged** No New Threads!!
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 03, 2018, 10:12:15 pm
Update

https://www.nwahomepage.com/pig-trail-nation/hog-recruiting/arkansas-to-get-official-visit-from-former-clemson-quarterback/1517078910
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sickboy on October 03, 2018, 11:02:14 pm
Think it made it into the stickied thread at the top, but yeah... he's free diving now and the sharks are in the water.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Tarheelhawg on October 03, 2018, 11:05:55 pm
It is pure speculation at this point. However, there is mounting evidence that Arkansas commands serious consideration by Kelly Bryant for his next destination.   Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigs in Zen on October 04, 2018, 01:36:57 am
Not sure if this one was posted

https://twitter.com/rivalswoody/status/1047275784656904192?s=21

Wow... There was serious stupidity in that thread about KJ. Do people not get that he will be a raw talent not likely ready for the SEC West as as a true freshmen and could thrive under the mentorship of Bryant- IF -he were to come to Arkansas? Is it that hard to figure out?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Karma on October 04, 2018, 07:03:37 am
Wow... There was serious stupidity in that thread about KJ. Do people not get that he will be a raw talent not likely ready for the SEC West as as a true freshmen and could thrive under the mentorship of Bryant- IF -he were to come to Arkansas? Is it that hard to figure out?
We do it again and again. The savior QB is always the HS commit. Weíve done it with Peavey, Storey, Noland, etc.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 04, 2018, 07:30:27 am
It is pure speculation at this point. However, there is mounting evidence that Arkansas commands serious consideration by Kelly Bryant for his next destination.   Go Hogs!


Ummm...what evidence exactly?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Kig on October 04, 2018, 07:44:57 am

Ummm...what evidence exactly?

Rumor mill run rampant...random fan on the Twitter makes some obscure tie to Morris and viola'... lock.

Wish the kid would come here, just can't imagine why he would. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: secneahog on October 04, 2018, 08:11:29 am
Would be amazing to pick up KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 04, 2018, 08:21:04 am
Get real people. You have one year left to play to show off your skills to the NFL. Do you go to a team in the toughest conference that won 3 games the prior year, that is completely rebuilding the O-line and playing loads of young players at WR? Of course not. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: IronMountainHog on October 04, 2018, 08:26:55 am
Get real people. You have one year left to play to show off your skills to the NFL. Do you go to a team in the toughest conference that won 3 games the prior year, that is completely rebuilding the O-line and playing loads of young players at WR? Of course not. 
This kid wonít be going to the NFL, so thatís not a problem. Geez, he lost his job to a frickin FRESHMAN. He also showed his leadership skills by quitting mid season. That being said, I hope we get him lol.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Redhogs on October 04, 2018, 08:27:31 am
Get real people. You have one year left to play to show off your skills to the NFL. Do you go to a team in the toughest conference that won 3 games the prior year, that is completely rebuilding the O-line and playing loads of young players at WR? Of course not.
That's the way I was thinking...maybe we are wrong though...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: longtimeHogfan on October 04, 2018, 08:35:49 am
I'm not sure there's NFL talent in Mr. Bryant.  Maybe he'd like to finish up his football playing days with a coach he's familiar and comfortable with and just enjoy his final year? 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 04, 2018, 08:42:39 am
Wow... There was serious stupidity in that thread about KJ. Do people not get that he will be a raw talent not likely ready for the SEC West as as a true freshmen and could thrive under the mentorship of Bryant- IF -he were to come to Arkansas? Is it that hard to figure out?

That guy is an idiot. He is going to die on that hill lol
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 04, 2018, 08:50:01 am
It is pure speculation at this point. However, there is mounting evidence that Arkansas commands serious consideration by Kelly Bryant for his next destination.   Go Hogs!
"pure speculation"./... that is incorrect.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Boarcephus on October 04, 2018, 08:56:08 am
This kid wonít be going to the NFL, so thatís not a problem. Geez, he lost his job to a frickin FRESHMAN. He also showed his leadership skills by quitting mid season. That being said, I hope we get him lol.

His quitting mid season is what makes me question if we really need him.  If he's not "The Man" will he have a negative impact in the locker room?  He may have been beaten out by a freshman but the freshman was the number 1 ranked freshman in the country.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 04, 2018, 09:08:11 am
Trey Knox and KJ have been talking, so I assume that KJ is on board with Trey Knox talking to Bryant.  KJ knows it is just one year and that he could learn from Bryant.  On a selfish note, I would like to RS while Bryant deals with the Oline and new WR's.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 04, 2018, 09:26:15 am
"pure speculation"./... that is incorrect.


Go on.....


What more is there than speculation and message board fodder?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: a0ashle on October 04, 2018, 09:43:22 am
Iíd take him, not even a flinch. loyalty in NCAA is a joke. Fans want it from the players, but will throw you out for the next stud recruit. Come on down KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 04, 2018, 09:47:57 am
Wow... There was serious stupidity in that thread about KJ. Do people not get that he will be a raw talent not likely ready for the SEC West as as a true freshmen and could thrive under the mentorship of Bryant- IF -he were to come to Arkansas? Is it that hard to figure out?

For long term success this would be an ideal situation, and I think most freshman QB's wouldn't mind it all and would actually value the experience of working with a 5th year championship level QB like KB.

You soak up that year, adjust to college, learn all you can.  Don't even have to waste a year of eligibility and by the time you are a RS freshman you are set to be the starter for 4 years if you don't go early.

People that think it would hurt our chances with KJ are nuts.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LRRandy on October 04, 2018, 09:49:55 am
I'm not sure there's NFL talent in Mr. Bryant.  Maybe he'd like to finish up his football playing days with a coach he's familiar and comfortable with and just enjoy his final year?
you mean like Dabo Swinney?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 04, 2018, 09:52:20 am
For long term success this would be an ideal situation, and I think most freshman QB's wouldn't mind it all and would actually value the experience of working with a 5th year championship level QB like KB.

You soak up that year, adjust to college, learn all you can.  Don't even have to waste a year of eligibility and by the time you are a RS freshman you are set to be the starter for 4 years if you don't go early.

People that think it would hurt our chances with KJ are nuts.

but but but..."he's coming here to compete for the starting job!"
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 04, 2018, 09:53:47 am
His quitting mid season is what makes me question if we really need him.  If he's not "The Man" will he have a negative impact in the locker room?  He may have been beaten out by a freshman but the freshman was the number 1 ranked freshman in the country.

Easy for us to say he quit. To me, it looks like he waited his turn and was never given his turn, so he left. Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: onebadrubi on October 04, 2018, 10:06:17 am
His quitting mid season is what makes me question if we really need him.  If he's not "The Man" will he have a negative impact in the locker room?  He may have been beaten out by a freshman but the freshman was the number 1 ranked freshman in the country.

While I agree with the if he quit is he cancer to a lockerromm idea, but with the new rules I actually see what he's doing, why he is doing it, and understand it.

He realized he wouldn't be the guy at Clemson.  He didn't want to waste his last year of eligibility to play the sport he loves on the bench.  I actually understand that when you are given the eligibility rules and hard cap by the NCAA.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on October 04, 2018, 10:14:53 am
Easy for us to say he quit. To me, it looks like he waited his turn and was never given his turn, so he left. Nothing wrong with that.
He got his turn... he just isnt the guy that can beat Alabama... not sure the freshman has any chance either..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sickboy on October 04, 2018, 10:36:26 am
Get real people. You have one year left to play to show off your skills to the NFL. Do you go to a team in the toughest conference that won 3 games the prior year, that is completely rebuilding the O-line and playing loads of young players at WR? Of course not. 

It's between us and Auburn. That's what I hear. Don't know how it'll shake out, but whatever Jared Stidham does at the end of this season will probably play a part. Supposedly he's on the fence if he's going to head to the NFL draft after this year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 04, 2018, 11:14:08 am
It's between us and Auburn. That's what I hear. Don't know how it'll shake out, but whatever Jared Stidham does at the end of this season will probably play a part. Supposedly he's on the fence if he's going to head to the NFL draft after this year.



You're a pretty level headed poster around here.  Where are you hearing this?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 04, 2018, 11:17:59 am
It's between us and Auburn. That's what I hear. Don't know how it'll shake out, but whatever Jared Stidham does at the end of this season will probably play a part. Supposedly he's on the fence if he's going to head to the NFL draft after this year.


I think Kelly Bryant would be a good fit for the Auburn offense and perhaps better than Jarrett Stidham, but it's very risky to go to Auburn and compete with a multiple year starter that knows the offense very well.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 04, 2018, 11:24:22 am
If I only have 1 season of eligibility I go to a school like Arkansas, UCLA, UNC, Colorado, FSU or NC State. Programs that have a huge QB need that run Tempo spreads and I could take to a bowl. Not programs that I would have to battle entrenched starters.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sickboy on October 04, 2018, 11:26:48 am

You're a pretty level headed poster around here.  Where are you hearing this?

Obviously, take everything as idle chatter, especially when it comes to these kids making decisions, but I hear Auburn/Arkansas on the Hog side from a few different sites with posters that are usually in the know. On the Auburn side, my buddy was a QB at Auburn and he's a donor now. He also hears Auburn/Arkansas from his friends.

So, I'm taking both sides hearing similar things as a good sign that it's not too far off base. Could totally be wrong, but that's just the chatter that's on both sides. Tends to be that when you see smoke from two different fan bases... there's at least a bit of fire. Who knows. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 04, 2018, 11:31:05 am
Anyone tracking flights out of the Clemson area? Who here is going to stakeout Powerhouse until KB shows up?  Lastly, someone needs to monitor his twitter and instagram feeds in the event he posts a pic of himself wearing a red tie for Christ's sake!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rzrbk4life on October 04, 2018, 11:32:49 am
Obviously, take everything as idle chatter, especially when it comes to these kids making decisions, but I hear Auburn/Arkansas on the Hog side from a few different sites with posters that are usually in the know. On the Auburn side, my buddy was a QB at Auburn and he's a donor now. He also hears Auburn/Arkansas from his friends.

So, I'm taking both sides hearing similar things as a good sign that it's not too far off base. Could totally be wrong, but that's just the chatter that's on both sides. Tends to be that when you see smoke from two different fan bases... there's at least a bit of fire. Who knows. 

Has gus ever coached up a qb from freshman to senior? I swear that guy lives off transfer qbís
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #hammerdown on October 04, 2018, 11:50:56 am
I don't have a clue if he is even interested but people on here claiming it would ruin him because of our current status as a team are way off base.

Our Oline will not be the same next year as it is this year.  They are bad I agree.  But they are better now than they were last year.

Literally every other position on the field is either getting better or is going to see an infusion of really high level talent.

If he comes here and we win a lot of games guess who will get the credit?  Yep, Kelly Bryant.  He will be the media darling.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on October 04, 2018, 11:52:20 am
Has gus ever coached up a qb from freshman to senior? I swear that guy lives off transfer qbís
Gus will be lucky to have a job come seasons end.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Busta_Nutt on October 04, 2018, 12:08:38 pm
Gus will be lucky to have a job come seasons end.

75% of his contract is guaranteed (almost $37MM) and 50% of that is due to him in full within 30 days of termination. He's not going anywhere this year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on October 04, 2018, 12:22:42 pm
75% of his contract is guaranteed (almost $37MM) and 50% of that is due to him in full within 30 days of termination. He's not going anywhere this year.
That's what everyone thought about Bret too.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Busta_Nutt on October 04, 2018, 12:26:19 pm
That's what everyone thought about Bret too.

If you can't see the difference here, then I can't help you.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on October 04, 2018, 12:32:48 pm
It's Auburn. They have a plan to get rid of him if it comes down to it. They had that figured out before he ever signed the contract. They've got dirt on the man and it'll come to light if need be.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Busta_Nutt on October 04, 2018, 12:47:06 pm
It's Auburn. They have a plan to get rid of him if it comes down to it. They had that figured out before he ever signed the contract. They've got dirt on the man and it'll come to light if need be.

So, you're telling me that Auburn gave Malzahn a 7-year extension worth $49MM (75% guaranteed), with knowledge of something that they could bring to light which would void the contract should they choose to fire him before the extension is up? And that this something would not put the program in any danger of self-imposed or NCAA sanctions? Sure.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on October 04, 2018, 12:50:21 pm
They weasle their way outta the deal with cam newton. What makes you think they can't do the same with gus? They'll get it done one way or the other in Alabama. They don't raise chickens down there. They win or else...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 04, 2018, 12:51:27 pm
So, you're telling me that Auburn gave Malzahn a 7-year extension worth $49MM (75% guaranteed), with knowledge of something that they could bring to light which would void the contract should they choose to fire him before the extension is up? And that this something would not put the program in any danger of self-imposed or NCAA sanctions? Sure.

He said dirt.  Didn't say what kind.  Take NCAA dirt out of the equation.  That's not what brought Hugh Freeze down and Ole Miss gave him the heave ho without paying him a dime.  So the dirt could be something similar.  Not saying it is, and the poster may not know a thing, but just saying at AU anything is possible.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 04, 2018, 01:00:29 pm
It's Auburn. They have a plan to get rid of him if it comes down to it. They had that figured out before he ever signed the contract. They've got dirt on the man and it'll come to light if need be.
Gus will just say ditto. Look Auburn remember my recruitment of Cam Newton.I got names, dates, places.... Make the check out to my wife and Oh yea Thank you.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: FutureMan on October 04, 2018, 01:02:48 pm
The Kelly Bryant situation reminds me of Ryan Mallett in '09.  Meaning: second year head coach, has a lot of potential but doesn't quite have the players to do it, yet.  Get a stud transfer QB to jumpstart the transition, get better and better each year.  Hoping for a similar scenario.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 04, 2018, 01:05:51 pm
The Kelly Bryant situation reminds me of Ryan Mallett in '09.  Meaning: second year head coach, has a lot of potential but doesn't quite have the players to do it, yet.  Get a stud transfer QB to jumpstart the transition, get better and better each year.  Hoping for a similar scenario.


Mallett transferred here before Petrino coached a game.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Oklahawg on October 04, 2018, 01:10:11 pm
We do it again and again. The savior QB is always the HS commit. Weíve done it with Peavey, Storey, Noland, etc.

No kidding.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Oklahawg on October 04, 2018, 01:19:07 pm
Article in the Tulsa World this morning noted the difference between OU and Texas almost always begins with QB and ends before another position matters. OU has managed to find high-end QBs: Jason White, Sam Bradford, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray. Others in-between, too, who were superior to what UT put on the field.

The steps seem easy but are ridiculously challenging:
1. ID a potential QB with promise, probably a HS guy so you can develop them yourself as much as possible
2. get them to commit early so they can be a focal point of your recruiting effort
3. hope to god that either the QB transitions smoothly, or grows into college ball quickly
4. coach up the QB to maximize their skills
5. hope to god everyhing else around them is functional

Any of those five can go bacd. If a lower number goes bad the bigger numbers don't matter.

For UA,
1. we committed QBs then had coaching changes. Not sure the commits were optimized for the new coach but they were good about honoring the commitments
2. If your QB doesn't have some cachet, it is hard to use them to recruit to. Witness: Rafe Peavey
3. the transition is the biggest issue. Witness Storey's throwing motion glitch that took a long time to remove, and the ongoing late reads. The college game is still a touch "fast" for his mind. He is growing quickly, and we'll see if this can be overcome by year's end.
4. this is elite territory, not just normal player development. At UA, it amounts to overcoming deficiencies elsewhere because the QB is so good. See Texas Tech and Oklahoma State for examples.
5. Bigger picture of having a good team. Right now, it is hard to get Storey over the hump with lackluster OL play and the WR room needing some help.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RazorPiggie on October 04, 2018, 01:20:31 pm
The Kelly Bryant situation reminds me of Ryan Mallett in '09.  Meaning: second year head coach, has a lot of potential but doesn't quite have the players to do it, yet.  Get a stud transfer QB to jumpstart the transition, get better and better each year.  Hoping for a similar scenario.

Except we'd only get KB for 1 year instead of 2.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: redleg on October 04, 2018, 01:26:48 pm
It's pretty simple...Bryant will do one of these things, and no one on this board knows which choice he will decide upon!

1. Kelly Bryant will come to Arkansas and play one year for a coach who he is somewhat familiar with, in a system that he is very familiar with, and lead an offense of young, but talented, up-and-comers, and be the for-sure starter.
2. Kelly Bryant will go to a college not named Arkansas, where the offensive starters and team might be a little better, but he may not be the for-sure starter.
3. Kelly Bryant will enter his name in the 2019 NFL draft, or will sign with an agent.
4. Kelly Bryant will quit football.

Pick one. Your guess is as good as mine!  ???
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Busta_Nutt on October 04, 2018, 01:33:20 pm
He said dirt.  Didn't say what kind.  Take NCAA dirt out of the equation.  That's not what brought Hugh Freeze down and Ole Miss gave him the heave ho without paying him a dime.  So the dirt could be something similar.  Not saying it is, and the poster may not know a thing, but just saying at AU anything is possible.

What? Freeze resigned. So, no, he would not have gotten anything because the resignation. Also, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous violations, which then led to HDN suing the University because Freeze and Ole Miss claimed that Nutt was responsible for the violations. Nutt FOIA'd, ultimately leading to the Freeze scandal.

Either way, the NCAA would be involved, and if Auburn "has dirt" on Malzahn, there is little to no chance that the school would not be slapped with violations, too.

Bottom line is this: If Malzahn is fired, Auburn pays Malzahn what he is owed; or they don't due to violations that are uncovered by the NCAA.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 04, 2018, 02:17:10 pm
He said dirt.  Didn't say what kind.  Take NCAA dirt out of the equation.  That's not what brought Hugh Freeze down and Ole Miss gave him the heave ho without paying him a dime.  So the dirt could be something similar.  Not saying it is, and the poster may not know a thing, but just saying at AU anything is possible.

I see you attended the Trump Academy of Misinformation
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: farfromgroovins on October 04, 2018, 02:29:37 pm
75% of his contract is guaranteed (almost $37MM) and 50% of that is due to him in full within 30 days of termination. He's not going anywhere this year.

And Razorback nation tells Malzahn....you're welcome for that!

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LAHogfan123 on October 04, 2018, 02:34:24 pm
So, you're telling me that Auburn gave Malzahn a 7-year extension worth $49MM (75% guaranteed), with knowledge of something that they could bring to light which would void the contract should they choose to fire him before the extension is up? And that this something would not put the program in any danger of self-imposed or NCAA sanctions? Sure.


Lol, yeah, that's hilarious.  Gus is not going to be fired anytime soon I'll tell you that, and we have Arkansas to thank for that little golden nugget.  Even though Gus was never coming here, it made Auburn think they needed to lock up Gus into a huge multi-year agreement worth millions to remain their coach.  Gus simply is not worth it, but it's done now and I don't care what dirt they think they have, certain %'s of that contract is GUARANTEED, they have no choice but to honor it.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: farfromgroovins on October 04, 2018, 02:35:56 pm
Iíd take him, not even a flinch. loyalty in NCAA is a joke. Fans want it from the players, but will throw you out for the next stud recruit. Come on down KB.

Agreed.....

Don't blame the young men one bit for transferring in these situations.  They are in charge of their own career.  Don't leave it in the hands of someone with different goals/incentives than you.

But, I think this situation will change quick.  High dollar coaches and programs will throw a dang fit till the NCAA changes the rules so they can guarantee their highly recruited backups stay on the team and not bolt when they don't get PT.  Just wait, this rule wont' be in place long.  The rich want to retain all their riches.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: farfromgroovins on October 04, 2018, 02:38:20 pm

Lol, yeah, that's hilarious.  Gus is not going to be fired anytime soon I'll tell you that, and we have Arkansas to thank for that little golden nugget.  Even though Gus was never coming here, it made Auburn think they needed to lock up Gus into a huge multi-year agreement worth millions to remain their coach.  Gus simply is not worth it, but it's done now and I don't care what dirt they think they have, certain %'s of that contract is GUARANTEED, they have no choice but to honor it.

Yet we would have paid handsomely to get him.  Auburn got their NC with him and we would sell our souls to get one too......unless you have a Jeff Long in charge.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: okrazorback on October 04, 2018, 02:43:34 pm
What? Freeze resigned. So, no, he would not have gotten anything because the resignation. Also, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous violations, which then led to HDN suing the University because Freeze and Ole Miss claimed that Nutt was responsible for the violations. Nutt FOIA'd, ultimately leading to the Freeze scandal.

Either way, the NCAA would be involved, and if Auburn "has dirt" on Malzahn, there is little to no chance that the school would not be slapped with violations, too.

Bottom line is this: If Malzahn is fired, Auburn pays Malzahn what he is owed; or they don't due to violations that are uncovered by the NCAA.

So you get Bryant. We still don't have a coach that can compete with Saban.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Busta_Nutt on October 04, 2018, 02:47:12 pm
So you get Bryant. We still don't have a coach that can compete with Saban.

Few do.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 04, 2018, 02:48:56 pm
So you get Bryant. We still don't have a coach that can compete with Saban.

Neither does LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, A&M, Florida, UK, UGA, Mizzou, South Carolina, Tennessee, or Vandy.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 04, 2018, 02:51:23 pm
What? Freeze resigned. So, no, he would not have gotten anything because the resignation. Also, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous violations, which then led to HDN suing the University because Freeze and Ole Miss claimed that Nutt was responsible for the violations. Nutt FOIA'd, ultimately leading to the Freeze scandal.

Either way, the NCAA would be involved, and if Auburn "has dirt" on Malzahn, there is little to no chance that the school would not be slapped with violations, too.

Bottom line is this: If Malzahn is fired, Auburn pays Malzahn what he is owed; or they don't due to violations that are uncovered by the NCAA.

Freeze was given the option to resign or be fired for cause. AD said that when the presser happened
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on October 04, 2018, 02:55:59 pm
Yet we would have paid handsomely to get him.  Auburn got their NC with him and we would sell our souls to get one too......unless you have a Jeff Long in charge.

Wrong, one man was the big bidder for Gus and I never wanted him
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on October 04, 2018, 02:56:43 pm
Yet we would have paid handsomely to get him.  Auburn got their NC with him and we would sell our souls to get one too......unless you have a Jeff Long in charge.

Wrong, one man was the big bidder for Gus and I never wanted him
So you get Bryant. We still don't have a coach that can compete with Saban.
Who does?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 04, 2018, 03:28:43 pm
So you get Bryant. We still don't have a coach that can compete with Saban.
Okay.....and your point is exactly what?! Can't imagine anyone arguing or debating that particular fact. However, in the end it's about the HOGS continuing to upgrade talent and hopefully translating that into far more consistency and wins. Let's get to a point where we can (hopefully) regularly win at least 7-9 games a year before we take on the next major task of being able to hang (and hopefully beat) the Tide. BTW if you're going to take that tact except of UGa you must also apply that approach to virtually every other SEC and most non-SEC programs.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Sivad on October 04, 2018, 03:47:38 pm
And Razorback nation tells Malzahn....you're welcome for that!
Auburn is stuck with Gus and we are stuck with Diet Gus.
Both scenarios misengineered by our fab BOT.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Stu on October 04, 2018, 03:52:25 pm
Auburn is stuck with Gus and we are stuck with Diet Gus.
Both scenarios misengineered by our fab BOT.
Hmmm...lemme guess...you donít like Morris as our head coach.

Based on just about every other comment youíve made, I wonder how anyone else could have guessed?

🙄
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 247Hog on October 04, 2018, 04:15:08 pm
Auburn is stuck with Gus and we are stuck with Diet Gus.
Both scenarios misengineered by our fab BOT.

Good gawd. Haven't even made it half a season and have numb nuts trying to be cute with lame nicknames. Find a hobby.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 04, 2018, 04:16:21 pm
Good gawd. Haven't even made it half a season and have numb nuts trying to be cute with lame nicknames. Find a hobby.

Yeah that dude's shtick is just bad lol.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AugustaHog on October 04, 2018, 05:42:24 pm
So you get Bryant. We still don't have a coach that can compete with Saban.
Yeah, Nick Saban needs to stop being our measuring stick for coach quality.  With the train he's got rolling we're not going on some dominant streak of beating Bama.  What we need to be hopeful of is that we can start competing with LSU, TAMU, and AU.  Those are very doable things.  If we get to that point, then we can reasonably expect to play Bama much closer and give ourselves the chance to steal one from them every so often.  That's as good as it gets with Nick at the helm.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Jonbo on October 04, 2018, 05:46:54 pm
Iíd take him, not even a flinch. loyalty in NCAA is a joke. Fans want it from the players, but will throw you out for the next stud recruit. Come on down KB.
Yeah, I don't expect any particular loyalty from the players. I just don't think it's fair to. Heck. I'm not particularly loyal to them. There's not a one I hope the coach doesn't recruit a better player over.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Wildhog on October 04, 2018, 05:50:00 pm
Neither does LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, A&M, Florida, UK, UGA, Mizzou, South Carolina, Tennessee, or Vandy.

You think AU does?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 04, 2018, 05:56:46 pm
You think AU does?

Not really because no one consistently does but they have the only coach in conference that has beat Saban.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 04, 2018, 06:02:00 pm
Good gawd. Haven't even made it half a season and have numb nuts trying to be cute with lame nicknames. Find a hobby.
I've found that so often those who feel they must resort to such really have little, if anything, to say. Gee....guess what and cue right on time.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on October 04, 2018, 06:08:18 pm
Auburn is stuck with Gus and we are stuck with Diet Gus.
Both scenarios misengineered by our fab BOT.

Though early returns haven't looked good, the jury is still out on this for the Hogs. I'm impressed that he has got their heads turned around and that they are playing a full 60 minutes with effort. That's been on an unsteady line of ebb and flow for the last 2 years and at this point, it looks like Morris has that corrected.

Yeah, you have to block, run, pass, tackle, etc, but if you don't have your mind right, you aren't going to do any of those things consistently well. This to me, was the first step in the rebuild. Now train, develop and recruit and we'll see how far we can go.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 04, 2018, 07:19:58 pm
So you get Bryant. We still don't have a coach that can compete with Saban.
If that is the only thing that will make you happy, I recommend giving up football.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 04, 2018, 08:52:09 pm
Though early returns haven't looked good, the jury is still out on this for the Hogs. I'm impressed that he has got their heads turned around and that they are playing a full 60 minutes with effort. That's been on an unsteady line of ebb and flow for the last 2 years and at this point, it looks like Morris has that corrected.

Yeah, you have to block, run, pass, tackle, etc, but if you don't have your mind right, you aren't going to do any of those things consistently well. This to me, was the first step in the rebuild. Now train, develop and recruit and we'll see how far we can go.

Youíre wasting your time trying to speak logic to this jackass.... Sivad has relished and loved our losses. Just watch, if/when we start winning, he will disappear.


That would be a true blessing to all of us on this forum.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 04, 2018, 10:54:56 pm
He got his turn... he just isnt the guy that can beat Alabama... not sure the freshman has any chance either..

Nick Saban has never faced a Quarterback like Trevor Lawrence.

Lawrence threw for more yards and more touchdowns in Georgia than did Deshaun Watson.  Lawrence did that despite playing only one half in a lot of games.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 04, 2018, 11:51:58 pm
Nick Saban has never faced a Quarterback like Trevor Lawrence.

Lawrence threw for more yards and more touchdowns in Georgia than did Deshaun Watson.  Lawrence did that despite playing only one half in a lot of games.
Thatís just a silly statement. Saban has faced numerous elite QBs (NFL Pro Bowl, 1st Round Pick or Heisman):

Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Johnny Manzeil, Cam Newton, Kirk Cousins, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Stafford, Jason Campbell, Eli Manning, Jason White

And that isnít even listing all the QBs with All-American, All-Conference, Davey OíBrien Award, and other college accolades that go along with elite college careers.


Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 05, 2018, 12:37:00 am
Nick Saban has never faced a Quarterback like Trevor Lawrence.

Lawrence threw for more yards and more touchdowns in Georgia than did Deshaun Watson.  Lawrence did that despite playing only one half in a lot of games.

No, he's faced several that were MUCH better.  You have to have a picture of Brent Venables above your bed, and one of Dabo on the inside of your closet door.  You're smitten by Clemson.   :puke:   Hogs versus Clemson...who are you going to root for?  Tell the truth....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 05, 2018, 12:44:17 am
Thatís just a silly statement. Saban has faced numerous elite QBs (NFL Pro Bowl, 1st Round Pick or Heisman):

Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Johnny Manzeil, Cam Newton, Kirk Cousins, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Stafford, Jason Campbell, Eli Manning, Jason White

And that isnít even listing all the QBs with All-American, All-Conference, Davey OíBrien Award, and other college accolades that go along with elite college careers.

When Trevor Lawrence gets to peak level through some additional collegiate playing experience, no one will be able to defend him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MissippHog on October 05, 2018, 12:48:49 am
Nick Saban has never faced a Quarterback like Trevor Lawrence.

Lawrence threw for more yards and more touchdowns in Georgia than did Deshaun Watson.  Lawrence did that despite playing only one half in a lot of games.
Fair comparison?  Lawrence played 4A, Watson 6A.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dsf on October 05, 2018, 06:26:18 am
The Kelly Bryant situation reminds me of Ryan Mallett in '09.  Meaning: second year head coach, has a lot of potential but doesn't quite have the players to do it, yet.  Get a stud transfer QB to jumpstart the transition, get better and better each year.  Hoping for a similar scenario.

Sad so many of you want Bryant...he is a very poor passer...his 67% completion rate is almost entirely very short passes...he is a good runner, but can not read an option very well...he was successful because he was protected by a host of really good players...at Arkansas, he would have to be a star...and, that is not very probable.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MissippHog on October 05, 2018, 06:55:17 am
I don't know where he'll end up.  If Coach wants him and lands him, I'm good with that.  I've seen it mentioned several times here that Coach Morris recruited him to Clemson, so I looked up his 247 recruiting profile.  Which led me to look at the other dual threat QB's in that class.  Which led me to look at the other pro style QB's in the same class.  Anyways, you get the idea.

https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?PositionGroup=QB (https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?PositionGroup=QB)

Interesting list looking back through some of those names.  Some are now pro, some are just now starting to excel at the school they signed with, some have bounced around to different schools, some we haven't heard from.  Just shows the uncertain nature of recruiting. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DeltaBoy on October 05, 2018, 07:16:07 am
Bring him on!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Redhogs on October 05, 2018, 08:00:45 am
Though early returns haven't looked good, the jury is still out on this for the Hogs. I'm impressed that he has got their heads turned around and that they are playing a full 60 minutes with effort. That's been on an unsteady line of ebb and flow for the last 2 years and at this point, it looks like Morris has that corrected.

Yeah, you have to block, run, pass, tackle, etc, but if you don't have your mind right, you aren't going to do any of those things consistently well. This to me, was the first step in the rebuild. Now train, develop and recruit and we'll see how far we can go.
Pretty much the way I feel now...we will just have to see. Have never been his biggest fan, but the recent signs of improvement and the great recruiting class they appear to be putting together have caused me to pump the brakes, have a little patience, and see what he can do....don't really have a choice anyway....right?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 05, 2018, 08:30:30 am
Nick Saban has never faced a Quarterback like Trevor Lawrence.

Lawrence threw for more yards and more touchdowns in Georgia than did Deshaun Watson.  Lawrence did that despite playing only one half in a lot of games.

Good God.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on October 05, 2018, 08:32:17 am
Good God.

:)

Ain't he a hoot?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 05, 2018, 08:36:32 am
:)

Ain't he a hoot?

There are some robots on this board, man.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: carolinahogger on October 05, 2018, 08:39:23 am
He got his turn... he just isnt the guy that can beat Alabama... not sure the freshman has any chance either..

Tom Brady in his prime couldn't beat Alabama with this year's or next year's Razorbacks.

We are looking for the guy who can beat North Texas and Colorado State.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Busta_Nutt on October 05, 2018, 08:55:21 am
Nick Saban has never faced a Quarterback like Trevor Lawrence.

Lawrence threw for more yards and more touchdowns in Georgia than did Deshaun Watson.  Lawrence did that despite playing only one half in a lot of games.

Have you ever seen Office Space? You are to Clemson what Milton is to Initech.

Also, can you please update us on new products you've sold and/or newly visited Cracker Barrels recently?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 05, 2018, 09:30:11 am
Tom Brady in his prime couldn't beat Alabama with this year's or next year's Razorbacks.

We are looking for the guy who can beat North Texas and Colorado State.
Just a very quick reminder that while our QB play hasn't exactly been pro level, it's a TEAM game. I.E. those losses can't be totally attributed to the play of the signal-caller. He's only part, admittedly a very important one, of the entire picture. I'll also remind you that poor special teams play most certainly hasn't helped our results either. Please give it a rest.

BTW please PM me with your insightful knowledge/abilities as to NEXT YEAR'S results. As you apparently know exactly what's going to happen more than twelve months into the future, I could sure use to inside information on what the stock market/individual stocks are going to do. I'll make a killing and even share a portion of the proceeds with you. :) ;)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Swinelake on October 05, 2018, 09:36:41 am
Yet we would have paid handsomely to get him.  Auburn got their NC with him and we would sell our souls to get one too......unless you have a Jeff Long in charge.

Got it with him as OC. Head coach is a whole different animal. Mary Katherine has been fair at best in that role.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 05, 2018, 09:57:49 am
Nick Saban has never faced a Quarterback like Trevor Lawrence.

Lawrence threw for more yards and more touchdowns in Georgia than did Deshaun Watson.  Lawrence did that despite playing only one half in a lot of games.

Implying Trevor Lawrence is at or near the level of Junior Year Deshaun Watson is an impressive level of dense even by Hogville.net standards.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 05, 2018, 10:11:57 am
Implying Trevor Lawrence is at or near the level of Junior Year Deshaun Watson is an impressive level of dense even by Hogville.net standards.
Well one has to at least admit that the bar for the definition of "an impressive level of dense by Hogville.net standards" is constantly being lowered. Just when you think you've seen the ultimate in moronic/insipid posts and comments there's always another not too far behind. As such it shouldn't really amaze any of us any longer; however, it still does. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Leadbelly on October 05, 2018, 10:43:08 am
Neither does LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, A&M, Florida, UK, UGA, Mizzou, South Carolina, Tennessee, or Vandy.
+1
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: okrazorback on October 05, 2018, 10:49:16 am
If that is the only thing that will make you happy, I recommend giving up football.

Winning is the only thing that will make me. I don't intend to give up football. We may someday hire a coach that can do that without being fired. I did  not say we couldn't find a coach that could beat Saban, I just we don't have one. I have as good a right to my opinion as you do.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 05, 2018, 10:58:17 am
Winning is the only thing that will make me. I don't intend to give up football. We may someday hire a coach that can do that without being fired. I did  not say we couldn't find a coach that could beat Saban, I just we don't have one. I have as good a right to my opinion as you do.

I just Chad Morris.

Anyway.

After tomorrow, yeah you'll probably have definitive proof that in their one head-to-head matchup, Saban beat Morris.

But how can you say "we don't have a coach who can beat Saban" when they've never coached against each other? You don't know that.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: code red on October 05, 2018, 11:51:52 am
I as well would relish Bryant taking the snaps.  But.  I would imagine he will have his pick of programs.  And probably one that is winning, now.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: code red on October 05, 2018, 11:53:50 am
I just Chad Morris.

Anyway.

After tomorrow, yeah you'll probably have definitive proof that in their one head-to-head matchup, Saban beat Morris.

But how can you say "we don't have a coach who can beat Saban" when they've never coached against each other? You don't know that.
Um. Yeah.  We are 0-11 vs Saban?  Pretty good sample size.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Paul on October 05, 2018, 11:59:38 am
Sad so many of you want Bryant...he is a very poor passer...his 67% completion rate is almost entirely very short passes...he is a good runner, but can not read an option very well...he was successful because he was protected by a host of really good players...at Arkansas, he would have to be a star...and, that is not very probable.
Umm...I'll take my chances
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 05, 2018, 12:02:06 pm
Um. Yeah.  We are 0-11 vs Saban?  Pretty good sample size.
The Comprehensive List of SEC Head Coaches who have beaten Nick Saban at Alabama:
Gus Malzahn

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 05, 2018, 12:03:17 pm
Sad so many of you want Bryant...he is a very poor passer...his 67% completion rate is almost entirely very short passes...he is a good runner, but can not read an option very well...he was successful because he was protected by a host of really good players...at Arkansas, he would have to be a star...and, that is not very probable.

Go watch his highlight video on Youtube and you'll realize he is head and shoulders above anything we can suit up at QB currently. This is not up for debate.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 05, 2018, 12:04:54 pm
Um. Yeah.  We are 0-11 vs Saban?  Pretty good sample size.

Woosh. My God, woosh.

What's Morris' record against Saban?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 05, 2018, 12:11:25 pm
Um. Yeah.  We are 0-11 vs Saban?  Pretty good sample size.

Actually we beat him in the Miracle on Markham. He simply was at a different school.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on October 05, 2018, 12:32:21 pm
The Comprehensive List of SEC Head Coaches who have beaten Nick Saban at Alabama:
Gus Malzahn

I know one whose beaten him twice and could be brought in immediately. Not to replace Morris but as an assistant. Give him what ever title you want. OC, assistant OC, assistant HC, assistant TO the HC, special assistant so we can possibly have a chance to compete with Bama, or whatever else you wanna call him. Just sayin there's a really cold (see what I did there) brother out there just waiting for a second chance.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Swinelake on October 05, 2018, 02:22:54 pm
The Comprehensive List of SEC Head Coaches who have beaten Nick Saban at Alabama:
Gus Malzahn

So? Bret owned Les Miles and Hugh Freeze. You gonna sit there and tell me that he's a better coach than either of them?

Alabama is Auburn's superbowl and Alabama has well documented motivation problems late in the season. That's why Saban is always harping on "rat poison"
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: zebradynasty on October 05, 2018, 02:37:17 pm
Sad so many of you want Bryant...he is a very poor passer...his 67% completion rate is almost entirely very short passes...he is a good runner, but can not read an option very well...he was successful because he was protected by a host of really good players...at Arkansas, he would have to be a star...and, that is not very probable.

If you watched the Houston vs Tulsa game last night I think Houston's offense is where Morris is headed. In that type of offense, if a truly dual threat QB can complete 67% of his passes....you'll win a lot games.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 05, 2018, 03:39:58 pm
So? Bret owned Les Miles and Hugh Freeze. You gonna sit there and tell me that he's a better coach than either of them?

Alabama is Auburn's superbowl and Alabama has well documented motivation problems late in the season. That's why Saban is always harping on "rat poison"
My point is that the definition of a good or even great coach does not necessarily include being able to beat Nick Saban and the machine he has built at Alabama because he has a winning record against almost every coach he has ever faced and the vast majority of coaches he has faced at Alabama have an 0-fer record against him.

I agree that part of the equation for Gus having won is the rivalry game effect. I don't even particularly like Gus.

But Alabama has only lost 13 games to 10 different coaches since he got them up and running in 2008: Sumlin, Freeze, Swinney, Meyer, Malzahn, Spurrier, Miles, Chizik (sorta), Whittingham, Stoops.

Of those, the only coaches that have beaten him without top-10 recruiting are Spurrier and Whittingham (and even Spurrier had taken USCe's recruiting up a couple notches to do so).

That's it.

Florida just gave Dan Mullen a ton of money to go coach the Gators and he is 0-9 against Nick Saban.

We don't know if Chad Morris will ever be able to build a team here that beats Alabama. Certainly that has to be the goal.

But it will take more than just coaching. It will require substantially better recruiting. It will require time to build the needed depth. And it will probably require no small amount of luck.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 05, 2018, 03:41:57 pm
I know one whose beaten him twice and could be brought in immediately. Not to replace Morris but as an assistant. Give him what ever title you want. OC, assistant OC, assistant HC, assistant TO the HC, special assistant so we can possibly have a chance to compete with Bama, or whatever else you wanna call him. Just sayin there's a really cold (see what I did there) brother out there just waiting for a second chance.
The good part about that is that we could pay him with untraceable Visa gift cards and a free Boost mobile plan.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on October 05, 2018, 04:25:28 pm
The good part about that is that we could pay him with untraceable Visa gift cards and a free Boost mobile plan.

Whatever works.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Arkansas Fan on October 05, 2018, 05:06:14 pm
So? Bret owned Les Miles and Hugh Freeze. You gonna sit there and tell me that he's a better coach than either of them?

Alabama is Auburn's superbowl and Alabama has well documented motivation problems late in the season. That's why Saban is always harping on "rat poison"

Alabama has motivation problems late in the season? You mean when they're a few wins away from winning a national title? Also, where is this well documented?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigcrazy on October 05, 2018, 06:47:27 pm
I thought this was a Bryant thread. Please stay on topic.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on October 05, 2018, 08:45:44 pm
I thought this was a Bryant thread. Please stay on topic.

This is page 3. You're lucky we're still talking about football lol.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Letsroll1200 on October 05, 2018, 11:18:58 pm
There is high level talent at Clemson and Bryant struggled in some areas. What will Bryant do at Arkansas that he couldn't do for Clemson?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on October 05, 2018, 11:42:03 pm
There is high level talent at Clemson and Bryant struggled in some areas. What will Bryant do at Arkansas that he couldn't do for Clemson?

Well seeing how Clemsons realistic goals are a NC and ours are more in the lane of 8 to 9 wins (not the end goal but what we should be shooting for next year) I would say he could do that for Arkansas.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Deep Shoat on October 06, 2018, 12:23:31 am
Winning is the only thing that will make me. I don't intend to give up football. We may someday hire a coach that can do that without being fired. I did  not say we couldn't find a coach that could beat Saban, I just we don't have one. I have as good a right to my opinion as you do.
Having ďthe right to an opinionĒ does not preclude said opinion from being absolute, pants-on-head, helmet wearing, window licking, asininely stupid.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigsknuckles on October 06, 2018, 12:29:20 am
I thought this was a Bryant thread. Please stay on topic.

OK...Gus was never coming here. Gruden was never coming here. AND... Bryant is never coming here. Move on.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on October 06, 2018, 04:28:29 am
OK...Gus was never coming here. Gruden was never coming here. AND... Bryant is never coming here. Move on.

Hater.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 06, 2018, 06:50:17 am
OK...Gus was never coming here. Gruden was never coming here. AND... Bryant is never coming here. Move on.

Yeah and sitting NFL HC would never leave for this job twice, Ryan Mallet isnít transferring, and we canít land a P5 HC that has won 3 Conference Championships.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigsknuckles on October 06, 2018, 05:53:15 pm
Yeah and sitting NFL HC would never leave for this job twice, Ryan Mallet isnít transferring, and we canít land a P5 HC that has won 3 Conference Championships.

And how has that worked out for us? Most here have said that Bryant doesn't have a chance of being drafted, yet he is the heir apparent to lead us to the promised land. Get an O-Line that doesn't force a quarterback to run for his life, or move the pocket every play, and the QB's we have can make things happen. Any QB with our current O-Line would have to be related to Houdini to be effective.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 06, 2018, 08:36:57 pm
And how has that worked out for us? Most here have said that Bryant doesn't have a chance of being drafted, yet he is the heir apparent to lead us to the promised land. Get an O-Line that doesn't force a quarterback to run for his life, or move the pocket every play, and the QB's we have can make things happen. Any QB with our current O-Line would have to be related to Houdini to be effective.

3 of 4 things worked out very well. Leading to multiple 10+ wins seasons.

And no poster has said Bryant will lead us to the promise land. Just back to a decent bowl
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 06, 2018, 09:19:18 pm
There is high level talent at Clemson and Bryant struggled in some areas. What will Bryant do at Arkansas that he couldn't do for Clemson?
Sure, we don't have the tools he had at Clemson, but at Arkansas he would be able to run the whole offense. That would accelerate the offensive install and shorten the rebuild by half a season, giving us a better chance to start 2018 strong.

His ability to make plays with his legs would immediately make our offense more productive.

He got fired at Clemson with stats that would have him as the #3 or #4 QB in the SEC.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: redleg on October 06, 2018, 09:27:51 pm
Sooooooo.....is Kelly Bryant coming to Arkansas?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 06, 2018, 10:16:58 pm
Sooooooo.....is Kelly Bryant coming to Arkansas?
Question is, can he win the starting position if he does?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 06, 2018, 11:07:46 pm
Question is, can he win the starting position if he does?

Yes. Perfect 1 year bridge to Noland, JSJ, or Jefferson.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: InHognito on October 06, 2018, 11:13:32 pm
Sooooooo.....is Kelly Bryant coming to Arkansas?

Nah. An upperclassman doesnt transfer to help a team rebuild. He's looking to win now.

Auburn, LSU, Oklahoma, etc
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 06, 2018, 11:18:29 pm
I say Bryant is a HOG next year! 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 07, 2018, 03:36:11 am
Question is, can he win the starting position if he does?

You canít be serious with this question. He is clearly better than anything we have
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on October 07, 2018, 06:46:37 am
You canít be serious with this question. He is clearly better than anything we have
And lost his job to a freshman
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Letsroll1200 on October 07, 2018, 06:48:20 am
And lost his job to a freshman

A 5 star freshman!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 07, 2018, 09:38:56 am
Am I the only one who saw that we literally could not tackle the Bama players?  Bad news...we aren't going to beat them 63-62 just by adding Bryant.  The could have scored over 80 on us if they had wanted. 

This is a top to bottom rebuild to ever be close to competitive with the SEC elite.  I will say that I think Bama can do that to anyone in the country right now, so I don't take a lot of stock in that lopsided defeat, but the fact that we were bouncing off their guys like popcorn trying to tackle them...was pretty deflating, and showed how far off we are more than anything else in that game. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PharmacistHog on October 07, 2018, 09:42:46 am
Am I the only one who saw that we literally could not tackle the Bama players?  Bad news...we aren't going to beat them 63-62 just by adding Bryant.  The could have scored over 80 on us if they had wanted. 

This is a top to bottom rebuild to ever be close to competitive with the SEC elite.  I will say that I think Bama can do that to anyone in the country right now, so I don't take a lot of stock in that lopsided defeat, but the fact that we were bouncing off their guys like popcorn trying to tackle them...was pretty deflating, and showed how far off we are more than anything else in that game. 

Our recruiting on the defensive side of the ball is pretty damn strong right now. Help is on the way.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 09:54:08 am
You canít be serious with this question. He is clearly better than anything we have
I think you discount the talent of our young quarterbacks.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: redneckfriend on October 07, 2018, 10:16:16 am
Am I the only one who saw that we literally could not tackle the Bama players?  Bad news...we aren't going to beat them 63-62 just by adding Bryant.  The could have scored over 80 on us if they had wanted. 

This is a top to bottom rebuild to ever be close to competitive with the SEC elite.  I will say that I think Bama can do that to anyone in the country right now, so I don't take a lot of stock in that lopsided defeat, but the fact that we were bouncing off their guys like popcorn trying to tackle them...was pretty deflating, and showed how far off we are more than anything else in that game.

You're raining on the parade here- we now take lopsided defeats as "victories" because how else can you deal with this reality? You have to make lemonade out of lemons. No, it is beyond unlikely that we can or will ever match the kinds of recruiting classes Alabama has, even when Saban is gone. They will just reload with another 11 million dollar coach- and really Saban doesn't win any games-he just recruits the studs that do from the very fertile football recruiting grounds in Alabama and then bootstraps success with those recruits into national recruits. Arkansas can't do that.



What needs to be asked is can Arkansas be competitive with the second tier of the SEC west on a regular basis? Maybe- with the right coach i.e. a great recruiter who can entice real SEC level players to come from neighboring states. So the two relevant questions now are- 1) in the short term- can Morris get Storey to be SEC quality, say a Brandon Allen type quarterback (and I for one do expect Storey to be the quarterback next year- he will need to show continued improvement but he really still has very few game reps under his belt) and 2) for the long term- is Morris the guy who can develop the kind of sustained year to year recruiting necessary to be competitive with second tier SEC west teams? The answer to both those questions is blowing in the wind so for now it's all hands on deck to cheer whatever positives can be made out of a 30+ point defeat at home. You need to hop on the band wagon. That will be 10 Woo pigs and go and sin no more.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: JaketheSnake on October 07, 2018, 10:25:44 am
You're raining on the parade here- we now take lopsided defeats as "victories" because how else can you deal with this reality? You have to make lemonade out of lemons. No, it is beyond unlikely that we can or will ever match the kinds of recruiting classes Alabama has, even when Saban is gone. They will just reload with another 11 million dollar coach- and really Saban doesn't win any games-he just recruits the studs that do from the very fertile football recruiting grounds in Alabama and then bootstraps success with those recruits into national recruits. Arkansas can't do that.



What needs to be asked is can Arkansas be competitive with the second tier of the SEC west on a regular basis? Maybe- with the right coach i.e. a great recruiter who can entice real SEC level players to come from neighboring states. So the two relevant questions now are- 1) in the short term- can Morris get Storey to be SEC quality, say a Brandon Allen type quarterback (and I for one do expect Storey to be the quarterback next year- he will need to show continued improvement but he really still has very few game reps under his belt) and 2) for the long term- is Morris the guy who can develop the kind of sustained year to year recruiting necessary to be competitive with second tier SEC west teams? The answer to both those questions is blowing in the wind so for now it's all hands on deck to cheer whatever positives can be made out of a 30+ point defeat at home. You need to hop on the band wagon. That will be 10 Woo pigs and go and sin no more.
There is no other Saban.  When he is gone they will still be strong, but likely back to the level of LSU/GA strong.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rzrbk4life on October 07, 2018, 10:39:00 am
There is no other Saban.  When he is gone they will still be strong, but likely back to the level of LSU/GA strong.

Iíve thought about this as well. Once saban leaves they will still be great, but I donít see them being as dominant as they are now. Canít imagine trying to be the coach to follow in sabanís shoes
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 10:47:16 am
Iíve thought about this as well. Once saban leaves they will still be great, but I donít see them being as dominant as they are now. Canít imagine trying to be the coach to follow in sabanís shoes
Ive wondered many times what makes him sooo much better than everybody else.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 07, 2018, 11:30:31 am
Nah. An upperclassman doesnt transfer to help a team rebuild. He's looking to win now.

Auburn, LSU, Oklahoma, etc

May be true, but again I just doubt he goes to compete with a former 5-star multiple year returning starter at Auburn. The offense is a good fit so its possible. It just seems risky for a guy that wants to start his final year of eligibility. I don't think that means he's afraid of competition it's about was is the wise move that gives you a mix of playing time, probably at least a bowl and an offense that allows you to showcase your skills for a shot at the NFL. LSU runs a spread that is different enough that he probably won't want that learning curve. Not all spreads are created equal. If Matt Canada was still the OC at LSU that might be different. OU could be a landing spot, but I think in the end he goes to a team capable of going to a bowl where he has a relationship and runs a similar offense that he has been running. I would love him to come here and could see us making a bowl with him, but of course, I have no clue if he will. I agree he may not want to take a risk by coming here to fall short of a bowl at 5-7. My point is I just don't think its going to be all about program prestige with the biggest name.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: tusksincolorado on October 07, 2018, 11:48:42 am

The Clemson DC who is buddies with CCM, isn't he coming  to coach at Arkansas???
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: redneckfriend on October 07, 2018, 11:53:15 am
Ive wondered many times what makes him sooo much better than everybody else.


The players he recruits- success breeds success. He is also, I think, a "no excuses type of coach" and sort of ruthless as evidenced by his treatment of Jalen Hurts. Nothing gets in the way of the ultimate goal of winning-but it still comes down to the players he gets, the ones the Arkansas players were "bouncing off. . . (of) like popcorn".
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on October 07, 2018, 11:54:23 am
Whatever works.
Think I might get me a couple tshirts made up with freeze's  face on it that says "Get a stripper on your zipper."
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 12:03:28 pm

The players he recruits- success breeds success. He is also, I think, a "no excuses type of coach" and sort of ruthless as evidenced by his treatment of Jalen Hurts. Nothing gets in the way of the ultimate goal of winning-but it still comes down to the players he gets, the ones the Arkansas players were "bouncing off. . . (of) like popcorn".
There is more to it than that. Lots of D1 coaches are azzholes. None of them have success like he does.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rtr on October 07, 2018, 12:06:47 pm
You're raining on the parade here- we now take lopsided defeats as "victories" because how else can you deal with this reality? You have to make lemonade out of lemons. No, it is beyond unlikely that we can or will ever match the kinds of recruiting classes Alabama has, even when Saban is gone. They will just reload with another 11 million dollar coach- and really Saban doesn't win any games-he just recruits the studs that do from the very fertile football recruiting grounds in Alabama and then bootstraps success with those recruits into national recruits. Arkansas can't do that.



What needs to be asked is can Arkansas be competitive with the second tier of the SEC west on a regular basis? Maybe- with the right coach i.e. a great recruiter who can entice real SEC level players to come from neighboring states. So the two relevant questions now are- 1) in the short term- can Morris get Storey to be SEC quality, say a Brandon Allen type quarterback (and I for one do expect Storey to be the quarterback next year- he will need to show continued improvement but he really still has very few game reps under his belt) and 2) for the long term- is Morris the guy who can develop the kind of sustained year to year recruiting necessary to be competitive with second tier SEC west teams? The answer to both those questions is blowing in the wind so for now it's all hands on deck to cheer whatever positives can be made out of a 30+ point defeat at home. You need to hop on the band wagon. That will be 10 Woo pigs and go and sin no more.
Good grief, what a bunch of horse fertilizer.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 07, 2018, 12:16:31 pm
Nah. An upperclassman doesnt transfer to help a team rebuild. He's looking to win now.

Auburn, LSU, Oklahoma, etc
There are a number of reasons that can go into why someone does/doesn't decide to transfer to a particular program. And while possible win/loss totals are certainly a consideration, it isn't necessarily the end-all, be-all. For instance, makes very little sense for a kid to move to another program, no matter how good, if it doesn't run a similar/familiar type of offensive scheme. Doesn't mean the young man will eventually call the Hogs; however, it also  doesn't mean he won't either. BTW using your reasoning Bryant would obviously only want to move over to 'Bama, tOSU, UGa or some other such program that already have well entrenched starters. Yep, the opportunity of PLAYING TIME and/or the ability to start has NOTHING to do with such considerations. Brilliant!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: redneckfriend on October 07, 2018, 12:45:58 pm
There is more to it than that. Lots of D1 coaches are azzholes. None of them have success like he does.

 The burden of proof is on you here since no one has the players he does. Also when he doesn't have a quarterback like he does now he is much more vulnerable even with the great defenses, wide receivers and running backs that are almost always there in bulk.

Also I wouldn't call him an a**hole- more like a hardass. I don't think he does anything differently than anyone else except demand accountability and focus on what works without a lot of emotion and personal involvement with players. Petrino is probably similar in that regard- he just can't get the talent Saban can because players want to play for a proven winner in a program given extra attention by the NFL.
 
 The fumble into the end zone was a great example of players not quitting even when there didn't appear to be any benefit in it and I would guess that is what Saban expects- go the extra mile on the little things and use your talent to the utmost.  If those wide receivers hadn't been in position in the end zone to recover I imagine there would have been real consequences when they looked at the film on Monday- as it was Saban's expression when they came off the field was priceless- as in "Gddamn- they did what they were supposed to and what I expect them to do".
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: redneckfriend on October 07, 2018, 12:55:34 pm
Good grief, what a bunch of horse fertilizer.

Which part? If it was the poor attempt at humor then I agree. You'll have to forgive my suspicion that that wasn't it however since there are so many sunshine pumpers on this site trying to turn a 30+ point loss into a highwater mark for Arkansas football. If that's your problem you need help- and a little reality testing.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: yraciv on October 07, 2018, 01:01:03 pm
I don't get the fascination with KJ. Time and time again we fall in love with the FR QB recruit, and if i'm not mistaken Rafe and Noland were higher rated recruits.

The way I see the QB race panning out next year, is Storey, Noland, Jones, and KJ redshirting. I think Cole Kelley and Daulton Hyatt will likely transfer out. All those returners will be improving, so it is possible Storey could get jumped on the depth chart.

That being said I know what Kelly Bryant is. He is a proven, high level, dual threat that Morris seems to like controlling his offense. I also believe he is a better QB than Ty Storey, so I'd be happy to sign him up for a year. Unless you are a can't miss QB recruit, such as Trevor Lawrence, I don't want us to ever be in a position again where a true FR should be expected to play as soon as he steps on campus.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 01:08:27 pm
I think people will be shocked at how good  jsj and cn are next year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: yraciv on October 07, 2018, 01:08:44 pm
FYI - KJ's numbers this year aren't record shattering. He has thrown 13 TD and 5 INT in 7 games. Now maybe his WR aren't as strong this year, and they aren't all his fault, but if you were to look at just HS production, I'm pretty sure JSJ, Noland, and Storey all had better numbers their SR year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 07, 2018, 01:09:43 pm
FYI - KJ's numbers this year aren't record shattering. He has thrown 13 TD and 5 INT in 7 games. Now maybe his WR aren't as strong this year, and they aren't all his fault, but if you were to look at just HS production, I'm pretty sure JSJ, Noland, and Storey all had better numbers their SR year.

Good thing college has nothing to do with high school production. Nice try though
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 01:14:40 pm
Good thing college has nothing to do with high school production. Nice try though
Stupid logic.
If you dont produce at that level, the deck is damn sure stacked against you at this one.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 07, 2018, 01:16:24 pm
Iíve thought about this as well. Once saban leaves they will still be great, but I donít see them being as dominant as they are now. Canít imagine trying to be the coach to follow in sabanís shoes
I've been to Bama games down at their place where dozens of tickets were on the ground everywhere. Houston Nutt was going down there and beating them. Its always after they get caught cheating and come back down to earth. Shortly after the Albert Means ordeal they were a regular team. Do you not think they have the same Albert Means situation going on right now? Heck yes they do! Have come close to going down several times lately. DJ Fluker, Julio(the suit ) Jones, A couple  of Heisman type running backs were exposed with impermissible benefits situations. Some smoke but lots of cash and bama privilege made them go away but they will slip up and the USC/Reggie Bush thingy where Pete Carroll just happened to go to Seattle (coincidence wink wink). Will happen there again(forrest gump), and then again, and again cause that's what they do.Buy championships. Them and their fans are just fine with it.
I apologize for the rant and derail.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 07, 2018, 01:49:04 pm
Stupid logic.
If you dont produce at that level, the deck is damn sure stacked against you at this one.

How is that stupid? The guy was making an argument that our QB's on our roster were just as good in high school. Meaning we don't need Bryant. Your logic is pretty dumb in my opinion.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 01:57:53 pm
How is that stupid? The guy was making an argument that our QB's on our roster were just as good in high school. Meaning we don't need Bryant. Your logic is pretty dumb in my opinion.
I misinterpreted your post. Sorry.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: yraciv on October 07, 2018, 04:04:41 pm
Good thing college has nothing to do with high school production. Nice try though

Didn't say it does. Just thinking those who think KJ is the answer, and will come in as a true FR and play are naive . I hope like hell he is all sec caliber from day 1, but I was just stating that we have higher rated recruits with better high school stats he'll have to jump on the depth chart.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: yraciv on October 07, 2018, 04:10:05 pm
How is that stupid? The guy was making an argument that our QB's on our roster were just as good in high school. Meaning we don't need Bryant. Your logic is pretty dumb in my opinion.

I absolutely didn't say we don't need Bryant. Two post prior I said I'd take Bryant in a heart beat because he is better than Ty. My post was just addressing the people that fall in love with the HS QB recruit, and I was stating that I don't think he will come in  Day 1 and beat out whoever is left in our QB room next spring.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 07, 2018, 04:11:41 pm
OK...Gus was never coming here. Gruden was never coming here. AND... Bryant is never coming here. Move on.
As for the absolute last, nothing is final until it is.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dsf on October 07, 2018, 04:12:09 pm
Nah. An upperclassman doesnt transfer to help a team rebuild. He's looking to win now.

Auburn, LSU, Oklahoma, etc

Bryant is only going where he is promised the starting job...no more, no less.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: thebignasty on October 07, 2018, 04:15:24 pm
Bryant is only going where he is promised the starting job...no more, no less.

Its this.  Also looking to go somewhere he can have success in his last year- so an offense that he knows or can pick up quickly.


I don't think its likely he ends up here next year, but we have a shot.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 04:20:01 pm
Bryant is only going where he is promised the starting job...no more, no less.
Well if thats the case, i hope its not here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dsf on October 07, 2018, 04:20:48 pm

That being said I know what Kelly Bryant is. He is a proven, high level, dual threat that Morris seems to like controlling his offense. I also believe he is a better QB than Ty Storey, so I'd be happy to sign him up for a year.

I believe you totally overestimate KB.  I live in NC and my Clemson (analytical, I might add) friends have told me for over a year how limited they were with him.  He is not a good passer, other than short stuff.  And, he is very poor reading the option.  His saving grace is scrambling.  Very quick and dangerous when scrambling.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 07, 2018, 04:37:14 pm
Well if thats the case, i hope its not here.

Why? So we can rotate QBís to week 4 again?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 07, 2018, 04:42:07 pm
Bryant is only going where he is promised the starting job...no more, no less.
Unless you know the young man and/or you've spoken to him directly I seriously doubt you know exactly what his criteria is.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: thebignasty on October 07, 2018, 04:49:36 pm
Unless you know the young man and/or you've spoken to him directly I seriously doubt you know exactly what his criteria is.
He announced he was redshirting and transferring from championship contender Clemson the moment he lost his starting gig there. Think that makes it pretty clear what he's looking for.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 07, 2018, 05:01:49 pm
He announced he was redshirting and transferring from championship contender Clemson the moment he lost his starting gig there. Think that makes it pretty clear what he's looking for.
Well.....have you ever considered that may NOT be the absolute ONLY criteria he's checking out? I mean it would make very little sense for him to choose a program that doesn't fit his skill sets merely to be named the starting QB. I'm sure that there a number of programs that would like him as their signal caller next year. However, it also makes perfect sense that in order for him so succeed his abilities would best be put to use by selecting an offense that does. Here's an radical suggestion: he selects a program that runs an offense he's already familiar with/best fits his skill sets AND that doesn't already have a "set in stone, not going to supplant QB" already in place? Not saying this does/doesn't mean he eventually chooses the Hogs; just saying there is likely more than just one factor to consider on his part. So back to your court..........
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: thebignasty on October 07, 2018, 05:08:46 pm
Well.....have you ever considered that may NOT be the absolute ONLY criteria he's checking out? I mean it would make very little sense for him to choose a program that doesn't fit his skill sets merely to be named the starting QB. I'm sure that there a number of programs that would like him as their signal caller next year. However, it also makes perfect sense that in order for him so succeed his abilities would best be put to use by selecting an offense that does. Here's an radical suggestion: he selects a program that runs an offense he's already familiar with/best fits his skill sets AND that doesn't already have a "set in stone, not going to supplant QB" already in place? Not saying this does/doesn't mean he eventually chooses the Hogs; just saying there is likely more than just one factor to consider on his part. So back to your court..........

Its this.  Also looking to go somewhere he can have success in his last year- so an offense that he knows or can pick up quickly.


I don't think its likely he ends up here next year, but we have a shot.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 05:12:58 pm
Why? So we can rotate QBís to week 4 again?
I dont  know that will happen again. Neither do you.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rtr on October 07, 2018, 08:09:38 pm
Which part? If it was the poor attempt at humor then I agree. You'll have to forgive my suspicion that that wasn't it however since there are so many sunshine pumpers on this site trying to turn a 30+ point loss into a highwater mark for Arkansas football. If that's your problem you need help- and a little reality testing.
Not trying to turn it into a high water mark, just some evidence that we have finally seen the bottom since Bret Bielema threw our program into the abyss. 

I will say this though, we need to get competitive again, with Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M and Missouri.  You are right about that.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Paul on October 07, 2018, 08:26:28 pm
It's between us and Auburn. That's what I hear. Don't know how it'll shake out, but whatever Jared Stidham does at the end of this season will probably play a part. Supposedly he's on the fence if he's going to head to the NFL draft after this year.
after last nite's performance he's prolly off the fence.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hawgman on October 07, 2018, 08:54:14 pm
after last nite's performance he's prolly off the fence.
If it is between us and au if he waits until after they play Bama we will probably be in a good position
Bama will mop floor with the Tiggers and the million dollar man IMO
I predict it will look worse than our game.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dropkick on October 07, 2018, 09:50:11 pm
If it is between us and au if he waits until after they play Bama we will probably be in a good position
Bama will mop floor with the Tiggers and the million dollar man IMO
I predict it will look worse than our game.
While I think Bama will easily beat Auburn. They wonít score at will against the Tiger defense like they did on us.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PORKULATOR on October 07, 2018, 09:53:14 pm
We need to give KJ a year in my opinion so either Ty keeps growing as a Qb and we roll with him or we take KB for a year. Most of us hope that KJ is the future because he's already and it'd be nice if it were that easy.
I for one hope he's the next Deshaun Watson but I don't expect to see it for about 3 years.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 07, 2018, 09:57:28 pm
While I think Bama will easily beat Auburn. They wonít score at will against the Tiger defense like they did on us.

I dunno...if Auburn struggles to move the ball as much as they have recently, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see some quit from the defense.  Anything less than 100% effort, and Bama is going to put up video game numbers on any CFB team this season. 

(In before GoHogs101 lectures me on how great Venables' defense is, and that they will stop Bama in their tracks)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PigWig on October 07, 2018, 10:13:18 pm
FYI - KJ's numbers this year aren't record shattering. He has thrown 13 TD and 5 INT in 7 games. Now maybe his WR aren't as strong this year, and they aren't all his fault, but if you were to look at just HS production, I'm pretty sure JSJ, Noland, and Storey all had better numbers their SR year.
KJís numbers are skewed because he doesnít usually play after halftime. His team has won all but one game this year by 4 TDs or more.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hoglady on October 07, 2018, 10:21:17 pm
All I know is if Bryant comes here with a promise to start - Storey probably will and should transfer.
Then Bryant better bring it - and be a lot better than Storey.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sowmonella on October 07, 2018, 10:26:03 pm
There will be no promise to start.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 10:55:31 pm
There will be no promise to start.
Lets hope not.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogCzar1 on October 07, 2018, 11:11:16 pm
All I know is if Bryant comes here with a promise to start - Storey probably will and should transfer.
Then Bryant better bring it - and be a lot better than Storey.

I don't think that Chad would promise Kelly Bryant anything, other than a chance to compete. On the other hand, Chad's job is to make our team better. If Bryant transfers here, and wins the job, then he should be the QB. No questions asked.

Ty is getting better, and has competed well. However, he is not entitled to be the QB moving forward unless he is the best we have at the position. And, we need better players at nearly every position in order to be successful in the SEC.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AugustaHog on October 07, 2018, 11:33:24 pm
I would say no promise other than a chance.  Iíd tell him to pop in a Storey highlight reel and figure whether or not he can beat him out.  If no, thanks for the interest.  Winner takes all. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 07, 2018, 11:36:39 pm
It wont be just TS either.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hoglady on October 08, 2018, 08:01:51 am
I don't think that Chad would promise Kelly Bryant anything, other than a chance to compete. On the other hand, Chad's job is to make our team better. If Bryant transfers here, and wins the job, then he should be the QB. No questions asked.

Ty is getting better, and has competed well. However, he is not entitled to be the QB moving forward unless he is the best we have at the position. And, we need better players at nearly every position in order to be successful in the SEC.


I didn't say Storey was entitiled to start next year.
It was being discussed that Bryant wasn't going to a school without a promise to start.
If he gets that to come here - Storey should transfer.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 08, 2018, 09:19:03 am
At this point I'm not sure a "hired gun for 1 year is the best fix. The recruits coming in seem to be sold on the team comradery and Morris being a fatherlike figure. I know this is totally different from what I've thought before. Just how much will a quick fix at QB change the outcome without a bunch of new O linemen. I'm not lobbying for Storey as he's still missing some big plays but he is getting much better and the team dynamic with him as leader seems to have taken off. So just how many more wins do we think we can achieve with a Kelly Bryant over Ty and is that worth it to disrupt Morris's roll with recruiting? Just thinking out loud here.
What if Ty's performance in the second half of the season gets ridiculously better?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 08, 2018, 09:34:43 am
At this point I'm not sure a "hired gun for 1 year is the best fix. The recruits coming in seem to be sold on the team comradery and Morris being a fatherlike figure. I know this is totally different from what I've thought before. Just how much will a quick fix at QB change the outcome without a bunch of new O linemen. I'm not lobbying for Storey as he's still missing some big plays but he is getting much better and the team dynamic with him as leader seems to have taken off. So just how many more wins do we think we can achieve with a Kelly Bryant over Ty and is that worth it to disrupt Morris's roll with recruiting? Just thinking out loud here.
What if Ty's performance in the second half of the season gets ridiculously better?
Exactly. Let this guy come over if he wants to, but no promises.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 08, 2018, 09:37:41 am
At this point I'm not sure a "hired gun for 1 year is the best fix. The recruits coming in seem to be sold on the team comradery and Morris being a fatherlike figure. I know this is totally different from what I've thought before. Just how much will a quick fix at QB change the outcome without a bunch of new O linemen. I'm not lobbying for Storey as he's still missing some big plays but he is getting much better and the team dynamic with him as leader seems to have taken off. So just how many more wins do we think we can achieve with a Kelly Bryant over Ty and is that worth it to disrupt Morris's roll with recruiting? Just thinking out loud here.
What if Ty's performance in the second half of the season gets ridiculously better?

Great post.  I've wondered this for awhile.  If you're an incoming Fr., or lets say you've red shirted, and you see a Grad transfer come in from another school with 3-4 years experience take the starting job, I wonder what that does for overall team morale.  I'm not specific to the UA, but to ANY school who takes that avenue.  If you're a Fr. RS Fr., or Soph....maybe that's not a huge deal, because you have time to learn and take over when he leaves.  But...if you're going to be a Jr. or Sr. who has been biding his time, then that's going to be hard to stomach. 

And to echo what you're saying...what does that say to recruits.  "We really need you, and there's a great chance you're going to play very soon in your career," when in the mean time, we just brought in a grad transfer that took the starting job from an upper classmen? 

I see both sides...you HAVE to win to start getting the upper tier recruits on a consistent basis, but at the same time, you risk losing the team when a random grad transfer shows up.  In a perfect world...he would be head and shoulders better, and the team would like him as a person.  But...rarely do things go "perfect world."

I have a feeling we're seeing the last of Conner Noland, and he'll focus on the Baseball diamond following this season.  My rationale for feeling that way is that he will see that his meal ticket is baseball...not football.  I think CK will transfer, and rightfully so....this just isn't a fit for him, and he may do well in a pure pocket passing system with a good O-line.     
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Rock City Razorback on October 08, 2018, 09:56:21 am
We need to give KJ a year in my opinion so either Ty keeps growing as a Qb and we roll with him or we take KB for a year. Most of us hope that KJ is the future because he's already and it'd be nice if it were that easy.
I for one hope he's the next Deshaun Watson but I don't expect to see it for about 3 years.

This. You can't expect a freshman to come in and take over. Noland was thought pretty highly of and he didn't come in ready to be QB1. Other teams have done it, but they did it with an elite QB and better talent around them. We have to take our lumps, redshirt these kids and DEVELOP THEM! Something Bret failed to do. Stop wasting redshirts and years of eligibility. Although we may improve, Bryant most likely won't come here to a team that's not already established, especially with a 5th year Sr who's already on the team. I just don't think it's realistic, despite the connections. Now if Morris doesn't feel Ty can get it done, hooks him up with a place to land, and knows that Bryant does want to come, that's a different story. But more than likely, Storey will battle Noland next year for the starting spot. Kelley will likely transfer, but selfishly I wouldn't mind keeping him for backup and Steamboat package
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Letsroll1200 on October 08, 2018, 10:06:07 am
This. You can't expect a freshman to come in and take over. Noland was thought pretty highly of and he didn't come in ready to be QB1. Other teams have done it, but they did it with an elite QB and better talent around them. We have to take our lumps, redshirt these kids and DEVELOP THEM! Something Bret failed to do. Stop wasting redshirts and years of eligibility. Although we may improve, Bryant most likely won't come here to a team that's not already established, especially with a 5th year Sr who's already on the team. I just don't think it's realistic, despite the connections. Now if Morris doesn't feel Ty can get it done, hooks him up with a place to land, and knows that Bryant does want to come, that's a different story. But more than likely, Storey will battle Noland next year for the starting spot. Kelley will likely transfer, but selfishly I wouldn't mind keeping him for backup and Steamboat package

I was hearing the KJ will be a early enrollee. Noland did not come in early so expecting him to produce was probably too much to ask of him. I think if KJ is here during spring practices than he will have a chance to start.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 08, 2018, 02:41:37 pm
Great post.  I've wondered this for awhile.  If you're an incoming Fr., or lets say you've red shirted, and you see a Grad transfer come in from another school with 3-4 years experience take the starting job, I wonder what that does for overall team morale.  I'm not specific to the UA, but to ANY school who takes that avenue.  If you're a Fr. RS Fr., or Soph....maybe that's not a huge deal, because you have time to learn and take over when he leaves.  But...if you're going to be a Jr. or Sr. who has been biding his time, then that's going to be hard to stomach. 

And to echo what you're saying...what does that say to recruits.  "We really need you, and there's a great chance you're going to play very soon in your career," when in the mean time, we just brought in a grad transfer that took the starting job from an upper classmen? 

I see both sides...you HAVE to win to start getting the upper tier recruits on a consistent basis, but at the same time, you risk losing the team when a random grad transfer shows up.  In a perfect world...he would be head and shoulders better, and the team would like him as a person.  But...rarely do things go "perfect world."

I have a feeling we're seeing the last of Conner Noland, and he'll focus on the Baseball diamond following this season.  My rationale for feeling that way is that he will see that his meal ticket is baseball...not football.  I think CK will transfer, and rightfully so....this just isn't a fit for him, and he may do well in a pure pocket passing system with a good O-line.     
You just have to stay true and honest. IN all honesty we need and should get help at the O line position cause honestly you don't know if those waiting on their turn are gonna be healthy. IE its easy for them (current players) to se and agree that we need the help now and in bunches. Any incoming freshman lineman can be told he's going to redshirt and even the JUCO's,cause depending on their eligibility they prolly need a year too. The JuCo I saw this last weekend had a great frame but need ed 30-40 more pounds to have the SEC look. And if you saw the other team Saturday you saw the SEC look. A QB is a slightly different animal. There is only 1 QB spot, Its the leadership capital of your team. For 1 year, whats the price?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on October 08, 2018, 02:46:30 pm
Great post.  I've wondered this for awhile.  If you're an incoming Fr., or lets say you've red shirted, and you see a Grad transfer come in from another school with 3-4 years experience take the starting job, I wonder what that does for overall team morale.  I'm not specific to the UA, but to ANY school who takes that avenue.  If you're a Fr. RS Fr., or Soph....maybe that's not a huge deal, because you have time to learn and take over when he leaves.  But...if you're going to be a Jr. or Sr. who has been biding his time, then that's going to be hard to stomach. 

And to echo what you're saying...what does that say to recruits.  "We really need you, and there's a great chance you're going to play very soon in your career," when in the mean time, we just brought in a grad transfer that took the starting job from an upper classmen? 

I see both sides...you HAVE to win to start getting the upper tier recruits on a consistent basis, but at the same time, you risk losing the team when a random grad transfer shows up.  In a perfect world...he would be head and shoulders better, and the team would like him as a person.  But...rarely do things go "perfect world."

I have a feeling we're seeing the last of Conner Noland, and he'll focus on the Baseball diamond following this season.  My rationale for feeling that way is that he will see that his meal ticket is baseball...not football.  I think CK will transfer, and rightfully so....this just isn't a fit for him, and he may do well in a pure pocket passing system with a good O-line.     

Connor LOVES football. It is why he pretty much said " don't draft me " to mlb this past spring, because he was 100% committed to going to college. He has electric stuff on the mound and at some point, I agree that will become his focus.

As for your question on grad transfers, I think it sets up a possible cycle of always having to do that because you bring one in and make a couple underclassmen mad and they leave, and you are stuck again with no experience, so you turn to a grad transfer again, and it just goes on and on. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 08, 2018, 09:37:24 pm
I dunno...if Auburn struggles to move the ball as much as they have recently, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see some quit from the defense.  Anything less than 100% effort, and Bama is going to put up video game numbers on any CFB team this season. 

(In before GoHogs101 lectures me on how great Venables' defense is, and that they will stop Bama in their tracks)

Well, since Alabama had to utilize holding onto our defensive linemen, then how are they going to block a Clemson defensive line that has 4 probable NFL 1st Round draft picks?

Also, it is looking like Venables is getting his Secondary to be solid.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 08, 2018, 10:01:21 pm
Well, since Alabama had to utilize holding onto our defensive linemen, then how are they going to block a Clemson defensive line that has 4 probable NFL 1st Round draft picks?

Also, it is looking like Venables is getting his Secondary to be solid.

I'm glad you didn't disappoint.   8)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AugustaHog on October 08, 2018, 10:01:34 pm
I didn't say Storey was entitiled to start next year.
It was being discussed that Bryant wasn't going to a school without a promise to start.
If he gets that to come here - Storey should transfer.
Our staff is smarter than to announce something like that.  You know if somebody is added that it will be sold as an open comp.  With the heart he has shown, Storey deserves an honest chance, no more no less.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 08, 2018, 10:09:29 pm
Connor LOVES football. It is why he pretty much said " don't draft me " to mlb this past spring, because he was 100% committed to going to college. He has electric stuff on the mound and at some point, I agree that will become his focus.

As for your question on grad transfers, I think it sets up a possible cycle of always having to do that because you bring one in and make a couple underclassmen mad and they leave, and you are stuck again with no experience, so you turn to a grad transfer again, and it just goes on and on.

That's good to hear about Noland, and he's one of the few major talents that I was aware of, and didn't go see during his Sr. hear of HS.  Other than his brief appearances, that's all I have seen.  I thought Jones looked really small out there, and I'm guessing he's going to be the holder moving forward, or something like that role...or transfers to UCA or a similar school if he wants to play.   

That's kind of how I view it with grad transfers.  We're seeing Boyd as evidence that if you target the right JUCO players, and they have overcome whatever caused them to land at JUCO in the outset, they can have a major impact.  That seems like a more reasonable approach to filling gaps that recruiting may leave. 

I keep getting gruff about saying we need a dual threat difference maker at QB, and that "that's not really required in CCM's system."  Well...I don't care about that.  I think it is required FOR US TO DO WELL in today's CFB landscape regardless of the coach, because we HAVE to field talent at the positions that make the most impact, with QB being the most.     
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Athog on October 08, 2018, 10:22:07 pm
Why? So we can rotate QBís to week 4 again?

Having Bryant and playing him no matter???
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: navyhog24 on October 09, 2018, 11:51:37 am
Rumors are swirling that Penn St, Oklahoma, and Arkansas lead early for Bryant's services
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 09, 2018, 11:53:39 am
BOOMER SOONER!!!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: bigred223 on October 09, 2018, 11:56:27 am
He announced he was redshirting and transferring from championship contender Clemson the moment he lost his starting gig there. Think that makes it pretty clear what he's looking for.

Yeah, pretty clear that he wants to play.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 09, 2018, 12:02:07 pm
Rumors are swirling that Penn St, Oklahoma, and Arkansas lead early for Bryant's services

Canít be true we had several posters state Bryant will have no interest in Arkansas
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 09, 2018, 12:06:14 pm
Never seen so many QB experts as on Hogville. Amazing.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Redhogs on October 09, 2018, 12:59:20 pm
Yeah, pretty clear that he wants to play.
Then there is absolutely no way OK. is in the mix..they have a great qb...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Sportsnutt9 on October 09, 2018, 01:35:28 pm
Then there is absolutely no way OK. is in the mix..they have a great qb...

I bet this is his last year in football. The A's just paid him 5+ mil for baseball. I don't see them letting that investment play football again after this season.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Swinelake on October 09, 2018, 01:39:54 pm
Its this.  Also looking to go somewhere he can have success in his last year- so an offense that he knows or can pick up quickly.


I don't think its likely he ends up here next year, but we have a shot.

Three of the last four QBs at Arkansas were drafted. Something for a kid who has one year to make the league could consider.

Edit: two of them are still playing in the NFL. (I think. BA made a roster this year, right?)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 09, 2018, 01:54:14 pm
The good part about that is that we could pay him with untraceable Visa gift cards and a free Boost mobile plan.

With the sanctions we would get from hiring him I would not want him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 09, 2018, 01:55:13 pm
Three of the last four QBs at Arkansas were drafted. Something for a kid who has one year to make the league could consider.

Edit: two of them are still playing in the NFL. (I think. BA made a roster this year, right?)
Only one left.
Mallett is free agent. Probably over for him
A Allen never made a squad
B Allen is 3rd team on rams. Last year of his rookie contrat. Put out or get out next year.
Wilson went nowhere
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Piggyback78 on October 09, 2018, 01:57:28 pm
Think we best stick with storey..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AugustaHog on October 09, 2018, 02:44:41 pm
I bet this is his last year in football. The A's just paid him 5+ mil for baseball. I don't see them letting that investment play football again after this season.
Yeah that's part of the contract with the A's.  They agreed to give him this season to pursue his football and then he would strictly be a baseball player.  That's a lot of $$$ to walk away from with no guarantee of football providing the same kind of windfall.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Swinelake on October 09, 2018, 03:31:03 pm
Only one left.
Mallett is free agent. Probably over for him
A Allen never made a squad
B Allen is 3rd team on rams. Last year of his rookie contrat. Put out or get out next year.
Wilson went nowhere
Mallet is a free agent? Thought he was backing up Flacco still.

I don't pay much attention to the NFLol
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on October 09, 2018, 03:35:04 pm
Mallet is a free agent? Thought he was backing up Flacco still.

I don't pay much attention to the NFLol

No they drafted Lamar Jackson and also have RG3, so pretty much the polar opposite of Mallet.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Swinelake on October 09, 2018, 03:39:28 pm
No they drafted Lamar Jackson and also have RG3, so pretty much the polar opposite of Mallet.

Wonder if missing that plane played a role. 90% of life is just showing up.

Of course, the other 10% might be not being more immobile than my grandmother.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dsf on October 09, 2018, 03:43:16 pm
Why? So we can rotate QBís to week 4 again?
No, because KB is vastly over rated!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 09, 2018, 03:52:50 pm
No, because KB is vastly over rated!

Maybe, but Kelly Bryant would take every major snap here next year because he is that much of a better fit/player than what we currently have
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 09, 2018, 04:05:28 pm
No they drafted Lamar Jackson and also have RG3, so pretty much the polar opposite of Mallet.
He had a good run though.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HotlantaHog on October 09, 2018, 04:20:14 pm
Kelly Bryant would fit into CM's system and does not have a super large ego -- he would fit into Arkansas without being a disruption on the team or causing chemistry problems with the team.

Arkansas would be a good fit for him, and he would lift up the CM offense immediately.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 09, 2018, 04:30:03 pm
Maybe, but Kelly Bryant would take every major snap here next year because he is that much of a better fit/player than what we currently have
CN and JSJ say hi.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 09, 2018, 04:43:32 pm
CN and JSJ say hi.

From the bench....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 09, 2018, 04:47:07 pm
From the bench....

Hahahaha more like from the bullpen and the bench
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 09, 2018, 05:04:38 pm
Hahahaha more like from the bullpen and the bench

Yeah, I almost said from the diamond and from the owner's box at AT&T stadium... Decided simpler was better....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 09, 2018, 05:08:19 pm
From the bench....

Robert? That you?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 09, 2018, 05:14:54 pm
Robert? That you?

Who the hell is Robert?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GA reddiehog on October 09, 2018, 06:39:57 pm
Does anyone know what the change of plan is for KJ?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wpstexan on October 09, 2018, 06:41:04 pm
Does anyone know what the change of plan is for KJ?
KJ enrolling in January
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 09, 2018, 07:26:12 pm
CN and JSJ say hi.

Lol. Donít hold your breath
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogFoo on October 09, 2018, 07:32:34 pm
Kelly Bryant would fit into CM's system and does not have a super large ego -- he would fit into Arkansas without being a disruption on the team or causing chemistry problems with the team.

Arkansas would be a good fit for him, and he would lift up the CM offense immediately.
id have to agree with this. KB would know the system very well!  Plus, let's say you throw in the top WR class we've ever got for KB to play catch with, and  there ya go.  On par for an instant improvement.  but who knows, maybe Storey just keeps getting better and better as the season goes and it wouldnt matter if KB came here or not.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sickboy on October 09, 2018, 07:44:58 pm
Should Bryant decide to go to Arkansas, you guys need to realize he isn't going to come in and immediately make us a playoff contender. Don't look for him to be the missing piece, because we have a lot of growing to do before we're one piece away.

Bottom line: Bryant gives us a dimension we currently don't have in this offense and that's a true running QB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 247Hog on October 09, 2018, 08:01:05 pm
Should Bryant decide to go to Arkansas, you guys need to realize he isn't going to come in and immediately make us a playoff contender. Don't look for him to be the missing piece, because we have a lot of growing to do before we're one piece away.

Bottom line: Bryant gives us a dimension we currently don't have in this offense and that's a true running QB.

I would have to say 95% of our fans don't believe he alone would send us to the playoffs next season but would definitely help us get there faster with him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 09, 2018, 08:22:26 pm
Should Bryant decide to go to Arkansas, you guys need to realize he isn't going to come in and immediately make us a playoff contender. Don't look for him to be the missing piece, because we have a lot of growing to do before we're one piece away.

Bottom line: Bryant gives us a dimension we currently don't have in this offense and that's a true running QB.

For me I just would like to see us get back to a bowl next season, he would be a great bridge to Noland, JSJ, or KJ, and going to a bowl will keep the recruiting momentum going in 2020.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 09, 2018, 08:27:40 pm
BTW I am open to Storey continuing to improve and lock up the job for next season. If not I hope Bryant comes in for a year, but no one should cry for Storey regardless because he is getting to live the dream by being the starting QB for the Razorbacks and get a masters for free.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 09, 2018, 08:36:19 pm
For me I just would like to see us get back to a bowl next season, he would be a great bridge to Noland, JSJ, or KJ, and going to a bowl will keep the recruiting momentum going in 2020.

Agreed. With our scheduling next season we should easily make a bowl game
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 09, 2018, 08:43:36 pm
Agreed. With our scheduling next season we should easily make a bowl game
Hah, thats what yall said last year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: SooieGeneris on October 10, 2018, 02:11:20 am
Bryant going to Auburn would be silly if Stidham sticks around. Why wouldn't he, he is not exactly lighting up the scoreboard this season? He would be a late round pick at best, maybe just a camp arm UFA..

Since Hooten left the coaching ranks, Gus is the new QB Killa.. Yes, he can take a Chris Todd and make a decent QB out of a marginal player.

Yes, he took a DB who transferred from UGA who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat as a passer and lucked his way into the NCG. Think that will ever happen again?

Gus lucked into Cam for one year but Newton had already been tutored by Suburban Liar and Mullen for two years at UF, and he was like a man among boys that year.

Gus can not develop a QB out of HS. That is proven! Jeremy Johnson or whatever his name was looked All World for a half vs Bert's "defense" then steadily declined. Frazier was a 5 star USA Today POY, wound up playing safety before leaving for Henderson or Ouachita..

Gus has had several 4 star QBs, had Mustain as a 5 in HS. How did any of them do in college? His QB resume is... Newton for one year and a bunch of journeymen like Todd and guys like Sean White and Marshall who played slightly above their limited abilities as passers.

The New QB Killa. The longer he coaches in college, the more Nutt-like he gets.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on October 10, 2018, 05:42:49 am
Think we best stick with storey..

I have never thought he'd make it, but the last couple of weeks he's impressed.. if not for a couple of fumbles, he'd be doing awesome.. clean it up and get some W's... KB would only be icing on the cake, if TS gets better and still hangs around, QB should not be the problem next year and that's a good starting point..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on October 10, 2018, 06:57:13 am
Iíd take him, not even a flinch. loyalty in NCAA is a joke. Fans want it from the players, but will throw you out for the next stud recruit. Come on down KB.

Fans need to be loyal! NCAA is worthless if your Bama or OU etc you  don't have anything to worry about when it comes to breaking rules.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Been10Hog on October 10, 2018, 07:53:02 am
He had a good run though.
I know what you meant, but just kinda funny to see Mallett's name in the same sentence with Lamar Jackson, RG3 and "run"  ;D
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Deep Shoat on October 10, 2018, 09:21:00 am
Hearing we are one of four schools with a shot. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Corkscrew Johnson on October 10, 2018, 12:36:03 pm
It's a double standard to hold the coach entirely accountable for wins & losses, and then demand a certain QB be given the starting job because of some pre-justified reason.  Ty is a feel good story because he's from arkansas, put in his time, taken some licks, said all the right things, and we seem to be pointed in the right direction.  But if he isn't the best QB we have on the roster, he shouldn't start. 

I would advocate getting all the damn talent we possibly can on board, and then let the chips fall where they may.  If it's Ty, that is great.  If it's not, it's also great.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hawginj on October 10, 2018, 03:36:43 pm
Bryant going to Auburn would be silly if Stidham sticks around. Why wouldn't he, he is not exactly lighting up the scoreboard this season? He would be a late round pick at best, maybe just a camp arm UFA..

Since Hooten left the coaching ranks, Gus is the new QB Killa.. Yes, he can take a Chris Todd and make a decent QB out of a marginal player.

Yes, he took a DB who transferred from UGA who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat as a passer and lucked his way into the NCG. Think that will ever happen again?

Gus lucked into Cam for one year but Newton had already been tutored by Suburban Liar and Mullen for two years at UF, and he was like a man among boys that year.

Gus can not develop a QB out of HS. That is proven! Jeremy Johnson or whatever his name was looked All World for a half vs Bert's "defense" then steadily declined. Frazier was a 5 star USA Today POY, wound up playing safety before leaving for Henderson or Ouachita..

Gus has had several 4 star QBs, had Mustain as a 5 in HS. How did any of them do in college? His QB resume is... Newton for one year and a bunch of journeymen like Todd and guys like Sean White and Marshall who played slightly above their limited abilities as passers.

The New QB Killa. The longer he coaches in college, the more Nutt-like he gets.
   
The Truth but be careful the CoG won't like this!!!! Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawganatic on October 10, 2018, 03:42:29 pm
Should Bryant decide to go to Arkansas, you guys need to realize he isn't going to come in and immediately make us a playoff contender. Don't look for him to be the missing piece, because we have a lot of growing to do before we're one piece away.

Bottom line: Bryant gives us a dimension we currently don't have in this offense and that's a true running QB.

Who said anything about being a playoff contender? 

What it will do though is speed up the rebuilding process.  Morris needs a quarterback that can run his system the it shold be ran so he can showcase that to recruits.  That is the value of bringing Bryant in.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawg1221 on October 10, 2018, 03:59:10 pm
Who said anything about being a playoff contender? 

What it will do though is speed up the rebuilding process.  Morris needs a quarterback that can run his system the it shold be ran so he can showcase that to recruits.  That is the value of bringing Bryant in.

This is the best reason for having him. He will speed up the process of change.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on October 10, 2018, 04:04:06 pm
Bryant will do what is in his best interest, not sure coming here does that.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 10, 2018, 07:24:17 pm
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Kelly-Bryant-Transfer-Clemson-QB-UNC-Football-Visit-123130997/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true

UNC his first visit
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 10, 2018, 07:43:22 pm
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Kelly-Bryant-Transfer-Clemson-QB-UNC-Football-Visit-123130997/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true

UNC his first visit

Uh oh
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on October 10, 2018, 08:03:09 pm
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Kelly-Bryant-Transfer-Clemson-QB-UNC-Football-Visit-123130997/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true

UNC his first visit

Disgusting
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: onebadrubi on October 10, 2018, 08:05:35 pm
Well, since Alabama had to utilize holding onto our defensive linemen, then how are they going to block a Clemson defensive line that has 4 probable NFL 1st Round draft picks?

Also, it is looking like Venables is getting his Secondary to be solid.

Because they shut down the monster of Wake Forrest? 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 10, 2018, 08:15:48 pm
Who said anything about being a playoff contender? 

What it will do though is speed up the rebuilding process.  Morris needs a quarterback that can run his system the it shold be ran so he can showcase that to recruits.  That is the value of bringing Bryant in.
I agree, but a not sure CN with a years experience doesnt provide the same thing.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wpstexan on October 10, 2018, 08:22:52 pm
Why would he even consider UNC?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: presidenthog on October 10, 2018, 08:36:25 pm
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Kelly-Bryant-Transfer-Clemson-QB-UNC-Football-Visit-123130997/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true

UNC his first visit

Everyone freaking out about this is dumb. We are playing at WMS.

He will visit us when we play in fayettville. Either in the next 2 weeks, or vs LSU.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 10, 2018, 08:42:06 pm
Everyone freaking out about this is dumb. We are playing at WMS.

He will visit us when we play in fayettville. Either in the next 2 weeks, or vs LSU.

Honestly, Iím not freaking out. Iím just building up suspense. This is his first visit. Heíll take about 5, Iím down for the hogs being his last one
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: plumbhog on October 10, 2018, 08:47:00 pm
It really doesn't matter now. Story has claimed the starting job and continues to improve. Story will be the starting QB next year and neither Bryant nor any of the youngsters will take it take it from him now.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 10, 2018, 08:48:18 pm
It really doesn't matter now. Story has claimed the starting job and continues to improve. Story will be the starting QB next year and neither Bryant nor any of the youngsters will take it take it from him now.

Iíll need to see a few wins first
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: presidenthog on October 10, 2018, 08:50:55 pm
It really doesn't matter now. Story has claimed the starting job and continues to improve. Story will be the starting QB next year and neither Bryant nor any of the youngsters will take it take it from him now.

I do get the sense that the team has rallied around ty, but that doesnt mean anything as far as BK is concerned. If he thinks he can beat him out he will come.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: plumbhog on October 10, 2018, 08:57:14 pm
I do get the sense that the team has rallied around ty, but that doesnt mean anything as far as BK is concerned. If he thinks he can beat him out he will come.
I agree, but with him taking the rest of the year off and Ty continuing to improve I just don't think Bryant can come in and beat him out of the starting job. By the time this year is over I believe we will see why Ty was so highly rated and could have gone just about anywhere he wanted. All he needed was to get back in the game, he's only going to get better now.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 10, 2018, 09:15:12 pm
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Kelly-Bryant-Transfer-Clemson-QB-UNC-Football-Visit-123130997/Amp/?__twitter_impression=true

UNC his first visit
They do pay pretty well. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 10, 2018, 09:29:30 pm
Arkansas is playing with about 30% of the Offense according to CM. I believe Bryant is a better fit with the overall Offense. With that opinion out there, I truly like Storeys grit and determination. Storey has the Opportunity to improve and take charge over the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 10, 2018, 09:43:50 pm
Why would he even consider UNC?

Because itís close to home
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Tarheelhawg on October 10, 2018, 09:53:42 pm
Will it be as easy for him to pick up UNC's offensive system?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 11, 2018, 09:57:26 am
No, because KB is vastly over rated!
wait- What's over rated? His 3 * 247 rating coming out of high school (too low imo), or his 132 career QB rating including 67% completion rate and 12-2 record?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 11, 2018, 09:59:54 am
I would have to say 95% of our fans don't believe he alone would send us to the playoffs next season but would definitely help us get there faster with him.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SinfulReasonableHyracotherium-small.gif)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 11, 2018, 10:03:21 am
It really doesn't matter now. Story has claimed the starting job and continues to improve. Story will be the starting QB next year and neither Bryant nor any of the youngsters will take it take it from him now.
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/rdlol.gif)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Davidr295 on October 11, 2018, 10:08:08 am
It really doesn't matter now. Story has claimed the starting job and continues to improve. Story will be the starting QB next year and neither Bryant nor any of the youngsters will take it take it from him now.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dalefromspringdale on October 11, 2018, 12:57:31 pm
KB is visiting us during the LSU or Tulsa game.

-insiders
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dalefromspringdale on October 11, 2018, 01:19:23 pm
Tulsa. Just confirmed on Rivals.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on October 11, 2018, 01:19:30 pm

Woody Wommack
‏Verified account @RivalsWoody
7m7 minutes ago

Former Clemson quarterback Kelly Bryant, who will unofficially visit North Carolina this weekend, tells me he has set an official visit to Arkansas for Oct. 20.

Missouri and Louisville are among the other programs working to host Bryant for an official
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wpstexan on October 11, 2018, 01:20:51 pm
I am pretty confident that we can beat out Mizzou, Louisville, and UNC for Bryant
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 11, 2018, 01:28:23 pm
   
The Truth but be careful the CoG won't like this!!!! Go Hogs!

You are still the only person on here that uses CoG. And I think you're still the only person that knows what it means.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: navyhog24 on October 11, 2018, 01:28:28 pm
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Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 11, 2018, 01:28:44 pm
I think we lock Bryant in after his visit next weekend! Exciting time to be a hog fan
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 11, 2018, 01:30:01 pm
I think we lock Bryant in after his visit next weekend! Exciting time to be a hog fan
it just keeps seeming more and more likely.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 11, 2018, 01:30:05 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/a8GOUGGMCOSIM/giphy.gif)

It is, been saying it for weeks
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 247Hog on October 11, 2018, 01:34:26 pm
Only school mentioned so far that i worry about is Louisville. He can see what Lamar Jackson did there and also he would get the chance to play Clemson at least once. I would be he would love that opportunity.

Hope end the of the day, we will be able to get him here. Need huge turnout for the Tulsa game to not only show him some love but show this team some love for buying in and giving 100% after week 3.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 11, 2018, 01:37:30 pm
We need to hang some points on Tulsa! Iím so pumped! There are plenty of people who doubted that we were even in the mix 😂
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HoGs1031 on October 11, 2018, 01:38:35 pm
I am pretty confident that we can beat out Mizzou, Louisville, and UNC for Bryant

Why are you certain about that? UNC and Louisville both have had a QB taking in the First round. UNC #2 overall, Louisville #32 and a Heisman winner, and Mizzou has a potentially first rounder this year in Lock.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 11, 2018, 01:40:05 pm
Why are you certain about that? UNC and Louisville both have had a QB taking in the First round. UNC #2 overall, Louisville #32 and a Heisman winner, and Mizzou has a potentially first rounder this year in Lock.

He knows CMís playbook. Itís pretty much done once he gets on campus. Morris has shown he can easily get talent when they get on campus
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 11, 2018, 01:40:55 pm
This thread is starting to remind me of some of the classic Norvell coaching search threads.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 11, 2018, 01:41:52 pm
Why are you certain about that? UNC and Louisville both have had a QB taking in the First round. UNC #2 overall, Louisville #32 and a Heisman winner, and Mizzou has a potentially first rounder this year in Lock.

That is there yes, but we have THE relationship (Morris recruited him to Clemson) and the offense that most resembles what he knows.

EDIT: I feel like the biggest competition of the named teams is Louisville and they already have a good young QB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The_Iceman on October 11, 2018, 01:43:43 pm
QB - Bryant
RB - Boyd, Whaley, Hayden, Hammonds
WR - Burks / Pettway / Coleman
WR - Woods / Nash / Jones
WR - Knox / K.Jackson / Warren
TE - O'Grady / Henry

Dang...that offense will be EXPLOSIVE!

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 11, 2018, 01:44:23 pm
This thread is starting to remind me of some of the classic Norvell coaching search threads.

My man still thinks we'll get him......
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 11, 2018, 01:44:36 pm
QB - Bryant
RB - Boyd, Whaley, Hayden, Hammonds
WR - Burks / Pettway / Coleman
WR - Woods / Nash / Jones
WR - Knox / K.Jackson / Warren
TE - O'Grady / Henry

Dang...that offense will be EXPLOSIVE!

Easily make a bowl game next year if we lock in KB
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 247Hog on October 11, 2018, 01:45:55 pm
Louisville keeps losing, the stadium will be empty when he visits them.

Anyone else notice this was released after Henry declared his commitment? This was probably setup a week ago and the staff wanted to make sure Henry was able to have his moment.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 11, 2018, 01:46:40 pm
Why are you certain about that? UNC and Louisville both have had a QB taking in the First round. UNC #2 overall, Louisville #32 and a Heisman winner, and Mizzou has a potentially first rounder this year in Lock.

Pretty confident =/= certain

Do you know who Morris is?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The_Iceman on October 11, 2018, 01:47:51 pm
Easily make a bowl game next year if we lock in KB

Yeah, bowl game would be bare minimum.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The_Iceman on October 11, 2018, 01:49:23 pm
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: justmakeit2thebcs on October 11, 2018, 01:55:51 pm
QB - Bryant
RB - Boyd, Whaley, Hayden, Hammonds
WR - Burks / Pettway / Coleman
WR - Woods / Nash / Jones
WR - Knox / K.Jackson / Warren
TE - O'Grady / Henry

Dang...that offense will be EXPLOSIVE!


Are we switching to 7 on 7?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 11, 2018, 01:59:42 pm
This thread is starting to remind me of some of the classic Norvell coaching search threads.


Pop dem bottles baw
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 11, 2018, 02:00:53 pm
My man still thinks we'll get him......



Norvell? Hahaha
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rzrbk4life on October 11, 2018, 02:02:22 pm

Pop dem bottles baw

Beat me to it! PiP if we sign Bryant are we poppin bottles?!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: STLhawg on October 11, 2018, 02:02:30 pm
QB - Bryant
RB - Boyd, Whaley, Hayden, Hammonds
WR - Burks / Pettway / Coleman
WR - Woods / Nash / Jones
WR - Knox / K.Jackson / Warren
TE - O'Grady / Henry

Dang...that offense will be EXPLOSIVE!
While that looks really nice, it is the o-line that worries me!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: daprospecta on October 11, 2018, 02:03:24 pm
Are we switching to 7 on 7?
I believe our defense will be much improved next year. Do we need to talk about it further?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on October 11, 2018, 02:04:59 pm
He was originally supposed to visit last weekend.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The_Iceman on October 11, 2018, 02:06:11 pm
While that looks really nice, it is the o-line that worries me!


I agree. However, with some JUCO additions and the growth and improvement of some of the young guys, I could see the line actually being decent next year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: justmakeit2thebcs on October 11, 2018, 02:09:06 pm
I believe our defense will be much improved next year. Do we need to talk about it further?
The 7 on 7 comment was referring to no OL
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The_Iceman on October 11, 2018, 02:12:53 pm
The 7 on 7 comment was referring to no OL

Hard to predict the OL next year with likely 2 more Juco OL additions to the class.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Big Nasty 34 on October 11, 2018, 02:13:32 pm
You've gotta like Arkansas' chances. If you're KB and you aren't most likely going to the NFL, then you probably want to go play for a national championship. Since these teams don't seem to be in those positions, gotta think the Morris connection will win out.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigsknuckles on October 11, 2018, 02:16:29 pm
You are still the only person on here that uses CoG. And I think you're still the only person that knows what it means.

Saw that post earlier. Have no clue what CoG means apart from Center of Gravity.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: daprospecta on October 11, 2018, 02:20:03 pm
You've gotta like Arkansas' chances. If you're KB and you aren't most likely going to the NFL, then you probably want to go play for a national championship. Since these teams don't seem to be in those positions, gotta think the Morris connection will win out.
I keep hearing people say this but I certainly didn't think Tyrod Taylor, Chad Kelly, Brandon Allen, Matt Flynn etc would make the NFL but sure enough, they did.  I think if he has a solid year, he will get a shot and then moved to WR if it didn't work out.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: woodhog14 on October 11, 2018, 02:32:00 pm
He was originally supposed to visit last weekend.
Wonder why he didn't?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hawginj on October 11, 2018, 02:39:16 pm
You are still the only person on here that uses CoG. And I think you're still the only person that knows what it means.
And I am perfectly fine with that!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on October 11, 2018, 02:42:01 pm
Wonder why he didn't?
https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/Clemson-transfer-Kelly-Bryant-to-visit-Arkansas-122522100/
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 11, 2018, 02:44:48 pm
And I am perfectly fine with that!

I'm beginning to think it doesn't actually mean anything. I've asked before what it means and I've seen others ask... But no one has ever clarified.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: a0ashle on October 11, 2018, 02:45:37 pm
I think heís ours to lose because of CCM. I think he wants to be sure but if we show him what he is looking for, heíll be here next year.

An aspect of this that I havenít seen mentioned... this pretty much confirms that CCM has interest in KB. It was expected but now confirmed.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Karma on October 11, 2018, 02:46:02 pm
https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/Clemson-transfer-Kelly-Bryant-to-visit-Arkansas-122522100/
He didn't come to the Bama game because it was an 11 a.m. start and he has to leave Saturday morning. And then Tulsa was scheduled for 11 a.m. too. Hopefully Bryant can stay later on that weekend.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on October 11, 2018, 02:47:23 pm
I'm beginning to think it doesn't actually mean anything. I've asked before what it means and I've seen others ask... But no one has ever clarified.
I think it means Cult of Gus.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PetrinoFan on October 11, 2018, 02:47:41 pm
You guys havenít thought for once that with this lineup, we will command Oline recruits. I bet we get a few top JUCO Olinemen that want to play with these studs.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hawginj on October 11, 2018, 02:47:54 pm
I'm beginning to think it doesn't actually mean anything. I've asked before what it means and I've seen others ask... But no one has ever clarified.
Cult of Gus is what it means.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 11, 2018, 02:48:25 pm
And I am perfectly fine with that!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/cheMPA1InqKc0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 11, 2018, 02:49:29 pm
I think it means Cult of Gus.

Maybe that's it. I guessed Child of Gus (as a backhanded nickname for Morris) in the past but that doesn't always make sense so I scratched that one.

My next best guess was that maybe it meant Cousin of Guvhog...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hawginj on October 11, 2018, 02:49:41 pm
I'm beginning to think it doesn't actually mean anything. I've asked before what it means and I've seen others ask... But no one has ever clarified.
i apologize for not see where you have asked.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hawginj on October 11, 2018, 02:50:53 pm
Maybe that's it. I guessed Child of Gus (as a backhanded nickname for Morris) in the past but that doesn't always make sense so I scratched that one.

My next best guess was that maybe it meant Cousin of Guvhog...
  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HAWG MAFIA on October 11, 2018, 02:54:35 pm
This thread is starting to remind me of some of the classic Norvell coaching search threads.
and DBG
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Fan1958 on October 11, 2018, 03:00:10 pm
I'm beginning to think it doesn't actually mean anything. I've asked before what it means and I've seen others ask... But no one has ever clarified.

Well the internet is your friend so doing a little research I discovered CoG COULD mean the following:

Communion of Gurhal
Congress of Gamers
Cluster of Orthologous Groups

or my favorite Club Omnisports Gargenville (French sports club)

Take your pick.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 11, 2018, 03:04:15 pm
Well the internet is your friend so doing a little research I discovered CoG COULD mean the following:

Communion of Gurhal
Congress of Gamers
Cluster of Orthologous Groups

or my favorite Club Omnisports Gargenville (French sports club)

Take your pick.

Are you searching with your safe search on or off? I'm at work... Don't want to get myself fired just trying to figure this out.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 11, 2018, 03:07:19 pm
Saw that post earlier. Have no clue what CoG means apart from Center of Gravity.
Crusty old guys i think.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 11, 2018, 03:10:40 pm
All we need is PIP to tell us to pop dem bottles.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Fan1958 on October 11, 2018, 03:37:40 pm
Are you searching with your safe search on or off? I'm at work... Don't want to get myself fired just trying to figure this out.

I work from home and don't have a "safe search" protocol but any NSFW site is automatically blocked.  That didn't happen when I searched for "CoG".
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogcore on October 11, 2018, 03:47:58 pm
Need to pack the house for KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 11, 2018, 03:54:29 pm
Need to pack the house for KB.

I doubt that he expects the house to be packed, much less for Tulsa
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: kp72204 on October 11, 2018, 03:57:08 pm
I am pretty confident that we can beat out Mizzou, Louisville, and UNC for Bryant
I was pretty confident we could beat Mizzou on the field last couple of years, but guess what!!! However, i really feel confident we'll start soon (like really soon).
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: kp72204 on October 11, 2018, 04:00:04 pm
QB - Bryant
RB - Boyd, Whaley, Hayden, Hammonds
WR - Burks / Pettway / Coleman
WR - Woods / Nash / Jones
WR - Knox / K.Jackson / Warren
TE - O'Grady / Henry

Dang...that offense will be EXPLOSIVE!
Please show me the offensive line with that. I'm trying to temper my excitement.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Silent on October 11, 2018, 04:32:17 pm
My man still thinks we'll get him......

Possible OC? 🤔
Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on October 11, 2018, 06:03:06 pm
https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/10/former_clemson_qb_kelly_bryant.html
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DavidÜ on October 11, 2018, 06:36:40 pm
You are still the only person on here that uses CoG. And I think you're still the only person that knows what it means.

cult of Gus
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigcrazy on October 11, 2018, 06:52:10 pm
Bryant isnít going to Louisville. Who knows who their coach will be at this point. Same goes with North Carolina.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 11, 2018, 08:13:38 pm
Bryant isnít going to Louisville. Who knows who their coach will be at this point. Same goes with North Carolina.

I wouldn't be surprised if Auburn comes calling at some point. That's why getting this first OV might do the trick.
Title: Bryant Visit
Post by: LRhawg926 on October 12, 2018, 09:07:13 am
No matter the outcome Saturday, fans need to be in the seats vs. Tulsa. If anything, to show Kelley Bryant a glimpse of what Arkansas can be. You won't impress anyone with empty seats in a beautiful stadium.
Title: Re: Bryant Visit
Post by: FutureMan on October 12, 2018, 09:13:26 am
I'll be there.  Going with my brother who is a TU grad.  It was pretty cool when I learned yesterday that Bryant was going to be at the same game.

Hopefully we have a great showing on the field and a lot of fan support in the stadium.
Title: Re: Bryant Visit
Post by: allredhog on October 12, 2018, 09:31:44 am
Not that I am worried about UNC, Bleacher report is reporting-ďFormer Clemson quarterback Kelly Bryant is reportedly planning a visit with the North Carolina Tar Heels this weekend as he pursues a new opportunity on the transfer market, according to Inside Carolina's Greg Barnes.Ē

And my family and will be in attendance as we always are!  Go HOGS!!
Title: Re: Bryant Visit
Post by: Grizzlyfan on October 12, 2018, 09:37:14 am
Nothing like a weak non-con game in the heart of the season to bring out the masses.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 12, 2018, 09:39:55 am
It's between us and Auburn. That's what I hear. Don't know how it'll shake out, but whatever Jared Stidham does at the end of this season will probably play a part. Supposedly he's on the fence if he's going to head to the NFL draft after this year.
Stidham has gotten worse every year since his breakout freshman year at Baylor. Last year he had a stud RB and line that forced the other team to play 8 in the box. This year teams are playing the pass more and his percentage is around 60 percent. No way he goes high in this draft
Title: Re: Bryant Visit
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 12, 2018, 09:52:06 am
Nothing like a weak non-con game in the heart of the season to bring out the masses.
It's one of our last winnable games. Get out and enjoy a possible win while you can
Title: Re: Bryant Visit
Post by: 010HogFan on October 12, 2018, 09:53:24 am
It's one of our last winnable games. Get out and enjoy a possible win while you can

Huh? I think we have a chance in every game left outside of maybe LSU
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dsf on October 12, 2018, 09:56:45 am
QB - Bryant
RB - Boyd, Whaley, Hayden, Hammonds
WR - Burks / Pettway / Coleman
WR - Woods / Nash / Jones
WR - Knox / K.Jackson / Warren
TE - O'Grady / Henry

Dang...that offense will be EXPLOSIVE!


Problem is his 67% completion rate is 90% flare passes to the backs or wideouts.  I don't believe he can get the ball to the studs.  If he were as good as most on here think he is, why isn't he playing ahead of a raw, talented frosh at Clemson?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on October 12, 2018, 10:25:16 am
Even if Bryant and Kelly are equal in everything... their is one thing that they absolutely arent equal at and thats running the football. So if Ty isnt a lot  better passer than I dont see how anyone wouldnt want Bryant.
Title: Re: Bryant Visit
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 12, 2018, 10:34:15 am
Huh? I think we have a chance in every game left outside of maybe LSU
Well maybe things will turn freezing in Fayetteville like they did back several years ago. I well remember that fact that the Tigers only wanted to huddle around the sideline warmers. They looked miserable and ready to head back to the bayou as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 12, 2018, 11:07:43 am
You can analyze this to death from every angle, but it really boils down to one salient point in my mind. 

Is Chad Morris willing to potentially upset the apple cart by bringing in a grad transfer with the hope of winning a few more games next season, at best, when he has just started to get buy in from the players? 

Every upper classmen is just a stud Fr. away from riding the pine.  I'm not sure how bringing in a grad transfer or a stud JC player is any different, if they come in and displace the people who have been with the program for awhile.  When you look at it objectively, in some ways it would speak to the faith that CCM would be able to instill in Kelly Bryant that he could come in, make a difference, and potentially make it to the NFL. 

I don't see the downside, if you are serious about setting up a culture where you are going to play the kids who give you the best chance to win...period.  Forget seniority, legacy, and all of those factors...just field the best 22 regardless, provided they are all following the rules and doing their jobs.  From that perspective, I don't see how you complain as a player.  I think the issues start when players feel coaches are "playing favorites," because the players know who the best players are, and when they're not on the field, THAT is what causes dissention faster than anything else.   

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Michael D Huff AIA on October 12, 2018, 11:08:15 am
2017 QBR from SEC QB's

#6     Jake Fromm  @ GA. - 84.1
#7     Jalen Hurts @ ALA. - 83.4
#10    Danny Etling @ LSU - 80.8
#14    Nick Fitzgerald @ MSST - 78.5
#17    Kelly Bryant  @ Clemson    TOTAL QBR = 77.6
#20    Drew Lock @ MIZ - 74.4
#25    Jordan Ta'amu @ MISS - 72.8
#39    Jarrett Stidham @ AUB - 67.2
#43    Stephen Johnson @ UK - 66.3
#45    Jake Bentley @ SC - 65.1

Drafted QB's from that year -

#1 Baker Mayfield @ OU - 92.3
#3 Mason Rudolph @OSU - 86.7
#4 Lamar Jackson @ LOU - 85.4
#24 Sam Darnold @ USC - 73.2
#48 Josh Rosen @ UCLA - 64.1
#58 Josh Allen @ WYO - 60.1








Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 12, 2018, 11:13:19 am
2017 QBR from SEC QB's

#6     Jake Fromm  @ GA. - 84.1
#7     Jalen Hurts @ ALA. - 83.4
#10    Danny Etling @ LSU - 80.8
#14    Nick Fitzgerald @ MSST - 78.5
#17    Kelly Bryant  @ Clemson    TOTAL QBR = 77.6
#20    Drew Lock @ MIZ - 74.4
#25    Jordan Ta'amu @ MISS - 72.8
#39    Jarrett Stidham @ AUB - 67.2
#43    Stephen Johnson @ UK - 66.3
#45    Jake Bentley @ SC - 65.1

Drafted QB's from that year -

#1 Baker Mayfield @ OU - 92.3
#3 Mason Rudolph @OSU - 86.7
#4 Lamar Jackson @ LOU - 85.4
#24 Sam Darnold @ USC - 73.2
#48 Josh Rosen @ UCLA - 64.1
#58 Josh Allen @ WYO - 60.1

Pretty compelling story, BUT it is worth noting that it matters who you have around you...which explains a lot with regard to Rosen and Allen's numbers, versus the receivers Bryant has to throw to. 

If Bryant comes in, I think it sends a message that CCM is committed to WINNING.  Not to coddling players, or worrying about hurting feelings.  It's still early enough that if that offends some players, then maybe they're not the ones you want on the field that are committed 100% to winning.  In this offense, even with Bryant, you're ONE play away from a second string QB being "the man."  We just saw how true that can be at Clemson with a close call to a season or career ending play.   
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Michael D Huff AIA on October 12, 2018, 11:33:57 am
Pretty compelling story, BUT it is worth noting that it matters who you have around you...which explains a lot with regard to Rosen and Allen's numbers, versus the receivers Bryant has to throw to. 

If Bryant comes in, I think it sends a message that CCM is committed to WINNING.  Not to coddling players, or worrying about hurting feelings.  It's still early enough that if that offends some players, then maybe they're not the ones you want on the field that are committed 100% to winning.  In this offense, even with Bryant, you're ONE play away from a second string QB being "the man."  We just saw how true that can be at Clemson with a close call to a season or career ending play.

It undoubtedly matters who you have around a QB.  I also think that a talent like Bryant would be a great teaching tool for the younger QB's on the roster given he would only be there for one season.  Over those games he would mentor and break in the new WR's that are on the way.  I would consider CCM's rebuilding process to be in effect this season AND next season, so if we are rebuilding, why not make the job easier, both for the 'now' and the future? 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Been10Hog on October 12, 2018, 11:46:08 am
Only school mentioned so far that i worry about is Louisville. He can see what Lamar Jackson did there and also he would get the chance to play Clemson at least once. I would be he would love that opportunity.

Hope end the of the day, we will be able to get him here. Need huge turnout for the Tulsa game to not only show him some love but show this team some love for buying in and giving 100% after week 3.
Only thing about Louisville is that he would have to learn Petrino's complicated sdchemes. He knows our offense! Morris installed the offense at Clemson and when he left they kept it with the same terminology. No brainer. Literally!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 12, 2018, 04:31:34 pm
You can analyze this to death from every angle, but it really boils down to one salient point in my mind. 

Is Chad Morris willing to potentially upset the apple cart by bringing in a grad transfer with the hope of winning a few more games next season, at best, when he has just started to get buy in from the players? 

Every upper classmen is just a stud Fr. away from riding the pine.  I'm not sure how bringing in a grad transfer or a stud JC player is any different, if they come in and displace the people who have been with the program for awhile.  When you look at it objectively, in some ways it would speak to the faith that CCM would be able to instill in Kelly Bryant that he could come in, make a difference, and potentially make it to the NFL. 

I don't see the downside, if you are serious about setting up a culture where you are going to play the kids who give you the best chance to win...period.  Forget seniority, legacy, and all of those factors...just field the best 22 regardless, provided they are all following the rules and doing their jobs.  From that perspective, I don't see how you complain as a player.  I think the issues start when players feel coaches are "playing favorites," because the players know who the best players are, and when they're not on the field, THAT is what causes dissention faster than anything else.   

It could be very productive to have Ty and KB to support each other since the RPO can get your QB beat up.   If I am KB I want to play a lot, show leadership after the PR issue of leaving Clemson and be very productive for NFL scouts.   The best way to play at an optimal level is to walk into an offense you already KNOW.   How many transfers come in and take 1/2 a season or more to learn the scheme and terminology to even play?   KB can be productive in Spring practice because of his comfort level.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 12, 2018, 06:57:21 pm
Me likey.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/brett-mcmurphy-predicts-kelly-bryant-will-transfer-to-arkansas-says-it-makes-the-most-sense/amp/
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hawgman on October 12, 2018, 07:08:57 pm
You can analyze this to death from every angle, but it really boils down to one salient point in my mind. 

Is Chad Morris willing to potentially upset the apple cart by bringing in a grad transfer with the hope of winning a few more games next season, at best, when he has just started to get buy in from the players? 

Every upper classmen is just a stud Fr. away from riding the pine.  I'm not sure how bringing in a grad transfer or a stud JC player is any different, if they come in and displace the people who have been with the program for awhile.  When you look at it objectively, in some ways it would speak to the faith that CCM would be able to instill in Kelly Bryant that he could come in, make a difference, and potentially make it to the NFL. 

I don't see the downside, if you are serious about setting up a culture where you are going to play the kids who give you the best chance to win...period.  Forget seniority, legacy, and all of those factors...just field the best 22 regardless, provided they are all following the rules and doing their jobs.  From that perspective, I don't see how you complain as a player.  I think the issues start when players feel coaches are "playing favorites," because the players know who the best players are, and when they're not on the field, THAT is what causes dissention faster than anything else.   
Is that not what Petrino did with Mallet. Mallet came in and I think the younger Dick brother left. Seem to work out pretty good.
Good players want to win and if getting a better QB adds wins the team will support him IMO.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: azhog10 on October 12, 2018, 07:15:03 pm
Is that not what Petrino did with Mallet. Mallet came in and I think the younger Dick brother left. Seem to work out pretty good.
Good players want to win and if getting a better QB adds wins the team will support him IMO.
Or Storey can just beat him out. Storey has this season to build himself up to be able to do that. If he can't, then he needs to go anyways.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsmash12 on October 12, 2018, 07:22:46 pm
Me likey.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/brett-mcmurphy-predicts-kelly-bryant-will-transfer-to-arkansas-says-it-makes-the-most-sense/amp/

Come on down dude!!!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 13, 2018, 09:09:36 am
As far as upsetting the apple cart, it definitely helps if you are bringing in a guy with KB's record and experience.  The record itself gets respect but also the fact that is a 5th year guy and has lead a team should help the transition.

The way you do it is name him the starter from day one.  Let the hurt feelings happen during the off season and spring ball.  It's a non issue by the time the season rolls around.  I would hate it for Ty but I think big picture positives outweigh the negatives. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 14, 2018, 12:02:07 am
Kelly, we need ya baby we need ya. You, Coach Morris, Rakeem, O'Grady, and our young receivers would make a beautiful marriage.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: InHognito on October 14, 2018, 12:34:23 am
Please show me the offensive line with that. I'm trying to temper my excitement.

There isnt one. Expectations tempered
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on October 15, 2018, 12:25:28 pm
Is that not what Petrino did with Mallet. Mallet came in and I think the younger Dick brother left. Seem to work out pretty good.
Good players want to win and if getting a better QB adds wins the team will support him IMO.

Confused by this post.  That's exactly what I said....that the players know when there's a better player not playing, so you're not fooling anyone if you're the coach and playing a lesser talented player for whatever reason.  You lose the team as a coach when you DON'T play the best players, because if they're the right players...they want to win.  If Bryant ends up coming here...you let him compete, prove he's the best, and play him...if he does.  In our particular circumstances, that may weed out some of the players who think seniority matters, because CBB seemed to subscribe to that, but that's just a part of this process.   

But...players and fans don't always know best.  I guarantee you there are still some fans who saw Kelley come and and throw the bomb for a TD right out of the gate, and said..."That's what a strong arm buys you...he should be playing."  Then later in the game, he threw the pick...that killed us.  It's the coaches' job to figure out what gives them the best chance of winning, and it isn't always the player with the best RAW talent, if they make poor decisions or don't give it 100% on every play. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 16, 2018, 10:57:32 am
Confused by this post.  That's exactly what I said....that the players know when there's a better player not playing, so you're not fooling anyone if you're the coach and playing a lesser talented player for whatever reason.  You lose the team as a coach when you DON'T play the best players, because if they're the right players...they want to win.  If Bryant ends up coming here...you let him compete, prove he's the best, and play him...if he does.  In our particular circumstances, that may weed out some of the players who think seniority matters, because CBB seemed to subscribe to that, but that's just a part of this process.   

But...players and fans don't always know best.  I guarantee you there are still some fans who saw Kelley come and and throw the bomb for a TD right out of the gate, and said..."That's what a strong arm buys you...he should be playing."  Then later in the game, he threw the pick...that killed us.  It's the coaches' job to figure out what gives them the best chance of winning, and it isn't always the player with the best RAW talent, if they make poor decisions or don't give it 100% on every play.

Nicely done and spot on.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 16, 2018, 11:45:53 am
Hopefully the Hogs will show up and try to impress KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MemphisBossHog on October 16, 2018, 02:35:16 pm
Sure, we don't have the tools he had at Clemson, but at Arkansas he would be able to run the whole offense. That would accelerate the offensive install and shorten the rebuild by half a season, giving us a better chance to start 2018 strong.

His ability to make plays with his legs would immediately make our offense more productive.

He got fired at Clemson with stats that would have him as the #3 or #4 QB in the SEC.
Trevor Lawrence was/is considered a once in a generation type QB.  Dabo saw that Lawrence could handle the situation and he gave the starting reps to him to get him more experience since he is the future of Clemson football until he leaves to go pro. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Lawrence_(American_football)

KB simply.....well.....got screwed.  In KB's words when this was going down, he didn't feel he had done anything to NOT be the starting QB.  Sometimes you just get beat out by someone who is better or has more upside and that is Trevor Lawrence. 

It would be such a perfect situation for KB to come and teach KJ Jefferson the offense then leave and soph KJ will be all the better for it.  My hope is that KB will want to be a part of building a program and will relish running the offense with the weapons that CCM is recruiting right now.  Sure, the road will be bumpy for him and I can certainly understand if he chooses another program, but by God its time for something good to happen for the Hogs.  Its time that we get that recruit that we weren't supposed to get that starts it all. (Like Ron Huery in basketball for Nolan out of Memphis)  KB coming to Ark would bring more spotlight on the program and get other recruits to think that it was good enough for KB to come there for his last year.  Something must be special up on the Hill.  I hope CCM can pull this off. 

I feel for Ty if KB comes.  But its whats best for the program.  This program needs talent talent talent and KB has talent even if it is just for one year
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Karma on October 16, 2018, 03:37:09 pm
Trevor Lawrence was/is considered a once in a generation type QB.  Dabo saw that Lawrence could handle the situation and he gave the starting reps to him to get him more experience since he is the future of Clemson football until he leaves to go pro. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Lawrence_(American_football)

KB simply.....well.....got screwed.  In KB's words when this was going down, he didn't feel he had done anything to NOT be the starting QB.  Sometimes you just get beat out by someone who is better or has more upside and that is Trevor Lawrence. 

It would be such a perfect situation for KB to come and teach KJ Jefferson the offense then leave and soph KJ will be all the better for it.  My hope is that KB will want to be a part of building a program and will relish running the offense with the weapons that CCM is recruiting right now.  Sure, the road will be bumpy for him and I can certainly understand if he chooses another program, but by God its time for something good to happen for the Hogs.  Its time that we get that recruit that we weren't supposed to get that starts it all. (Like Ron Huery in basketball for Nolan out of Memphis)  KB coming to Ark would bring more spotlight on the program and get other recruits to think that it was good enough for KB to come there for his last year.  Something must be special up on the Hill.  I hope CCM can pull this off. 

I feel for Ty if KB comes.  But its whats best for the program.  This program needs talent talent talent and KB has talent even if it is just for one year
Under your analysis, if KB comes to Arkansas then Ty gets screwed.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 16, 2018, 03:51:13 pm
What if Casey Dick had been a Jr BPs first year and youíve got Ryan Mallett ready to start the next year. Yeah you feel bad for Casey but do you let that in any way influence your decision to start RM?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HotlantaHog on October 16, 2018, 04:16:24 pm
In sum:
1. This is not about TS
2. This is not about KB
3. This is about what is best for Arkansas
4. The coaching staff has evidently decided that bringing in KB would be good for Arkansas or at least that it is worth exploring.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hog of steele on October 16, 2018, 04:25:28 pm
Under your analysis, if KB comes to Arkansas then Ty gets screwed.

I don't think "screwed" is a fair word. But if he loses out to a transfer its a bad deal. Ty has his chance to win the job now. And he will have a chance next year if he doesn't transfer. Thats just how it goes sometimes.

And this is why players should be able to leave. A guy should have a chance to make his name. If Ty gets beat out and wants to go, let him go.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsmash12 on October 17, 2018, 11:03:24 pm
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/kelly-bryant-says-hes-looking-forward-to-seeing-what-arkansas-has-to-offer/amp/
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: bulldog04 on October 18, 2018, 02:20:29 am
What if Casey Dick had been a Jr BPs first year and youíve got Ryan Mallett ready to start the next year. Yeah you feel bad for Casey but do you let that in any way influence your decision to start RM?
Same situation with Nathan. He just went ahead and transferred
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 18, 2018, 07:33:40 am
He sounds like a great guy while on Bo's show.  I like his attitude.  I also like our chances.   He could escalate the program recovery by about 3 years.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 18, 2018, 08:11:14 am
He sounds like a great guy while on Bo's show.  I like his attitude.  I also like our chances.   He could escalate the program recovery by about 3 years.

I think it would help recruiting as well, create some buzz and just provide some much needed hope and positive momentum.  Likely help attendance next year as well. Fans have to do their part and show up for Tulsa game.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MTBrookHog on October 18, 2018, 12:39:00 pm
Is it against NCAA rules for David Williams to contact Bryant?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rzrbk4life on October 18, 2018, 12:45:43 pm
Hope we have someone set up to show him all the sorority houses, Dickson st., you know all the good things in Fayetteville...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawganatic on October 18, 2018, 12:52:16 pm
I think it would help recruiting as well

This is the true value of bringing Bryant in.  Morris will be able to run his full offense with him her and use that as a showcase for recruits.

Bryant won't make us a playoff contender, but he could be what helps bring in the guys that will make us playoff contenders.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RedSkiesAtNightHog on October 18, 2018, 11:24:34 pm
Hope we have someone set up to show him all the sorority houses, Dickson st., you know all the good things in Fayetteville...

I am sure he will get the full red carpet treatment!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on October 19, 2018, 06:06:38 am
Under your analysis, if KB comes to Arkansas then Ty gets screwed.

I don't think Bryant will land at Arkansas, but if he did and he was handed the reins to the offense it would be because he is the better option. Does that mean that Storey gets the short end of the stick? Well maybe but it is no different in life where success or failure is sometimes a matter of being in the right place at the right time or the opposite of that. Storey has every chance to keep his job. Execute better than others competing for that job and he gets to keep his starting position. Every day, every week is a matter of competition.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 19, 2018, 06:51:34 am
I think it would help recruiting as well, create some buzz and just provide some much needed hope and positive momentum.  Likely help attendance next year as well. Fans have to do their part and show up for Tulsa game.

I agree about the recruiting.  It should help our Oline recruiting by attracting some stud JUCO talent.  It could cement our WR and TE commitments.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 19, 2018, 06:53:47 am
I don't think Bryant will land at Arkansas, but if he did and he was handed the reins to the offense it would be because he is the better option. Does that mean that Storey gets the short end of the stick? Well maybe but it is no different in life where success or failure is sometimes a matter of being in the right place at the right time or the opposite of that. Storey has every chance to keep his job. Execute better than others competing for that job and he gets to keep his starting position. Every day, every week is a matter of competition.

He is concerned about DEPTH so that could cause us to lose him.
Title: If we get Bryant
Post by: plumbhog on October 19, 2018, 12:46:25 pm
to go along with this outstanding group of young receivers we have coming in, do you think we will be as successful as we were the first year we had Mallet and the last group of great receiver's?
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Hollywood870 on October 19, 2018, 12:47:33 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Swinelake on October 19, 2018, 12:49:26 pm
Potential to be more successful because we have a better D coordinator. But will probably be less successful because the competition is much MUCH steeper
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Supermark101 on October 19, 2018, 01:05:16 pm
No, OL must improve and the weapons will all be freshmen
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: HenduHog on October 19, 2018, 01:25:46 pm
No, OL must improve and the weapons will all be freshmen

Agree about OL,  not as sure about freshman. If they are all they are cracked up to be they can compete. especially WR.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: woodhog14 on October 19, 2018, 01:26:16 pm
No, OL must improve and the weapons will all be freshmen
The first year Mallet started the 3 starting WR's were freshman. With a Jr. TE as well. I think we could be just as good as that 2009 team that went 7-5 next year with Bryant.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Wildhog on October 19, 2018, 01:27:24 pm
The first year Mallet started the 3 starting WR's were freshman. With a Jr. TE as well. I think we could be just as good as that 2009 team that went 7-5 next year with Bryant.

Adams, Wright, and Childs were sophomores Mallett's first year ('09).  Hamilton was a freshman, though.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: jackflash on October 19, 2018, 01:39:06 pm
I want Bryant also. but we need to improve offensive line for him to have a chance
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: hogsanity on October 19, 2018, 01:42:02 pm
Adams, Wright, and Childs were sophomores Mallett's first year ('09).  Hamilton was a freshman, though.

dont be bringing in facts.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Hogbit on October 19, 2018, 01:48:44 pm
Come on...chupacabra.   WPS
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Paul on October 19, 2018, 01:58:06 pm
I want Bryant also. but we need to improve offensive line for him to have a chance
It's imperative that we get him especially if the Oline doesn't improve.  His athleticism & running ability will be more critical in that case so he can gain yards scrambling much like the OM qb did to us last week.  He won the game for them with his legs.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: woodhog14 on October 19, 2018, 01:58:40 pm
Adams, Wright, and Childs were sophomores Mallett's first year ('09).  Hamilton was a freshman, though.
That's right! Brain fart!  :D
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Been10Hog on October 19, 2018, 02:04:01 pm
Agree about OL,  not as sure about freshman. If they are all they are cracked up to be they can compete. especially WR.
If they can run and catch, they can run and catch! Don't quote me on that....
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: code red on October 19, 2018, 02:15:11 pm
No way....we may be worse next year. 
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: HoGs1031 on October 19, 2018, 02:36:09 pm
Agree about OL,  not as sure about freshman. If they are all they are cracked up to be they can compete. especially WR.

OL will benefit from an experience QB who can read a D and make pre snap adjustments without looking to the sideline (not a knock on TY just the reality).
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: RazorPiggie on October 19, 2018, 02:39:57 pm
No way....we may be worse next year. 

No we won't.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: carolinahogger on October 19, 2018, 02:40:05 pm
dont be bringing in facts.

Agreed.  Hogville is a place for opinions, feelings, and impressions.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: King Kong on October 19, 2018, 02:46:12 pm
Yes 8-5 can happen. We wonít throw it as well. But the points scored and wins should be close
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: HogJowler on October 19, 2018, 03:13:14 pm
It can happen.  I think we will pick up at least two JC OL.  With this offense the QB doesn't need as much time as a 7 step drop QB.  Read and React.  Better mobility also slows down the rush.

We haven't given up that many sacks.  Whaley, Boyd and CJ are all also good quick outlets.  Offense will work. 

Will we plug the holes on defense is the question??????????????????
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: TebowHater on October 19, 2018, 05:00:33 pm
Barring something major changing, Bryant is going to be a hog.

Would feel even better about it if the fans show up tomorrow.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: 247Hog on October 19, 2018, 05:06:00 pm
Barring something major changing, Bryant is going to be a hog.

Would feel even better about it if the fans show up tomorrow.

You basing this solely on his relationship with Morris?
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: HogCzar1 on October 19, 2018, 05:12:03 pm
No way....we may be worse next year. 


As in winless? With next yearís non conference schedule? No way.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 19, 2018, 05:17:39 pm
Barring something major changing, Bryant is going to be a hog.

Would feel even better about it if the fans show up tomorrow.
and chanted his name during the game.

Kel     Lee     B                  Kel    Lee    B
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: hog of steele on October 19, 2018, 06:16:30 pm
Concur.

If the argument is CBB tailed off at the end?  Those players are our Jr's next year.  Even if CCM were God-like in recruiting and ability (he's not), his players will be -- at best -- true Sophomores and not ready to be any SEC team's backbone.

1.  I don't believe CCM is special, far from it.
2.  Even if his Sophs are? It won't matter.

And this year was the "easy" schedule.

Lots of ifs here. Is this your evaluation? Is this your prediction? Put your name on it and own it. We may finish 2-10 this year. You think we finish 1-11 next year?
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: hog of steele on October 19, 2018, 06:19:40 pm
I don't see us winning 10 games but I think he gives us a shot at 7 or 8.

What I would love is that you would be putting a veteran QB in this system in the QB room. That could help us build the culture we need on this team if we are going to win consistently. I want Brant to come. I think we don't have what he is looking for. But if he does, it may help us in a way that isn't immediately obvious.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: visiblefeet on October 19, 2018, 06:24:48 pm
Is anybody monitoring his trip? Are they going to the Catfish Hole tonight?
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: farmhawg on October 19, 2018, 06:32:47 pm
Lots of ifs here. Is this your evaluation? Is this your prediction? Put your name on it and own it. We may finish 2-10 this year. You think we finish 1-11 next year?
she May have to call a code red.....but no one would listened to the cray cray now.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Cave City Joe on October 19, 2018, 06:40:56 pm
The first year Mallet started the 3 starting WR's were freshman. With a Jr. TE as well. I think we could be just as good as that 2009 team that went 7-5 next year with Bryant.
If you think we are going 7-5 next year then that's just wishful thinking. Offense isn't the problem.  It's going to take a few years to get our defense where they can stop anybody.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: LZH on October 19, 2018, 07:02:25 pm
to go along with this outstanding group of young receivers we have coming in, do you think we will be as successful as we were the first year we had Mallet and the last group of great receiver's?

I think with KB at QB our bowl chances go up a game, maybe two. But the main question is, what in the hell are you holding in that picture? I live in Tampa Bay and I know there are fish everywhere down here that are big'ns, but that looks like a bass. What the hell is that?
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Hogbit on October 19, 2018, 07:26:41 pm
I think with KB at QB our bowl chances go up a game, maybe two. But the main question is, what in the hell are you holding in that picture? I live in Tampa Bay and I know there are fish everywhere down here that are big'ns, but that looks like a bass. What the hell is that?
Looks like a big cat.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: imtad16 on October 19, 2018, 07:34:05 pm
If you think we are going 7-5 next year then that's just wishful thinking. Offense isn't the problem.  It's going to take a few years to get our defense where they can stop anybody.

The game of football (especially in 2018) is about the QB my man. This team isn't without it's holes yes, but if you don't have a QB you aren't going to win.  We hired Chad Morris to create a terrifying offense. IF we had Kelly Bryant this season we would have beat CSU, UNT, Ole Miss, and maybe even A&M. That would be 4-3 or 5-2 with our current parts. You give Chad Morris a duel threat QB that runs his offense like its second nature, we are going to do a lot of winning. So yeah 7-5 next season isn't that crazy. I want a good D too, but we've had the same critiques of our defense in the SEC since 1992 with a handful of exceptions hence let's hire someone to make the offense elite so we did.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on October 19, 2018, 07:41:44 pm
to go along with this outstanding group of young receivers we have coming in, do you think we will be as successful as we were the first year we had Mallet and the last group of great receiver's?

Lots of chips have to fall into place before we get there. Let's just win tomorrow and keep trying to get better in terms of our mental approach and execution. We'll see how good the recruited receivers turn out to be provided they actually sign with us. And we will see how good Bryant can be provided he decides on Arkansas as his choice.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Leadbelly on October 19, 2018, 08:09:12 pm
Concur.

If the argument is CBB tailed off at the end?  Those players are our Jr's next year.  Even if CCM were God-like in recruiting and ability (he's not), his players will be -- at best -- true Sophomores and not ready to be any SEC team's backbone.

1.  I don't believe CCM is special, far from it.
2.  Even if his Sophs are? It won't matter.

And this year was the "easy" schedule.
Iím gonna take a screenshot of this post for next year. YOU WILL BE WRONG!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on October 19, 2018, 08:15:12 pm
He is concerned about DEPTH so that could cause us to lose him.

I assume that you mean Bryant when you say, "he"? If he is half the QB that everyone thinks that he would be that should be his last concern.

And guess what? He isn't likely to come here if he doesn't have a pretty elevated indication from the staff that he will inherit the starting job by simply committing. That wouldn't be a guy who is concerned about our "depth" at QB.

Now if he makes Arkansas his choice I would suggest that you will see someone, maybe more than one at QB, transferring out. Even if he doesn't come here, there may be some of that. At least 1, maybe 2.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RedyorNot on October 19, 2018, 08:39:48 pm
Kelley said some of the "on field" things he was looking for was "guys returning, good quality depth at all positions, guys ready to come in and compete". We have that at the skill positions, especially RB and TE and studs at WR coming in, but there will be holes on the Oline and a center that so far, can't snap the ball correctly.

If Clary can get his act together we may have a chance.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on October 19, 2018, 08:48:27 pm
Kelley said some of the "on field" things he was looking for was "guys returning, good quality depth at all positions, guys ready to come in and compete". We have that at the skill positions, especially RB and TE and studs at WR coming in, but there will be holes on the Oline and a center that so far, can't snap the ball correctly.

If Clary can get his act together we may have a chance.

His decision won't be made based on the performance of Clary.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 19, 2018, 09:05:12 pm
I've looked at farmhawgs avatar to long. What was the question?
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: Hogbit on October 19, 2018, 09:08:53 pm
I've looked at farmhawgs avatar to long. What was the question?
I noticed it earlier today. Very impressive.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: LZH on October 19, 2018, 09:14:00 pm
Bastard. He's gonna make us guess.
Title: Re: If we get Bryant
Post by: plumbhog on October 19, 2018, 09:21:13 pm
I think with KB at QB our bowl chances go up a game, maybe two. But the main question is, what in the hell are you holding in that picture? I live in Tampa Bay and I know there are fish everywhere down here that are big'ns, but that looks like a bass. What the hell is that?

LOL, that's a 45 lb. Blue Cat I caught a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: visiblefeet on October 19, 2018, 09:34:49 pm
Looking for an update.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dmacattack on October 19, 2018, 09:36:55 pm
Doeís...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ballz2thewall on October 19, 2018, 09:40:18 pm
are you kidding?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 247Hog on October 19, 2018, 10:03:22 pm
are you kidding?

Relax. Probably took him there for a more one on one experience. They could still take him/recruits to the hole tomorrow night right?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogmolar on October 19, 2018, 10:12:25 pm
Relax. Probably took him there for a more one on one experience. They could still take him/recruits to the hole tomorrow night right?
People started calling the Hogs and KB joined in.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: greasy_corner on October 19, 2018, 10:15:08 pm
Doeís...

Yep.  He said he's not looking to be recruited. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TulsaHawg on October 19, 2018, 10:33:25 pm
Is anybody monitoring his trip? Are they going to the Catfish Hole tonight?

Saturday night.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 20, 2018, 07:27:10 am
State trooper escort and they called the hogs for him at Does.

HOG LOCK
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 20, 2018, 08:43:35 am
A night on Dickson with a good steak is hard to beat, so that had to make a great impression to see Dickson.  A cool sunny Fall day in Fayetteville is amazing. DWRRS is great and even better with a good crowd and a win.   Wrap that up with a trip to the Catfish Hole on Sat night.   He should love the facilities.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jkstock04 on October 20, 2018, 08:51:12 am
State trooper escort and they called the hogs for him at Does.

HOG LOCK
This sounds excellent.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TurboHawg on October 20, 2018, 09:17:24 am
... about our chances with Kelly Bryant?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mj4president on October 20, 2018, 10:13:35 am
Who's he running with here? Did he stay on campus or a hotel?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 20, 2018, 10:24:48 am
I think as long as all his credits transfer to Arkansas they will get him. It may not be immediately but I think he ends up a Hog

Otis it appears his body language and smile were all in our favor last night.  Do you agree?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mj4president on October 20, 2018, 10:25:01 am
I think as long as all his credits transfer to Arkansas they will get him. It may not be immediately but I think he ends up a Hog

How are his pro prospects looking?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Smalltownhog95 on October 20, 2018, 10:43:58 am
I think as long as all his credits transfer to Arkansas they will get him. It may not be immediately but I think he ends up a Hog
Crap you have my hopes sky high now. If he crushes them and goes elsewhere I'll remember this quote🙂
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 20, 2018, 10:52:08 am
Lol
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jbcarol on October 20, 2018, 11:40:38 am
ďCalled the pigs for the first time.Ē

You donít have to know Football tradition to be a sideline reporter on the SEC Network
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TexHog188 on October 20, 2018, 12:26:22 pm
He has already his first impression. Chad wants him because he knows and can execute this offense.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jbcarol on October 20, 2018, 12:43:32 pm
ďCalled the pigs for the first time.Ē

You donít have to know Football tradition to be a sideline reporter on the SEC Network

Kris Budden
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cornstock on October 20, 2018, 02:09:01 pm
Clemson fan here. Wanted to give my insights about KB.

The list of possible desinations for Bryant include places like Auburn, Arkansas, UNC, and Louisville. I don't think UNC and Louisville are very likely for multiple reasons. These schools could very likely be breaking in new coaches before next year, and Bryant isn't familiar with their current offenses much less whatever scheme they might be running next year.

Given Malzahn's buyout it's pretty much a certainty that he will be at Auburn next year, and Morris will obviously be at Arkansas. The offense that Bryant has run at Clemson is a direct offshoot of the offense Morris brought to Clemson back in 2011, which Morris based off of what he learned from Gus Malzahn.

Kelly Bryant left Clemson for one specific reasonóhe wanted to get as much of an opportunity to prove himself as a QB in order to get drafted by the NFL. We may disagree about just how much pro potential he might have, but there's no doubt that he believes in himself. For this reason I think he would be inclined to go to a team that runs an offense that he is familiar with in order to maximize his chances at being successful.

I don't think that winning is the most important factor in his decision or he would have chosen to stay at Clemson. Playing for Morris or Malzahn would give him a chance to prove himself without starting from scratch in a new offense.

If Malzahn and Morris are the two top choices, I would give Arkansas the advantage for a couple reasons. First, KB already has a personal relationship with Morris and has great respect for Morris by all accounts. He doesn't have this same relationship with Malzahn. Secondly, the QB situation at Auburn isn't as preferable with Stidham appearing more and more likely to return next year given his struggles this year. There's virtually zero chance that Bryant goes to Auburn if Stidham is still there.

As far as what KB can bring to your team, there's no doubt that he is an above average QB. If Clemson's goal was only to win the ACC and make it back to the playoff then he would have been an ideal fit to remain the starter in Clemson, but we have aspirations of a NC. There is doubt as to whether Bryant can take us the rest of the way from a semifinal loss to a championship win. That doesn't mean that he can't help the Hogs get from a few wins to a 8 or 9 win season next year.

Any team that runs Morris version of the HUNH spread is going to take time to adjust on defense to playing opposite of a no huddle offense. It wasn't until year 3 that our defense began to play up to their talent with Morris running the offense. We had a good bit of talent in the first two years, but defense has to play a lot more plays when the offense is in HUNH all of the time. That requires developing more depth that you need when you run the type of offense that Bret Bieliema ran.

Chad Morris is a much more creative playcaller than Tony Elliott at Clemson, and he tends to go much deeper into the playbook than our OC's have since he left in 2014. Also, his WR routes are much more diverse than we typically run at Clemson which typically lead to WR being able to get more separation (at least based on our offense under Morris vs under Elliott at Clemson). KB has the arm talent to get the ball to his receivers when they are open. His problem is that he usually isn't willing to throw the ball unless the WR is wide open. He won't even try to complete a pass if he thinks the WR will have to make a contested catch. This is the reason that I think that Bryant will actually be more successful statistically at Arkansas than he has been at Clemson.


You guys should take a major step forward between this year and next year no matter who plays QB, but I think Bryant would give you guys the best shot at winning more of those tough conference games that you have every year. I personally am hoping that he chooses to play for Morris.


Best of luck the rest of the year.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 02:18:30 pm
https://twitter.com/NWAScottie/status/1053724735421456385

He looks comfortable.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 02:21:45 pm
Clemson fan here. Wanted to give my insights about KB.

The list of possible desinations for Bryant include places like Auburn, Arkansas, UNC, and Louisville. I don't think UNC and Louisville are very likely for multiple reasons. These schools could very likely be breaking in new coaches before next year, and Bryant isn't familiar with their current offenses much less whatever scheme they might be running next year.

Given Malzahn's buyout it's pretty much a certainty that he will be at Auburn next year, and Morris will obviously be at Arkansas. The offense that Bryant has run at Clemson is a direct offshoot of the offense Morris brought to Clemson back in 2011, which Morris based off of what he learned from Gus Malzahn.

Kelly Bryant left Clemson for one specific reasonóhe wanted to get as much of an opportunity to prove himself as a QB in order to get drafted by the NFL. We may disagree about just how much pro potential he might have, but there's no doubt that he believes in himself. For this reason I think he would be inclined to go to a team that runs an offense that he is familiar with in order to maximize his chances at being successful.

I don't think that winning is the most important factor in his decision or he would have chosen to stay at Clemson. Playing for Morris or Malzahn would give him a chance to prove himself without starting from scratch in a new offense.

If Malzahn and Morris are the two top choices, I would give Arkansas the advantage for a couple reasons. First, KB already has a personal relationship with Morris and has great respect for Morris by all accounts. He doesn't have this same relationship with Malzahn. Secondly, the QB situation at Auburn isn't as preferable with Stidham appearing more and more likely to return next year given his struggles this year. There's virtually zero chance that Bryant goes to Auburn if Stidham is still there.

As far as what KB can bring to your team, there's no doubt that he is an above average QB. If Clemson's goal was only to win the ACC and make it back to the playoff then he would have been an ideal fit to remain the starter in Clemson, but we have aspirations of a NC. There is doubt as to whether Bryant can take us the rest of the way from a semifinal loss to a championship win. That doesn't mean that he can't help the Hogs get from a few wins to a 8 or 9 win season next year.

Any team that runs Morris version of the HUNH spread is going to take time to adjust on defense to playing opposite of a no huddle offense. It wasn't until year 3 that our defense began to play up to their talent with Morris running the offense. We had a good bit of talent in the first two years, but defense has to play a lot more plays when the offense is in HUNH all of the time. That requires developing more depth that you need when you run the type of offense that Bret Bieliema ran.

Chad Morris is a much more creative playcaller than Tony Elliott at Clemson, and he tends to go much deeper into the playbook than our OC's have since he left in 2014. Also, his WR routes are much more diverse than we typically run at Clemson which typically lead to WR being able to get more separation (at least based on our offense under Morris vs under Elliott at Clemson). KB has the arm talent to get the ball to his receivers when they are open. His problem is that he usually isn't willing to throw the ball unless the WR is wide open. He won't even try to complete a pass if he thinks the WR will have to make a contested catch. This is the reason that I think that Bryant will actually be more successful statistically at Arkansas than he has been at Clemson.


You guys should take a major step forward between this year and next year no matter who plays QB, but I think Bryant would give you guys the best shot at winning more of those tough conference games that you have every year. I personally am hoping that he chooses to play for Morris.


Best of luck the rest of the year.



Good to hear. Thanks for your insight.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: tusked on October 20, 2018, 02:55:55 pm

Agree 100% with everything clempson :) fan said
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 20, 2018, 03:40:17 pm
Iíd be shocked if Kelly doesnít come
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wpstexan on October 20, 2018, 03:47:16 pm
Iíd be shocked if Kelly doesnít come
Guys, Pinto has been hanging out with Kelly all day. Itís a done deal.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 03:47:40 pm
Yeah, its seems like the relationship and offense gives us an edge for sure.

Has Mataio gotten to hang out with him Pinto?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: presidenthog on October 20, 2018, 03:50:38 pm
... about our chances with Kelly Bryant?

He said in mmqb that he believes we will get him. It won't be immediately but he thinks he ends up here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 20, 2018, 03:50:50 pm
Yeah, its seems like the relationship and offense gives us an edge for sure.

Has Mataio gotten to hang out with him Pinto?

Yeah theyíve developed a pretty tight bond
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: presidenthog on October 20, 2018, 03:58:09 pm
Iíd be shocked if Kelly doesnít come

Pinto has spoken. Hopefully you are right just like you were with soli.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hugo Bezdek on October 20, 2018, 04:04:12 pm
While I'm sure the crowd today didn't win him over, I'm equally sure he's aware that 1-6 Arkansas vs. 1-5 Tulsa at 11 AM was not going to be rocking. If he's visiting The Hill with our current record I'm confident he's considering other factors. Morris seems adept so far at convincing the recruits that they will be a factor in righting the ship.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 04:08:18 pm
From what can be found on social media it seemed like he was enjoying himself.

https://twitter.com/mckalescallions/status/1053709646614142984/video/1
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rzrbk4life on October 20, 2018, 04:20:35 pm
Come on home Mr Bryant!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Arkansas Fan on October 20, 2018, 04:38:29 pm
Guys, Pinto has been hanging out with Kelly all day. Itís a done deal.

Who's Pinto?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: tusked on October 20, 2018, 04:42:25 pm
Who's Pinto?


The question isn't 'who's pinto' ?    the question is 'who's NOT pinto' ?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 04:45:18 pm
Who's Pinto?

This guy...

https://twitter.com/pinto479?lang=en
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2018, 04:50:57 pm
Clemson fan here. Wanted to give my insights about KB.

The list of possible desinations for Bryant include places like Auburn, Arkansas, UNC, and Louisville. I don't think UNC and Louisville are very likely for multiple reasons. These schools could very likely be breaking in new coaches before next year, and Bryant isn't familiar with their current offenses much less whatever scheme they might be running next year.

Given Malzahn's buyout it's pretty much a certainty that he will be at Auburn next year, and Morris will obviously be at Arkansas. The offense that Bryant has run at Clemson is a direct offshoot of the offense Morris brought to Clemson back in 2011, which Morris based off of what he learned from Gus Malzahn.

Kelly Bryant left Clemson for one specific reasonóhe wanted to get as much of an opportunity to prove himself as a QB in order to get drafted by the NFL. We may disagree about just how much pro potential he might have, but there's no doubt that he believes in himself. For this reason I think he would be inclined to go to a team that runs an offense that he is familiar with in order to maximize his chances at being successful.

I don't think that winning is the most important factor in his decision or he would have chosen to stay at Clemson. Playing for Morris or Malzahn would give him a chance to prove himself without starting from scratch in a new offense.

If Malzahn and Morris are the two top choices, I would give Arkansas the advantage for a couple reasons. First, KB already has a personal relationship with Morris and has great respect for Morris by all accounts. He doesn't have this same relationship with Malzahn. Secondly, the QB situation at Auburn isn't as preferable with Stidham appearing more and more likely to return next year given his struggles this year. There's virtually zero chance that Bryant goes to Auburn if Stidham is still there.

As far as what KB can bring to your team, there's no doubt that he is an above average QB. If Clemson's goal was only to win the ACC and make it back to the playoff then he would have been an ideal fit to remain the starter in Clemson, but we have aspirations of a NC. There is doubt as to whether Bryant can take us the rest of the way from a semifinal loss to a championship win. That doesn't mean that he can't help the Hogs get from a few wins to a 8 or 9 win season next year.

Any team that runs Morris version of the HUNH spread is going to take time to adjust on defense to playing opposite of a no huddle offense. It wasn't until year 3 that our defense began to play up to their talent with Morris running the offense. We had a good bit of talent in the first two years, but defense has to play a lot more plays when the offense is in HUNH all of the time. That requires developing more depth that you need when you run the type of offense that Bret Bieliema ran.

Chad Morris is a much more creative playcaller than Tony Elliott at Clemson, and he tends to go much deeper into the playbook than our OC's have since he left in 2014. Also, his WR routes are much more diverse than we typically run at Clemson which typically lead to WR being able to get more separation (at least based on our offense under Morris vs under Elliott at Clemson). KB has the arm talent to get the ball to his receivers when they are open. His problem is that he usually isn't willing to throw the ball unless the WR is wide open. He won't even try to complete a pass if he thinks the WR will have to make a contested catch. This is the reason that I think that Bryant will actually be more successful statistically at Arkansas than he has been at Clemson.


You guys should take a major step forward between this year and next year no matter who plays QB, but I think Bryant would give you guys the best shot at winning more of those tough conference games that you have every year. I personally am hoping that he chooses to play for Morris.


Best of luck the rest of the year.
Thanks for the both the insight/comments as well as your best wishes to our program. Classy post and hope you guys can not only make it to the NC game, but take out the Tide as well.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Bacons Rebellion on October 20, 2018, 04:58:58 pm
Ö
 KB has the arm talent to get the ball to his receivers when they are open. His problem is that he usually isn't willing to throw the ball unless the WR is wide open. He won't even try to complete a pass if he thinks the WR will have to make a contested catch.
...


I had the Krylon out stenciling K. Bryant on the locker until I read that line. I remember Hatcher being open against Nicholls State. Jarious Wright wide open against A&M. Lately though ....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HawgnCorona on October 20, 2018, 05:08:05 pm
Guys, Pinto has been hanging out with Kelly all day. Itís a done deal.

Sooieeett!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Applebottomjeans on October 20, 2018, 05:15:03 pm
I donít know who Pinto is but after checking out his twitter...I want him to be my friend!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hollywood_HOGan45 on October 20, 2018, 05:21:06 pm
Clemson fan here. Wanted to give my insights about KB.

The list of possible desinations for Bryant include places like Auburn, Arkansas, UNC, and Louisville. I don't think UNC and Louisville are very likely for multiple reasons. These schools could very likely be breaking in new coaches before next year, and Bryant isn't familiar with their current offenses much less whatever scheme they might be running next year.

Given Malzahn's buyout it's pretty much a certainty that he will be at Auburn next year, and Morris will obviously be at Arkansas. The offense that Bryant has run at Clemson is a direct offshoot of the offense Morris brought to Clemson back in 2011, which Morris based off of what he learned from Gus Malzahn.

Kelly Bryant left Clemson for one specific reasonóhe wanted to get as much of an opportunity to prove himself as a QB in order to get drafted by the NFL. We may disagree about just how much pro potential he might have, but there's no doubt that he believes in himself. For this reason I think he would be inclined to go to a team that runs an offense that he is familiar with in order to maximize his chances at being successful.

I don't think that winning is the most important factor in his decision or he would have chosen to stay at Clemson. Playing for Morris or Malzahn would give him a chance to prove himself without starting from scratch in a new offense.

If Malzahn and Morris are the two top choices, I would give Arkansas the advantage for a couple reasons. First, KB already has a personal relationship with Morris and has great respect for Morris by all accounts. He doesn't have this same relationship with Malzahn. Secondly, the QB situation at Auburn isn't as preferable with Stidham appearing more and more likely to return next year given his struggles this year. There's virtually zero chance that Bryant goes to Auburn if Stidham is still there.

As far as what KB can bring to your team, there's no doubt that he is an above average QB. If Clemson's goal was only to win the ACC and make it back to the playoff then he would have been an ideal fit to remain the starter in Clemson, but we have aspirations of a NC. There is doubt as to whether Bryant can take us the rest of the way from a semifinal loss to a championship win. That doesn't mean that he can't help the Hogs get from a few wins to a 8 or 9 win season next year.

Any team that runs Morris version of the HUNH spread is going to take time to adjust on defense to playing opposite of a no huddle offense. It wasn't until year 3 that our defense began to play up to their talent with Morris running the offense. We had a good bit of talent in the first two years, but defense has to play a lot more plays when the offense is in HUNH all of the time. That requires developing more depth that you need when you run the type of offense that Bret Bieliema ran.

Chad Morris is a much more creative playcaller than Tony Elliott at Clemson, and he tends to go much deeper into the playbook than our OC's have since he left in 2014. Also, his WR routes are much more diverse than we typically run at Clemson which typically lead to WR being able to get more separation (at least based on our offense under Morris vs under Elliott at Clemson). KB has the arm talent to get the ball to his receivers when they are open. His problem is that he usually isn't willing to throw the ball unless the WR is wide open. He won't even try to complete a pass if he thinks the WR will have to make a contested catch. This is the reason that I think that Bryant will actually be more successful statistically at Arkansas than he has been at Clemson.


You guys should take a major step forward between this year and next year no matter who plays QB, but I think Bryant would give you guys the best shot at winning more of those tough conference games that you have every year. I personally am hoping that he chooses to play for Morris.


Best of luck the rest of the year.



Clemson looks legit once again this year.
I admire Dabo for taking Clemson to that next level. I also admire Dabo as a person.

Best of luck to your team.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: lunchbox72703 on October 20, 2018, 06:04:47 pm
A night on Dickson with a good steak is hard to beat, so that had to make a great impression to see Dickson.  A cool sunny Fall day in Fayetteville is amazing. DWRRS is great and even better with a good crowd and a win.   Wrap that up with a trip to the Catfish Hole on Sat night.   He should love the facilities.

He came into Shotz last night while I was Djing.  Needless to say, he got a shoutout on the mic and a public request to come make the Hogs better!  I don't know if it will help, but.....you're welcome.  LOL
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Jackrabbit Hog on October 20, 2018, 06:06:28 pm
He came into Shotz last night while I was Djing.  Needless to say, he got a shoutout on the mic and a public request to come make the Hogs better!  I don't know if it will help, but.....you're welcome.  LOL

I trust you played some Merle Haggard and George Jones classics for him?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on October 20, 2018, 06:11:12 pm
??
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 20, 2018, 06:12:32 pm
I would suspect towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 20, 2018, 06:20:13 pm
Before the next semester starts.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cornstock on October 20, 2018, 07:23:28 pm
Clemson looks legit once again this year.
I admire Dabo for taking Clemson to that next level. I also admire Dabo as a person.

Best of luck to your team.


There's no denying that we struck gold when we promoted an unknown WR coach to be interim coach and then HC. We are definitely lucky to have a coach like Dabo.

It's important to note how vital it was to our success when Dabo hired Chad Morris. We were coming off a 6-7 season with a loss to USF in a bowl game before Morris came in. We had too much talent to be 6-7 back then. Morris was a huge part of getting our guys to believe that we could be successful. I'm not discounting the role of Dabo and then of Venables when he was hired in 2012, but without Morris I don't think we would be anywhere close to where we are today.

Morris is also one heck of a recruiter. He's the guy that recruited Deshaun Watson to Clemson.

It may take Morris 2 or 3 years to turn things around given the drastic change in philosophy from Bieliema, but his offense is a lot of fun to watch once he gets his players in there. Just give it time.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on October 20, 2018, 07:40:17 pm

There's no denying that we struck gold when we promoted an unknown WR coach to be interim coach and then HC. We are definitely lucky to have a coach like Dabo.

It's important to note how vital it was to our success when Dabo hired Chad Morris. We were coming off a 6-7 season with a loss to USF in a bowl game before Morris came in. We had too much talent to be 6-7 back then. Morris was a huge part of getting our guys to believe that we could be successful. I'm not discounting the role of Dabo and then of Venables when he was hired in 2012, but without Morris I don't think we would be anywhere close to where we are today.

Morris is also one heck of a recruiter. He's the guy that recruited Deshaun Watson to Clemson.

It may take Morris 2 or 3 years to turn things around given the drastic change in philosophy from Bieliema, but his offense is a lot of fun to watch once he gets his players in there. Just give it time.

You know, I hope you are right and we have already seen his ability and that of his staff to recruit.

I'm still a little concerned about how he utilizes and positions the offensive talent that he has inherited, but I have hopes for the future. 

As for the defense, we have underachieved since we departed the first part of the season and Chavis needs to get a grip on that now, instead of 2-3 years down the road. That alone would have given us more wins to date.

There are too many moving parts and too much recruiting left to be done before any guarantee of any future performance against an SEC level schedule can be assured.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rtr on October 20, 2018, 07:44:15 pm
I think Cornstalk is right.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 08:05:02 pm
Might just be me, but I don't see much positive for him to come here. If he got benched there is probably a reason. Might not all be ability. He quits one team, wants another? Just reading between the lines, but I don't know this would be a long term good thing for the Hogs. Just saying.

Yes a very big reason...


It's called 6 foot 6 215 pound top overall recruit top overall pick in the NFL talent.

https://247sports.com/Player/Trevor-Lawrence-61350/high-school-106646/

http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=401013149
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 08:17:01 pm
Well maybe he should just go to the NFL then. Unless he not old enough. Im not trying to be a A$$ just thinking he might not be the answer, long term. Also are there issues we are not aware of?

Probably not. Chad Morris has a couple inside sources at Clemson.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Superhog1959 on October 20, 2018, 08:19:06 pm
I am referring to Bryant.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 08:22:03 pm
I am referring to Bryant.

I know. Chad Morris is close to Dabo Swinney so he would know if there was something else going on.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Superhog1959 on October 20, 2018, 08:27:20 pm
If he could help the team. I am all for it. But just the situation kind of makes me leary. I saw some of his highlights, he was impressive.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 20, 2018, 08:29:04 pm

There's no denying that we struck gold when we promoted an unknown WR coach to be interim coach and then HC. We are definitely lucky to have a coach like Dabo.

It's important to note how vital it was to our success when Dabo hired Chad Morris. We were coming off a 6-7 season with a loss to USF in a bowl game before Morris came in. We had too much talent to be 6-7 back then. Morris was a huge part of getting our guys to believe that we could be successful. I'm not discounting the role of Dabo and then of Venables when he was hired in 2012, but without Morris I don't think we would be anywhere close to where we are today.

Morris is also one heck of a recruiter. He's the guy that recruited Deshaun Watson to Clemson.

It may take Morris 2 or 3 years to turn things around given the drastic change in philosophy from Bieliema, but his offense is a lot of fun to watch once he gets his players in there. Just give it time.

Morris really helped Swinney get yall's program going, and then Venables helped take yall to the next level.

I saw one of your fellow Clemson fan post on another board that yall's Cornerbacks are finally starting to play up to potential.  He posted that NC State has 2 NFL WRs and that those 2 NC State NFL WRs got erased today.

If anyone can slow down Tua and Alabama's offense it is Venables.  Venables has faced a ton of Heisman Trophy caliber QBs.  Just have to keep in mind that Venables held Tim Tebow and Florida to 24 points in a NC game (Oklahoma lost the game, but Tebow and Florida came into that NC game averaging 45 points per game).

Venables has more defensive talent this year at Clemson than he had that year at Oklahoma.

Morris was a great hire for yall when Swinney hired him.  Yall really improved when Morris became yall's OC. 

Swinney is probably really happy and proud that Morris is our Head Coach.  Swinney knows that Morris will get us turned around.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ur on October 20, 2018, 08:36:54 pm
He was at JJs on Dickson after the game. Got a standing ovation and hog call when he left.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: golf2day on October 20, 2018, 08:37:29 pm
Morris really helped Swinney get yall's program going, and then Venables helped take yall to the next level.

I saw one of your fellow Clemson fan post on another board that yall's Cornerbacks are finally starting to play up to potential.  He posted that NC State has 2 NFL WRs and that those 2 NC State NFL WRs got erased today.

If anyone can slow down Tua and Alabama's offense it is Venables.  Venables has faced a ton of Heisman Trophy caliber QBs.  Just have to keep in mind that Venables held Tim Tebow and Florida to 24 points in a NC game (Oklahoma lost the game, but Tebow and Florida came into that NC game averaging 45 points per game).

Venables has more defensive talent this year at Clemson than he had that year at Oklahoma.

Morris was a great hire for yall when Swinney hired him.  Yall really improved when Morris became yall's OC. 

Swinney is probably really happy and proud that Morris is our Head Coach.  Swinney knows that Morris will get us turned around.
The only two real questions are what would Venables shoot if he played Southern Hills, and what would our record be if we hired the ghost of Perry Maxwell to coach us?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cavtastic Voyage on October 20, 2018, 09:04:59 pm
If you cant see the benefits of having Kelly Bryant i question your ability to perceive college football. Not evaluate talent, not coach, just your ability to watch a game. If your a fan of college football at all you shouldn't have to ask about what Kelly Bryant brings to the table. Clemson has only been center stage for 5 years now. Theres no way your a football fan, watch college football and haven't seen clemson play multiple times. Theres no way you didnt see highlights. If you did you know the guy is a baller. And if you have to ask then your opinion is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: factchecker on October 20, 2018, 09:08:43 pm
If you cant see the benefits of having Kelly Bryant i question your ability to perceive college football.
Amen.  But even if you can't even see it --- why be against it?

From what I understand Bryant is a good guy.

He is smart (getting a degree).

Why would you be against adding someone who is going to help the team is some fashion?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 20, 2018, 09:22:12 pm
Best not argue with a Few certain IDIOTS on here, as the old saying goes. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time! Nothing wrong with disagreeing. I'm still 100% behind CM and have utmost confidence he turns the HOGS around! What is a shame is the HOGS should very well be 4 & 4.  Just a lot of bad calls, dumb mistakes and bad luck at times. Hopefully things will get better.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cavtastic Voyage on October 20, 2018, 09:25:00 pm
You call people dumb? Because we discuss the positives and negatives of a decision. That's not a good approach. Calling names kind of says things about you. If you get my drift.
If you don't think Kelly Bryant would help this team you are dumb. I think anyone that holds that opinion is dumb. We have won 1 game, and have found a marginal option at QB. Bryant has played on a national stage the last 2 seasons and has lost 2 games in career. If he comes here he will start. Thats a redundant statement i know, point being hes easily better than what we have now.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 20, 2018, 09:33:20 pm
Good news is Mizzís facilities blow in comparison.

Of course right now they can sale more recent success

He seems to care more about the environment, vibe of program, how he fits, and getting his masters in sports management.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 20, 2018, 09:51:07 pm
He seems to care more about the environment, vibe of program, how he fits, and getting his masters in sports management.

How did he feel about our environment?  Do we have sports management?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jbcarol on October 20, 2018, 09:51:57 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNCFB/status/1053692951690403840
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Leadbelly on October 20, 2018, 10:05:10 pm
If you don't think Kelly Bryant would help this team you are dumb. I think anyone that holds that opinion is dumb. We have won 1 game, and have found a marginal option at QB. Bryant has played on a national stage the last 2 seasons and has lost 2 games in career. If he comes here he will start. Thats a redundant statement i know, point being hes easily better than what we have now.
GET I GET AN AMEN!! Hallelujah!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 20, 2018, 10:08:32 pm
How did he feel about our environment?  Do we have sports management?

Yes.

http://catalog.uark.edu/graduatecatalog/programsofstudy/recreationandsportmanagementresmmededd/
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 20, 2018, 10:09:05 pm
Yeah theyíve developed a pretty tight bond

Did Kelly B think Mataio was Lying when he told him how many sacks he has this year?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: BroyledNutts on October 20, 2018, 10:09:10 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNCFB/status/1053692951690403840


Well .............. isn't that a refreshing look at our program from the outside ..........









 :puke:
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on October 21, 2018, 08:13:55 am
Best not argue with a Few certain IDIOTS on here, as the old saying goes. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time! Nothing wrong with disagreeing. I'm still 100% behind CM and have utmost confidence he turns the HOGS around! What is a shame is the HOGS should very well be 4 & 4.  Just a lot of bad calls, dumb mistakes and bad luck at times. Hopefully things will get better.
It's a process.  Bryant certainly might help in the transition.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TulsaHawg on October 21, 2018, 10:00:03 am
I think the key for the Hogs is KBís relationship with CCM. It goes back several years.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 21, 2018, 10:04:30 am
I think the key for the Hogs is KBís relationship with CCM. It goes back several years.

I think I read or heard somewhere that Craddock helped CCM recruit him so that is another bond.  Craddock as OC is a big bonus if this is true.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 21, 2018, 10:53:07 am
Don't love the addition of the Mizzou visit. That's new.

Wish we had had for a game the fans attended and yelled, even if we lost. Would have been close to a lock in that case.

Yíall are overrating the attendance aspect. Yeah it would have been better to have been playing a great team with a packed house but the fans that were there showed him all the love he could handle. He and his dad are rational people and both saw the potential of program. His dad even mentioned that he knows Coach Morris will have success with recruiting if he can continue to get elite prospects on campus for a visit.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 21, 2018, 10:55:34 am
Yíall are overrating the attendance aspect. Yeah it would have been better to have been playing a great team with a packed house but the fans that were there showed him all the love he could handle. He and his dad are rational people and both saw the potential of program. His dad even mentioned that he knows Coach Morris will have success with recruiting if he can continue to get elite prospects on campus for a visit.

I want to thank you for adding your valuable perspective.  It has been fun to hear your views while being with him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 21, 2018, 11:13:34 am
Yíall are overrating the attendance aspect. Yeah it would have been better to have been playing a great team with a packed house but the fans that were there showed him all the love he could handle. He and his dad are rational people and both saw the potential of program. His dad even mentioned that he knows Coach Morris will have success with recruiting if he can continue to get elite prospects on campus for a visit.

I want to thank you for adding your valuable perspective.  It has been fun to hear your views while being with him.

Yes, thanks for your insight as always Pinto.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: FrankCourtneyNicodemus on October 21, 2018, 12:48:16 pm
Kelly Bryant will be to CM as Ryan Mallett was to BP?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: JaketheSnake on October 21, 2018, 01:24:26 pm
Kelly Bryant will be to CM as Ryan Mallett was to BP?
No.  only one year.  But could sure help next year. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 21, 2018, 02:24:04 pm
No.  only one year.  But could sure help next year.

Only one year but heís eligible immediately and he might create a greater impact in the recruiting world than getting Mallett did. Hard to compare due to the evolution of social media.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 3kgthog on October 21, 2018, 03:57:48 pm
His value as a headline grabber might be higher than his value as a player.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: JaketheSnake on October 21, 2018, 04:01:09 pm
Only one year but heís eligible immediately and he might create a greater impact in the recruiting world than getting Mallett did. Hard to compare due to the evolution of social media.
Agreed. Canít really compare.  Mallet best year was his third.  Bryant has to make that immediate impact, which I believe he would here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 21, 2018, 04:12:10 pm
Only one year but heís eligible immediately and he might create a greater impact in the recruiting world than getting Mallett did. Hard to compare due to the evolution of social media.

He will help attract some stud JUCO Olineman for sure.  He has the best chance to be productive immediately at Arkansas with an offense that he knows, an OC that he knows and a HC that he knows.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 21, 2018, 04:52:08 pm
He has installed the Cowboys offense that they were running with Dak Prescott. It would be good for Bryant to run it for a year if he wants to improve his draft chances.

It is going to help Lock be a first round draft pick.

No, this is Dooleyís first year as an OC. He has never worked with QBís he didnít installing any offense with the Cowboys. Pretty much just got yelled out by Dez and he let go because the WR play was bad.

Lock was getting first round grades before Dooley was hired.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: murthage on October 21, 2018, 06:10:24 pm
Remove if posted elsewhere....

https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/Kelly-Bryant-Arkansas-official-visit-recruiting-123627860/
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 21, 2018, 07:18:33 pm
His value as a headline grabber might be higher than his value as a player.

Agreed. We need all the positive national exposure we can get
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 21, 2018, 07:51:17 pm
I can just hear parents now...Ē my kid spent 4 years at Mizzou and all I got is this lousy rock.Ē

And I'm pretty sure you get a complimentary journalism degree too!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: SugarHillGaHog on October 21, 2018, 08:09:36 pm
I don't feel all this hero worship and wanting of a QB that might never show up helps the confidence of the guys we have.  I'd really hate doing my job the best of my ability and hearing folks going crazy over someone to replace me that's sitting in the stands as I'm playing/injured.  I know it's part of the game but..  I don't like it much.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 21, 2018, 08:12:33 pm
I don't feel all this hero worship and wanting of a QB that might never show up helps the confidence of the guys we have.  I'd really hate doing my job the best of my ability and hearing folks going crazy over someone to replace me that's sitting in the stands as I'm playing/injured.  I know it's part of the game but..  I don't like it much.

Why is our fan base so soft and accepting of mediocrity(or actually less than)?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 21, 2018, 08:19:25 pm
I canít wait till next year when a play breaks down and KB scampers for 50 yards and a score.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 21, 2018, 08:21:32 pm
I don't feel all this hero worship and wanting of a QB that might never show up helps the confidence of the guys we have.  I'd really hate doing my job the best of my ability and hearing folks going crazy over someone to replace me that's sitting in the stands as I'm playing/injured.  I know it's part of the game but..  I don't like it much.


The coaches recruit players to take your position away from you every year, why do you think we offered you?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 21, 2018, 08:32:52 pm
I don't feel all this hero worship and wanting of a QB that might never show up helps the confidence of the guys we have.  I'd really hate doing my job the best of my ability and hearing folks going crazy over someone to replace me that's sitting in the stands as I'm playing/injured.  I know it's part of the game but..  I don't like it much.

I'm sure the coaches have talked to the current QB's about this whole thing
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sickboy on October 21, 2018, 09:31:41 pm
Don't know if anyone's posted it, but he looks good in the uni (on left)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqEjk_SUwAAkZnj.jpg)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: SugarHillGaHog on October 21, 2018, 11:07:15 pm
The coaches recruit players to take your position away from you every year, why do you think we offered you?

There is a big *** difference between knowing coaches are out recruiting and hearing fans cheer for your replacement AS YOU PLAY for them.  Especially when you are getting your first start or the injured starter on the sideline.

/love my hogs
//some fans not so much
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: woodhog14 on October 22, 2018, 01:13:00 pm
There is a big *** difference between knowing coaches are out recruiting and hearing fans cheer for your replacement AS YOU PLAY for them.  Especially when you are getting your first start or the injured starter on the sideline.

/love my hogs
//some fans not so much
So you don't like our fans getting behind a graduate transfer that could come in and IMMEDIATELY makes us better? It makes our program better and the rebuild faster, but you don't like that because they cheered for him while we were playing. WOW! Makes sense... ::)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 22, 2018, 01:17:24 pm
There is a big *** difference between knowing coaches are out recruiting and hearing fans cheer for your replacement AS YOU PLAY for them.  Especially when you are getting your first start or the injured starter on the sideline.

/love my hogs
//some fans not so much

No different than if he was an incoming 5 star freshman
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 22, 2018, 01:44:39 pm
No different than if he was an incoming 5 star freshman
Yep. You can ask Kelly Bryant about that one.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Mike Irwin on October 22, 2018, 02:13:38 pm
Good grief. It's hard to believe some people can be so brain dead. Clearly the head coach believes that Kelly Bryant can help this football team next year. The young man would not have been here visiting if it weren't so. What, do some of you actually think you're going to save Morris from making a tragic mistake by following your advice? Talk about goofy.

Maybe some of ya'll need to take a look at this team's record so far this season. Do you really think at this critical time in the development of the football program that Morris could not use a quarterback with Bryant's skills? I appreciate what Ty Storey and Connor Noland have done to try to establish Morris' offense but only a complete meatball would pass on Bryant if he's interested in spending next season on the Hill.

Not only would he give this team a better chance to win but his presence would probably allow incoming freshmen QB K.J. Jefferson to redshirt and learn from him for a year.

Get a clue.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 22, 2018, 02:19:08 pm
Good grief. It's hard to believe some people can be so brain dead. Clearly the head coach of this football team believes that Kelly Bryant can help this football team next year. The young man would not have been here visiting if it weren't so. What, do some of you actually think you're going to save Morris from making a tragic mistake by following your advice? Talk about goofy.

Maybe some of ya'll need to take a look at this team's record so far this season. Do you really think at this critical time in the development of the football program that Morris could not use a quarterback with Bryant's skills? I appreciate what Ty Storey and Connor Noland have done to try to establish Morris' offense but only a complete meatball would pass on Bryant if he's interested in spending next season on the Hill.

Not only would he give this team a better chance to win but his presence would probably allow incoming freshmen QB K.J. Jefferson to redshirt and learn from him for a year.

Get a clue.

haha! True.  I love seeing which adjectives you have to use to describe some of the posters here...it must take some serious restraint.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Uberanubis on October 22, 2018, 02:22:12 pm
Good grief. It's hard to believe some people can be so brain dead. Clearly the head coach of this football team believes that Kelly Bryant can help this football team next year. The young man would not have been here visiting if it weren't so. What, do some of you actually think you're going to save Morris from making a tragic mistake by following your advice? Talk about goofy.

Maybe some of ya'll need to take a look at this team's record so far this season. Do you really think at this critical time in the development of the football program that Morris could not use a quarterback with Bryant's skills? I appreciate what Ty Storey and Connor Noland have done to try to establish Morris' offense but only a complete meatball would pass on Bryant if he's interested in spending next season on the Hill.

Not only would he give this team a better chance to win but his presence would probably allow incoming freshmen QB K.J. Jefferson to redshirt and learn from him for a year.

Get a clue.
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Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 22, 2018, 04:03:20 pm
Iíd be shocked if Kelly doesnít come

You willing to bet a set of differential bolts, a gas tank, and maybe a muffler bracket?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on October 22, 2018, 04:09:47 pm
haha! True.  I love seeing which adjectives you have to use to describe some of the posters here...it must take some serious restraint.
Just seems that alot of folks want to crown him king before he even commits.
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Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 22, 2018, 04:19:53 pm
Clemson fan here. Wanted to give my insights about KB.

The list of possible desinations for Bryant include places like Auburn, Arkansas, UNC, and Louisville. I don't think UNC and Louisville are very likely for multiple reasons. These schools could very likely be breaking in new coaches before next year, and Bryant isn't familiar with their current offenses much less whatever scheme they might be running next year.

Given Malzahn's buyout it's pretty much a certainty that he will be at Auburn next year, and Morris will obviously be at Arkansas. The offense that Bryant has run at Clemson is a direct offshoot of the offense Morris brought to Clemson back in 2011, which Morris based off of what he learned from Gus Malzahn.

Kelly Bryant left Clemson for one specific reasonóhe wanted to get as much of an opportunity to prove himself as a QB in order to get drafted by the NFL. We may disagree about just how much pro potential he might have, but there's no doubt that he believes in himself. For this reason I think he would be inclined to go to a team that runs an offense that he is familiar with in order to maximize his chances at being successful.

I don't think that winning is the most important factor in his decision or he would have chosen to stay at Clemson. Playing for Morris or Malzahn would give him a chance to prove himself without starting from scratch in a new offense.

If Malzahn and Morris are the two top choices, I would give Arkansas the advantage for a couple reasons. First, KB already has a personal relationship with Morris and has great respect for Morris by all accounts. He doesn't have this same relationship with Malzahn. Secondly, the QB situation at Auburn isn't as preferable with Stidham appearing more and more likely to return next year given his struggles this year. There's virtually zero chance that Bryant goes to Auburn if Stidham is still there.

As far as what KB can bring to your team, there's no doubt that he is an above average QB. If Clemson's goal was only to win the ACC and make it back to the playoff then he would have been an ideal fit to remain the starter in Clemson, but we have aspirations of a NC. There is doubt as to whether Bryant can take us the rest of the way from a semifinal loss to a championship win. That doesn't mean that he can't help the Hogs get from a few wins to a 8 or 9 win season next year.

Any team that runs Morris version of the HUNH spread is going to take time to adjust on defense to playing opposite of a no huddle offense. It wasn't until year 3 that our defense began to play up to their talent with Morris running the offense. We had a good bit of talent in the first two years, but defense has to play a lot more plays when the offense is in HUNH all of the time. That requires developing more depth that you need when you run the type of offense that Bret Bieliema ran.

Chad Morris is a much more creative playcaller than Tony Elliott at Clemson, and he tends to go much deeper into the playbook than our OC's have since he left in 2014. Also, his WR routes are much more diverse than we typically run at Clemson which typically lead to WR being able to get more separation (at least based on our offense under Morris vs under Elliott at Clemson). KB has the arm talent to get the ball to his receivers when they are open. His problem is that he usually isn't willing to throw the ball unless the WR is wide open. He won't even try to complete a pass if he thinks the WR will have to make a contested catch. This is the reason that I think that Bryant will actually be more successful statistically at Arkansas than he has been at Clemson.


You guys should take a major step forward between this year and next year no matter who plays QB, but I think Bryant would give you guys the best shot at winning more of those tough conference games that you have every year. I personally am hoping that he chooses to play for Morris.


Best of luck the rest of the year.



Good read. 'Preciate the info. Good luck to Clemson the rest of the season.

i think it's a coin flip at best. Sure, he seemingly has a good relationship with Morris but he's also looking for the best place to plug n play for NFL draft stock purposes. It basically comes down to whether his relationship with Morris/Craddock are enough to offset our lack of experience at WR and raw OL.  I could see him leading us to 7-8ish wins next year just as much as I could see him running for his life. I suppose the positive spin re: the running for his life part is he could come into a situation and really enhance the leadership section of his resume.



Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 22, 2018, 05:05:21 pm
Got about a 75% chance of getting KB. Was told by someone that sure enough knows!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 22, 2018, 06:52:26 pm
Got about a 75% chance of getting KB. Was told by someone that sure enough knows!

Unless it was a powerhouse hostess working the backroom, your source is suspect.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 22, 2018, 06:54:14 pm
LOL, Dont think so!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 22, 2018, 07:02:11 pm
Good grief. It's hard to believe some people can be so brain dead. Clearly the head coach believes that Kelly Bryant can help this football team next year. The young man would not have been here visiting if it weren't so. What, do some of you actually think you're going to save Morris from making a tragic mistake by following your advice? Talk about goofy.

Maybe some of ya'll need to take a look at this team's record so far this season. Do you really think at this critical time in the development of the football program that Morris could not use a quarterback with Bryant's skills? I appreciate what Ty Storey and Connor Noland have done to try to establish Morris' offense but only a complete meatball would pass on Bryant if he's interested in spending next season on the Hill.

Not only would he give this team a better chance to win but his presence would probably allow incoming freshmen QB K.J. Jefferson to redshirt and learn from him for a year.

Get a clue.
The same folks griping about losing are the ones griping about Morris trying to make the team better.

Lolololoooool
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 22, 2018, 07:04:32 pm
You willing to bet a set of differential bolts, a gas tank, and maybe a muffler bracket?
He has a gas tank. Unfortunately, it explodes upon impact if you get rear ended.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 22, 2018, 07:08:24 pm
He has a gas tank. Unfortunately, it explodes upon impact if you get rear ended.

You are showing your age with that one...lol.....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 22, 2018, 07:51:01 pm
You willing to bet a set of differential bolts, a gas tank, and maybe a muffler bracket?

Making fun of a guy that spend the day around Kelly B?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cave City Joe on October 22, 2018, 07:52:24 pm
I would love to see KB come here, but I don't see it happening.  I think Ohio State more likely.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 22, 2018, 07:57:14 pm
Making fun of a guy that spend the day around Kelly B?

Yes. Spending a day with KB doesnít automatically get someone a get out of mockery free card.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 870hogfan on October 22, 2018, 07:58:03 pm
I would love to see KB come here, but I don't see it happening.  I think Ohio State more likely.



Why? They wonít even get a visit from him....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 22, 2018, 08:04:08 pm
I would love to see KB come here, but I don't see it happening.  I think Ohio State more likely.

Dwayne Haskins was a top recruit, has been really good this season (as recently as pre-game against Purdue he was being talking about for the Heisman), and is only a true Sophomore (So, definitely returning). No way Bryant would go to Ohio State.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on October 22, 2018, 09:20:26 pm
Good grief. It's hard to believe some people can be so brain dead. Clearly the head coach believes that Kelly Bryant can help this football team next year. The young man would not have been here visiting if it weren't so. What, do some of you actually think you're going to save Morris from making a tragic mistake by following your advice? Talk about goofy.

Maybe some of ya'll need to take a look at this team's record so far this season. Do you really think at this critical time in the development of the football program that Morris could not use a quarterback with Bryant's skills? I appreciate what Ty Storey and Connor Noland have done to try to establish Morris' offense but only a complete meatball would pass on Bryant if he's interested in spending next season on the Hill.

Not only would he give this team a better chance to win but his presence would probably allow incoming freshmen QB K.J. Jefferson to redshirt and learn from him for a year.

Get a clue.
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Post by: 247Hog on October 22, 2018, 09:25:12 pm
Good grief. It's hard to believe some people can be so brain dead. Clearly the head coach believes that Kelly Bryant can help this football team next year. The young man would not have been here visiting if it weren't so. What, do some of you actually think you're going to save Morris from making a tragic mistake by following your advice? Talk about goofy.

Maybe some of ya'll need to take a look at this team's record so far this season. Do you really think at this critical time in the development of the football program that Morris could not use a quarterback with Bryant's skills? I appreciate what Ty Storey and Connor Noland have done to try to establish Morris' offense but only a complete meatball would pass on Bryant if he's interested in spending next season on the Hill.

Not only would he give this team a better chance to win but his presence would probably allow incoming freshmen QB K.J. Jefferson to redshirt and learn from him for a year.

Get a clue.

Great post. The part i put in bold is being way undersold IMO.  We will be talked about next season by everyone and will have people flipping over to our games to check out Bryant which would be big for recruiting. Everyone always complains we don't recruit enough elite talent and when we have a QB that is 16-2 and played in the playoffs for a team that will probably win 3/4 games this season, they still find something to bitch about. We have one of the most loyal fanbases in the country and we also have some of the most ignorant.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hoggish on October 22, 2018, 09:37:43 pm
Got about a 75% chance of getting KB. Was told by someone that sure enough knows!

I have it from very reliable sources that there is a 95% chance he comes to Arkansas
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jbcarol on October 22, 2018, 09:44:55 pm
Got about a 75% chance of getting KB. Was told by someone that sure enough knows!

Pinto?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Arkansas Fan on October 22, 2018, 09:46:11 pm
Got about a 75% chance of getting KB. Was told by someone that sure enough knows!

At one point we had a 99% chance to beat Ole Miss, too. I won't consider KB a Hog until it's official.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on October 22, 2018, 09:46:19 pm
Pinto?
Kevin Bacon.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 22, 2018, 09:47:01 pm
This has been a done deal for quite some time. If Auburn comes in late it could be trouble
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Arkansas Fan on October 22, 2018, 09:51:55 pm
This has been a done deal for quite some time. If Auburn comes in late it could be trouble

Isn't Stidham returning? I mean, he hasn't shown anything to say he's NFL ready.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Uberanubis on October 22, 2018, 09:52:39 pm
Got about a 75% chance of getting KB. Was told by someone that sure enough knows!
I have it from very reliable sources that there is a 95% chance he comes to Arkansas

now i dont know either of you, or who your sources are, but one thing i have ever noticed on here is 99% of the people who have a reliable source when it comes to big this things like this are just plain wrong. so unless it came from his mouth directly and you have it recorded to make sure you heard it correctly. i will just have to wait and see.

now with that said, i really do hope he comes here, for every reason that was stated that will be a positive for both parties (UofA and KB both)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 22, 2018, 09:54:47 pm
I believe KB has a lot of respect for Chad. I also know he trust Chad to be straight up with him about his opportunity. But Chad will not promise him anything. I believe they feel they have a great chance, but he hasn't announced so always the possibility he goes elsewhere. But they feel pretty good about it! Remember he can go to a really great Team. But some will say the  Team was already great. He can come to the Hogs and make a Huge difference.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 22, 2018, 09:57:12 pm
No, I didnt hear it from KB mouth. Came from the Arkansas side.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jbcarol on October 22, 2018, 09:59:41 pm
Kevin Bacon.

Bryant was in ďSugar BowlĒ with Nick Saban who was in ďBlindsideĒ with Sandra Bullock who was in ďLoverboyĒ with Kevin Bacon.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 23, 2018, 02:45:11 am
There is a big *** difference between knowing coaches are out recruiting and hearing fans cheer for your replacement AS YOU PLAY for them.  Especially when you are getting your first start or the injured starter on the sideline.

/love my hogs
//some fans not so much
I cant believe how soft some of our fans are, this is why we have been trash for so long because our fans just accept mediocrity. I love Storey but hes not a D1 level athlete, KB is and if Storey/Noland/JSJ/CK are intimidated by KB then they need to pack up and leave. Completion breeds excellence and that's what this team needs. We'd be 6-2 right now with KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: southeasthog on October 23, 2018, 05:36:35 am
He has a gas tank. Unfortunately, it explodes upon impact if you get rear ended.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MissippHog on October 23, 2018, 05:48:42 am
Good read. 'Preciate the info. Good luck to Clemson the rest of the season.

i think it's a coin flip at best. Sure, he seemingly has a good relationship with Morris but he's also looking for the best place to plug n play for NFL draft stock purposes. It basically comes down to whether his relationship with Morris/Craddock are enough to offset our lack of experience at WR and raw OL.  I could see him leading us to 7-8ish wins next year just as much as I could see him running for his life. I suppose the positive spin re: the running for his life part is he could come into a situation and really enhance the leadership section of his resume.
Just think of the highlight reel he could put together with our OL.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 23, 2018, 06:20:49 am
Kevin Bacon.

Chip Dillar was an Omega.  :)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: H2OHog on October 23, 2018, 06:54:45 am
Get real people. You have one year left to play to show off your skills to the NFL. Do you go to a team in the toughest conference that won 3 games the prior year, that is completely rebuilding the O-line and playing loads of young players at WR? Of course not.

RAzorback fans being real, are you drunk?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 07:15:57 am
If you cant see the benefits of having Kelly Bryant i question your ability to perceive college football. Not evaluate talent, not coach, just your ability to watch a game. If your a fan of college football at all you shouldn't have to ask about what Kelly Bryant brings to the table. Clemson has only been center stage for 5 years now. Theres no way your a football fan, watch college football and haven't seen clemson play multiple times. Theres no way you didnt see highlights. If you did you know the guy is a baller. And if you have to ask then your opinion is irrelevant.

You are correct and I also add that we would have a year to groom Noland and KJ Jefferson.  KJ could RS if possible so he could focus on learning to read the advanced defenses of the SEC.   KB will instantly make the RPO more dangerous by expanding all elements of the QB run and pass options.  The defenses only have to worry about keying on the RB because Ty and Connor are not scary run threats which neuters the RPO to a degree.  KB has a good arm to go with the scary run threat  so he is going to open up the passing game with the last RPO option.

KB will be a massive improvement for our program and boost our turnaround by at least 3-4 years.  KB could escalate recruiting for JUCO talent or Grad Transfers for the Oline.  KB is going to create a buzz that means many kids will tune in to our games.   I love Ty Storey and appreciate what he has done this year, but a program can't be held back to show appreciation for one player.   There are some that are crying about KB only being around for a year, but guess what- that is all that Storey has left too.   

Storey can transfer if he doesn't want to compete with KB or back up KB.   There are a few vocal minority on here that fight everything with negativity and those that love Ty Storey are defensive.  I love the loyalty some of you have to Ty but this does not mean Ty is being kicked off the team or won't still be considered ALL HOG. Storey has already graduated and can go anywhere that is willing to give him a schollie.  I think Ty is quite smart and knows that after a RS year he's just not as talented as his buzz out of HS.  Let's be honest, just how talented is Ty versus KB and even Connor Noland?  Are some of you going to fight against Connor being the starter next year?  It is very likely to happen and Ty will be backing him up.

I think Ty loves being a Hog and already has his degree for life after football.  I think Ty stays here and helps KB turn the program around in their last year.  I think Ty knows he isn't NFL material, is just focused on being a Hog, and knows that he will be the QB that ushered in the CCM era.   Ty has won the hearts and minds of all Hog fans for his efforts this season, but the program has to be the focus with decisions to make us much better.



Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 07:18:19 am
I cant believe how soft some of our fans are, this is why we have been trash for so long because our fans just accept mediocrity. I love Storey but hes not a D1 level athlete, KB is and if Storey/Noland/JSJ/CK are intimidated by KB then they need to pack up and leave. Completion breeds excellence and that's what this team needs. We'd be 6-2 right now with KB.

Those same fans love Ty so much they will fight against Connor being the starter next year too.  It is very likely to happen and Ty will be backing him up.   Either way, Ty is probably a back up QB next year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 23, 2018, 07:21:47 am
Those same fans love Ty so much they will fight against Connor being the starter next year too.  It is very likely to happen and Ty will be backing him up.   Either way, Ty is probably a back up QB next year.

I didnít see any exceptional potential talent from Noland that makes me think he would for sure be the starter. I could see Ty playing next year while the freshman redshirts. Then 2020 would be the year to have the o-line ready to compete and start Morrisí first QB
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 07:50:45 am
I didnít see any exceptional potential talent from Noland that makes me think he would for sure be the starter. I could see Ty playing next year while the freshman redshirts. Then 2020 would be the year to have the o-line ready to compete and start Morrisí first QB

I saw something different than you did for sure.  I saw velocity on his passes, accuracy, and good reads against a unique 3-3-5 defense.  I saw elusiveness to get away from a collapsing pocket and I saw speed on roll outs.  I saw a REAL threat to run the ball on the RPO that opens up the potential of the RPO.  By the 2nd qtr you could see the defenders playing the RPO differently by not focusing as much on Boyd because of the fear of Connor taking off.  Their new focus on Connor opened up the run lane a bit more for Boyd too.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Athog on October 23, 2018, 07:50:58 am
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Yes indeed!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Been10Hog on October 23, 2018, 07:53:48 am
Don't understand the naysayers because of our record. If KB comes he will get national exposure against Bama, LSU, Auburn aTm etc......Look how much love Ty Storey got for leading us to 31 points in a loss to Bama. With our SECW schedule if KB can move our offense up and down the field passing and running, whether we win or not, he will get excellent national TV exposure for scouts to see.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 23, 2018, 07:56:36 am
I saw something different than you did for sure.  I saw velocity on his passes, accuracy, and good reads against a unique 3-3-5 defense.  I saw elusiveness to get away from a collapsing pocket and I saw speed on roll outs.  I saw a REAL threat to run the ball on the RPO that opens up the potential of the RPO.  By the 2nd qtr you could see the defenders playing the RPO differently by not focusing as much on Boyd because of the fear of Connor taking off.  Their new focus on Connor opened up the run lane a bit more for Boyd too.

He did fine for a freshman, but I didnt watch him and think "dang, that kid has IT and he's gonna be a stud".   He didnt show any more speed or running ability than Ty has against better competition.  Not taking anything from CN, but like I said, I would lean towards Ty playing next year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 07:59:07 am
I believe KB has a lot of respect for Chad. I also know he trust Chad to be straight up with him about his opportunity. But Chad will not promise him anything. I believe they feel they have a great chance, but he hasn't announced so always the possibility he goes elsewhere. But they feel pretty good about it! Remember he can go to a really great Team. But some will say the  Team was already great. He can come to the Hogs and make a Huge difference.

He has one year to make a splash as the man.  He can't afford to go to a team with even a slightly different Offense, because he will spend too much time learning the offense.  He won't play as fast because his instincts of 4 years will be clouded with the new offense.   I would want to go somewhere that I could start, be productive instantly.  You need to be a respected leader which is a function of productivity and charisma.   Productivity is possible if you know the offense and trust the coaches.  Arkansas is the single best place for him to be productive while also knowing and trusting his HC and the OC.   KB knows what kind of offense CCM and JC call and that is TRUST too.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 08:04:09 am
He did fine for a freshman, but I didnt watch him and think "dang, that kid has IT and he's gonna be a stud".   He didnt show any more speed or running ability than Ty has against better competition.  Not taking anything from CN, but like I said, I would lean towards Ty playing next year.

IMO Connor is far superior to Ty in lateral quickness and elusiveness.   Connor has better accuracy and he showed better arm strength on the long ball.  He is doing all of this as a TRUE FR and Ty is in his 4th year in the program.  He did this as a first time starter with only a few snaps against UNT and it was against a unique 3-3-5 defense.  IMO Connor will start next year if KB doesn't come here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 23, 2018, 08:20:32 am
Next years O.

https://twitter.com/arkansashogpen/status/1054172213228789760?s=21
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: tusked on October 23, 2018, 08:24:24 am
Next years O.

https://twitter.com/arkansashogpen/status/1054172213228789760?s=21

That's a bowl team.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 08:27:39 am
That's a bowl team.

Quite possibly.  It is an impressive set of WR, TE and QB talent for sure.  This Oline did quite well against A&M, Bama, OM and then played pretty good against Tulsa with 2 starting OL out.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: woodhog14 on October 23, 2018, 12:50:54 pm
The same folks griping about losing are the ones griping about Morris trying to make the team better.

Lolololoooool
EXACTLY!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: arthurhawgerelli on October 23, 2018, 01:06:05 pm
That's a bowl team.

Pump the breaks.  When was the last bowl team that was led by 5 freshmen?  One of them just had ACL surgery. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: alohawg on October 23, 2018, 01:13:17 pm


You're showing your age if this made you lol like me.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 23, 2018, 01:14:23 pm
OK. 3-4 weeks ago I had my starting QB spot given to SOMEONE else. I look at my options. Need someone I can trust as obviously my current coach is not in my corner which I really don't get(neither do I and yes I know all the angles with the freshman). My final year and I get this crap. Wait a minit, new rules out there. I might have a break here. Now, Who do I trust,where do I start? I know someone whose shot me straight before........
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Grizzlyfan on October 23, 2018, 04:00:36 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pork Ranger on October 23, 2018, 04:11:24 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?

Depends on how he finishes this year Iíd guess.  I feel like heíll stay regardless.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: H2OHog on October 23, 2018, 04:11:46 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?

Transfer to to Central Arkansas, or if he can get enough credit for a degree, a better school.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 04:17:13 pm
OK. 3-4 weeks ago I had my starting QB spot given to SOMEONE else. I look at my options. Need someone I can trust as obviously my current coach is not in my corner which I really don't get(neither do I and yes I know all the angles with the freshman). My final year and I get this crap. Wait a minit, new rules out there. I might have a break here. Now, Who do I trust,where do I start? I know someone whose shot me straight before........

Winner winner, chicken dinner
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: liljo on October 23, 2018, 04:17:31 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?
What Ty has always done. Compete.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 247Hog on October 23, 2018, 04:30:41 pm
 First off, i really have enjoyed watching Ty develop each game. I love he is an Arkansas boy not far from where im from. I love he reminds me of Tyler Wilson when it comes to being tough. I am very very thankful for his effort from the day he stepped on campus...but what is Ty's record? What is Kelly Bryants record? I can love a certain player but not at the expense of the team. Bryant is 16-2 and played in the college playoffs. Your favorite player can be Ty and at the same time want Kelly to be here next season. Some act like it's the same as divorced parents and you have to choose between the two. I choose both and hope they both make the Hogs better next season.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hog of steele on October 23, 2018, 04:31:11 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?

Ty should do what is best for himself. I love that the players have more freedom to transfer under the new rules. I hope they continue to open that up.

Ty should use every avenue available to him to achieve his goals. If he thinks he is an  NFL QB and wants to get starts to show that, he should do what it takes to get there. If he thinks college is his top maybe sticking around to learn from the coach is the right move.

Coach has to do what is best for the team. Players have to do what is best for them.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 23, 2018, 04:42:31 pm
First off, i really have enjoyed watching Ty develop each game. I love he is an Arkansas boy not far from where im from. I love he reminds me of Tyler Wilson when it comes to being tough. I am very very thankful for his effort from the day he stepped on campus...but what is Ty's record? What is Kelly Bryants record? I can love a certain player but not at the expense of the team. Bryant is 16-2 and played in the college playoffs. Your favorite player can be Ty and at the same time want Kelly to be here next season. Some act like it's the same as divorced parents and you have to choose between the two. I choose both and hope they both make the Hogs better next season.

A level headed response...you sir are in rare air
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LAHogfan123 on October 23, 2018, 05:00:41 pm
Ty should do what is best for himself. I love that the players have more freedom to transfer under the new rules. I hope they continue to open that up.

Ty should use every avenue available to him to achieve his goals. If he thinks he is an  NFL QB and wants to get starts to show that, he should do what it takes to get there. If he thinks college is his top maybe sticking around to learn from the coach is the right move.

Coach has to do what is best for the team. Players have to do what is best for them.

IMO which doesn't amount to much in regards to TS he isn't and NFL QB, so I would stay here and compete.  I'm not sure but he may have already used his redshirt year and if KB does end up coming here I'm 100% sure he'll be our QB next season, so Ty would have to just sit on the bench and if there was any 2nd team reps I'm sure they would go to a QB that's going to be here after KB is gone, meaning not Storey.  If TS wants to indeed play, he would have no choice but to transfer, I would hate that but that's the way it is, UCA has a freshman QB starting this year I believe, if so, they might would want to continue with his maturation instead of going with and incoming QB, but that would be where I'd want Ty Storey to go if anywhere, UCA has been a good landing spot for many Razorbacks in the past, and I pull for them 2nd to the Hogs over any other College team in Arkansas.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OkieBack on October 23, 2018, 05:05:56 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?

Ty needs to stay put.  By all accounts KB would be a premium QB coming in to play at Arkansas, but as much as the fan base drools over KB's athleticism, the coaches are going to play the person who can run the offense and give the team the best chance to win.  If KB can pick up the offense immediately then he most undoubtedly would get the nod from the get go.  But I think everyone assumes KB could step in Game #1 and thread the needle, timing and all, and be the starter hands down.  As good as he may be it's still not that simple or easy of a decision.

I could see Ty starting the season at least as the most experienced QB in the Morris system, however depending on who is #2 or #3 on the depth chart and how quickly they progress in the system...it could get very interesting by Game #4 or #5.  And I'm not saying there would be a QB controversy.  I simply think Ty will have the most experience running this offense to at least start off 2019.  As the other QB's progress, learn and perform...then it becomes a game to game decision I think.  Either way it would be a great compliment to have a mentor program going on until one of our  young QB's could take the reins.  Obviously KB doesn't have that much time so his situation would probably warrant the starting position sooner rather than later.

Bottom line...whether KB appears in Fayetteville or someplace else I don't see it affecting Morris bringing in and developing a top notch QB.  I honestly could see someone like KJ Jefferson coming in and learning the ropes under someone like Storey next year and really commanding this offense at some point 2019-2020. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 23, 2018, 05:26:36 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?
I contact Tonya Harding, give her a Louisville slugger and tell her to do work.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LAHogfan123 on October 23, 2018, 05:41:26 pm
Ty needs to stay put.  By all accounts KB would be a premium QB coming in to play at Arkansas, but as much as the fan base drools over KB's athleticism, the coaches are going to play the person who can run the offense and give the team the best chance to win.  If KB can pick up the offense immediately then he most undoubtedly would get the nod from the get go.  But I think everyone assumes KB could step in Game #1 and thread the needle, timing and all, and be the starter hands down.  As good as he may be it's still not that simple or easy of a decision.

I could see Ty starting the season at least as the most experienced QB in the Morris system, however depending on who is #2 or #3 on the depth chart and how quickly they progress in the system...it could get very interesting by Game #4 or #5.  And I'm not saying there would be a QB controversy.  I simply think Ty will have the most experience running this offense to at least start off 2019.  As the other QB's progress, learn and perform...then it becomes a game to game decision I think.  Either way it would be a great compliment to have a mentor program going on until one of our  young QB's could take the reins.  Obviously KB doesn't have that much time so his situation would probably warrant the starting position sooner rather than later.

Bottom line...whether KB appears in Fayetteville or someplace else I don't see it affecting Morris bringing in and developing a top notch QB.  I honestly could see someone like KJ Jefferson coming in and learning the ropes under someone like Storey next year and really commanding this offense at some point 2019-2020.

I know most think that CCM will start the one that proves that they can play the best, but I guarantee that whoever gets KB he will start every game of the season he's there unless he gets hurt, or he won't be coming.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: East TN HAWG on October 23, 2018, 05:58:19 pm
That's a bowl team.
You canít count FR immediately.  Bryant with Boyd, OíGrady, Woods, Pettway make this a bowl team next year.  A fifth year senior like Bryant making sound decisions is a difference maker.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 23, 2018, 06:05:04 pm
I know most think that CCM will start the one that proves that they can play the best, but I guarantee that whoever gets KB he will start every game of the season he's there unless he gets hurt, or he won't be coming.

Yep, he's not some scrub going somewhere to compete for the starting job.  He will go to the school that says we know what you can do and want you to be the guy from day one.  There is enough body of work out there for him that any school courting him should know whether or not he would be their starter. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cornstock on October 23, 2018, 06:22:44 pm
Dwayne Haskins was a top recruit, has been really good this season (as recently as pre-game against Purdue he was being talking about for the Heisman), and is only a true Sophomore (So, definitely returning). No way Bryant would go to Ohio State.


Dwayne Haskins is a redshirt sophomore so he will be draft eligible in April 2019. I've seen a couple internet rumors saying that Haskins could possibly go pro after this year, and there has even been speculation that Urban Meyer could retire again after this year. If for some reason Meyer does leave then I think it's quite possible that Haskins goes pro.

However, even if Haskins were to leave that doesn't put Bryant into the mix at OSU. If Meyer were to choose to retire again after this year then that would take the chance from maybe 5 percent to less than 1 percent. Ohio State has talent at QB even without Haskins that would threaten KB's chances to be the starter which would eliminate them from the picture.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PorkFromOrk on October 23, 2018, 06:28:24 pm


Now thatís a blast from the past.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 23, 2018, 06:37:44 pm
I might be in the minority here... but if I was on this team: I would rather ride or die with the guy taking the licks while everyone is struggling than jump on the bandwagon of a kid who tucked tail and ran at the first sign of adversity. This team doesn't need flavor of the month. It needs leadership. This program needs a banner carrier... not just a leader, but someone that can force the others to come up and adapt the culture level of toughness. Gotta have that for the hard times... otherwise you're just setting the program up for more hand-holding and coddling like the previous regime.

I personally don't see him coming if they don't promise him the starting job. If he wanted to work at something, he would have stayed in Clemson. Just like the kid from Earl who would only come if Noland got his offer pulled. If he is promised the spot... that opens up a whole other can of worms that never should be opened.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 23, 2018, 07:04:44 pm
I might be in the minority here... but if I was on this team: I would rather ride or die with the guy taking the licks while everyone is struggling than jump on the bandwagon of a kid who tucked tail and ran at the first sign of adversity. This team doesn't need flavor of the month. It needs leadership. This program needs a banner carrier... not just a leader, but someone that can force the others to come up and adapt the culture level of toughness. Gotta have that for the hard times... otherwise you're just setting the program up for more hand-holding and coddling like the previous regime.

I personally don't see him coming if they don't promise him the starting job. If he wanted to work at something, he would have stayed in Clemson. Just like the kid from Earl who would only come if Noland got his offer pulled. If he is promised the spot... that opens up a whole other can of worms that never should be opened.

He was benched to the #1 true freshmen Qb recruit. He wasnít going to see the field again unless blowouts by 4th quarter. So I disagree with your fairy tail about how KB doesnít wanna work, heís going to be working to get us to the next level
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rhames on October 23, 2018, 07:07:07 pm
I might be in the minority here... but if I was on this team: I would rather ride or die with the guy taking the licks while everyone is struggling than jump on the bandwagon of a kid who tucked tail and ran at the first sign of adversity. This team doesn't need flavor of the month. It needs leadership. This program needs a banner carrier... not just a leader, but someone that can force the others to come up and adapt the culture level of toughness. Gotta have that for the hard times... otherwise you're just setting the program up for more hand-holding and coddling like the previous regime.

I personally don't see him coming if they don't promise him the starting job. If he wanted to work at something, he would have stayed in Clemson. Just like the kid from Earl who would only come if Noland got his offer pulled. If he is promised the spot... that opens up a whole other can of worms that never should be opened.


I see where you're coming from to a degree....


But I'd venture to say if you asked most of the players if they wanted Bryant, they would say yes


Again this is no different of a situation than recruiting freshmen to come in and play. Heck it happened to Bryant. He gives the team a chance to be much better than they are right now. You take him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 23, 2018, 07:17:55 pm

Dwayne Haskins is a redshirt sophomore so he will be draft eligible in April 2019. I've seen a couple internet rumors saying that Haskins could possibly go pro after this year, and there has even been speculation that Urban Meyer could retire again after this year. If for some reason Meyer does leave then I think it's quite possible that Haskins goes pro.

However, even if Haskins were to leave that doesn't put Bryant into the mix at OSU. If Meyer were to choose to retire again after this year then that would take the chance from maybe 5 percent to less than 1 percent. Ohio State has talent at QB even without Haskins that would threaten KB's chances to be the starter which would eliminate them from the picture.




Didn't realize he had redshirted. I just went and looked at the OSU roster and didn't see Rs Soph. so I thought he might still be true soph (See that he did redshirt on Wikipedia now). But I think you're right he could leave after this season then because he is pretty good. I think the thing is though is Kelly Bryant willing to wait until Jan. 15th to make a decision? Because at some of these better programs with good returning starters that have decisions to make could be undecided on the NFL until Jan 15h (the decision deadline). We have a poster on here that was around Bryant a lot this weekend that was told by Bryant that at this point his decision is probably gonna be in late November. If that is the case he's probably not going to a school that he has to risk competing with a good returning starter. Another thing to consider at OSU (as you alluded to) is Tate Martell. He looks to be pretty talented himself. Does Bryant want to compete with Martell who was another highly rated recruit that has been in that offense for a while at this point.



Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 23, 2018, 07:20:10 pm
Bryant is the #1 qb the second he steps on campus. Thatís just the reality of it.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 23, 2018, 07:25:28 pm

I see where you're coming from to a degree....


But I'd venture to say if you asked most of the players if they wanted Bryant, they would say yes


Again this is no different of a situation than recruiting freshmen to come in and play. Heck it happened to Bryant. He gives the team a chance to be much better than they are right now. You take him.
lots of current players and recruits following KB on Twitter..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HognitiveDissonance on October 23, 2018, 08:04:45 pm
First off, i really have enjoyed watching Ty develop each game. I love he is an Arkansas boy not far from where im from. I love he reminds me of Tyler Wilson when it comes to being tough. I am very very thankful for his effort from the day he stepped on campus...but what is Ty's record? What is Kelly Bryants record? I can love a certain player but not at the expense of the team. Bryant is 16-2 and played in the college playoffs. Your favorite player can be Ty and at the same time want Kelly to be here next season. Some act like it's the same as divorced parents and you have to choose between the two. I choose both and hope they both make the Hogs better next season.
->but what is Ty's record? What is Kelly Bryants record? I can love a certain player but not at the expense of the team. Bryant is 16-2 and played in the college ->

Ty is 0-0, and Kelly is 0-0.
Sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine.
I realize QB is the most important position on the field.
But people take this too far.
Football is the ultimate team game.
It's like saying Greg McElroy won a national championship as a QB, so he's superior to someone who didn't. Did he? Or did Alabama win that title? Alabama did, not the QB.
Likewise, Clemson as a team and program made the Playoffs. Not Kelly Bryant. That's an asinine thing to use as a comparison between Storey and Bryant.
For one thing, Clemson has four defensive linemen who could be NFL first-rounders.

Put Storey on Alabama in 2009 instead of McElroy and it says here Alabama still wins the national title.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 23, 2018, 08:12:32 pm
If you are Ty Storey and Bryant commits to spend a season here, what do you do?

Iím of the belief that weíll lose 2 or 3 QBs if KB comes. I think Cole is gone regardless due to not being the best fit for the system. Kid has a great arm and Iíd root for him unless heís playing the Hogs. I would obviously also see Ty leaving to go get some playing time (I.e UCA). Lastly, I think Hyatt could leave given the other guys we would have that would be fighting for time with potentially one less year (assuming KB starts next year) to work with.  I would also expect some more QB attrition (1 or 2 leave) the following year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: chaz on October 23, 2018, 10:28:28 pm
I contact Tonya Harding, give her a Louisville slugger and tell her to do work.

LOL,  While it was effective its not recommended
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on October 23, 2018, 10:42:44 pm
I thought KB said a while back he already knew where he was going.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 23, 2018, 11:16:57 pm
I saw tonight where someone said we have just started recruiting a juco qb, that skert me a little bit.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 24, 2018, 12:04:10 am
->but what is Ty's record? What is Kelly Bryants record? I can love a certain player but not at the expense of the team. Bryant is 16-2 and played in the college ->

Ty is 0-0, and Kelly is 0-0.
Sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine.
I realize QB is the most important position on the field.
But people take this too far.
Football is the ultimate team game.
It's like saying Greg McElroy won a national championship as a QB, so he's superior to someone who didn't. Did he? Or did Alabama win that title? Alabama did, not the QB.
Likewise, Clemson as a team and program made the Playoffs. Not Kelly Bryant. That's an asinine thing to use as a comparison between Storey and Bryant.
For one thing, Clemson has four defensive linemen who could be NFL first-rounders.

Put Storey on Alabama in 2009 instead of McElroy and it says here Alabama still wins the national title.

Agree with your general premise. However, disagree that Ty QBing the 2009 Bama wins the NC
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogsInaBlanket on October 24, 2018, 08:25:13 am
Bryant is the #1 qb the second he steps on campus. Thatís just the reality of it.

and it isn't even close. not to mention the intangibles he brings by coming from a winning program. He would be expecting to win close games in the 4th quarter. This would be big for a program that manages to lose nearly all of those games.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Been10Hog on October 24, 2018, 09:15:56 am
Agree with your general premise. However, disagree that Ty QBing the 2009 Bama wins the NC
Ty was raked higher than McElroy! And, we signed QB higher than him that year as well, MM. Ty's year we also later had Ricky Town. Point is, Ty was highly regarded at the time. Not just a "good ole Arkansas boy"

https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/Football/2006/PRO

https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/Football/2015/PRO
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GA reddiehog on October 24, 2018, 09:24:23 am
You all are fretting over nothing, KB is not coming to the Hogs.  If he was coming, he would have already committed knowing it would improve recruiting and his chances of success.  Clemson fans say it will not be Hogs.  Most are saying Oregon.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 24, 2018, 09:27:59 am
You all are fretting over nothing, KB is not coming to the Hogs.  If he was coming, he would have already committed knowing it would improve recruiting and his chances of success.  Clemson fans say it will not be Hogs.  Most are saying Oregon.

I don't think ANY one knows what he is going to do including him.  What you see on here is HOPE that he would come here because none of us know anything about it.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Been10Hog on October 24, 2018, 09:31:55 am
I think it would be highly unlikely for KB, an East Coast kid, to go to a West Coast school without having a relationship with anyone on the staff. Hasn't even visited Oregon! Trolling....?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 24, 2018, 09:32:07 am
If KB doesn't come to Arkansas, you can be sure that Ty will be competing for his job with Connor Noland and maybe KJ Jefferson.  KJ will have a lot to learn when he gets here.  CN will probably be the starter for the first game or definitely before mid season.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Grizzlyfan on October 24, 2018, 09:40:34 am
He was benched to the #1 true freshmen Qb recruit. He wasnít going to see the field again unless blowouts by 4th quarter. So I disagree with your fairy tail about how KB doesnít wanna work, heís going to be working to get us to the next level
so Bryant didn't want to stay at Clemson and keep fighting for the starting job, or be ready if this wonder kid is injured along the way, but he will fight, fight, fight to take Arkansas to the next level?  Sorry, I don't buy that.  I agree with a lot of what Spektre said.  I don't see how Bryant helps our long term rebuilding process. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 24, 2018, 09:49:35 am
You all are fretting over nothing, KB is not coming to the Hogs.  If he was coming, he would have already committed knowing it would improve recruiting and his chances of success.  Clemson fans say it will not be Hogs.  Most are saying Oregon.

You are incorrect. Chances are significantly higher he comes here than anywhere else. A good fan showing on Saturday would have sealed it, which didn't happen, but our chances are still better than anyone else.

When you have only one year to play you don't just blindly commit to a school super early in the process in hopes of improving a recruiting class, players many of whom you will never even play with. It's more about what is best for you at this point than the school, and understandably so. So no, he would not have already committed.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 24, 2018, 09:51:36 am
so Bryant didn't want to stay at Clemson and keep fighting for the starting job, or be ready if this wonder kid is injured along the way, but he will fight, fight, fight to take Arkansas to the next level?  Sorry, I don't buy that.  I agree with a lot of what Spektre said.  I don't see how Bryant helps our long term rebuilding process. 

I think winning will help recruiting.......
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 24, 2018, 09:54:50 am
so Bryant didn't want to stay at Clemson and keep fighting for the starting job, or be ready if this wonder kid is injured along the way, but he will fight, fight, fight to take Arkansas to the next level?  Sorry, I don't buy that.  I agree with a lot of what Spektre said.  I don't see how Bryant helps our long term rebuilding process. 
Here is the answer, in two parts:

1) The chances of going to a bowl and winning that bowl next year will be improved. Achieving a bowl and getting all the additional attention and *bowl practices* are critical to a rebuild.

2) KB knows the entire offense. Right now we are only able to run a small percentage. It will be like having a coach on the field in terms of being able to aggressively install next Spring and Fall because he knows the protections, knows the reads, etc. He will be able to help the rest of the offense execute more of the playbook and do so better.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgfan4life on October 24, 2018, 10:03:36 am
A level headed response...you sir are in rare air

There is nothing wrong with fans wanting any transfer and nothing wrong with competition.  Pre-judging the outcome based on results in programs light years apart is unwise.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Melancholy_Pigg on October 24, 2018, 10:05:40 am

I don't buy the no-work ethic theory on KB.  Pretend you are him.  You really going to just be content to in all probability ride-the-pine the rest of your career?  I think it actually speaks very well of him that he is transferring.  He is determined to make a contribution.  He also knows when it ain't gonna happen and he is decisive enough to deal with that situation.

Baker Mayfield wouldn't have won the Heismann had he stuck around in his situation at Texas Tech.

Just saying.   
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PharmacistHog on October 24, 2018, 10:13:05 am
You all are fretting over nothing, KB is not coming to the Hogs.  If he was coming, he would have already committed knowing it would improve recruiting and his chances of success.  Clemson fans say it will not be Hogs.  Most are saying Oregon.

You are simply a troll poster.  I just looked at ALL your posts and everything you post is negative.  You are no hog fan and I'm not sure why you even bother to post since you seem to hate all things razorback.  Once I saw your post about the damn BASEBALL hogs last year were not championship caliber and had no chance to win that pretty much tells the tale.  This site would be a lot better if you would see yourself out the door. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 24, 2018, 10:19:24 am
Or the kid got a really raw deal at Clemson and is a steal for whomever gets him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: arthurhawgerelli on October 24, 2018, 10:28:31 am
Transfer to to Central Arkansas, or if he can get enough credit for a degree, a better school.

Ty has his undergraduate degree.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wildturkey8 on October 24, 2018, 10:57:18 am
I don't think Ty will transfer.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Oklahawg on October 24, 2018, 10:59:09 am
I saw tonight where someone said we have just started recruiting a juco qb, that skert me a little bit.

Not true, last I heard.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 24, 2018, 11:01:54 am
Bring him in if he wants to come. I'm tired of catering to peoples' feelings, put the best players on the field. Kelly Bryant is in another stratosphere compared to any quarterback we have on the roster.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: bulldog04 on October 24, 2018, 11:05:42 am
Not true, last I heard.
The JUCO crop of QBs isnít very strong so I donít see why we would go after one
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 24, 2018, 12:45:30 pm
Not true, last I heard.
sure hope so
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hawgman on October 24, 2018, 12:48:49 pm
Bring him in if he wants to come. I'm tired of catering to peoples' feelings, put the best players on the field. Kelly Bryant is in another stratosphere compared to any quarterback we have on the roster.
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When this came up I said 60/40 hogs
My GUESS is now 70/30 hogs
Bowl game next year and a 9-4 record after bowl game
MY GUESS is good as anybodyís on here. We will see
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogfan14 on October 24, 2018, 01:17:03 pm
Pretty simple to me, do you want two good senior QBs or just one? If Bryant beats out Storey and he transfers then well we got the better QB regardless so it's a win-win.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgwash on October 24, 2018, 01:49:17 pm
I saw tonight where someone said we have just started recruiting a juco qb, that skert me a little bit.
Someone just posted on the Recruiting Forum that Danny West received a text from KJ saying he's 110% Razorback.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 24, 2018, 02:07:34 pm
Someone just posted on the Recruiting Forum that Danny West received a text from KJ saying he's 110% Razorback.

WPS!!!!  Bring him on!!!  Let him join the QB competition.......and let the best QB lead the team...whomever that is....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 24, 2018, 02:09:15 pm
WPS!!!!  Bring him on!!!  Let him join the QB competition.......and let the best QB lead the team...whomever that is....

Was it ever a doubt that Jefferson was coming tho? 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 24, 2018, 02:15:00 pm
Someone just posted on the Recruiting Forum that Danny West received a text from KJ saying he's 110% Razorback.

link??
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 24, 2018, 02:25:51 pm
link??
KJ, not KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 03:25:02 pm
Again, I said I was probably in the minority on this. It also has nothing to do with hurting feelings. My view is you prove more as a team, a culture, and as a coaching staff if you show that you can develop and win with the standing army you have rather than a mercenary for hire. This is especially prevalent when you can do it with guys that were recruited for a system that is the polar opposite of what you're running. Considering how he has developed already, if Storey had the full season and a center that could snap the ball... I don't even see KB coming for a visit. I also don't see anyone who loses their job and immediately transfers being mentally tough enough to take the same shots Storey has, get back up, and ask for more without casting blame or making excuses.

Winning helps recruiting. Of course. Recruiting is on par or better currently than when Petrino was here and we were battling for a top spot nationally... and we're at the bottom of the bottom. Establishing a culture of "Grit and Grind" toughness HAS to happen to learn to win consistently. Yes, I'm pulling from the Memphis Grizzlies slogan because that is a pretty decent comparison... small market team without the grandeur of the others, but thrived on building that culture and developing their players). Winning will come, regardless of who is at the helm. Will we win more with KB or Storey... who knows, but the difference in 2 wins either way won't make THAT much of a difference because we'll get in a bowl next year with either at the helm, and both will be gone after the season ends. Bielema left us soft, and we've seen the roll over and die mentality bite us time and again this year. Coaches can only do so much to break that. You have to have a player and leader ON the field to lead everyone out of that tunnel... and my bet would be Storey 1000% over someone transferring because he got his feelings hurt and didn't even want to TRY to earn HIS spot back.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 24, 2018, 03:40:05 pm
Again, I said I was probably in the minority on this. It also has nothing to do with hurting feelings. My view is you prove more as a team, a culture, and as a coaching staff if you show that you can develop and win with the standing army you have rather than a mercenary for hire. This is especially prevalent when you can do it with guys that were recruited for a system that is the polar opposite of what you're running. Considering how he has developed already, if Storey had the full season and a center that could snap the ball... I don't even see KB coming for a visit. I also don't see anyone who loses their job and immediately transfers being mentally tough enough to take the same shots Storey has, get back up, and ask for more without casting blame or making excuses.

Winning helps recruiting. Of course. Recruiting is on par or better currently than when Petrino was here and we were battling for a top spot nationally... and we're at the bottom of the bottom. Establishing a culture of "Grit and Grind" toughness HAS to happen to learn to win consistently. Yes, I'm pulling from the Memphis Grizzlies slogan because that is a pretty decent comparison... small market team without the grandeur of the others, but thrived on building that culture and developing their players). Winning will come, regardless of who is at the helm. Will we win more with KB or Storey... who knows, but the difference in 2 wins either way won't make THAT much of a difference because we'll get in a bowl next year with either at the helm, and both will be gone after the season ends. Bielema left us soft, and we've seen the roll over and die mentality bite us time and again this year. Coaches can only do so much to break that. You have to have a player and leader ON the field to lead everyone out of that tunnel... and my bet would be Storey 1000% over someone transferring because he got his feelings hurt and didn't even want to TRY to earn HIS spot back.

You're overthinking it. We haven't had a good quarterback for so long that I think some of you guys forget what one looks like. Everyone admires Storey because he's from here and he has taken some shots and continued to fight, but he still isn't the quarterback this offense needs. He just isn't. Throwing dink and dunk passes to runningbacks and tight ends only gets you so far. I don't think we would make a bowl with him playing QB next year. KB? Absolutely.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 24, 2018, 03:41:53 pm
KJ, not KB.

I guess I misread that since this a KB thread...lol.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: a0ashle on October 24, 2018, 03:43:31 pm
Again, I said I was probably in the minority on this. It also has nothing to do with hurting feelings. My view is you prove more as a team, a culture, and as a coaching staff if you show that you can develop and win with the standing army you have rather than a mercenary for hire. This is especially prevalent when you can do it with guys that were recruited for a system that is the polar opposite of what you're running. Considering how he has developed already, if Storey had the full season and a center that could snap the ball... I don't even see KB coming for a visit. I also don't see anyone who loses their job and immediately transfers being mentally tough enough to take the same shots Storey has, get back up, and ask for more without casting blame or making excuses.

Winning helps recruiting. Of course. Recruiting is on par or better currently than when Petrino was here and we were battling for a top spot nationally... and we're at the bottom of the bottom. Establishing a culture of "Grit and Grind" toughness HAS to happen to learn to win consistently. Yes, I'm pulling from the Memphis Grizzlies slogan because that is a pretty decent comparison... small market team without the grandeur of the others, but thrived on building that culture and developing their players). Winning will come, regardless of who is at the helm. Will we win more with KB or Storey... who knows, but the difference in 2 wins either way won't make THAT much of a difference because we'll get in a bowl next year with either at the helm, and both will be gone after the season ends. Bielema left us soft, and we've seen the roll over and die mentality bite us time and again this year. Coaches can only do so much to break that. You have to have a player and leader ON the field to lead everyone out of that tunnel... and my bet would be Storey 1000% over someone transferring because he got his feelings hurt and didn't even want to TRY to earn HIS spot back.

So crazy that our fanbase can argue over whether we want a 16-2 power 5 starting QB with playoff experience on our team.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 24, 2018, 03:48:51 pm
So crazy that our fanbase can argue over whether we want a 16-2 power 5 starting QB with playoff experience on our team.

Insanity. Gotta be the densest fan base in the country. Luckily, I'm absolutely certain Coach Morris is taking suggestions for how to manage his roster from every Lester, Fran, and Uncle Jasper that shows up at the Catfish Hole.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 24, 2018, 03:50:13 pm
So crazy that our fanbase can argue over whether we want a 16-2 power 5 starting QB with playoff experience on our team.

Its quite insane. I dont get it either.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: a0ashle on October 24, 2018, 03:53:52 pm
Insanity. Gotta be the densest fan base in the country. Luckily, I'm absolutely certain Coach Morris is taking suggestions for how to manage his roster from every Lester, Fran, and Uncle Jasper that shows up at the Catfish Hole.

Everyone can have an opinion but making up character flaws to tear the kid down should be a ban, imho.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 24, 2018, 04:20:56 pm
Everyone can have an opinion but making up character flaws to tear the kid down should be a ban, imho.

Agreed, nobody that's not in his inner circle knows anything about the real reasons why he left. If I were to guess, it's because he felt he had done his due diligence and waited his turn and was not given the opportunity he waited for. I think it's funny that people are so quick to throw stones when they would do the exact same thing 99 times out of 100 if given the choice.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 04:29:44 pm
Everyone can have an opinion but making up character flaws to tear the kid down should be a ban, imho.

Saying what every sportscaster said the day he declared to transfer. It was cowardly. Also, there would be other options other than TE and short passes if we had WR's with any degree of break away speed or size... or toughness for that matter. Watching Jared Cornelius get manhandled off the ball quite legally again and again by Tulsa the other day should be a clue... you can't throw passes to guys who aren't open will not be open for the next millennium (which Cole Kelly found out the hard way).

Am I doubting the kid's ability? No. I am emphasizing the fact that the team is soft and it is more important to weed out every pillowy aspect of Bielema's culture than to win 2 extra games, and it is easier to do that with someone who has been there for all the hell and invested than with a Eddie Martel who is only in it to up his draft stock for a year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 04:32:58 pm
Agreed, nobody that's not in his inner circle knows anything about the real reasons why he left. If I were to guess, it's because he felt he had done his due diligence and waited his turn and was not given the opportunity he waited for. I think it's funny that people are so quick to throw stones when they would do the exact same thing 99 times out of 100 if given the choice.

The opportunity he waited for? He was the starting QB and lost his spot like Jalen Hurts did with Tua. He had opportunity, and a chance to earn the job back literally the game after he declared to transfer when his replacement went down. As soon as he found out he wasn't starting, he bolted.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 24, 2018, 04:33:35 pm
Saying what every sportscaster said the day he declared to transfer. It was cowardly. Also, there would be other options other than TE and short passes if we had WR's with any degree of break away speed or size... or toughness for that matter. Watching Jared Cornelius get manhandled off the ball quite legally again and again by Tulsa the other day should be a clue... you can't throw passes to guys who aren't open will not be open for the next millennium (which Cole Kelly found out the hard way).

Am I doubting the kid's ability? No. I am emphasizing the fact that the team is soft and it is more important to weed out every pillowy aspect of Bielema's culture than to win 2 extra games, and it is easier to do that with someone who has been there for all the hell and invested than with a Ricky Martell who is only in it to up his draft stock for a year.

What this program really needs is a boost in swagger. We've been down for so long that we need a shot in the arm. What you do by having KB here is you instantly become the hot story in college football. Kelly Bryant and Rakeem Boyd in the same backfield is almost too good to be true for publicity. Coach Morris said it's his goal to make it cool to wear the Hog around. He knows what he is doing. Agree with you about the receivers, though. Help is on the way there too.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 24, 2018, 04:35:43 pm
The opportunity he waited for? He was the starting QB and lost his spot like Jalen Hurts did with Tua. He had opportunity, and a chance to earn the job back literally the game after he declared to transfer when his replacement went down. As soon as he found out he wasn't starting, he bolted.

What Jalen is doing is not normal. If he had left, I wouldn't have blamed him for leaving either. He's a grown man, he can do what he wants. This is just a symptom of the new era of college football. Either we get hip to it now or we will be left behind even further.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 24, 2018, 04:41:25 pm
The opportunity he waited for? He was the starting QB and lost his spot like Jalen Hurts did with Tua. He had opportunity, and a chance to earn the job back literally the game after he declared to transfer when his replacement went down. As soon as he found out he wasn't starting, he bolted.
Hurts isn't a graduate and still has a season left after this one, while Kelly's collegiate career would have been over with one more snap.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 04:42:18 pm
Every kid gets a trophy and every kid gets his way is also a new trend. Earning your way isn't popular, but that doesn't make it the wrong way either. I get what you're saying though.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 24, 2018, 04:46:03 pm
Every kid gets a trophy and every kid gets his way is also a new trend. Earning your way isn't popular, but that doesn't make it the wrong way either. I get what you're saying though.

Coaches pursue new opportunities all the time to "do what's best for them."

No problem with players doing the same.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hog of steele on October 24, 2018, 04:46:22 pm
The opportunity he waited for? He was the starting QB and lost his spot like Jalen Hurts did with Tua. He had opportunity, and a chance to earn the job back literally the game after he declared to transfer when his replacement went down. As soon as he found out he wasn't starting, he bolted.

he didn't like the job he was offered. Back up QB wasn't how he wanted to spend his last year of eligibility. Have you ever turned down a job you didn't want? Have you ever quit a job when there was a better deal for you on the table?

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 24, 2018, 05:40:58 pm
Every kid gets a trophy and every kid gets his way is also a new trend. Earning your way isn't popular, but that doesn't make it the wrong way either. I get what you're saying though.

You really think he wouldn't have to prove himself here?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 05:46:57 pm
I think after getting bumped from starter and bolting... he will go to where there is 0% chance of him losing his spot. Someone will absolutely guarantee the kid he will be the starter the full year or he won't go there. If he wanted to work for it, he would have stayed put. Just like ya'll are saying, why go somewhere when there is a better option on the table for you.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 24, 2018, 05:53:44 pm
I think after getting bumped from starter and bolting... he will go to where there is 0% chance of him losing his spot. Someone will absolutely guarantee the kid he will be the starter the full year or he won't go there. If he wanted to work for it, he would have stayed put. Just like ya'll are saying, why go somewhere when there is a better option on the table for you.

Then you have zero faith in CCM and staff.....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 05:58:29 pm
If Storey craps the bed the rest of the year and it is a no brainer, he might come. If he finishes on a hot streak, he won't. I didn't say I didn't have faith in the staff or that is what will be on the table. Someone will put it out there... I just hope it isn't us, especially if we finish strong.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgwash on October 24, 2018, 06:02:02 pm
link??
KJ, not KB.
I guess I misread that since this a KB thread...lol.
Sorry for the confusion.  My comment about KJ was in response to someone who said they heard we offered a JUCO QB and they were concerned.  I took that to mean they were worried KJ Jefferson was going to back out of his commitment.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 24, 2018, 06:20:25 pm
I guess I'm amazed that there are posters on here that actually think that KB would NOT be the starter here next year.

Heck, if he could transfer in tonight, he'd start against Vandy!  And it would be because he's better.

That being said, I hope that all the transfer talk makes every QB on the roster better.  They know they're gonna have to be better to keep a jersey.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 24, 2018, 06:21:48 pm
So crazy that our fanbase can argue over whether we want a 16-2 power 5 starting QB with playoff experience on our team.

I don't consider that 2-3 trolls and negative posters is our "fanbase" in spite of the fact Spektre has been allowed to overwhelm the thread with troll like negativity.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 24, 2018, 06:23:35 pm
If Storey craps the bed the rest of the year and it is a no brainer, he might come. If he finishes on a hot streak, he won't. I didn't say I didn't have faith in the staff or that is what will be on the table. Someone will put it out there... I just hope it isn't us, especially if we finish strong.

Who told you this information?  Did you hear it from KB or his family?   You try to act like you are speaking FACT.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 24, 2018, 06:27:14 pm
Am I the only one that finds it Strange some Folks on here were all for getting Hurts if he redshirted. But some of those Folks now think its wrong to pursue KB. Just Crazy!!! Nothing is certain. I remember Peavy coming to SMU and everyone thought he would start the next Fall. Didn't work out that way! I believe KB comes to Arkansas and wins the job in the Spring rather easily!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 06:45:09 pm
Sorry for being a realist. If he comes and turns out to be the next Cam friggin' Newton, I'll eat my hat. Auburn was in a heck of a lot better situation than we are though, and a one and done doesn't fix the culture that's been a plague for the better part of a decade. Ya'll can look at him like Hercules if you want, but 6-8 wins will be the best result next year we get no matter which one is QB. Whether these boys learn how to take a punch and keep fighting and clawing for everything is an entirely different animal.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 24, 2018, 06:48:28 pm
Sorry for being a realist. If he comes and turns out to be the next Cam friggin' Newton, I'll eat my hat. Auburn was in a heck of a lot better situation than we are though, and a one and done doesn't fix the culture that's been a plague for the better part of a decade. Ya'll can look at him like Hercules if you want, but 6-8 wins will be the best result next year we get no matter which one is QB. Whether these boys learn how to take a punch and keep fighting and clawing for everything is an entirely different animal.

You make a lot of good points, but I think the difference between KB and the current choices is 2-3 more wins.  Maybe not so good for KB, but certainly a trend in the right direction for Hogs football.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 24, 2018, 06:54:59 pm
You make a lot of good points, but I think the difference between KB and the current choices is 2-3 more wins.  Maybe not so good for KB, but certainly a trend in the right direction for Hogs football.

KB know this offense like the back of his hand and is an experienced winner. If KB were here playing QB right now we would have beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss. Maybe even A&M. That would make us 5-3 or 6-2 and that's with our current pieces.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PorkFromOrk on October 24, 2018, 06:56:41 pm
I think after getting bumped from starter and bolting... he will go to where there is 0% chance of him losing his spot. Someone will absolutely guarantee the kid he will be the starter the full year or he won't go there. If he wanted to work for it, he would have stayed put. Just like ya'll are saying, why go somewhere when there is a better option on the table for you.

These statements are ridiculous.  Saying it was cowardly to leave or ďif he wanted to work for itĒ is shortsighted at best.  He was 16-2 as a starter and was beat out in his last year of eligibility by a phenom #1 in the nation quarterback.  On top of that he had already played in 4 games so if he played any more he would be unable to redshirt. The young man earned his degree.  How is he any different than any other grad transfer who moves on to try to earn a starting spot some place else?  He obviously believes he has a shot to play in Sundayís and wants to put himself in a position to prove himself.  Donít know of too many backup QBs who get drafted. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 06:58:26 pm
You make a lot of good points, but I think the difference between KB and the current choices is 2-3 more wins.  Maybe not so good for KB, but certainly a trend in the right direction for Hogs football.

The fact that we can sit here and legitimately believe a bowl is in play for next year with either is a testament to the coaching staff considering the current record. If I was trolling, the sky would be falling, everyone would need firing, and "I'll never go to another game until changes happen because my money is blah, blah, blah."

This is all just my opinion, and I've said 2 wins would be a good guess at the difference between the 2 QBs. Two wins though, in my eyes, wouldn't be enough if other things get fixed long-term by KB not being here. If people can't understand that idea, I'm out of crayons.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 24, 2018, 07:00:04 pm
Sorry for being a realist. If he comes and turns out to be the next Cam friggin' Newton, I'll eat my hat.
I know you are exaggerating a little bit to make a point, but no, he will not be the next Cam Newton (Heisman, National Championship [Auburn was 8-5 before him and 8-5 after him. He was worth 6 wins], #1 Overall Draft Pick).

If that is the bar, well, we all should be prepared to be disappointed.

But does he give us 2 wins? maybe 3? Yes, probably.

Two more wins is huge for program momentum. If we are already a bowl team, that might be the difference between being ranked or not ranked. If we are good enough to be ranked, then that is the difference between a tier 2 bowl and a NYD bowl. And if we are still shaky next year, 2 wins will be enough to get us to a bowl.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 24, 2018, 07:00:57 pm
Two wins though, in my eyes, wouldn't be enough if other things get fixed long-term by KB not being here. If people can't understand that idea, I'm out of crayons.
That is a reasonable position.

I'm sure you can see that people who disagree might also have reasonable positions?

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 24, 2018, 07:04:19 pm
The fact that we can sit here and legitimately believe a bowl is in play for next year with either is a testament to the coaching staff considering the current record. If I was trolling, the sky would be falling, everyone would need firing, and "I'll never go to another game until changes happen because my money is blah, blah, blah."

This is all just my opinion, and I've said 2 wins would be a good guess at the difference between the 2 QBs. Two wins though, in my eyes, wouldn't be enough if other things get fixed long-term by KB not being here. If people can't understand that idea, I'm out of crayons.

Maybe things get fixed quicker because he does come here? It's one of those things that we obviously have no idea today, and may not be able to determine at the end of next season.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 07:07:08 pm
KB know this offense like the back of his hand and is an experienced winner. If KB were here playing QB right now we would have beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss. Maybe even A&M. That would make us 5-3 or 6-2 and that's with our current pieces.

Because a good QB can make our center not snap the ball almost out of the reach of a JUMPING 6'7 grown man, make our WRs taller, faster, tougher, our O-line seasoned veterans, and our RBs immune to injury. It's a TEAM GAME for gods sake. Just because one person does their job doesn't mean everyone else will. That thought is asinine.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 24, 2018, 07:09:17 pm
KB has such a higher ceiling in this offense than Ty. Fact. Give me the better player all day every day.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 24, 2018, 07:10:56 pm
The fact that we can sit here and legitimately believe a bowl is in play for next year with either is a testament to the coaching staff considering the current record. If I was trolling, the sky would be falling, everyone would need firing, and "I'll never go to another game until changes happen because my money is blah, blah, blah."

This is all just my opinion, and I've said 2 wins would be a good guess at the difference between the 2 QBs. Two wins though, in my eyes, wouldn't be enough if other things get fixed long-term by KB not being here. If people can't understand that idea, I'm out of crayons.

2 wins easy, but I got to think it's more. Just look at this season. This offense and just in general at this point in football is all about the QB. We for sure beat CSU and Ole Miss. Just look at those game with what we currently have. And I'm fairly confident KB doesn't throw 6 picks verse UNT and we win that game. I think just looking at this season the difference is 3 wins.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 24, 2018, 07:12:27 pm
Because a good QB can make our center not snap the ball almost out of the reach of a JUMPING 6'7 grown man, make our WRs taller, faster, tougher, our O-line seasoned veterans, and our RBs immune to injury. It's a TEAM GAME for gods sake. Just because one person does their job doesn't mean everyone else will. That thought is asinine.

The QB is the most influential player on the team. Are you aware they touch the ball every play? Nearly every decision goes through him. Tyler Wilson has interesting things to say about the QB in the Morris offense because of his responsibility in RPO and zone reads.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 24, 2018, 07:18:06 pm
I know you are exaggerating a little bit to make a point, but no, he will not be the next Cam Newton (Heisman, National Championship [Auburn was 8-5 before him and 8-5 after him. He was worth 6 wins], #1 Overall Draft Pick).

If that is the bar, well, we all should be prepared to be disappointed.

But does he give us 2 wins? maybe 3? Yes, probably.

Two more wins is huge for program momentum. If we are already a bowl team, that might be the difference between being ranked or not ranked. If we are good enough to be ranked, then that is the difference between a tier 2 bowl and a NYD bowl. And if we are still shaky next year, 2 wins will be enough to get us to a bowl.

This is a completely valid point. Long term, for a second year, a bowl is a bowl is a bowl as long as things trend upwards. Getting into the big bowls is a stretch for anyone coming off of a year like this. People outside of Arkansas will scream "well, they only got there because of KB," and then the pressure to reproduce that immediately is there. That is if he comes in and has the significance impact people are stating. So, what happens if we take a step back the next year because things weren't fixed because of wanting those 2 more wins now, now, now?

There are a trillion maybes and hypotheticals in it all. Thank you for at least getting what I'm saying instead of immediately letting your hair catch fire. I'm for whatever keeps the canoe flowing the right direction for years to come. One up year isn't worth what we have went through as a fanbase or a program, and it has essentially been that for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 24, 2018, 07:20:52 pm
This is a completely valid point. Long term, for a second year, a bowl is a bowl is a bowl as long as things trend upwards. Getting into the big bowls is a stretch for anyone coming off of a year like this. People outside of Arkansas will scream "well, they only got there because of KB," and then the pressure to reproduce that immediately is there. That is if he comes in and has the significance impact people are stating. So, what happens if we take a step back the next year because things weren't fixed because of wanting those 2 more wins now, now, now?

There are a trillion maybes and hypotheticals in it all. Thank you for at least getting what I'm saying instead of immediately letting your hair catch fire. I'm for whatever keeps the canoe flowing the right direction for years to come. One up year isn't worth what we have went through as a fanbase or a program, and it has essentially been that for as long as I can remember.

That's where I'm at too. I don't think we are winning the SEC title with him, but bowl eligibility is completely reasonable.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 24, 2018, 07:22:14 pm
This is a completely valid point. Long term, for a second year, a bowl is a bowl is a bowl as long as things trend upwards. Getting into the big bowls is a stretch for anyone coming off of a year like this. People outside of Arkansas will scream "well, they only got there because of KB," and then the pressure to reproduce that immediately is there. That is if he comes in and has the significance impact people are stating. So, what happens if we take a step back the next year because things weren't fixed because of wanting those 2 more wins now, now, now?

There are a trillion maybes and hypotheticals in it all. Thank you for at least getting what I'm saying instead of immediately letting your hair catch fire. I'm for whatever keeps the canoe flowing the right direction for years to come. One up year isn't worth what we have went through as a fanbase or a program, and it has essentially been that for as long as I can remember.


uhhh yes. This board probably doesn't exist if we aren't prognosticating and discussing the maybe and hypothetical. That's all we can do in this thread. Debating between a couple wins isn't asanine as you said earlier. There are a lot of variables that decide a game to be fair, but games led by a 16-2 starter that has been in the offense for 3 seasons tend to turn games.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 24, 2018, 07:31:53 pm
Because a good QB can make our center not snap the ball almost out of the reach of a JUMPING 6'7 grown man, make our WRs taller, faster, tougher, our O-line seasoned veterans, and our RBs immune to injury. It's a TEAM GAME for gods sake. Just because one person does their job doesn't mean everyone else will. That thought is asinine.

Let me ask you this what would our record be with a guy like Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, or Drew Lock?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Bacons Rebellion on October 24, 2018, 07:51:41 pm
Saying what every sportscaster said the day he declared to transfer. It was cowardly. Also, there would be other options other than TE and short passes if we had WR's with any degree of break away speed or size... or toughness for that matter. Watching Jared Cornelius get manhandled off the ball quite legally again and again by Tulsa the other day should be a clue... you can't throw passes to guys who aren't open will not be open for the next millennium (which Cole Kelly found out the hard way).

Am I doubting the kid's ability? No. I am emphasizing the fact that the team is soft and it is more important to weed out every pillowy aspect of Bielema's culture than to win 2 extra games, and it is easier to do that with someone who has been there for all the hell and invested than with a Eddie Martel who is only in it to up his draft stock for a year.


I don't think I agree with this. You are asking the team that is soft to heal itself -- team that has wallowed in its inadequacies and complained about fans not liking it. I believe
 it likely easier with a newcomer from a highly successful (playoff) team who can say, as a peer with authority, "That is not how you do this and succeed."
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on October 24, 2018, 07:53:37 pm
Who told you this information?  Did you hear it from KB or his family?   You try to act like you are speaking FACT.
Look, I get how you are 'all in' for Ty Storey but Kelly Bryant can beat out ANY quarterback we have in the bullpen. I don't see how KB would be afraid of competition from Storey no matter if he runs the table. Bryant is one of the top 5 to 10 QB's in the country and he's afraid of not winning the Arkansas job. Pfffft !
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 24, 2018, 08:22:05 pm
8:22 pm update on 10/24: The KB situation is fluid.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GA reddiehog on October 24, 2018, 08:22:29 pm
You are simply a troll poster.  I just looked at ALL your posts and everything you post is negative.  You are no hog fan and I'm not sure why you even bother to post since you seem to hate all things razorback.  Once I saw your post about the damn BASEBALL hogs last year were not championship caliber and had no chance to win that pretty much tells the tale.  This site would be a lot better if you would see yourself out the door.
You are very wrong, I'm a very strong Hog fan.  My wife would tell you I'm over board.  I just stated what I've heard here from Clemson fans.  They would love to see him be a Hog because they still think very highly of CCM.  They don't want him to go to NC because they are on Clemson's schedule next year.  For that reason I don't think he goes to NC.  Too many people on here can not stand for people to express their opinion if it differs from them.  You will never read where I have called someone a troll or even worse as some do. I will continue to read a lot and post some.  In my 74 years I've been called a lot worse and will not be bullied by some pill pusher!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 24, 2018, 09:14:58 pm
In my 74 years I've been called a lot worse and will not be bullied by some pill pusher!!!

Peepaw may need some more pills.  Hook this man up.  Throw in a couple blue ones for old boy.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GA reddiehog on October 24, 2018, 09:25:27 pm
Peepaw may need some more pills.  Hook this man up.  Throw in a couple blue ones for old boy.
Another want to be comedian?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: thebignasty on October 24, 2018, 09:30:40 pm
Please let someone delete his posts for arguing with moderation.  I don't ask for much.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 24, 2018, 10:08:21 pm
Found my new signature lol
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: theFlyingHog on October 24, 2018, 10:48:05 pm
You all are fretting over nothing, KB is not coming to the Hogs.  If he was coming, he would have already committed knowing it would improve recruiting and his chances of success.  Clemson fans say it will not be Hogs.  Most are saying Oregon.
Ban bet?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 25, 2018, 12:18:46 am
Ty was raked higher than McElroy! And, we signed QB higher than him that year as well, MM. Ty's year we also later had Ricky Town. Point is, Ty was highly regarded at the time. Not just a "good ole Arkansas boy"

https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/Football/2006/PRO

https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/Football/2015/PRO

I never said he wasnít. McElory however didnít turn the ball over. The number 1 thing Saban needs. Ty is still working on that
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 1highhog on October 25, 2018, 01:14:30 am
Insanity. Gotta be the densest fan base in the country. Luckily, I'm absolutely certain Coach Morris is taking suggestions for how to manage his roster from every Lester, Fran, and Uncle Jasper that shows up at the Catfish Hole.

You forgot that where you were, this is Arkansas.  He's taking suggestions from Uncle Festus, Marcel, Eugene, Joe Bob, and Ole Corn Bread that runs the Piggly Wiggly.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: southeasthog on October 25, 2018, 05:53:07 am
Saying what every sportscaster said the day he declared to transfer. It was cowardly.

You mean those same sportscasters that applauded Steve Spurrier for quitting on his team mid-season because they were losing?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: oldhawg on October 25, 2018, 06:21:04 am
You mean those same sportscasters that applauded Steve Spurrier for quitting on his team mid-season because they were losing?

And Bob Knight quitting at Texas Tech in mid-season so that his son could succeed him.  Much of the media has their own agenda which is solely to influence perception.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sowmonella on October 25, 2018, 08:51:26 am
You mean those same sportscasters that applauded Steve Spurrier for quitting on his team mid-season because they were losing?

And that's the troooooof!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hog of steele on October 25, 2018, 09:32:44 am
I think after getting bumped from starter and bolting... he will go to where there is 0% chance of him losing his spot. Someone will absolutely guarantee the kid he will be the starter the full year or he won't go there. If he wanted to work for it, he would have stayed put. Just like ya'll are saying, why go somewhere when there is a better option on the table for you.

If he wanted to work for it he would stay put? So you think drew bledsoe needed to stay with the patriots after Tom Brady took his job?

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Next1_04 on October 25, 2018, 09:35:33 am
Per Davenport on the Morning Rush : " Kelley Bryant is looking to make a decision in November".
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PharmacistHog on October 25, 2018, 09:44:05 am
You are very wrong, I'm a very strong Hog fan.  My wife would tell you I'm over board.  I just stated what I've heard here from Clemson fans.  They would love to see him be a Hog because they still think very highly of CCM.  They don't want him to go to NC because they are on Clemson's schedule next year.  For that reason I don't think he goes to NC.  Too many people on here can not stand for people to express their opinion if it differs from them.  You will never read where I have called someone a troll or even worse as some do. I will continue to read a lot and post some.  In my 74 years I've been called a lot worse and will not be bullied by some pill pusher!!!

Everything you post is negative. Not just the Kelly Bryant stuff. Go look at your own post history. Its all negative. All of it. Iím not trying to ďbullyĒ you whatever that means. Iím just telling you your attitude sucks judging from your posts.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on October 25, 2018, 09:50:49 am
Everything you post is negative. Not just the Kelly Bryant stuff. Go look at your own post history. Its all negative. All of it. Iím not trying to ďbullyĒ you whatever that means. Iím just telling you your attitude sucks judging from your posts.
What do you prescribe ???
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 25, 2018, 09:52:42 am
What do you prescribe ???

He'll slip him a mickey and next thing you know, GA will wake up in the tavern with the ghost of Rev standing over him holding a sheep
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on October 25, 2018, 09:56:23 am
He'll slip him a mickey and next thing you know, GA will wake up in the tavern with the ghost of Rev standing over him holding a sheep
Too late to get a second opinion from Dr. Mengele ???
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PharmacistHog on October 25, 2018, 09:58:20 am
What do you prescribe ???

A night on the town with Rick Scaeffer.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on October 25, 2018, 09:59:51 am
A night on the town with Rick Scaeffer.
Sadist!   :o
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2018, 10:22:43 am
A night on the town with Rick Scaeffer.

I thought there was a law against cruel and unusual punishment?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: southeasthog on October 25, 2018, 10:24:46 am
You are very wrong, I'm a very strong Hog fan.  My wife would tell you I'm over board.  I just stated what I've heard here from Clemson fans.  They would love to see him be a Hog because they still think very highly of CCM.  They don't want him to go to NC because they are on Clemson's schedule next year.  For that reason I don't think he goes to NC.  Too many people on here can not stand for people to express their opinion if it differs from them.  You will never read where I have called someone a troll or even worse as some do. I will continue to read a lot and post some.  In my 74 years I've been called a lot worse and will not be bullied by some pill pusher!!!

Well when your "opinion" is that the baseball team might not even make the post season and wouldn't go far if they did, it makes you look dumb. People dont like "dumb" opinions.

Hogs just don't have the pitching needed to be a great team.  They will not go far if they get to post season.  They also leave too many on base.  They just seem to have trouble getting the hits when they need them.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ironhawg on October 25, 2018, 10:26:59 am
A night on the town with Rick Scaeffer.

I don't know about this.  The collision between his negativity and Sunshine Rick's eternal optimism might trigger the apocalypse or something.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on October 25, 2018, 10:35:00 am
well, everyone seems to have their sources. But I know someone whos older brother hung out with Bryant this past weekend on his visit. Hes all but a lock, as long as his credits transfer and his degree program lines up.

I've been using you as my source...ha.

I hope this is true, and if it is, it's b/c KB knows he can come in and run the same offense as D. Watson ran at Clemson from day 1. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 25, 2018, 11:17:38 am
I've been using you as my source...ha.

I hope this is true, and if it is, it's b/c KB knows he can come in and run the same offense as D. Watson ran at Clemson from day 1.

So what you're saying is that you know a guy who knows a guy whose brother hung out with KB for a weekend?


Solid.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wildturkey8 on October 25, 2018, 11:20:35 am
So what you're saying is that you know a guy who knows a guy whose brother hung out with KB for a weekend?


Solid.
Doesn't get any better than that.  That being said, all signs from the outside looking in point to Bryant coming to Arkansas.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pinto on October 25, 2018, 11:23:47 am
So what you're saying is that you know a guy who knows a guy whose brother hung out with KB for a weekend?


Solid.

Lol
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sowmonella on October 25, 2018, 11:47:02 am
Presser at 4???
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on October 25, 2018, 11:58:17 am
I don't know about this.  The collision between his negativity and Sunshine Rick's eternal optimism might trigger the apocalypse or something.
The unstoppable force vs the immovable object. Armageddon, I tell you everyone shag hiney to Baum Stadium, it's Hog fans last best chance to stay alive.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GA reddiehog on October 25, 2018, 12:27:08 pm
Well when your "opinion" is that the baseball team might not even make the post season and wouldn't go far if they did, it makes you look dumb. People dont like "dumb" opinions.
If you notice I made that projection before the season really got started good.  I'm glad to say I was wrong, but it was just an opinion.  Look at my posts about the football team, with their record I've not said anything negative about them that I can recall.  I've have been very critical of the basketball team on another site but that is my opinion.  I don't talk crap to people that have different opinions  than mine.  I don't mind being critized as long as it is civil. Everyone can have their opinions.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on October 25, 2018, 01:34:38 pm
Welp, it's official. Just spoke to my mailman, who is from Alabama and always says "Roll Tide" because my mailbox, window, doormat, and usually my T-shirt has a Razorback on it.

Anyway, he says "well looks like you guys have your new quarterback coming." His wife is from South Carolina and both of her parents went to Clemson and live in Spartanburg.... says they think he is coming to Arkansas. So you heard it here 321st, somebody that knows somebody that went to Clemson says Bryant to Arkansas.

 You're welcome.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2018, 01:58:11 pm
Welp, it's official. Just spoke to my mailman, who is from Alabama and always says "Roll Tide" because my mailbox, window, doormat, and usually my T-shirt has a Razorback on it.

Anyway, he says "well looks like you guys have your new quarterback coming." His wife is from South Carolina and both of her parents went to Clemson and live in Spartanburg.... says they think he is coming to Arkansas. So you heard it here 321st, somebody that knows somebody that went to Clemson says Bryant to Arkansas.

 You're welcome.

Outside of your Congressman, who do you trust more than your mailman? I believe him, we goin to the ship next year!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dethnode on October 25, 2018, 02:15:54 pm
My dog stopped licking its butt last night and looked dead at me and said kelly bryant is going to lead the hogs next year to the CFP where he will be outshined by Trevor Lawrence and Clemson will beat the Hogs 39 to 28.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wildturkey8 on October 25, 2018, 02:20:01 pm
My dog stopped licking its butt last night and looked dead at me and said kelly bryant is going to lead the hogs next year to the CFP where he will be outshined by Trevor Lawrence and Clemson will beat the Hogs 39 to 28.
I hope your dog is right!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: dethnode on October 25, 2018, 02:21:49 pm
I hope your dog is right!

Scared the hell out of me... I thought we had a cat!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 25, 2018, 02:26:02 pm
If you notice I made that projection before the season really got started good.  I'm glad to say I was wrong, but it was just an opinion.  Look at my posts about the football team, with their record I've not said anything negative about them that I can recall.  I've have been very critical of the basketball team on another site but that is my opinion.  I don't talk crap to people that have different opinions  than mine.  I don't mind being critized as long as it is civil. Everyone can have their opinions.

Exhibit A:

Vandy QB will carve up the Hog defense and they will slow the offense to a crawl. If the Hogs can't run the ball, they lose.

Exhibit B:

They haven't had a bowl shot since the second game.  I predicted 1-11 and I may be right.  I don't see another win.  I hope we don't start losing recruits, but I think we will lose a few.

You see where this is going right?....

What have you been drinking?  No way he comes to the Hogs!!!  He wants to go to a winning program.

People over here say "no way he comes to Hogs".  He wants to go to a winner.

This was a good one as well...

All of my posts (2) were deleted last night.  They were not positive but they were spot on.

Anyways, continue on with your non-negative vibes bro...


Good day.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 25, 2018, 02:27:51 pm
Exhibit A:

Exhibit B:

You see where this is going right?....

This was a good one as well...

Anyways, continue on with your non-negative vibes bro...


Good day.

"I've not said anything negative about them that I can recall."

"They were not positive but they were spot on."

LOL
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on October 25, 2018, 02:45:30 pm
"I've not said anything negative about them that I can recall."

"They were not positive but they were spot on."

LOL

If you're going to flip-flop, you either need an excellent memory or go back and check your posts every time you begin to type another. :)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Porkerpower on October 25, 2018, 03:53:30 pm
A night on the town with Rick Scaeffer.

I imagine Rick has a ton of stories to tell.  I for one would love to hear some of them.

Some of us grew up listening to Rick.  He's forever tied to the program and by all accounts a super person.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dr. Leonard Ford on October 25, 2018, 03:58:27 pm
My dog stopped licking its butt last night and looked dead at me and said kelly bryant is going to lead the hogs next year to the CFP where he will be outshined by Trevor Lawrence and Clemson will beat the Hogs 39 to 28.

Wish my dog was like your dog.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 25, 2018, 04:01:01 pm
I imagine Rick has a ton of stories to tell.  I for one would love to hear some of them.

Some of us grew up listening to Rick.  He's forever tied to the program and by all accounts a super person.
Now listen Mister :)

Stories like writing "Tic,Tac,Toe that's 3 in a row" on your winshield, at Austin Texas, !!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Athog on October 25, 2018, 04:04:30 pm
I never said he wasnít. McElory however didnít turn the ball over. The number 1 thing Saban needs. Ty is still working on that

And Ty does have the overall talent McElroy had around him!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 25, 2018, 04:04:37 pm
Now listen Mister :)

Stories like writing "Tic,Tac,Toe that's 3 in a row" on your winshield, at Austin Texas, !!!
Wanta tell em what day that was?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PharmacistHog on October 25, 2018, 04:12:27 pm
I imagine Rick has a ton of stories to tell.  I for one would love to hear some of them.

Some of us grew up listening to Rick.  He's forever tied to the program and by all accounts a super person.

I like rick.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HognitiveDissonance on October 25, 2018, 05:54:18 pm
My dog stopped licking its butt last night and looked dead at me and said kelly bryant is going to lead the hogs next year to the CFP where he will be outshined by Trevor Lawrence and Clemson will beat the Hogs 39 to 28.
A good opportunity to tell a story:
Two good ole boys were sitting on the back porch, spitting tobacco. Out in the yard a dog was laying there licking himself, as dogs do.
The first guy watches the dog for a while, then says 'D-a-n-g........I wish I could do that."
The second guy stares at him for a minute, then finally says 'Dude......that dog'll bite you."
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on October 25, 2018, 05:58:25 pm
A good opportunity to tell a story:
Two good ole boys were sitting on the back porch, spitting tobacco. Out in the yard a dog was laying there licking himself, as dogs do.
The first guy watches the dog for a while, then says 'D-a-n-g........I wish I could do that."
The second guy stares at him for a minute, then finally says 'Dude......that dog'll bite you."
I've heard that one at least 100 times...and when 101 came in the above post, I laughed for the 101st time.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 25, 2018, 07:00:56 pm
And Ty does have the overall talent McElroy had around him!

No. But neither did BA and he was excellent at not turning the ball over.

Ty currently isnít great at taking care of the ball. Which will get teams even as good as Bama beat
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Superhog1959 on October 25, 2018, 07:09:56 pm
I have no doubt that Bryant is a good player and would be a factor in the Hogs performance for next year. BUT. I am not sure he would be a good team player to bring in at this point. He quit his last team and lost his starting job after going what? 16-2. Not sure about that, might be a reason, certainally something to think about. The focus here is on the team, not just one player. IF it was my team, I wouldn't bring in a outside player and say "here you go lead us". It might taste sweet in our mouths, then turn bitter in the stomach. Long term, don't feel right to me.

Fire away kids.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2018, 07:18:32 pm
I have no doubt that Bryant is a good player and would be a factor in the Hogs performance for next year. BUT. I am not sure he would be a good team player to bring in at this point. He quit his last team and lost his starting job after going what? 16-2. Not sure about that, might be a reason, certainally something to think about. The focus here is on the team, not just one player. IF it was my team, I wouldn't bring in a outside player and say "here you go lead us". It might taste sweet in our mouths, then turn bitter in the stomach. Long term, don't feel right to me.

Fire away kids.


So, you wouldn't ever be in favor of a grad transfer? Bring in the best talent you can every year, be it high school graduates, JUCO graduates, or grad transfers. I think teams want to win, or I hope they do.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgon on October 25, 2018, 07:32:21 pm
A good opportunity to tell a story:
Two good ole boys were sitting on the back porch, spitting tobacco. Out in the yard a dog was laying there licking himself, as dogs do.
The first guy watches the dog for a while, then says 'D-a-n-g........I wish I could do that."
The second guy stares at him for a minute, then finally says 'Dude......that dog'll bite you."

When I said that once, my friend said, ďGo ahead, itís your dog.Ē
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 25, 2018, 07:34:23 pm
I like rick.

Itís like a challenge for you to get people to complain about mods isnít it?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: thebignasty on October 25, 2018, 07:38:15 pm
Itís like a challenge for you to get people to complain about mods isnít it?
take your like
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PharmacistHog on October 25, 2018, 07:39:25 pm
Itís like a challenge for you to get people to complain about mods isnít it?

Are you complaining about moderation?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 25, 2018, 07:42:02 pm
Are you complaining about moderation?

Yes, but only in moderation.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on October 25, 2018, 08:01:11 pm
Wish my dog was like your dog.
My dog was licking his butt last night, but I'm pretty sure he just ate a lawyer and was trying to get the taste out of his mouth.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #hammerdown on October 25, 2018, 08:47:50 pm
well, everyone seems to have their sources. But I know someone whos older brother hung out with Bryant this past weekend on his visit. Hes all but a lock, as long as his credits transfer and his degree program lines up.

Wouldnt that be the most Arkansas thing ever?  Highly desired QB wants to come to Arkansas to help turn this train around but we canít get him enrolled. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on October 25, 2018, 08:56:21 pm
Wouldnt that be the most Arkansas thing ever?  Highly desired QB wants to come to Arkansas to help turn this train around but we canít get him enrolled. 
Happened before with JC players but not necessarily quarterbacks
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Drop the Mike on October 25, 2018, 09:10:39 pm
A night on the town with Rick Scaeffer.

Iíve got a perfect 3 quart Tupperware bowl if you want to get a matching haircut first
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: challenge on October 26, 2018, 09:53:12 am
Kelly Bryant and Jonathan Nance visiting Mizzou for the Kentucky game this weekend hmmm
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on October 26, 2018, 09:57:37 am
Kelly Bryant and Jonathan Nance visiting Mizzou for the Kentucky game this weekend hmmm

Theyíre going to win this weekend, too.

Surely the connection Bryant and Morris and his familiarity with Morrisí offense trumps all, right?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 26, 2018, 09:59:45 am
Theyíre going to win this weekend, too.

So....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 26, 2018, 10:45:27 am
Theyíre going to win this weekend, too.

Surely the connection Bryant and Morris and his familiarity with Morrisí offense trumps all, right?

Are you picking Mizzou to beat KY?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 26, 2018, 10:56:56 am
Are you picking Mizzou to beat KY?
They are capable of it. I think Kentucky is a better team.

Snell may have a great day. The Mizzou rushing defense isn't terrible (32nd), but good rushing teams have been able to run the ball on them.

If Mizzou can slow Kentucky's run game down, they will have a chance to win a close one because Kentucky's passing game is wretched.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on October 26, 2018, 10:57:45 am
Are you picking Mizzou to beat KY?

By 10 or more.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 26, 2018, 11:00:08 am
By 10 or more.

I was just curious who you meant by ďtheyíreĒ.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogwild on October 26, 2018, 01:42:15 pm
KC Star edition this morning

Quote
Kelly Bryant to visit this weekend
Clemson transfer quarterback Kelly Bryant will take an official visit to Missouri this weekend.  Give credit to Mizzou coach Barry Odom. Bryant could have visited anywhere in the country and yet here he is coming to Columbia.

Missouri is clearly a situation he likes more than others and for good reason. Out of the schools in the mix for him like Arkansas and North Carolina, Missouri is in the most stable shape and he would start for the Tigers the second he steps on campus.

Should Albert Okwuegbunam return, Bryant would be leading an offense with Jalen Knox, all three tailbacks and an offensive line that returns three starters. The defense would return a lot as well. I talked to Bryantís high school coach, Jeff Tate, who told me his former star player is all about fit and isnít going to choose a school for its name or location to home. Arkansas coach Chad Morris recruited Bryant to Clemson and is considered a favorite, but Bryant recently said that Baylor and Louisville are also on his radar.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on October 26, 2018, 01:53:34 pm
KC Star edition this morning


lol garbage article
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 26, 2018, 02:04:03 pm
KC Star edition this morning

It remains to be seen whether Mizzou's new offense will be seen as a pro or a con by KB since it is quite different from what is used to running.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Mike Irwin on October 26, 2018, 02:07:19 pm
Wouldnt that be the most Arkansas thing ever?  Highly desired QB wants to come to Arkansas to help turn this train around but we canít get him enrolled.
John White is no longer in charge.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HeathWimp on October 26, 2018, 02:14:01 pm
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Kelly Bryant's commitment is probably the key to Chad Morris lasting more than 3 years here.  If Bryant comes, we have an established, possibly superstar-level QB to take the reigns for a season.  This will give KJ the chance to redshirt and really learn the system.  We have our usual tough schedule, but if Bryant is there, we will be in the running to win 6 games.  He'll have some weapons at his disposal, but we are still losing a lot of players.  The lack of depth doesn't help either.  However, win 6 games and the fans have the all-important commodity needed to sustain interest during a total rebuild:  hope.

If Bryant doesn't come here, KJ will probably be forced into service as true Freshman, unless Morris decides to take it on the chin again with Storey at QB, so that KJ can redshirt.  Regardless of whether it is KJ or Storey, we will be hard-pressed to improve upon this year's 2-10/3-9 record.  This will further depress fan interest, which is already pretty low.  Recruiting will suffer as well, since the shine will be off Morris by that point, and he won't be able to point to on-field progress as a sign of improvement. 

If we have a losing season in 2019, that will be 5 losing seasons out of the last 8.  That would be tough for any coach to overcome.  If we get Bryant, I think we go 7-6 in 2019.  KJ will be ready to take over in 2020, and we may be able to get back to 8 wins most years

What does the board think?  Will Bryant keep us afloat?  Or will his rejection sink us all the way to the bottom?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogfan14 on October 26, 2018, 02:18:31 pm
Give Storey the receivers we have coming in next year and he would look much better IMO. He's definitely improved from the beginning of the season.

Would love to have Bryant too though. His athleticism would be a big difference in this system.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 26, 2018, 02:23:57 pm
I donít believe that any one player is the make or break for a new coach. That being said I do think that with the type of offense he wants to play then the QB is critical to success maybe a little moreso than in some other types of offense.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: a0ashle on October 26, 2018, 02:24:01 pm
I think it could make, but it won't break him if we don't get KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 26, 2018, 02:25:11 pm
I think it could make, but it won't break him if we don't get KB.

Agree since he would only get to play one year iirc.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on October 26, 2018, 02:28:02 pm
No one year player is going to break CM here. All his being here would really mean is we go into yr 3 with a qb with little experience on the field ( unless he were to bring in yet another grad transfer or get a regular transfer this year that sits out next year ).
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HeathWimp on October 26, 2018, 02:30:52 pm
I don’t believe that any one player is the make or break for a new coach. That being said I do think that with the type of offense he wants to play then the QB is critical to success maybe a little moreso than in some other types of offense.

I would normally agree, but Morris's system is so incredibly QB-Centric, I think it is an exception to the rule.  A QB who has the tools for that type of offense is really important.  I think Ty has done an admirable job, but at the end of the day he is not the threat to run that Bryant is.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: SoonerSooie on October 26, 2018, 02:32:07 pm
Seems a pretty rash assessment-- no offense intended. To say that a single player, coming in for one year, will determine the success or failure of a coach in years three-five is a reach. Could Bryant give a tremendous boost to the program? I am satisfied that he could. But, to suggest that Jefferson cannot do the same in year two-four is to totally prejudge his capabilities and as well as the quality of the in-coming recruiting classes that at this time, have the potential to be some of the best in Hog history, thus, enhancing the potential for greater success than even Bryant can bring.

Just my two cents worth
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The NewEra on October 26, 2018, 02:33:39 pm
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Kelly Bryant's commitment is probably the key to Chad Morris lasting more than 3 years here.  If Bryant comes, we have an established, possibly superstar-level QB to take the reigns for a season.  This will give KJ the chance to redshirt and really learn the system.  We have our usual tough schedule, but if Bryant is there, we will be in the running to win 6 games.  He'll have some weapons at his disposal, but we are still losing a lot of players.  The lack of depth doesn't help either.  However, win 6 games and the fans have the all-important commodity needed to sustain interest during a total rebuild:  hope.

If Bryant doesn't come here, KJ will probably be forced into service as true Freshman, unless Morris decides to take it on the chin again with Storey at QB, so that KJ can redshirt.  Regardless of whether it is KJ or Storey, we will be hard-pressed to improve upon this year's 2-10/3-9 record.  This will further depress fan interest, which is already pretty low.  Recruiting will suffer as well, since the shine will be off Morris by that point, and he won't be able to point to on-field progress as a sign of improvement. 

If we have a losing season in 2019, that will be 5 losing seasons out of the last 8.  That would be tough for any coach to overcome.  If we get Bryant, I think we go 7-6 in 2019.  KJ will be ready to take over in 2020, and we may be able to get back to 8 wins most years

What does the board think?  Will Bryant keep us afloat?  Or will his rejection sink us all the way to the bottom?

I couldn't disagree more!  Next man up...Ö...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 26, 2018, 02:40:29 pm
I would normally agree, but Morris's system is so incredibly QB-Centric, I think it is an exception to the rule.  A QB who has the tools for that type of offense is really important.  I think Ty has done an admirable job, but at the end of the day he is not the threat to run that Bryant is.

If Bryant were to come we have no way of knowing how any of the current freshmen or recruits might develop. Heck they could do great by the time Bryant was to be gone. Iím more concerned about developing depth and building the OL.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Erockster20 on October 26, 2018, 02:41:37 pm
Why is the high school senior always thought to be the savior...every year!!  So this time last year, all we were told was Noland would be the greatest QB ever born his freshman year. Oh and I was told that when Storey was slinging it around in Charleston. And it goes on year after year. So now KJ will take us to the playoff next year. Iím pretty sure there are actually people on here that believe if he could have skipped his senior year he would have been better in the SEC than the QBs we already have on campus.

Could he be good?  Yes. But how about we actually let him sign his LOI before we think he will win the heisman.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 26, 2018, 02:43:28 pm
Why is the high school senior always thought to be the savior...every year!!  So this time last year, all we were told was Noland would be the greatest QB ever born his freshman year. Oh and I was told that when Storey was slinging it around in Charleston. And it goes on year after year. So now KJ will take us to the playoff next year. Iím pretty sure there are actually people on here that believe if he could have skipped his senior year he would have been better in the SEC than the QBs we already have on campus.

Could he be good?  Yes. But how about we actually let him sign his LOI before we think he will win the heisman.

And how about we wait and see if Bryant comes here and if he does what happens after that as well.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Next1_04 on October 26, 2018, 02:46:51 pm
If CM & Staff didn't have the class coming in, other than KB, I might see your point. Fact is we do have the class and we wait and see on KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 26, 2018, 02:58:13 pm
A head coach in his first year on campus with possibly one of the best recruiting classes in school history lined up... and a one year rental QB's choice to pitstop is the tell all for the future of the program and coach? God I hope not.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Paul on October 26, 2018, 03:01:31 pm
I couldn't disagree more!  Next man up...Ö...
usually I'd agree but it hasn't worked for our QB or OL this year
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AugustaHog on October 26, 2018, 03:02:22 pm
My dog stopped licking its butt last night and looked dead at me and said kelly bryant is going to lead the hogs next year to the CFP where he will be outshined by Trevor Lawrence and Clemson will beat the Hogs 39 to 28.
In before GoHogs comes on here and tells you there's no way in hell the Hogs could score 28 points against a Brent Venables defense.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cambridge Hog on October 26, 2018, 03:05:39 pm
Disagree. Ty with a year of starts under his belt will be a big improvement from this year. Letís not forget what he and our offense did vs Bama. We need more depth on D and threats at the WR postion more than we need a one-year QB, IMO
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Spektre on October 26, 2018, 03:08:38 pm
Disagree. Ty with a year of starts under his belt will be a big improvement from this year. Letís not forget what he and our offense did vs Bama. We need more depth on D and threats at the WR postion more than we need a one-year QB, IMO

Someone finally gets it. Throw in a center that can keep from hiking the ball a country mile and we're sprinting the right direction.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: BaconTheSaddleAgain on October 26, 2018, 03:18:27 pm
I couldn't disagree more.

If anything, KJ Jefferson is more important than Bryant because he is expected to have a big impact on years 3 and 4 and 5 of Chad Morris's tenure here. KB's job is to make us more likely to get bowl eligible in year two, tutor a RSing KJ Jefferson, increase the eyeballs on the program with the splash transfer, give the program a big morale boost for year two, and help show the recruits what the program is moving toward.

Bryant is a one year fill-in player on a team that is not going to compete for the division. He can do a lot of great things for the program, but it's still going to be a big work in progress. Jefferson is guy currently connected to the program that can make or break it. But it doesn't necessarily have to be him. By years 4 or 5, maybe it's Chandler Morris or Jacoby Criswell that is behind center. Who knows? But KB would just be the icing on a really nice recruiting cake. Morris's staff has done an A+ job of recruiting. We are finally filling out a class with players the caliber necessary to compete at the highest levels of this conference. This class will win some football games long after KB has filed for the NFL draft.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogfansince79 on October 26, 2018, 03:26:53 pm
Yes, but only in moderation.

lol... Gen. Mitchell would be proud of you...

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OkieBack on October 26, 2018, 04:05:43 pm
Disagree. Ty with a year of starts under his belt will be a big improvement from this year. Letís not forget what he and our offense did vs Bama. We need more depth on D and threats at the WR postion more than we need a one-year QB, IMO

I'g go with this.  To add, I think KB wants to be with a program that will win 10 games next year.  That said it probably puts him somewhere other than Arkansas.  If KB played 1 year at Arkansas great, but it won't solve any QB issues in years 3 or 4.  I'd rather see Ty start and share time with the younger QB's.

Unless Ty just has a mega meltdown these last few games this season I think he's on track to finish up his Senior year as starting QB next year even though Coach may be grooming one of our young QB's to take over the reins in 2020.  Plus with Ty knowing the system that will go a long way in getting the new receivers on track next year.  Once Morris has 2 or 3 years with the same QB and receiving corp then I think we will see this offense really come to life.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogeyeblind on October 26, 2018, 04:16:15 pm
I cant think of much more less exciting things than to go into next year with either Storey or Kelly at the helm.  Time to thank both for their services and wish them luck elsewhere.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #hammerdown on October 26, 2018, 05:03:42 pm
Probably not a coincidence that Odom is bringing Nance in on the same weekend as Bryant.

Iím sure there will be no ex girlfriend advice on this.

https://twitter.com/nikkichavanelle/status/1055891816241942530?s=21
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sickboy on October 26, 2018, 05:30:56 pm
Probably not a coincidence that Odom is bringing Nance in on the same weekend as Bryant.

Iím sure there will be no ex girlfriend advice on this.

https://twitter.com/nikkichavanelle/status/1055891816241942530?s=21

Sorry -- what's the coincidence? To have Nance trash talk us or something?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mykidsdad on October 26, 2018, 05:39:16 pm
Disagree. Ty with a year of starts under his belt will be a big improvement from this year. Letís not forget what he and our offense did vs Bama. We need more depth on D and threats at the WR postion more than we need a one-year QB, IMO
.

Disagree. Ty is tough, great competitor, and leader. However he has a terrible arm. Teams will soon figure that out and take away the short passing game away from us. When that happens we lose our running game as well.

Just play tight on our receivers and make Ty beat them over the top. That will stop our offense cold, this year and next. Watch the last few games and you will see this play out IMO.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 1highhog on October 26, 2018, 05:44:49 pm
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Kelly Bryant's commitment is probably the key to Chad Morris lasting more than 3 years here.  If Bryant comes, we have an established, possibly superstar-level QB to take the reigns for a season.  This will give KJ the chance to redshirt and really learn the system.  We have our usual tough schedule, but if Bryant is there, we will be in the running to win 6 games.  He'll have some weapons at his disposal, but we are still losing a lot of players.  The lack of depth doesn't help either.  However, win 6 games and the fans have the all-important commodity needed to sustain interest during a total rebuild:  hope.

If Bryant doesn't come here, KJ will probably be forced into service as true Freshman, unless Morris decides to take it on the chin again with Storey at QB, so that KJ can redshirt.  Regardless of whether it is KJ or Storey, we will be hard-pressed to improve upon this year's 2-10/3-9 record.  This will further depress fan interest, which is already pretty low.  Recruiting will suffer as well, since the shine will be off Morris by that point, and he won't be able to point to on-field progress as a sign of improvement. 

If we have a losing season in 2019, that will be 5 losing seasons out of the last 8.  That would be tough for any coach to overcome.  If we get Bryant, I think we go 7-6 in 2019.  KJ will be ready to take over in 2020, and we may be able to get back to 8 wins most years

What does the board think?  Will Bryant keep us afloat?  Or will his rejection sink us all the way to the bottom?

Losing KB for next season won't hurt Morris at all, are you smoking crack?  Morris will survive at least 4 year if not 5 here, regardless of the outcome of his seasons.  If KB doesn't come, we will have Storey and Noland competing for the starting QB next season, and both no doubt will do us well under the circumstances, the being of how depleted the Oline will be.  The season of 2020, if Noland doesn't turn totally to baseball which I wish he would personally, then he and Jefferson will probably battle it out for the starting QB position for 2020 with a loaded WR core, and improved Oline, and and overall offense that should be one of the best in the SEC by then and a defense that at least should be middle of the pack in the SEC by 2020.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on October 26, 2018, 06:39:40 pm
Probably not a coincidence that Odom is bringing Nance in on the same weekend as Bryant.

Iím sure there will be no ex girlfriend advice on this.

https://twitter.com/nikkichavanelle/status/1055891816241942530?s=21
I'm not going to fret one bit about Jonathan Nance going to Mizzou. I don't recall him standing out in big moments for the Hogs. Also, if Kelly Bryant wants to go to that s-hole of a campus, have at it. We've done all we can do. Enough is enough.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogsonHicks on October 26, 2018, 06:56:23 pm
KB visiting Mizzou the week after visiting us is a good thing.  Heíll see the direct contrast between facilities and tradition. 

Also, at least indirectly, Nance attending with him is a ďthis dude wasnít good enough to get catches at Arkansas, but Mizzou now wants himĒ moment.  Not particularly helpful for them.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 26, 2018, 07:01:17 pm
Sorry -- what's the coincidence? To have Nance trash talk us or something?

I imagine that is what Mizzou is hoping for.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigcrazy on October 26, 2018, 07:36:24 pm
I think a former Juco recruited by the previous head coach will have no difference with KBís decision. Nance has had about the same amount of time around CCM and Craddock as KB has.  If KB doesnít come to Arkansas it will have no difference in KJ redshirting. Storey will be the starter and Nolan will back him up, if KB does come Storey will be the backup and Nolan goes baseball full time.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OLEJACKETFAN on October 26, 2018, 07:38:49 pm
Nance will not have any influence on KB. As I stated earlier there is about a 75% chance KB will be a HOG.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cave City Joe on October 26, 2018, 07:43:32 pm
2 questions.
If KB is so good why doesn't he enter the NFL draft, he's graduating this year.
2nd..why does everyone always talk offense.  The problem with the Hogs is DEFENSE.  They make every QB look like a heisman winner.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 26, 2018, 07:53:59 pm
Nance will not have any influence on KB. As I stated earlier there is about a 75% chance KB will be a HOG.

 I think most on here think he's comng, or definitely favoring us, but until he declares, I wouldn't know a %. I've read on other sites he's 100% coming and has told some he was, but this fan base has read that before.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on October 26, 2018, 07:56:23 pm
2 questions.
If KB is so good why doesn't he enter the NFL draft, he's graduating this year.
2nd..why does everyone always talk offense.  The problem with the Hogs is DEFENSE.  They make every QB look like a heisman winner.

We're recruiting a good defensive team, but if you don't think someone very familiar with the RPO offense and a willing runner won't help, then I'd like to know what you want in a QB?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sickboy on October 26, 2018, 07:58:13 pm
2 questions.
If KB is so good why doesn't he enter the NFL draft, he's graduating this year.
2nd..why does everyone always talk offense.  The problem with the Hogs is DEFENSE.  They make every QB look like a heisman winner.

I've mentioned elsewhere, but Bryant isn't being graded by NFL scouts as a QB. He's being graded as a WR. I'm sure with Bryant it's that he either wants one more season of his life to get to play QB at this high a level or he believes he can show NFL scouts that he deserves to be seen as a QB.

Either way, Bryant isn't ready for the NFL this year and if your bar for who should be our QB is that they be good enough to be a starting QB in the NFL, then I got news for ya! There's only 32 of those guys, give or take, on the entire planet. And maybe one or two in all of college football.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 26, 2018, 08:03:44 pm
2 questions.
If KB is so good why doesn't he enter the NFL draft, he's graduating this year.
2nd..why does everyone always talk offense.  The problem with the Hogs is DEFENSE.  They make every QB look like a heisman winner.

1.He isnít an NFL type player. That has nothing to do with ability to impact a program.

2. We have had major problems on offense. Offense is the reason we lost to A&M and Colorado State and North Texas. With a Kelly Bryant type we donít lose to Ole Piss or the previous games mentioned.

Do we have work need on defense? For sure. But this offense needs a Kelly Bryant
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 26, 2018, 09:07:23 pm
2 questions.
If KB is so good why doesn't he enter the NFL draft, he's graduating this year.
2nd..why does everyone always talk offense.  The problem with the Hogs is DEFENSE.  They make every QB look like a heisman winner.

Not sure where to start with this post...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: STLhawg on October 26, 2018, 10:08:09 pm
I wonder if the field surface might have any impact on KB's decision at all?  Mizzou has artificial field turf, and I believe we are going to grass next year.  Clemson's stadium has grass.  I realize it won't be a big factor (if one at all) but it could still be something.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: pigzwillrise on October 26, 2018, 10:09:28 pm
I wonder if the field surface might have any impact KB's decision at all?  Mizzou has artificial field turf, and I believe we are going to grass next year.  Clemson's stadium has grass.
I wonder if he likes coke or pepsi
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hatleyville454 on October 26, 2018, 10:14:30 pm
1.He isnít an NFL type player. That has nothing to do with ability to impact a program.

2. We have had major problems on offense. Offense is the reason we lost to A&M and Colorado State and North Texas. With a Kelly Bryant type we donít lose to Ole Piss or the previous games mentioned.

Do we have work need on defense? For sure. But this offense needs a Kelly Bryant

The defense needs a Kelly Bryant too...all those 3 and outs and short fields kill them
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LRHawg on October 26, 2018, 11:55:22 pm
I wonder if he likes coke or pepsi


Or Red Bull!??
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RedSkiesAtNightHog on October 27, 2018, 02:09:30 pm
Bryant would have won this game, Colorado State, North Texas, and Ole Miss.

The quarterback is that important. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: JackTNHogfan on October 27, 2018, 02:42:58 pm
5-6 games.  Without him 4 at best.  We better hope we get him...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 27, 2018, 02:44:59 pm
Iíd love to send him a check and a Razorback Snuggie as a Christmas present this year...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: exit followed by a boar on October 27, 2018, 02:46:12 pm
I am certain he'll help the offense, but who will help the defense?  And I don't think all those who say we aren't recruiting well enough can claim CSU, UNT, Vandy, and even Mizzou have been out-recruiting us.

Ouch!

EFBAB
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dr. Starcs on October 27, 2018, 02:46:32 pm
send lots of cash too
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Fayietnam Hog on October 27, 2018, 02:47:55 pm
You better get some numbers for defensive recruits first. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on October 27, 2018, 02:56:45 pm
You better get some numbers for defensive recruits first.

Weíve already got like 40 solid commits on D. Iíll gamble with KB
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GroŖer Kriegschwein on October 27, 2018, 02:58:23 pm
Just pull a Pitino and send strippers. And shoes....

Seemed to work for him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ShadowTheHedgehog on October 27, 2018, 02:59:43 pm
Just pull a Pitino and send strippers. And shoes....

Seemed to work for him.

Or combine and send Strippers with Snuggies.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Fayietnam Hog on October 27, 2018, 03:01:05 pm
If our ďsolid commitsĒ pan out then you are correct sir. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Danny J on October 27, 2018, 03:03:19 pm
Or combine and send Strippers with Snuggies.
Since we're just giving away strippers and snuggles can someone send some my way? The old lady would be cool with it I promise
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2018, 03:09:06 pm
I don't think KB wants to spend his remaining eligibility on this dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 03:10:24 pm
I don't think KB wants to spend his remaining eligibility on this dumpster fire.

I think KB has said repeatedly he doesn't care how teams do this year. Things change a lot in a year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on October 27, 2018, 03:12:59 pm
I don't think KB wants to spend his remaining eligibility on this dumpster fire.

Yeah, that worries me as well.. let's hope he's got an ego and thinks he can turn it around and win the Heisman.. everybody knows how bad we are, they'll give him the credit if we turn it around..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: East TN HAWG on October 27, 2018, 03:13:58 pm
I think KB has said repeatedly he doesn't care how teams do this year. Things change a lot in a year.
He has said this publicly.  Question is do you think he believes it, or simply trying to be politically correct?  I hope he means it. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 27, 2018, 03:15:28 pm
He has said this publicly.  Question is do you think he believes it, or simply trying to be politically correct?  I hope he means it.

KB at the Mizzou game. Crowd isnít loud at all.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 27, 2018, 03:16:46 pm
Not sure if this has been stated in the previous 14 pages, not gonna go back and read them all...

KB is gonna do what's best for KB.  He saw the writing on the wall at Clemson and bailed.  If he thinks he can turn a 2-win Hogs team around to 6-7 wins he comes here. 

Makes him look like a superstar.  And that's what he is looking to do.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: East TN HAWG on October 27, 2018, 03:17:52 pm
KB at the Mizzou game. Crowd isnít loud at all.
There is a picture out there of him talking to MO coaches. Nance is there with him. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 27, 2018, 03:18:36 pm
KB at the Mizzou game. Crowd isnít loud at all.

Mizzou isn't a classic SEC school; they are in the midwest.

Not that UA is a classic SEC school, but I guess even the SEC needs its Vandy's...even Vandy needs its Vandy!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 27, 2018, 03:19:10 pm
There is a picture out there of him talking to MO coaches. Nance is there with him. 

Nance may be the biggest recruiting tool Mizzou has.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on October 27, 2018, 03:19:42 pm
KB at the Mizzou game. Crowd isnít loud at all.

Is he wearing a Mizzou hat?  Better yet, is he calling the Hogs?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Springfield_MO_Razorback on October 27, 2018, 03:26:59 pm
Is he wearing a Mizzou hat?  Better yet, is he calling the Hogs?

He's not wearing any Mizzou gear. At least he wasn't pre-game on the field.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 03:27:43 pm
He has said this publicly.  Question is do you think he believes it, or simply trying to be politically correct?  I hope he means it.

I think he believes it. All the schools he is considering aren't exactly the cream of the crop.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 03:29:35 pm
No mizzou hats, at least

Odom
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqiXSqKWwAAa4Bp.jpg:large)

Dooley

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqiWxzIWkAAm5GU.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqifEgbWsAIxqTf.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqiiiXUWsAEc7j8.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqih5h4WoAAZlX0.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqidy9fX0Acg1h_.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqiZW5BX0AM-KlP.jpg)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogsonHicks on October 27, 2018, 03:31:53 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqifEgbWsAIxqTf.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqiiiXUWsAEc7j8.jpg)

KB can simply swivel his head to the left and see that end zone grass to see the difference in facilities between the two schools. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 03:34:43 pm
There were evidently signs like this all over Mizzou's campus. I think Kappa Sig did this here and he supposedly loved it
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqiIQSrXcAA1oF4.jpg)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 27, 2018, 03:47:38 pm
Heís not even wearing Mizzou gear. Heís just going through the process guys
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 27, 2018, 04:01:47 pm
Heís not even wearing Mizzou gear. Heís just going through the process guys
Many a player has been swayed going through the process
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: kodiakisland on October 27, 2018, 04:21:20 pm
Whether he comes or not, QB needs have to be addressed.  Is it 5 scholarships we are currently using for that position?  If we bring in one or two, who loses their scholarship?  Hyatt, but who else?  They need to thin ranks considerably and stop wasting scholarships.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Etowah on October 27, 2018, 04:27:38 pm
Unfortunately, the word coming from those who know Bryant...he ain't coming to The Hill.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 06:30:52 pm
WOWWWW Kentucky just won on the last play of the game +1 play

UK drove down with 1:30 left. Got a PI call on the last play of the game in the end zone. One untimed down from the two. TD

15-14 final.

Mizzou offense had 0 first downs all second half. 8 straight three and outs.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Leadbelly on October 27, 2018, 06:37:24 pm
Heís not even wearing Mizzou gear. Heís just going through the process guys

You mean he wasnít wearing a black and gold tie, or a Mizzou cap or gold jacket. Wow!! Hey guys that means.....Jack Crap!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 06:38:40 pm
You mean he wasnít wearing a black and gold tie, or a Mizzou cap or gold jacket. Wow!! Hey guys that means.....Jack Crap!

He did wear a razorback hat here, which I think was the implied contrast.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dr. Starcs on October 27, 2018, 06:42:29 pm
Donít tell me he gonna DGB us
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 27, 2018, 06:46:33 pm
Lock was supposed to be all world, and they haven't won an SEC game. Maybe KB will consider that a bad omen for any QB thinking mizou
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 27, 2018, 07:09:48 pm
By 10 or more.

Oooops.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 27, 2018, 07:40:50 pm
Unfortunately, the word coming from those who know Bryant...he ain't coming to The Hill.

So far, out the teams named I feel pretty good. UNC, Mizzou, Baylor and Louisville. All teams that have their issues and are building to some degree. Mizzou and Baylor have the best current records at 4-4. Us (we're the only first year staff), Louisville, and UNC (honestly Larry Fedora and Bobby Petrino may get run out of town by seasons end.) have all been equally bad this season. The way I see it is we have the edge with Morris and Craddock's relationship's that go way back with KB as well as the similarity in offense to Clemson. He won't have to do much studying to it down since Morris built the offense at Clemson. Now if KB visits, Auburn, Oregon, OU, or like WVU I might start to get worried, but in the end we have the decisive lead in two really important areas of interest for KB. Don't really need sources to know that just common sense and hears that hear what he has said himself.

Do tell though if you have something beyond 10th hand knowledge or hearsay.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 07:51:01 pm
Unfortunately, the word coming from those who know Bryant...he ain't coming to The Hill.

Says who? That would be a pretty big change from what i had heard from those who spoke directly with him, though not unbelievable after our fans didn't show up last week.

Mizzou camp seems uniformly discouraged after today's performance.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sshawg on October 27, 2018, 07:54:41 pm
So far, out the teams named I feel pretty good. UNC, Mizzou, Baylor and Louisville. All teams that have their issues and are building to some degree. Mizzou and Baylor have the best current records at 4-4. Us (we're the only first year staff), Louisville, and UNC (honestly Larry Fedora and Bobby Petrino may get run out of town by seasons end.) have all been equally bad this season. The way I see it is we have the edge with Morris and Craddock's relationship's that go way back with KB as well as the similarity in offense to Clemson. He won't have to do much studying to it down since Morris built the offense at Clemson. Now if KB visits, Auburn, Oregon, OU, or like WVU I might start to get worried, but in the end we have the decisive lead in two really important areas of interest for KB. Don't really need sources to know that just common sense and hears that hear what he has said himself.

Do tell though if you have something beyond 10th hand knowledge or hearsay.
Interesting that all at once we have Missouri folks on here telling us he ant coming. OK, I believe you
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on October 27, 2018, 07:57:46 pm
Interesting that all at once we have Missouri folks on here telling us he ant coming. OK, I believe you

If Mizzou doesn't finish this season very well, getting KB will be the least of that staff's worries. I know Mizzou fans that are super unhappy with Odom and company right now. My dad went to Mizzou and is not happy with where things are at and all with a very talented NFL 1st round QB.

I mean we have our struggles at Arkansas at the moment, but at least it's in the first season of our coaching staff and clearly we don't have all the pieces to have high expectations. I don't know how well things are going to go in Columbia next season without Drew Lock.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Mr. Porkleone on October 27, 2018, 08:34:53 pm
Unfortunately, the word coming from those who know Bryant...he ain't coming to The Hill.


Your clueless.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 27, 2018, 08:41:58 pm
Not surprised the mizou fans are confident. All last weekend I thought KB was eating up the attention and the cameras way more than a typical senior looking to transfer. He's probably telling every school what they want to hear
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on October 27, 2018, 09:30:57 pm
Not surprised the mizou fans are confident. All last weekend I thought KB was eating up the attention and the cameras way more than a typical senior looking to transfer. He's probably telling every school what they want to hear

Mizzou is NOT confident. No one there thinks they have a chance anymore, though that may just be frustration w their coaches.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 27, 2018, 09:44:40 pm
Mizzou offense had 0 first downs all second half. 8 straight three and outs.
Impossible. There is no way to play defense with a bunch of 3-stars.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Next1_04 on October 28, 2018, 07:39:18 am
Interesting note if note already noted in the last 15 pages I didn't read.

KB's next stop is supposedly Louisville, who just so happen to be playing...Clemson.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mj4president on October 28, 2018, 08:01:31 am
Interesting note if note already noted in the last 15 pages I didn't read.

KB's next stop is supposedly Louisville, who just so happen to be playing...Clemson.

Ah crap, this ainít good.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 28, 2018, 08:03:51 am
Interesting note if note already noted in the last 15 pages I didn't read.

KB's next stop is supposedly Louisville, who just so happen to be playing...Clemson.

Louisville plays AT Clemson...fwiw
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgon on October 28, 2018, 08:15:56 am
At least at Arkansas we can believe and show that a QB could make a major difference next year.  At Missouri?  Their QB they e got up there now is darned good and they still suck.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Next1_04 on October 28, 2018, 08:34:46 am
Ah crap, this ainít good.

Because? You think he would to go back to Clemson? Please say yes.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on October 28, 2018, 08:42:27 am
I don't think KB wants to spend his remaining eligibility on this dumpster fire.

Yet the other programs he keeps visiting are also dumpsters fires
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 28, 2018, 08:42:51 am
Because? You think he would to go back to Clemson? Please say yes.

So KB is taking a visit to Louisville during an away game? Or is he going to stand on the Louisville sidelines while they play at Clemson?  :)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on October 28, 2018, 09:28:13 am
https://youtu.be/LNiad203Nuc
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogz87 on October 28, 2018, 09:42:17 am
Yet the other programs he keeps visiting are also dumpsters fires
Yeah, if his visits are any indication, he's wanting to try and go play miracle worker for a lousy Power 5 school.

North Carolina, Arkansas, and Missouri are a combined 7-17 and 1-14 in conference play.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 28, 2018, 10:06:02 am
I don't always agree with Cris Carter, but he makes a lot of sense here.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Mr Jade on October 28, 2018, 01:36:26 pm
I don't always agree with Cris Carter, but he makes a lot of sense here.


He sounds like an ass if he's the one saying KB shoulda stayed. Moving schools is competition, stating there isn't. His logic up and died mid-rant.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 28, 2018, 01:49:25 pm
He sounds like an ass if he's the one saying KB shoulda stayed. Moving schools is competition, stating there isn't. His logic up and died mid-rant.

Toward the end of the clip is where he states his reason to stay.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 28, 2018, 01:52:28 pm
Mizzou is NOT confident. No one there thinks they have a chance anymore, though that may just be frustration w their coaches.

Yeah, Dooley blows.  Was a terrible hire by Odom.  Should have looked for a good G5 coordinator that ran a similar offense and was ready to take a step up, a young, hungry, dynamic OC that would have salivated at the chance of working with Lock. 

If KB is looking at the likes of NC, Louisville, Mizzou and Arkansas, I'd say we have most stable situation at the moment, and the best coach to help show case what he can do.  Would probably be the easiest transition for KB as well. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hoglady on October 28, 2018, 06:28:24 pm
He sounds like an ass if he's the one saying KB shoulda stayed. Moving schools is competition, stating there isn't. His logic up and died mid-rant.

His logic was Kelly Bryant didn't develop as a passer and he lost his starting job to a better player.
Carter just said it wasn't a "slap in the face" - he just doesn't think Bryant is talented enough for the pros and he doesn't pass well enough.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 28, 2018, 06:34:12 pm
I don't always agree with Cris Carter, but he makes a lot of sense here.


Bryant had no choice but to transfer.  Trevor Lawrence is a generational talent.

Lawrence would probably be starting for all other college football teams.  There is probably some NFL teams that he could be starting for this season, even though he is just a True Freshman.

Lawrence can't be defended by a defense.  He is just a rare talent that plays a different game than others. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LRHawg on October 28, 2018, 07:14:19 pm
Bryant had no choice but to transfer.  Trevor Lawrence is a generational talent.

Lawrence would probably be starting for all other college football teams.  There is probably some NFL teams that he could be starting for this season, even though he is just a True Freshman.

Lawrence can't be defended by a defense.  He is just a rare talent that plays a different game than others.

LOL. Youíre delusional, but itís very entertaining.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 28, 2018, 07:22:39 pm
LOL. Youíre delusional, but itís very entertaining.

True Freshman, on the road, playing in front of 100,000+ people.

The throw went to where it had to go (the slo-mo replay during the following video shows that).  Then, after the catch Clemson's WR Tee Higgins toyed with the Texas A&M DB during the run to the endzone.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 28, 2018, 07:35:50 pm

Lawrence would probably be starting for all other college football teams.  There is probably some NFL teams that he could be starting for this season, even though he is just a True Freshman.

He wouldn't be starting for Bama. And name one NFL team he would be starting for
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rzrbk4life on October 28, 2018, 07:35:53 pm
True Freshman, on the road, playing in front of 100,000+ people.

The throw went to where it had to go (the slo-mo replay during the following video shows that).  Then, after the catch Clemson's WR Tee Higgins toyed with the Texas A&M DB during the run to the endzone.


Still wonít beat bama
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 28, 2018, 07:48:21 pm
Still wonít beat bama

Might be true if the officials allow Alabama's OL to bear hug and hold Venables' NFL defensive line.

If the officials don't allow that, then Tua will probably be running for his life.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 28, 2018, 07:58:26 pm
Bryant had no choice but to transfer.  Trevor Lawrence is a generational talent.

Lawrence would probably be starting for all other college football teams.  There is probably some NFL teams that he could be starting for this season, even though he is just a True Freshman.

Lawrence can't be defended by a defense.  He is just a rare talent that plays a different game than others. 

Trevor Lawrence is simply better, Cris Carter even stated so.  His argument for kids to not transfer was to utilize the relationships with donors, alumni, etc. that they have access to.  College is not a 4-year commitment, it's a 40 year commitment.  And, since he thinks that KB's football career will be over after his 4th year of eligibility he should not have transferred.  He makes some valid points.

Having stated that, I hope he ends up a Hog!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #hammerdown on October 28, 2018, 08:01:04 pm
Trevor Lawrence is simply better, Cris Carter even stated so.  His argument for kids to not transfer was to utilize the relationships with donors, alumni, etc. that they have access to.  College is not a 4-year commitment, it's a 40 year commitment.  And, since he thinks that KB's football career will be over after his 4th year of eligibility he should not have transferred.  He makes some valid points.

Having stated that, I hope he ends up a Hog!!

If KB comes here and helps turn this program around and conducts himself in a professional manner he will build some pretty good relationships.  Amazing how much favor can be developed in a short period of time when you help a losing program become a winning program.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: alohawg on October 28, 2018, 08:04:04 pm
Bryant had no choice but to transfer.  Trevor Lawrence is a generational talent.

Lawrence would probably be starting for all other college football teams.  There is probably some NFL teams that he could be starting for this season, even though he is just a True Freshman.

Lawrence can't be defended by a defense.  He is just a rare talent that plays a different game than others. 

I understand, you consider Alabama semi-pro. No argument here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on October 28, 2018, 08:18:04 pm
I understand, you consider Alabama semi-pro. No argument here.
Well some of them may be making close to pro money. ;)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Arkansas Fan on October 28, 2018, 08:34:01 pm
Venables sucks. Trevor Lawrence sucks. Clemson sucks.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 28, 2018, 08:35:01 pm
He wouldn't be starting for Bama.  And name one NFL team he would be starting for

Tua wasn't the #1 overall ranked player in the nation when he came out of high school.  Lawrence was.

Also, it should be remembered that Lawrence broke records in Georgia that were set by Deshaun Watson, who is currently carving up the NFL.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 28, 2018, 08:35:09 pm
Venables sucks. Trevor Lawrence sucks. Clemson sucks.

+1 This is what fan boards should be all about!!  :)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 28, 2018, 08:39:11 pm
Tua wasn't the #1 overall ranked player in the nation when he came out of high school.  Lawrence was.

Also, it should be remembered that Lawrence broke records in Georgia that were set by Deshaun Watson, who is currently carving up the NFL.

HS rankings are guesses...Mitch Mustain was ranked ahead of Tim Tebow in 2006, too.

And in 2007 Cam Newton was behind Clint Brewster, Logan Gray, Stephen Garcia, Aaron Corp, John Brantley, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Mallett, and Jimmy Clausen.  It's a guess!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 28, 2018, 09:02:25 pm
HS rankings are guesses...Mitch Mustain was ranked ahead of Tim Tebow in 2006, too.

And in 2007 Cam Newton was behind Clint Brewster, Logan Gray, Stephen Garcia, Aaron Corp, John Brantley, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Mallett, and Jimmy Clausen.  It's a guess!

Cam Newton was not a generational talent.  He wasn't that great of a passer at Auburn.

He was good runner though at Auburn.  Newton's passing has improved since he got in the NFL and since he has received some actual competent QB coaching in the NFL.

Kelly Bryant is probably a better passer right now in his college career than Newton was at Auburn.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Mr Jade on October 28, 2018, 09:43:45 pm
His logic was Kelly Bryant didn't develop as a passer and he lost his starting job to a better player.
Carter just said it wasn't a "slap in the face" - he just doesn't think Bryant is talented enough for the pros and he doesn't pass well enough.

Nonetheless, he said it wasn't competitive to transfer. On the contrary, it is non-competitive to stay at the school and leverage donor good-will. His logic is contradicted by his own statements.

KB clearly thinks he is good enough to make it to the pros, or he already has his degree and just wants another year in football at a good University for a post-graduation degree.

Either way, saying he should stay is saying "be complacent."
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 247Hog on October 28, 2018, 09:46:59 pm
If KB comes here and helps turn this program around and conducts himself in a professional manner he will build some pretty good relationships.  Amazing how much favor can be developed in a short period of time when you help a losing program become a winning program.

Exactly. I'm sure seeing Jerry Jones name on pretty much everything on campus has to help with good relationships.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on October 29, 2018, 03:41:19 am
True Freshman, on the road, playing in front of 100,000+ people.

The throw went to where it had to go (the slo-mo replay during the following video shows that).  Then, after the catch Clemson's WR Tee Higgins toyed with the Texas A&M DB during the run to the endzone.


Watched Brad Taylor do that repeatedly 35 years ago.....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mizzouman on October 29, 2018, 11:28:07 am
https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article220779855.html
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: NuttinItUp on October 29, 2018, 12:16:54 pm
https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article220779855.html

Doesn't sound good for us.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on October 29, 2018, 12:17:41 pm
Doesn't sound good for us.

Sounds like North Carolina to me, if he is going back there for an official this soon after his unofficial visit.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 29, 2018, 12:19:22 pm
Cam Newton was not a generational talent.  He wasn't that great of a passer at Auburn.

He was good runner though at Auburn.  Newton's passing has improved since he got in the NFL and since he has received some actual competent QB coaching in the NFL.

Kelly Bryant is probably a better passer right now in his college career than Newton was at Auburn.

My God, man.

Newton had 2,885 yards, a 66.1 completion percentage, 30 passing TDs, and 7 interceptions in his year at Auburn.

Not a generational talent? Dude was the most dominant college football player maybe ever.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 29, 2018, 12:23:49 pm
Cam Newton was not a generational talent.  He wasn't that great of a passer at Auburn.

He was good runner though at Auburn.  Newton's passing has improved since he got in the NFL and since he has received some actual competent QB coaching in the NFL.

Kelly Bryant is probably a better passer right now in his college career than Newton was at Auburn.

Lay off the meth pipe, old timer.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 29, 2018, 12:27:03 pm
Tua wasn't the #1 overall ranked player in the nation when he came out of high school.  Lawrence was.

Also, it should be remembered that Lawrence broke records in Georgia that were set by Deshaun Watson, who is currently carving up the NFL.

Man your hard on for Clemson is just plain strange.  Do you have a picture of Dabo taped to the ceiling in your bedroom?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 29, 2018, 12:27:58 pm
Man your hard on for Clemson is just plain strange.  Do you have a picture of Dabo taped to the ceiling in your bedroom?

*and Venables
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 29, 2018, 12:31:33 pm
Tua wasn't the #1 overall ranked player in the nation when he came out of high school.  Lawrence was.

Also, it should be remembered that Lawrence broke records in Georgia that were set by Deshaun Watson, who is currently carving up the NFL.

What the flip does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on October 29, 2018, 12:32:37 pm
*and Venables

*and Rick Stansbury
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: toddfromdesarc on October 29, 2018, 12:32:58 pm
*and Venables

Is the true freshman 18? May have to contact the authorities if not. There's definitely some weird shrine to Lawrence in a closet.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 29, 2018, 02:15:31 pm
https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article220779855.html

Like I said earlier, he is telling people what they want to hear. He talked about how great our culture and fans were, and boom, half of hogville already thinks it's a done deal. He's going to say nothing but great things about UNC when he goes there too. He may come here, he may not...but those reading the tea leaves know squat
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on October 29, 2018, 02:18:01 pm
What the hell is wrong with you people? Do I need to talk to my mailman again?
Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on October 29, 2018, 08:33:20 pm
https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article220779855.html

Kelly Bryant visit of Mississippi State is not set in stone yet.
Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on October 29, 2018, 09:35:37 pm
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hoglady on October 31, 2018, 08:51:44 am
Cam Newton was not a generational talent.  He wasn't that great of a passer at Auburn.

He was good runner though at Auburn.  Newton's passing has improved since he got in the NFL and since he has received some actual competent QB coaching in the NFL.

Kelly Bryant is probably a better passer right now in his college career than Newton was at Auburn.

If Bryant was even close to the QB Newton was - he would still be at Clemson.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Wildhog on October 31, 2018, 09:05:19 am
Cam Newton was not a generational talent.  He wasn't that great of a passer at Auburn.

Cam Newton was the most dominant college football player I've ever seen.  You are high.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogwild on October 31, 2018, 11:43:13 am
Quote
So far, out the teams named I feel pretty good. UNC, Mizzou, Baylor and Louisville.

Not happy that State is now in the mix, especially if his visit is on 11/17
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on October 31, 2018, 11:46:49 am
Cam Newton was the most dominant college football player I've ever seen.  You are high.
I just remember him running the zone read, trucking our best LB for a 1st down on a brutal mutual hit and getting up smiling and ready for the next snap.

He took a good team and made them elite single-handedly.

Will go down as one of the best college players ever.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Athog on October 31, 2018, 12:03:11 pm
Ah crap, this ainít good.

He want go to Louisville! It appears to be sinking ship and who knows if that happens who will be the coach!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: a0ashle on October 31, 2018, 01:44:19 pm
I really don't think playing against Clemson will weigh very much with KB. It seems like he has bigger goals then vengeance, at least when I parse his interviews. If I had to guess he probably has a lot of people he likes and is friends with on or around the Clemson team.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hoglady on October 31, 2018, 01:55:24 pm
I just remember him running the zone read, trucking our best LB for a 1st down on a brutal mutual hit and getting up smiling and ready for the next snap.

He took a good team and made them elite single-handedly.

Will go down as one of the best college players ever.

Newton's QB rating the year at Auburn was 181.

Bryant's last year was 131. (too many picks and not enough TD's). I was most surprised at his sacks though (27).
Ty's is like 125 so far this year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsgolfpro on October 31, 2018, 02:45:16 pm
If they had named Storey starter from the get go back before season started and gone with it in practice before season and the defense wasn't a TOTAL joke, I think it's safe to say we beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss which would put us at 5-4 worst case...if that was the case, would everyone still want KB for 2019 or does Storey get the nod for another season? Yes, it's hypothetical, and I'm personally wanting KB to be a Hog, but that "what if" thought ran through my mind.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 31, 2018, 02:48:54 pm
If they had named Storey starter from the get go back before season started and gone with it in practice before season and the defense wasn't a TOTAL joke, I think it's safe to say we beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss which would put us at 5-4 worst case...if that was the case, would everyone still want KB for 2019 or does Storey get the nod for another season? Yes, it's hypothetical, and I'm personally wanting KB to be a Hog, but that "what if" thought ran through my mind.

Had Storey showed enough then he would have been named the starter.  Or anyone else, for that matter.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 31, 2018, 02:50:16 pm
Newton's QB rating the year at Auburn was 181.

Bryant's last year was 131. (too many picks and not enough TD's). I was most surprised at his sacks though (27).
Ty's is like 125 so far this year.


Sacks?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on October 31, 2018, 02:51:37 pm
If they had named Storey starter from the get go back before season started and gone with it in practice before season and the defense wasn't a TOTAL joke, I think it's safe to say we beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss which would put us at 5-4 worst case...if that was the case, would everyone still want KB for 2019 or does Storey get the nod for another season? Yes, it's hypothetical, and I'm personally wanting KB to be a Hog, but that "what if" thought ran through my mind.

The resistance across the team was the major issue for the first 3 games, but the QB issue was a problem just not much of one compared to the resistance.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mykidsdad on October 31, 2018, 02:52:54 pm
If they had named Storey starter from the get go back before season started and gone with it in practice before season and the defense wasn't a TOTAL joke, I think it's safe to say we beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss which would put us at 5-4 worst case...if that was the case, would everyone still want KB for 2019 or does Storey get the nod for another season? Yes, it's hypothetical, and I'm personally wanting KB to be a Hog, but that "what if" thought ran through my mind.
If is a magical word that is unprovable either in a positive or negative direction.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Superhog1959 on October 31, 2018, 03:24:58 pm
The resistance across the team was the major issue for the first 3 games, but the QB issue was a problem just not much of one compared to the resistance.
I am starting to think this also. I think some of the older ones have a issue with rules, discipline and work ethics. If you rewatch some of the games, its right there.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hoglady on October 31, 2018, 03:58:07 pm
Sacks?
10
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 31, 2018, 04:03:09 pm
10

 I was referring to the 125.  ;)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: tusked on October 31, 2018, 04:04:50 pm
The resistance across the team was the major issue for the first 3 games, but the QB issue was a problem just not much of one compared to the resistance.

If you sacrifice a live chicken and bake a cake with possum feet then you can get rid of the resistance.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hoglady on October 31, 2018, 04:09:17 pm
I was referring to the 125.  ;)

It took me a while to figure that out - dang I can be pretty dense at times.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hawgphat on October 31, 2018, 04:14:59 pm
Is KB coming

Or is KB going

Is there any chance we'll soon be knowing?


                        :-\
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 31, 2018, 04:24:30 pm
It took me a while to figure that out - dang I can be pretty dense at times.

Ha! Iím with ya!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 31, 2018, 04:25:38 pm
Is KB coming

Or is KB going

Is there any chance we'll soon be knowing?


                        :-\

ďJust make up your mindĒ, many will say...
Where oh where will he choose to play?...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RagingHawgOn on November 01, 2018, 02:24:27 pm
No link but I read he visited Auburn Tuesday.  SIAP but I had not seen that.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Next1_04 on November 01, 2018, 02:26:02 pm
No link but I read he visited Auburn Tuesday.  SIAP but I had not seen that.

https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article220962935.html
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on November 01, 2018, 02:28:28 pm
I'd wager a lot of money that KB is not coming to AR.  Winning is fun, losing is not fun.  It makes practices worth it and creates a much better vibe.  It's very hard to look at the AR program and see more winning than losing in the next year or so. I think he will choose a school that he thinks has the pieces in place to win. He probably isnt interested in building something...he's probably more interested in continuing something that already has been built.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Next1_04 on November 01, 2018, 02:42:28 pm
I'd wager a lot of money that KB is not coming to AR.  Winning is fun, losing is not fun.  It makes practices worth it and creates a much better vibe.  It's very hard to look at the AR program and see more winning than losing in the next year or so. I think he will choose a school that he thinks has the pieces in place to win. He probably isnt interested in building something...he's probably more interested in continuing something that already has been built.

If that were the case I don't think he would be visiting North Carolina. Twice.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jst01 on November 01, 2018, 02:45:01 pm
If that were the case I don't think he would be visiting North Carolina. Twice.

He wont choose that place, either.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 01, 2018, 03:02:48 pm
I really don't think playing against Clemson will weigh very much with KB. It seems like he has bigger goals then vengeance, at least when I parse his interviews. If I had to guess he probably has a lot of people he likes and is friends with on or around the Clemson team.

That is probably true.  There is nothing for Bryant to be vengeful about.

He simply got beat out by a generational talent.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on November 01, 2018, 03:02:55 pm
I'd wager a lot of money that KB is not coming to AR.  Winning is fun, losing is not fun.  It makes practices worth it and creates a much better vibe.  It's very hard to look at the AR program and see more winning than losing in the next year or so. I think he will choose a school that he thinks has the pieces in place to win. He probably isnt interested in building something...he's probably more interested in continuing something that already has been built.

How much are you willing to wager?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 01, 2018, 03:08:24 pm
I am not that excited about him coming. He is a one year rental on a team that is still going to be in rebuild mode, with a ton of fr trying to learn the system ( wr's ) and a lot of youth on D. I'd be more excited if we could land 2 quality ol grad transfers.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on November 01, 2018, 03:27:29 pm
How much are you willing to wager?

He does make some sense but your definitiveness gives real hope.. I'm sold... now, I just hope you can deliver ..  ;)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Next1_04 on November 01, 2018, 03:28:28 pm
He wont choose that place, either.

Is that you Mrs. Cleo?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: FourthandShort on November 01, 2018, 03:29:31 pm
I am not that excited about him coming. He is a one year rental on a team that is still going to be in rebuild mode, with a ton of fr trying to learn the system ( wr's ) and a lot of youth on D. I'd be more excited if we could land 2 quality ol grad transfers.

While it would be great to add bodies to the OL, I will have to say the ability to add a mobile, experienced QB to this roster would give us the ability to leverage his scrambling ability to take the pressure off the rush.  Also most teams will have to use a spy to try and contain someone with his speed, further limiting the defense. 


While Storey has improved, he is still overthrowing and underthrowing receivers and missing players who have created separation.  KB would be a definite improvement. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on November 01, 2018, 03:30:33 pm
I am not that excited about him coming. He is a one year rental on a team that is still going to be in rebuild mode, with a ton of fr trying to learn the system ( wr's ) and a lot of youth on D. I'd be more excited if we could land 2 quality ol grad transfers.
you dont think a better QB would help the incoming freshman receivers transition faster?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sowmonella on November 01, 2018, 03:31:01 pm
How much are you willing to wager?

I'd like a little of that action as well.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on November 01, 2018, 03:44:30 pm
He does make some sense but your definitiveness gives real hope.. I'm sold... now, I just hope you can deliver ..  ;)

Nah, don't know about definite, if I could get the wager up high enough, I was going to split it with Kelly...........
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: woodhog14 on November 01, 2018, 03:45:17 pm
I am not that excited about him coming. He is a one year rental on a team that is still going to be in rebuild mode, with a ton of fr trying to learn the system ( wr's ) and a lot of youth on D. I'd be more excited if we could land 2 quality ol grad transfers.
So you don't think he will make our program better? Then don't bitch when we go 4-8 next year and Ty is the starter.

Kelly Bryant makes the program better. Period. Isn't that what you want Coach Morris to do right? Make the program better? Gracious...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on November 01, 2018, 03:49:30 pm
So you don't think he will make our program better? Then don't bitch when we go 4-8 next year and Ty is the starter.

Kelly Bryant makes the program better. Period. Isn't that what you want Coach Morris to do right? Make the program better? Gracious...
He helps next year in many ways!!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on November 01, 2018, 03:52:29 pm
I am not that excited about him coming. He is a one year rental on a team that is still going to be in rebuild mode, with a ton of fr trying to learn the system ( wr's ) and a lot of youth on D. I'd be more excited if we could land 2 quality ol grad transfers.

If the stars lined up.. that one year could make us competitive and he be the perfect mentor for KJ... don't see anything but big positives from that.. certainly it's all conjecture but it's gotta be better than where we are, right?
Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on November 01, 2018, 04:30:57 pm
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2018/11/former-clemson-quarterback-kelly-bryant-took-midweek-visit-to-auburn-per-report.html
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: EastexHawg on November 01, 2018, 04:55:24 pm

Trevor Lawrence is a generational talent.

Doesn't "generational talent" mean he is better than every other QB of his generation?

Patrick Mahomes, nine games into his NFL career, says hello.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on November 01, 2018, 05:01:25 pm
Doesn't "generational talent" mean he is better than every other QB of his generation?

Patrick Mahomes, nine games into his NFL career, says hello.

Wasn't Mahomes on our radar one time for some reason?  baseball or something else, father liked us or something?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 01, 2018, 05:25:46 pm
Doesn't "generational talent" mean he is better than every other QB of his generation?

Patrick Mahomes, nine games into his NFL career, says hello.

It is evident that Lawrence has rare talent.

Before Clemson: No. 1 player in the nation by 247Sports and Rivals and No. 2 player by ESPN Ö No. 1 quarterback in the nation by 247Sports and Rivals Ö No. 1 player in Georgia by 247Sports and Rivals and No. 2 player by ESPN Ö USA Today National Offensive Player-of-the-Year Ö U.S. Army All-American Game participant Ö U.S. Army Player-of-the-Year Ö Gatorade player-of-the-year in Georgia as a junior and senior Ö four-year starter at Cartersville High School; began starting in the third game of his freshman year and was 52-2 as starter in his career, including a 41-game winning streak and 14-2 record in the playoffs Ö led his team to four region titles and two state titles Ö had 13,908 passing yards and 161 touchdowns against 21 interceptions in his career Ö set state records for passing yards and passing touchdowns that were previously held by former Tiger Deshaun Watson (2014-16) Ö was 177-256 passing for 3,396 yards and 41 touchdowns against one interception in 12 games as a senior Ö had 200 yards and two touchdowns on 30 carries as a senior Ö was 250-406 passing for 3,904 yards and 51 touchdowns against nine interceptions as a junior in leading his team to a 15-0 record and the state title Ö was 233-364 passing for 3,655 yards and 43 touchdowns against four interceptions as a sophomore in leading his team to a 15-0 record and the state title Ö had 235 yards and four touchdowns on 52 carries as a sophomore Ö was 187-310 passing for 3,053 yards and 26 touchdowns against seven interceptions as a freshman Ö competed in the Elite 11 finals Ö named an Elite 11 Quarterback Ö invited to Nikeís The Opening in 2017 Ö first-team all-state as a sophomore, junior and senior Ö

http://clemsontigers.com/sports/football/roster/trevor-lawrence/
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgsalot on November 01, 2018, 05:46:11 pm
If they had named Storey starter from the get go back before season started and gone with it in practice before season and the defense wasn't a TOTAL joke, I think it's safe to say we beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss which would put us at 5-4 worst case...if that was the case, would everyone still want KB for 2019 or does Storey get the nod for another season? Yes, it's hypothetical, and I'm personally wanting KB to be a Hog, but that "what if" thought ran through my mind.

I would say if our QB's simply quit turning the ball over we're sitting at 5-4 worst case.  Problem is we have who we have KB would help that.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mizzouman on November 01, 2018, 05:59:00 pm
https://missouri.rivals.com/news/grad-transfer-qb-kelly-bryant-recaps-visit-to-missouri-auburn
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: WAHog on November 01, 2018, 06:13:10 pm
If they had named Storey starter from the get go back before season started and gone with it in practice before season..., I think it's safe to say we beat CSU, UNT, and Ole Miss which would put us at 5-4 worst case.

I agree with this part 100%.  I never understood the Cole Kelly experiment.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: avatar on November 01, 2018, 06:14:46 pm
https://missouri.rivals.com/news/grad-transfer-qb-kelly-bryant-recaps-visit-to-missouri-auburn

Sounds like Mizzou
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: FourthandShort on November 01, 2018, 06:24:21 pm
Sounds like Mizzou

Not so fast, wait until you hear about his trip to Auburn today...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on November 01, 2018, 06:31:06 pm
Sounds like Mizzou

I don't know where he goes, but he is talking about Mizzou a lot because that is the most recent OV. He said the same types of things coming off both UNC and Arkansas. He isn't tipping his hand to anyone yet.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: imtad16 on November 01, 2018, 06:37:52 pm
If the below is true and Stidham is going to declare for the NFL. I think KB goes to Auburn. Reasonable close to home, close to Clemson offense like Arkansas, and situation to win soon in last season of eligibility. I guess you can never count out having the close relationships with Morris and Craddock, but I would be surprised if he goes else where if Stidham were to leave.


https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2018/11/former-clemson-quarterback-kelly-bryant-took-midweek-visit-to-auburn-per-report.html

"Auburn will likely break in a new starting quarterback in 2019, with current starter Jarrett Stidham expected to declare for the NFL Draft upon the completion of this season. The Tigers will return three other scholarship quarterbacks in Malik Willis, Joey Gatewood and Cord Sandberg, none of whom have started a college game or taken significant in-game reps at the position for Auburn. The school also currently holds a commitment from four-star dual-threat quarterback Bo Nix out of Pinson Valley. Nix is rated as the nation’s No. 1 dual-threat quarterback and is considered a top-50 prospect nationally in the 2019 class."
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on November 01, 2018, 07:32:42 pm
Sounds like Mizzou
Sounds like a good kid giving a nice interview. Would not expect anything less.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Drop the Mike on November 01, 2018, 07:41:53 pm

If the below is true and Stidham is going to declare for the NFL. I think KB goes to Auburn. Reasonable close to home, close to Clemson offense like Arkansas, and situation to win soon in last season of eligibility. I guess you can never count out having the close relationships with Morris and Craddock, but I would be surprised if he goes else where if Stidham were to leave.


https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2018/11/former-clemson-quarterback-kelly-bryant-took-midweek-visit-to-auburn-per-report.html

"Auburn will likely break in a new starting quarterback in 2019, with current starter Jarrett Stidham expected to declare for the NFL Draft upon the completion of this season. The Tigers will return three other scholarship quarterbacks in Malik Willis, Joey Gatewood and Cord Sandberg, none of whom have started a college game or taken significant in-game reps at the position for Auburn. The school also currently holds a commitment from four-star dual-threat quarterback Bo Nix out of Pinson Valley. Nix is rated as the nationís No. 1 dual-threat quarterback and is considered a top-50 prospect nationally in the 2019 class."


Thatís interesting about Stidham. Didnít realize you could leave early to be a holder in the nfl.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on November 01, 2018, 07:44:23 pm
I think of Bryant as -- forgive the horrid MLB metaphor -- the starting pitcher you rent down the stretch to get that pennant.  And if we were a QB away from a conference title shot?  I'd say "sell your soul to get him."

But, just like MLB, if you're not there?  Save the draft pick(s).

We're not there, use the scholarship on a young guy's potential.

MLB teams trade prospects infinitely more than picks, but who's counting?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: greasy_corner on November 01, 2018, 08:52:04 pm
No link but I read he visited Auburn Tuesday.  SIAP but I had not seen that.

Well, it is the end of the month.  Best time to visit barn.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 01, 2018, 08:57:28 pm
That is probably true.  There is nothing for Bryant to be vengeful about.

He simply got beat out by a generational talent.

Iíd pump the breaks on that for a few years.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 01, 2018, 08:59:06 pm
Well, it is the end of the month.  Best time to visit barn.

I figured the 1st & 3rd of the month would be the best time to visit Auburn since thatís when most govíment benefit checks come in.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on November 01, 2018, 09:34:10 pm
I am not that excited about him coming.

Shocker alert!.....negative vibes post #48424 and counting.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on November 01, 2018, 10:32:35 pm
If the below is true and Stidham is going to declare for the NFL. I think KB goes to Auburn. Reasonable close to home, close to Clemson offense like Arkansas, and situation to win soon in last season of eligibility. I guess you can never count out having the close relationships with Morris and Craddock, but I would be surprised if he goes else where if Stidham were to leave.


https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2018/11/former-clemson-quarterback-kelly-bryant-took-midweek-visit-to-auburn-per-report.html

"Auburn will likely break in a new starting quarterback in 2019, with current starter Jarrett Stidham expected to declare for the NFL Draft upon the completion of this season. The Tigers will return three other scholarship quarterbacks in Malik Willis, Joey Gatewood and Cord Sandberg, none of whom have started a college game or taken significant in-game reps at the position for Auburn. The school also currently holds a commitment from four-star dual-threat quarterback Bo Nix out of Pinson Valley. Nix is rated as the nationís No. 1 dual-threat quarterback and is considered a top-50 prospect nationally in the 2019 class."

He said he plans to make his decision before the end of November. We won't know for sure what Stidham is doing at that point, and even Stidham may/probably won't know. Gus could sell him a lie/feed him what he wants to hear that it's likely, but if he knows Stidham is undecided I don't think that will work on KB. Stidham hasn't had the best year. One of his biggest things he likes CCM so much about was that he was honest with him during recruitment that he may leave Clemson to be a HC. With only one year, trust is a big factor with him, as he has said repeatedly.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 01, 2018, 11:15:35 pm
Iíd pump the breaks on that for a few years.


Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 02, 2018, 06:55:48 am


Heís very good. I just wouldnít call him ď generationalĒ quite yet. He may very well wind up being, but time will tell.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: onebadrubi on November 02, 2018, 07:05:58 am
He said he plans to make his decision before the end of November. We won't know for sure what Stidham is doing at that point, and even Stidham may/probably won't know. Gus could sell him a lie/feed him what he wants to hear that it's likely, but if he knows Stidham is undecided I don't think that will work on KB. Stidham hasn't had the best year. One of his biggest things he likes CCM so much about was that he was honest with him during recruitment that he may leave Clemson to be a HC. With only one year, trust is a big factor with him, as he has said repeatedly.

While I agree with that thinking, bring in KB and auburn pushes Stidham out.   Gus canít be happy with Stidham, they just can seem to exploit one another
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: bphi11ips on November 02, 2018, 07:16:42 am
I canít imagine any GM getting excited about these stats:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/2018.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/2018.html)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LAHogfan123 on November 02, 2018, 07:17:22 am
He said he plans to make his decision before the end of November. We won't know for sure what Stidham is doing at that point, and even Stidham may/probably won't know. Gus could sell him a lie/feed him what he wants to hear that it's likely, but if he knows Stidham is undecided I don't think that will work on KB. Stidham hasn't had the best year. One of his biggest things he likes CCM so much about was that he was honest with him during recruitment that he may leave Clemson to be a HC. With only one year, trust is a big factor with him, as he has said repeatedly.

Well, it's November the 2nd, where's he going to be playing at then?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgtime on November 02, 2018, 09:36:41 am
My opinion is that next will be better for all QBs on campus and for the STUD recruit we have coming in.  KB would just give us larger leap, but only for one year. 

either way, we are OK.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper on November 02, 2018, 10:23:29 am
My opinion is that next will be better for all QBs on campus and for the STUD recruit we have coming in.  KB would just give us larger leap, but only for one year. 

either way, we are OK.
Yes, I agree with you, but that 1 year KJ would have learning from KB in this system could put his development as a QB light years ahead of where he would be otherwise.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: EastexHawg on November 02, 2018, 10:29:51 am
Wasn't Mahomes on our radar one time for some reason?  baseball or something else, father liked us or something?

His dad signed to play basketball for Arkansas before turning pro in baseball.  Even after his spectacular junior season at Whitehouse High School Mahomes didn't have any Power 5 offers.  He could have been had with an offer, but Fat Boy was on "better quarterbacks" like Rafe Peavey.

It's part of the stupidity of recruiting.  Coaching staffs so often decide who they are going to pursue when kids are...kids...and ignore performance.  How can a QB in the second largest classification in Texas, whose dad committed to Arkansas, throw for close to 4,000 yards and 46 TDs as a junior... and with video that demonstrates that incredible arm strength and athleticism...be passed over for a smallish QB from a tiny school in Missouri?

"Because we were already recruiting him"?  By all means, never adapt.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Sed76 on November 02, 2018, 10:38:13 am
Expect the guys who came up with the money for Papa Newton's church to come through and buy Gus another year on the Plains with a very generous offer to Bryant. I've had a feeling from the moment he announced he was gonna transfer he would end up at Auburn. Hope I'm wrong but it would be just our luck.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Wildhog on November 02, 2018, 10:38:59 am
Expect the guys who came up with the money for Papa Newton's church to come through and buy Gus another year on the Plains with a very generous offer to Bryant. I've had a feeling from the moment he announced he was gonna transfer he would end up at Auburn. Hope I'm wrong but it would be just our luck.

I'd bet we come up with a solid offer ourselves.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on November 02, 2018, 11:24:53 am
Yes, I agree with you, but that 1 year KJ would have learning from KB in this system could put his development as a QB light years ahead of where he would be otherwise.

KJ Jefferson benefits greatly if KB comes here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on November 02, 2018, 11:27:17 am
My opinion is that next will be better for all QBs on campus and for the STUD recruit we have coming in.  KB would just give us larger leap, but only for one year. 

either way, we are OK.

It's VERY RARE that a Fr. QB can come in an lead a team in the SEC.  I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but for Arkansas to a kid on campus who can do that, would be even more rare. 

We've had QB's come that were all everything, but they still struggle mightily in their first year.  Mustain was probably the closest we've had to someone who could run the offense, but let's face it...it wasn't exactly Air Coryell in those years either.

I know we need a QB that's a more viable threat to run that who we have on campus currently.  But...you can't expect a Fr. to come in and win games just because he's fleet of foot, and I feel like that's what our fans expect.  Running QB's are great, but they aren't the answer to everything...exhibit A is Mond at TAMU.  Great talent as a runner...but it takes more than just that.

If Kelly Bryant does come....different story.  Proven winner, good passer, above average runner, and seasoned.  He offers a different level of immediate impact, if he can stay healthy and we have anyone who can block for him, and anyone who can get open and catch the ball.   

 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on November 02, 2018, 11:28:45 am
KJ Jefferson benefits greatly if KB comes here.

Agree completely with this.  I know people think KJ will step on campus and be the answer to all that ails us, but I don't buy that.  We've had STUD players come in, and fizzle worse than a two year old firework, MANY times over.  Not saying he will...but I also don't buy that he'll step right in and be able to command the offense. 

Bryant on the other hand.... 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 02, 2018, 11:38:54 am
I am not that excited about him coming. He is a one year rental on a team that is still going to be in rebuild mode, with a ton of fr trying to learn the system ( wr's ) and a lot of youth on D. I'd be more excited if we could land 2 quality ol grad transfers.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Al Boarland on November 02, 2018, 12:59:00 pm
Objectively speaking we are not the ideal situation for him to come in and be successful.  Replacing 3 OL's and a key defensive pieces on an already struggling team is not the spot for a one and done to come in and take the reigns.  If he lands at the UofA Morris will have done one hell of a sales job.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Wildhog on November 02, 2018, 01:02:28 pm
His dad signed to play basketball for Arkansas before turning pro in baseball.  Even after his spectacular junior season at Whitehouse High School Mahomes didn't have any Power 5 offers.  He could have been had with an offer, but Fat Boy was on "better quarterbacks" like Rafe Peavey.

It's part of the stupidity of recruiting.  Coaching staffs so often decide who they are going to pursue when kids are...kids...and ignore performance.  How can a QB in the second largest classification in Texas, whose dad committed to Arkansas, throw for close to 4,000 yards and 46 TDs as a junior... and with video that demonstrates that incredible arm strength and athleticism...be passed over for a smallish QB from a tiny school in Missouri?

"Because we were already recruiting him"?  By all means, never adapt.

I remember you campaigning for Mahomes during his recruitment.  Good call.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Tejano Jawg on November 02, 2018, 01:19:39 pm
It's VERY RARE that a Fr. QB can come in an lead a team in the SEC. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but for Arkansas to a kid on campus who can do that, would be even more rare.
 

Right. As I think about next year, unfortunately, all the realities (like a freshman QB possibility) are keeping my expectations in check. Which is kinda too bad...I'd rather just be stupid and overly optimistic.

But this is exactly how I look at it. I'm excited about KJ coming, but I can't imagine us getting the 1-in-a-thousand miracle freshman. And it does happen to other teams occasionally. But even the big-time ones like Jameis Winston and Johnny Manziel were redshirt freshman. Same for Bernie Kosar when Miami won their first national championship. I remember thinking at the time how utterly crazy that was, winning with a freshman qb.

So, the discussion turns back to Bryant, or Storey with a year of seasoning.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on November 02, 2018, 03:52:15 pm
His dad signed to play basketball for Arkansas before turning pro in baseball.  Even after his spectacular junior season at Whitehouse High School Mahomes didn't have any Power 5 offers.  He could have been had with an offer, but Fat Boy was on "better quarterbacks" like Rafe Peavey.

It's part of the stupidity of recruiting.  Coaching staffs so often decide who they are going to pursue when kids are...kids...and ignore performance.  How can a QB in the second largest classification in Texas, whose dad committed to Arkansas, throw for close to 4,000 yards and 46 TDs as a junior... and with video that demonstrates that incredible arm strength and athleticism...be passed over for a smallish QB from a tiny school in Missouri?

"Because we were already recruiting him"?  By all means, never adapt.

Yeah, it's all coming back to me now... you were on him.. dam what a miss..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: greasy_corner on November 02, 2018, 11:50:00 pm
Yeah, it's all coming back to me now... you were on him.. dam what a miss..

*Damn
 
and the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man would have played the purple dogs over him, so no loss.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 03, 2018, 02:10:19 am
Yeah, it's all coming back to me now... you were on him.. dam what a miss..

Donít act like Arkansas was the only school that ďmissedĒ on the 3-star recruit Mahomes. What about Texas, aTm, & TCU? Not to mention other schools he had interest in, such as LSU & Okie State? None of those schools offered him. He had 3 offers, Tech, Houston, & Rice according to Rivals.
Peavey, on the other hand was a 4-star who had 24 offers from schools such as Auburn, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Baylor, Iowa, Mizzou, GaTech, West Virginia, Arizona, UCLA, & USC.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on November 03, 2018, 02:14:53 am
Arkansas wasnít the only school that ďmissedĒ. What about Texas, aTm, & TCU? Not to mention other schools he had interest in, such as LSU & Okie State? None of those schools offered him either. FWIW.

Interesting to know the stud QB's that year in Texas.. of course we didn't need one, we had Austin locked up..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 03, 2018, 02:34:17 am
Interesting to know the stud QB's that year in Texas.. of course we didn't need one, we had Austin locked up..

Wasnít Austin Allen a year ahead of Mahomes?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HOGINTENNESSEE on November 03, 2018, 07:15:37 am
Wasn’t Austin Allen a year ahead of Mahomes?

He was. Dude doesn't know what he is talking about. Rafe Peavey was the QB we signed the year of Mahomes class.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogwild on November 03, 2018, 12:42:08 pm
MLB teams trade prospects infinitely more than picks, but who's counting?

That's because you can't trade picks, in MLB
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #hammerdown on November 03, 2018, 01:52:49 pm
Is this thread going to reach Gruden proportions ?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: duckman on November 03, 2018, 02:32:05 pm
Is this thread going to reach Gruden proportions ?

Not yet, need help?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on November 03, 2018, 02:38:30 pm
Is this thread going to reach Gruden proportions ?
Not yet, need help?
Will have he same result though
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: East Clintwood on November 04, 2018, 12:29:52 am
If you sacrifice a live chicken and bake a cake with possum feet then you can get rid of the resistance.



Cerrano must not have known about the cake and possum feet.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: East Clintwood on November 04, 2018, 12:41:14 am
He said he plans to make his decision before the end of November. We won't know for sure what Stidham is doing at that point, and even Stidham may/probably won't know. Gus could sell him a lie/feed him what he wants to hear that it's likely, but if he knows Stidham is undecided I don't think that will work on KB. Stidham hasn't had the best year. One of his biggest things he likes CCM so much about was that he was honest with him during recruitment that he may leave Clemson to be a HC. With only one year, trust is a big factor with him, as he has said repeatedly.



That ought to rule Gus out.   Nobody in their right mind should trust that slimeball.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on November 04, 2018, 01:51:15 am
For those of you complaining that "oh, Kelly Bryant will be here just one year and it will not do us any good." I beg to differ. What Bryant would be doing is building a bridge for Arkansas Football to develop the young talent in the 2019 class. Especially on offense. To be around a leader who has talent, has won big before and above all is confident in his abilities would do wonders for the psyche of the offense. Especially the O line. Instead of having to maintain a block longer than what is normally asked of an O lineman in order to accommodate our current QB's deficiencies, ie, slow to read defences, slow to get the ball out of his hands, and just below average QB speed with no wiggle.

Kelly Bryant would win no more than 7 games at Arkansas but he would help us get to a bowl game AND above all teach the 2019 class what it's like to have confidence in one's own abilities. Again, Bryant would build a bridge for the future of Arkansas Razorback Football along with showing the NFL that he can take a team low on top shelf talent and turn them into winners. It's a win-win situation for the Hogs and Bryant. What worries me is the following. You know, I know and even 'yellow dog' in the movie "FUNNY FARM" knows that our current coach is going to have to run off some QB's to make way for his son who played two years backing up John Stephen Jones at Highland Park HS. CCM has a problem. What to do with John Stephen Jones. I can promise you he doesn't want Jerry mad at him yet he doesn't want his son to ride the pine. That's the bump in the road ahead for CCM because he gets a complete pass on this season. We all know this. It's going to be fun to see how things unfold the next year, 2020 or so on, as long as the "Good Lord is willing and the creeks don't rise."
"
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dominicanhog on November 04, 2018, 05:08:23 am
He was. Dude doesn't know what he is talking about. Rafe Peavey was the QB we signed the year of Mahomes class.

meaning we already had our starter for the next 4 years in the Allen's... I had already seen the Rafe mention above.. I knew who ours was.. but go head with yo bad self..lol
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on November 04, 2018, 01:37:54 pm
For those of you complaining that "oh, Kelly Bryant will be here just one year and it will not do us any good." I beg to differ. What Bryant would be doing is building a bridge for Arkansas Football to develop the young talent in the 2019 class. Especially on offense. To be around a leader who has talent, has won big before and above all is confident in his abilities would do wonders for the psyche of the offense. Especially the O line. Instead of having to maintain a block longer than what is normally asked of an O lineman in order to accommodate our current QB's deficiencies, ie, slow to read defences, slow to get the ball out of his hands, and just below average QB speed with no wiggle.

Kelly Bryant would win no more than 7 games at Arkansas but he would help us get to a bowl game AND above all teach the 2019 class what it's like to have confidence in one's own abilities. Again, Bryant would build a bridge for the future of Arkansas Razorback Football along with showing the NFL that he can take a team low on top shelf talent and turn them into winners. It's a win-win situation for the Hogs and Bryant. What worries me is the following. You know, I know and even 'yellow dog' in the movie "FUNNY FARM" knows that our current coach is going to have to run off some QB's to make way for his son who played two years backing up John Stephen Jones at Highland Park HS. CCM has a problem. What to do with John Stephen Jones. I can promise you he doesn't want Jerry mad at him yet he doesn't want his son to ride the pine. That's the bump in the road ahead for CCM because he gets a complete pass on this season. We all know this. It's going to be fun to see how things unfold the next year, 2020 or so on, as long as the "Good Lord is willing and the creeks don't rise."
"

CCM has repeatdly said they're not changing their culture, and they'll see who is on board.  I have a suspicion that he has known for some time that many of the most talented kids aren't playing hard for him for one reason or another. 

If you're the HC, and you're facing that obstacle, ALL you can do is build for the future when you have gotten to the point that you've tried everything, and nothing has worked.  He's done that through what is shaping up to be our highest ranked recruiting class in a long time.  I didn't say "best," because only time will tell in that regard. 

But...at some point, how many games do you really want to win as HC of THIS team, THIS year?  How much WORSE does it look if you do manage to cobble together a team of kids who are playing their hardest, change your style to meet the players' skillsets, and win 6 games...only to turn around next year with a young team and win 3-4? 

Do you see what I'm getting at?  I'm not saying the coaches are throwing off and trying to lose games.  But...in effect, by refusing to adapt to the current players' abilities, you're setting the bar at what you're able to win with trying to put a round plug in a square hole.  That in and of itself...sort of takes care of making sure you don't achieve something that you can't duplicate the following year.  I just wonder if any of that has played out in CCM's mind... and maybe he never had any intention of changing anything enough to try to win more games this season, because he knows his success will be measured by improvement?     
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawgon on November 04, 2018, 02:41:49 pm
CCM has repeatdly said they're not changing their culture, and they'll see who is on board.  I have a suspicion that he has known for some time that many of the most talented kids aren't playing hard for him for one reason or another. 

If you're the HC, and you're facing that obstacle, ALL you can do is build for the future when you have gotten to the point that you've tried everything, and nothing has worked.  He's done that through what is shaping up to be our highest ranked recruiting class in a long time.  I didn't say "best," because only time will tell in that regard. 

But...at some point, how many games do you really want to win as HC of THIS team, THIS year?  How much WORSE does it look if you do manage to cobble together a team of kids who are playing their hardest, change your style to meet the players' skillsets, and win 6 games...only to turn around next year with a young team and win 3-4? 

Do you see what I'm getting at?  I'm not saying the coaches are throwing off and trying to lose games.  But...in effect, by refusing to adapt to the current players' abilities, you're setting the bar at what you're able to win with trying to put a round plug in a square hole.  That in and of itself...sort of takes care of making sure you don't achieve something that you can't duplicate the following year.  I just wonder if any of that has played out in CCM's mind... and maybe he never had any intention of changing anything enough to try to win more games this season, because he knows his success will be measured by improvement?     

So, in order for your theory to be accurate, that means the coaches are ignoring something our players do well in order to concentrate for the future and build for their system.  So, what is it that our players and QBs do well?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: VirginiaHog on November 04, 2018, 03:29:40 pm
No, it means that certain players aren't buying in and therefore it is time to move on.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 04, 2018, 04:06:04 pm
Heís very good. I just wouldnít call him ď generationalĒ quite yet. He may very well wind up being, but time will tell.

Lawrence threw for only 59 yards yesterday.  They still scored 77 points and still won by 61 points.

That is scary that they did that despite Lawrence throwing for only 59 yards.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Oklahawg on November 04, 2018, 07:21:20 pm
Bryant helps contribute to the culture Morris wishes to build. That contribution likely exceeds the win/loss growth he brings for one year.

Morris has a serious problem with decent talent sprinkled about that doesn't care or is unadaptable (and, yes, some of that is on the players). That is more critical than the absolute lack of talent at some positions - underperforming talent is always a greater cancer than overwhelmed talent.

Bryant brings a year of leadership that is 100% behind Morris, and has the talent to demand things that others cannot demand. He has experience as a winner and will be relied upon to be the "will" from the locker room that prevents those late, inexplicable, losses we have grown accustomed to experiencing.

===

One of CBB's biggest problems is that he had to play players a year too early. They didn't necessarily play a lot (wasted a year; the 4-game redshirt rule helps with that to an extent), they didn't necessarily play at a high level, and they missed a year of development. A 4th-year junior is always superior to a true frosh unless the rookie is a high-impact player. Skipper and Kirkland in year one. Ragnow after that.  It became a cycle that we are stlll paying for, and will for another year or two.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on November 04, 2018, 07:32:00 pm
So, in order for your theory to be accurate, that means the coaches are ignoring something our players do well in order to concentrate for the future and build for their system.  So, what is it that our players and QBs do well?

Not necessarily saying it's the offense.  It could be the defense as well.  We don't do anything well on defense.  It wouldn't be that long of a stretch to suggest this team might do better playing "bend but don't break," play zone, and try to put guys in position to read and react.  But...we're not playing that way.  We're still sending blitzes, and asking guys to play on an island quite a bit. 

But...I will say, it doesn't explain how we can't tackle very well.   ;D

Offense wise...I don't think the RPO has helped us at all.  No one sees us as having a viable threat for the QB to take off, and that's a personnel issue.  We would do better to ditch the RPO, and play more of a shotgun based modified run and shoot.  No way he's going to do that. 

I'm not saying he's tanking.  I am saying...we could probably be more competitive if he adjusted to our current players, and he's not going to do that, and he's made that clear.  He has a system...and he's going to get the players to run it.  What scares me a little...is that is precisely what CBB said when he got here.  He was CONVINCED he would win with it.  Welp.... :( 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Kevin on November 05, 2018, 07:28:53 am
they are doing exactly like Nolan did when he came in. he played a totally different style than Sutton. but he had those guys playing his system. it was ugly, asking guys to play a way they cannot play. but establishing the program.

hopefully, in a couple of years, the hogs reap the benefits.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on November 05, 2018, 07:48:02 am
Bryant helps contribute to the culture Morris wishes to build. That contribution likely exceeds the win/loss growth he brings for one year.

Morris has a serious problem with decent talent sprinkled about that doesn't care or is unadaptable (and, yes, some of that is on the players). That is more critical than the absolute lack of talent at some positions - underperforming talent is always a greater cancer than overwhelmed talent.

Bryant brings a year of leadership that is 100% behind Morris, and has the talent to demand things that others cannot demand. He has experience as a winner and will be relied upon to be the "will" from the locker room that prevents those late, inexplicable, losses we have grown accustomed to experiencing.

===

One of CBB's biggest problems is that he had to play players a year too early. They didn't necessarily play a lot (wasted a year; the 4-game redshirt rule helps with that to an extent), they didn't necessarily play at a high level, and they missed a year of development. A 4th-year junior is always superior to a true frosh unless the rookie is a high-impact player. Skipper and Kirkland in year one. Ragnow after that.  It became a cycle that we are stlll paying for, and will for another year or two.

I think KB will accelerate the rebuld by 3 years while he is here for only 1.  The talent that is not buying in and the lack of talent is sad.  It really blows my mind how far BB let this slip.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GHGWPS501 on November 05, 2018, 12:22:17 pm
So of the schools KB may consider, which ones have coaches either on hot or warm seats?

A few come to mind:

Fedora
Petrino
Malzahn (may be safe after W against Texas A&M and too much $ to buy out)
Odom (safe after W against Florida)

I do not think Mullen is on a warm or hot seat.  Florida knows they have the second or third best coach in the SEC.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 05, 2018, 12:30:09 pm
Lawrence threw for only 59 yards yesterday.  They still scored 77 points and still won by 61 points.

That is scary that they did that despite Lawrence throwing for only 59 yards.

Thatís a testament to how good of a ďteamĒ that Dabo has put together. But it doesnít make Lawrence any more of a ďgenerationalĒ player....yet.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on November 05, 2018, 01:14:59 pm
Lawrence threw for only 59 yards yesterday.  They still scored 77 points and still won by 61 points.

That is scary that they did that despite Lawrence throwing for only 59 yards.

How many yards did Lawrence throw for?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 05, 2018, 01:22:32 pm
How many yards did Lawrence throw for?

Completed 8 of 12 passes with 2 TDís and 1 int. Oh, he also threw for 59 yards, in case you havenít heard.  ;)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on November 05, 2018, 01:39:33 pm
they are doing exactly like Nolan did when he came in. he played a totally different style than Sutton. but he had those guys playing his system. it was ugly, asking guys to play a way they cannot play. but establishing the program.

hopefully, in a couple of years, the hogs reap the benefits.

Exactly.  I hope we see the same level of success we did during Nolan's hey-day.  I'll be over here...not holding my breath. 

For one, it seems every team is running the RPO now.  You better be able to get not just one, but two QB's that are dual threat, because if you're running it right, they're going to get hit pretty often. 

As more people run it, more defenses practice defending it, and eventually the next flavor of the month rolls in.  You know what always works?  A great offensive line. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GHGWPS501 on November 06, 2018, 04:20:13 pm
This article makes feel a tad better about getting KB:

https://247sports.com/Article/Kelly-Bryant-transfer-update-North-Carolina-Auburn-Arkansas-Florida-124333466/ (https://247sports.com/Article/Kelly-Bryant-transfer-update-North-Carolina-Auburn-Arkansas-Florida-124333466/)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 06, 2018, 04:39:25 pm
Just got a text from a buddy of mine that lives in MS and is a MSU fan that said KB is going to Starkvegas next weekend when we play MSU for a visit with them. Haven't found a link to support that yet so it may just be a rumor.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 31to6 on November 06, 2018, 07:48:42 pm
Just got a text from a buddy of mine that lives in MS and is a MSU fan that said KB is going to Starkvegas next weekend when we play MSU for a visit with them. Haven't found a link to support that yet so it may just be a rumor.
it is actually mentioned in the article 1 post up
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Sivad on November 06, 2018, 07:58:25 pm
Just got a text from a buddy of mine that lives in MS and is a MSU fan that said KB is going to Starkvegas next weekend when we play MSU for a visit with them. Haven't found a link to support that yet so it may just be a rumor.
Hope thatís a positive for us.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 06, 2018, 11:03:58 pm
Thatís a testament to how good of a ďteamĒ that Dabo has put together. But it doesnít make Lawrence any more of a ďgenerationalĒ player....yet.

They can win without an overreliance on their QB.

They are not a one-trick pony.  That makes it tough for anyone (including Alabama) to defend.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: code red on November 07, 2018, 02:39:34 pm
KJ Jefferson benefits greatly if KB comes here.
There is no doubt about it.  If you take the Hog colored glasses off...then ask yourself why would he come here?  More question marks with the o'line...sophomore slump for Morris (more film out there).  Miami is reaching out to him....he has an official set for Mississippi State.  Those programs are winning.  I just don't think KB gets drafted if he goes 4-8 next year.  I don't think he will take that chance.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 07, 2018, 03:05:46 pm
There is no doubt about it.  If you take the Hog colored glasses off...then ask yourself why would he come here?  More question marks with the o'line...sophomore slump for Morris (more film out there).  Miami is reaching out to him....he has an official set for Mississippi State.  Those programs are winning.  I just don't think KB gets drafted if he goes 4-8 next year.  I don't think he will take that chance.

Patrick Mahomes went 5-7 his last year and went in the 1st round.  NFL doesn't care about record in college.  In one of those losses Tech managed just 10 points against an ISU team that went 3-9 that year.  Another one 17 pts against WVA a team not known for a smothering defense. 

Jared Goff's overall college W/L record was 14-23, and he went in the first round.

None of this is to say KB is a first round talent but it shows that the NFL values individual potential more than won loss record.

At this point KB should probably look at who can showcase my talents more over where am I going to win the most.  I think CM's role in developing Watson may help Arkansas along with the previous relationship from recruiting.  If I was going to worry about any school landing him it would be Florida because Mullen does wonders with QBs and maximizing their potential.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mizzouman on November 07, 2018, 03:21:33 pm
Patrick Mahomes went 5-7 his last year and went in the 1st round.  NFL doesn't care about record in college.  In one of those losses Tech managed just 10 points against an ISU team that went 3-9 that year.  Another one 17 pts against WVA a team not known for a smothering defense. 

Jared Goff's overall college W/L record was 14-23, and he went in the first round.

None of this is to say KB is a first round talent but it shows that the NFL values individual potential more than won loss record.

At this point KB should probably look at who can showcase my talents more over where am I going to win the most.  I think CM's role in developing Watson may help Arkansas along with the previous relationship from recruiting.  If I was going to worry about any school landing him it would be Florida because Mullen does wonders with QBs and maximizing their potential.
Would be surprised if he goes to FLA.  The have a stud QB that will redshirt this year in Emory Jones.  He's the future.  KB doesn't want the drama of having to beat out someone, for better or worse.  At Arkansas, he would just have to beat out Story which would not be that difficult.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: GHGWPS501 on November 12, 2018, 11:09:39 am
Did KB visit UNC this past weekend?  Is he visiting Mississippi State this week when we play them?

Also, it still feels promising for the Hogs to land KB:  https://thespun.com/college-football/kelly-bryant-transfer-schools-update-saturday (https://thespun.com/college-football/kelly-bryant-transfer-schools-update-saturday)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TuCanSam on November 12, 2018, 01:43:37 pm
He is set to go to Miami this weekend. I think thatís his fifth and final OV. Correct me if Iím wrong. (Lookin at you ricepig haha) or Otis
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 01:52:54 pm
He is set to go to Miami this weekend. I think thatís his fifth and final OV. Correct me if Iím wrong. (Lookin at you ricepig haha) or Otis

I thought he was going to be in Starkvegas visiting Ms. State for our game with them?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 12, 2018, 01:55:37 pm
Still see this as fools gold. So he comes for 1 seasons, a season in which they are just getting their 1st real recruiting class as FR, a season still with a patchwork OL, and losing alot of the experience they do have on D. I'd rather see them bring in 2 or 3 grad transfer OL players.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 01:57:44 pm
Still see this as fools gold. So he comes for 1 seasons, a season in which they are just getting their 1st real recruiting class as FR, a season still with a patchwork OL, and losing alot of the experience they do have on D. I'd rather see them bring in 2 or 3 grad transfer OL players.

Why can't they do both?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TuCanSam on November 12, 2018, 02:01:44 pm
I thought he was going to be in Starkvegas visiting Ms. State for our game with them?
I stand corrected. Miss st. This weekend and i read he will be going to Miami so Iím assuming in 2 weeks
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hawganatic on November 12, 2018, 02:10:49 pm
Still see this as fools gold. So he comes for 1 seasons, a season in which they are just getting their 1st real recruiting class as FR, a season still with a patchwork OL, and losing alot of the experience they do have on D. I'd rather see them bring in 2 or 3 grad transfer OL players.

So it isn't possible to bring Kelly in, and 2 or 3 grad transfer OL players?  I'm confused...

Morris's offense is predicated on having a playmaker at QB.  We don't have that.  Getting Kelly in will give Morris the opp to showcase his full offense, which will help in recruiting the following year.

He can't show what he does with what we have now.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 02:15:04 pm
So it isn't possible to bring Kelly in, and 2 or 3 grad transfer OL players?  I'm confused...

Morris's offense is predicated on having a playmaker at QB.  We don't have that.  Getting Kelly in will give Morris the opp to showcase his full offense, which will help in recruiting the following year.

He can't show what he does with what we have now.

He has spent all morning arguing with another poster about how we do not have the talent to win in the SECw, yet doesn't like the prospect of bringing in a great QB that already knows how to run this system... I truly do not understand that logic. IF KB comes here, I'm not saying we're going to set the world on fire next year, but after this year and seeing how big of a deficit we have talent-wise, why would anyone NOT want a good (better than what we have now), experienced QB to come here and play next year? Who cares if it's only for one season?!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 12, 2018, 02:25:38 pm
He has spent all morning arguing with another poster about how we do not have the talent to win in the SECw, yet doesn't like the prospect of bringing in a great QB that already knows how to run this system... I truly do not understand that logic. IF KB comes here, I'm not saying we're going to set the world on fire next year, but after this year and seeing how big of a deficit we have talent-wise, why would anyone NOT want a good (better than what we have now), experienced QB to come here and play next year? Who cares if it's only for one season?!

Because then for 2020 we are back to having little to no game experience at QB. Lets assume for a minute KB does come and does play next year. What do they have Qb in 2020? Connor Noland and KJ Jefferson ( assuming both are still here come 2020 ).  Why would you not rather play them both next year so at least one of them is ready for 2020 with a ton of game experience?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PorkRyan on November 12, 2018, 02:29:25 pm
Because then for 2020 we are back to having little to no game experience at QB. Lets assume for a minute KB does come and does play next year. What do they have Qb in 2020? Connor Noland and KJ Jefferson ( assuming both are still here come 2020 ).  Why would you not rather play them both next year so at least one of them is ready for 2020 with a ton of game experience?

Who cares about game experience?  They are going to have a year to develop while KB speeds up the turnaround.  Morris can't afford to throw a Freshman out there next year and go 3-9. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 02:31:34 pm
Because then for 2020 we are back to having little to no game experience at QB. Lets assume for a minute KB does come and does play next year. What do they have Qb in 2020? Connor Noland and KJ Jefferson ( assuming both are still here come 2020 ).  Why would you not rather play them both next year so at least one of them is ready for 2020 with a ton of game experience?

You're assuming KJ will automatically come in and start next season over Storey. That's not a given. So you're still likely left with the same scenario for 2020. CM has to win some games next year. More than 2. It's one thing to just build for the future in year 1, but you can't sacrifice all of year 2 also just to build your program. And by sacrifice, I mean sacrifice by benching "talent" (yes, I am using that word very loosely) and the experience THAT GIVES YOU THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN GAMES simply to get your guy with more potential more reps. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 12, 2018, 02:32:05 pm
Who cares about game experience?  They are going to have a year to develop while KB speeds up the turnaround.  Morris can't afford to throw a Freshman out there next year and go 3-9. 

So game experience does not matter, but he cant afford to throw a fr out there next year with little game experience and go 3-9. Well then whats he going to do in 2020, throw a rs fr out there and let his 2nd game be in South Bend against ND?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 02:34:22 pm
So game experience does not matter, but he cant afford to throw a fr out there next year with little game experience and go 3-9. Well then whats he going to do in 2020, throw a rs fr out there and let his 2nd game be in South Bend against ND?

If KB were to come here next year, one would think (and hope) that we could maybe put some games away early enough with him to get some valuable second half reps with our QB of the future (whoever that may be). And it would also be good to have KB here to teach and mentor KJ or CN.  2 birds.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 12, 2018, 02:38:37 pm
If KB were to come here next year, one would think (and hope) that we could maybe put some games away early enough with him to get some valuable second half reps with our QB of the future (whoever that may be). And it would also be good to have KB here to teach and mentor KJ or CN.  2 birds.

Yeah after the way this season will most likely end you can't play for 2020.  Play to get as many wins as possible in 2019 while at the same time bringing guys along.  The new RS rule will help a guy like KJ get valuable PT without sacrificing a year of eligibility.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 12, 2018, 02:41:06 pm
Yeah after the way this season will most likely end you can't play for 2020.  Play to get as many wins as possible in 2019 while at the same time bringing guys along.  The new RS rule will help a guy like KJ get valuable PT without sacrificing a year of eligibility.

How is he going to get " valuable playing time " if he is only in mop up time? That is like saying JSJ  & Dalton Hyatt got valuable playing time this year by playing in the NT debacle.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 02:45:24 pm
Yeah after the way this season will most likely end you can't play for 2020.  Play to get as many wins as possible in 2019 while at the same time bringing guys along.  The new RS rule will help a guy like KJ get valuable PT without sacrificing a year of eligibility.

I think by 2020, you have to hope and begin to count on your receivers that will be here next year to help your QB out. Right now, it's a perfect storm of sub-par O-line play, mediocre QB play, and receivers that can't get separation. They all work together to equal one big ball of suck. These star receivers are going to have to come in and prove their merit. If they are as good as their star ratings are and are developed appropriately (still to be seen/proven by this coaching staff, not arguing that), they should ease the transition of a QB in 2020. But if there was a year of sacrificing wins for development/growth, it was this year. You can't do that again next season.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 02:45:56 pm
How is he going to get " valuable playing time " if he is only in mop up time? That is like saying JSJ  & Dalton Hyatt got valuable playing time this year by playing in the NT debacle.

Has Jalen Hurts gotten any quality playing time this year?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mizzouman on November 12, 2018, 04:04:25 pm
MSST, Auburn and Miami.  Decision on Dec 4
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 12, 2018, 04:09:12 pm
Has Jalen Hurts gotten any quality playing time this year?

Jalen Hurts started over 25 games as a FR/Soph including a SECCG and 2 NC games.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 04:11:58 pm
Jalen Hurts started over 25 games as a FR/Soph including a SECCG and 2 NC games.

That wasn't my question or my point. Has Jalen Hurts gotten any quality PT this year? Yes or No?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 12, 2018, 04:14:09 pm
That wasn't my question or my point. Has Jalen Hurts gotten any quality PT this year? Yes or No?

Nope.

But he has more play in NCG's than any Hogs QB will have in non-mop up time come 2020 if KB is here next year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 12, 2018, 04:43:55 pm
Nope.

But he has more play in NCG's than any Hogs QB will have in non-mop up time come 2020 if KB is here next year.

All I wanted was a yes or no answer. You and I can agree to disagree on this one.
Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on November 12, 2018, 05:03:48 pm
Eli Lederman
‏@ByEliLederman
 3h3 hours ago

Per @RivalsWoody, former Clemson quarterback Kelly Bryant is set to make his final official visit to Miami on Nov. 24, and will announce his commitment on Dec. 4. Bryant made an official visit to Missouri on Oct. 27.
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Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on November 12, 2018, 05:08:49 pm
Kelly Bryant sets three more visits, decision date
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Quote
Former Clemson quarterback Kelly Bryant has scheduled his final three visits, as well as his decision date.

Bryant will take an official visit to Mississippi State this weekend before making trips to Auburn and Miami in the next couple of weeks, according to a source close to Bryant.

Bryant will make his decision on Dec. 4, the source said.

Bryant has previously made trips to Missouri, Arkansas, North Carolina and Auburn.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigstie on November 12, 2018, 07:27:48 pm
Are we recruiting KB the same way as any other recruit? Meaning are we contacting him every day? I don't hear any updates on the stations about an updated conversation or a crystal ball prediction. ??
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ricepig on November 12, 2018, 07:31:09 pm
Are we recruiting KB the same way as any other recruit? Meaning are we contacting him every day? I don't hear any updates on the stations about an updated conversation or a crystal ball prediction. ??

I don't think they make predictions on transfers. I'm sure they are communicating as much as they are allowed, one thing this staff does do is recruit relentlessly.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rzrbk4life on November 12, 2018, 07:41:26 pm
I don't think they make predictions on transfers. I'm sure they are communicating as much as they are allowed, one thing this staff does do is recruit relentlessly.

And you see their work showing up in this recruiting class. At AR you have to be devoted to recruiting because we donít have the population or popularity to just pull kids in like the big programs.

CCM is proving it can be done here and I think heís just getting started
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dr. Starcs on November 12, 2018, 08:15:08 pm
Closing the deal on KB would be a huge step for CCM.

After talking to St Gus and Jarrett Stidham, Todd Blackledge seems to think heíll end up at Auburn. ($$$)
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 12, 2018, 09:26:22 pm
Closing the deal on KB would be a huge step for CCM.

After talking to St Gus and Jarrett Stidham, Todd Blackledge seems to think heíll end up at Auburn. ($$$)

Thats right, forgot the only reaaon any player chooses a school ovwr the hogs is $$$$.

Hmm, wonder how Arkansas, not a traditionally hig level recruiting program, is suddenly getting all these recruits. Remeber what Hog fans said about Old misses suddenly recruiting way above normal?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Karma on November 12, 2018, 09:35:34 pm
Thats right, forgot the only reaaon any player chooses a school ovwr the hogs is $$$$.

Hmm, wonder how Arkansas, not a traditionally hig level recruiting program, is suddenly getting all these recruits. Remeber what Hog fans said about Old misses suddenly recruiting way above normal?
That would be the first commitment we've had to winning in a long time if we started paying recruits.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Deep Shoat on November 12, 2018, 10:08:43 pm
Talked to someone very close to the situation today.  The staff still feels like we have a great chance of getting Bryant.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Karma on November 12, 2018, 10:16:05 pm
Talked to someone very close to the situation today.  The staff still feels like we have a great chance of getting Bryant.
Any idea when he's going to make/announce his decision?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Deep Shoat on November 12, 2018, 10:19:56 pm
Any idea when he's going to make/announce his decision?
December 4th
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: InHognito on November 12, 2018, 10:54:59 pm
December 4th

Not good. The quicker the better, IMO. The longer he waits the more the opportunity for the Auburn check to clear the bank
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on November 12, 2018, 11:50:24 pm
You're assuming KJ will automatically come in and start next season over Storey. That's not a given. So you're still likely left with the same scenario for 2020. CM has to win some games next year. More than 2. It's one thing to just build for the future in year 1, but you can't sacrifice all of year 2 also just to build your program. And by sacrifice, I mean sacrifice by benching "talent" (yes, I am using that word very loosely) and the experience THAT GIVES YOU THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN GAMES simply to get your guy with more potential more reps. 
Exactly, Morris has run out of time tinkering with lineups and getting freshman reps. Next year he had better get it all worked out before we hit the field in September because he needs wins, wins, and more wins. If for any other reason then to change the mentality around the program.  College Football isn't a long game anymore. If KB coming in gives us the best chance at wins, then get him here and on the field. We'll worry about 2020 when it gets here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LRHawg on November 13, 2018, 12:29:08 am
GUs will shove stidham out the door if it means he can land Bryant. Heíll promise him anything to come there.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Nipsey Mussle on November 13, 2018, 12:35:27 am
So...the discussion is about whether we should want KB to come here, rather than discussing whether he will come here? Only on Hogville...Yes, crazy notion but we should absolutely take KB if he is so inclined to come here... Moving on, anyone wager a guess on our realistic chances to land him?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Arkansas Hog in Dallas on November 13, 2018, 02:43:42 am
Thats right, forgot the only reaaon any player chooses a school ovwr the hogs is $$$$.

Hmm, wonder how Arkansas, not a traditionally hig level recruiting program, is suddenly getting all these recruits. Remeber what Hog fans said about Old misses suddenly recruiting way above normal?

The difference is, OM definitely was paying players
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MissippHog on November 13, 2018, 03:03:03 am
Thats right, forgot the only reaaon any player chooses a school ovwr the hogs is $$$$.

Hmm, wonder how Arkansas, not a traditionally hig level recruiting program, is suddenly getting all these recruits. Remeber what Hog fans said about Old misses suddenly recruiting way above normal?
I'll give you credit hogsanity, you believe in what you believe in and it's dang near impossible to change your mind.

#NeverYield
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LZH on November 13, 2018, 06:46:51 am
Because then for 2020 we are back to having little to no game experience at QB. Lets assume for a minute KB does come and does play next year. What do they have Qb in 2020? Connor Noland and KJ Jefferson ( assuming both are still here come 2020 ).  Why would you not rather play them both next year so at least one of them is ready for 2020 with a ton of game experience?

Santa Claus never came to your house as a kid, did he?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MissippHog on November 13, 2018, 07:00:58 am
Santa Claus never came to your house as a kid, did he?
Word is, Santa did indeed go see a young hogsanity.  But only for 1 Christmas, which explains his hang-up with KB. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TNhawgfan on November 13, 2018, 07:44:58 am
Talked to someone very close to the situation today.  The staff still feels like we have a great chance of getting Bryant.
And there is a poster on the recruiting forum who said he talked to someone very close to the situation Saturday, and he heard the staff doesn't think they'll get KB because of the lack of talent that would be around him. About right for hogville - everyone has a secret source and no one really knows squat
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 13, 2018, 09:52:33 am
So...the discussion is about whether we should want KB to come here, rather than discussing whether he will come here? Only on Hogville...Yes, crazy notion but we should absolutely take KB if he is so inclined to come here... Moving on, anyone wager a guess on our realistic chances to land him?

If he comes here, fine, I just do not see it as a program saving move, nor do I think it is going to help the program down the line.

What it does how me is that the staff is not impressed with any QB on campus, not do they think KJ will be anywhere near ready to play next year (which goes along with what people in MS say about him, raw talent that needs a ton of work ).
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 13, 2018, 10:00:42 am
If he comes here, fine, I just do not see it as a program saving move, nor do I think it is going to help the program down the line.

What it does how me is that the staff is not impressed with any QB on campus, not do they think KJ will be anywhere near ready to play next year (which goes along with what people in MS say about him, raw talent that needs a ton of work ).

You just laid out exactly why we need KB.... I don't think anyone really thinks he would be a savior to our program in the long run but he could certainly help jump-start some success.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: IMABIELEMA on November 13, 2018, 10:09:13 am
There is no reason to believe any top recruit would pick us over Auburn at the moment, unless they have geographic ties to the Arkansas. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on November 13, 2018, 10:15:35 am
You just laid out exactly why we need KB.... I don't think anyone really thinks he would be a savior to our program in the long run but he could certainly help jump-start some success.

KB would escalate the progress by 3+ years.  He will open up the full advantage of the RPO with the last second pass.  KB can run almost as good as Boyd so the pitch option will have to played differently than defenders do now.  Storey is not a threat to run on the RPO so the pitch man gets 90% of the focus.  KB can hurt a team if they blitz him with his legs AND arm.  He can scramble and break down a defense.   KB will make the Oline better with short block times and his ability to run if nobody is open.   We have NONE of that now.  KB wants to shine as the MAN and that is much easier when you can run the same offense you have run for 3 years. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogsanity on November 13, 2018, 10:17:40 am
.  KB wants to shine as the MAN and that is much easier when you


have talent around you.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: sowmonella on November 13, 2018, 10:18:49 am
I'll give you credit hogsanity, you believe in what you believe in and it's dang near impossible to change your mind.#NeverYield

Is that a nice way of saying "you can't fix stupid"?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 13, 2018, 10:20:32 am
We are really doing a disservice not merging this thread with the 10 page thread on the recruiting forum.  Doing so would create a sure to be epic 30+ page thread.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Grizzlyfan on November 13, 2018, 10:23:41 am
If KB were to come here next year, one would think (and hope) that we could maybe put some games away early enough with him to get some valuable second half reps with our QB of the future (whoever that may be). And it would also be good to have KB here to teach and mentor KJ or CN.  2 birds.
I just can't accept that this team in 2019 is going from 2 wins to putting teams away early enough to have a lot of "mop up" time.  Not with all the new faces that are going to be out there on both sides of the ball.

As far as development, the backups aren't going to develop by watching Kelly Bryant.  Players develop by taking snaps in practice.  And every snap that Kelly Bryant takes in practice are snaps that young QB's wont' get.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on November 13, 2018, 10:57:12 am
I just can't accept that this team in 2019 is going from 2 wins to putting teams away early enough to have a lot of "mop up" time.  Not with all the new faces that are going to be out there on both sides of the ball.

As far as development, the backups aren't going to develop by watching Kelly Bryant.  Players develop by taking snaps in practice.  And every snap that Kelly Bryant takes in practice are snaps that young QB's wont' get.

I agree that we probably won't be putting teams away in the first half but I do believe we would win more. Just look at how many games this year we more than likely would have won if we had KB. Co. State, win, A&M, win, Ole Miss, win, Vandy, win, and I would even argue we would've beaten NT if not for 6 (!!) Interceptions. That's 4 or 5 more wins right there giving us a record of 6-4 or 7-3 with 2 games to go. There's a realistic chance we could have had 7 or 8 wins this year if we would have KB. Can these young guys get better from being thrown into the fire immediately, sure, but there's also the real chance it could hurt them in the long run if they really struggle (which they would). Unless you're some 5* prodigy (Lawrence from Clemson) the best thing to do is sit your first year and develop both your mind and body. It's crazy to me to think some of you don't think watching a QB like KB run the system the way it's supposed to run wouldn't greatly benefit a freshman or sophomore.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 13, 2018, 11:16:03 am
We are really doing a disservice not merging this thread with the 10 page thread on the recruiting forum.  Doing so would create a sure to be epic 30+ page thread.

Careful, if you say "epic 30+ page thread" three times, PiP will show up....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 13, 2018, 11:20:49 am
Careful, if you say "epic 30+ page thread" three times, PiP will show up....

Hoping, I'm ready to pop dem bottles.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 13, 2018, 12:07:03 pm
Hoping, I'm ready to pop dem bottles.

Careful what you wish for baw
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Reservoir Hogs on November 13, 2018, 01:08:33 pm
There is no reason to believe any top recruit would pick us over Auburn at the moment, unless they have geographic ties to the Arkansas. 

1 - St Gus is a Slime ball
2 - St Gus is a mediocre coach who under performs with top talent
3 - St Gus has yet to develop a QB in his time as HC above the HS level
4 - St Gus might not even be on the plains next year
5 - St Gus is a Slime ball
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hopeful Hog on November 13, 2018, 02:52:58 pm
1 - St Gus is a Slime ball
2 - St Gus is a mediocre coach who under performs with top talent
3 - St Gus has yet to develop a QB in his time as HC above the HS level
4 - St Gus might not even be on the plains next year
5 - St Gus is a Slime ball

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
5. No
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #hammerdown on November 13, 2018, 03:27:29 pm
Careful, if you say "epic 30+ page thread" three times, PiP will show up....

Only if you look in the mirror while you say it.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: arthurhawgerelli on November 13, 2018, 03:47:35 pm
December 4th

Does anybody happen to know when Chad Morris' birthday is?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: PonderinHog on November 13, 2018, 03:50:14 pm
Does anybody happen to know when Chad Morris' birthday is?
I do now...
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MissippHog on November 13, 2018, 04:43:59 pm
Does anybody happen to know when Chad Morris' birthday is?
December 4, 1968
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Nipsey Mussle on November 13, 2018, 08:13:25 pm
If he comes here, fine, I just do not see it as a program saving move, nor do I think it is going to help the program down the line.

What it does how me is that the staff is not impressed with any QB on campus, not do they think KJ will be anywhere near ready to play next year (which goes along with what people in MS say about him, raw talent that needs a ton of work ).

1. There shouldn't be any rational person who is thinking this is a "program saving move." The program has already been destroyed, good recruiting is what we all should hope slowly gets us back to respectability. Let's just remove that narrative.
2. It could help the program down the line as it could provide a fast track sample of what Morris says he is bringing. The morale of the fan base and trust from recruits should be helped by it, both continuing past that season, presumably.
3. Wanting a guy who started in the playoffs last year does not equal a belief that the current qb's can't cut it. It reveals the view that Storey and Kelley aren't seen as starters for next year. JSJ and Noland would merely be sophomores the year after KB left. How they're viewed would have little to no bearing on the decision to bring in KB.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on November 13, 2018, 08:23:42 pm
Careful, if you say "epic 30+ page thread" three times, PiP will show up....
Bro I BEEN here. I just prefer the recruiting forum to mmqb
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 13, 2018, 10:38:25 pm
Bro I BEEN here. I just prefer the recruiting forum to mmqb

Nothing but love PIP and I hope come 12/4 we have a reason to pop dem bottles.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogcards on November 14, 2018, 08:39:03 am
Fine-bum thinks he's ours.

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on November 14, 2018, 09:02:12 am
Nothing but love PIP and I hope come 12/4 we have a reason to pop dem bottles.
I been saying we'd get dude since last spring on a dead-ass wing and a prayer; I aint backing down now!!  ;D
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: BigBrandonAllenFan on November 14, 2018, 03:15:25 pm
Fine-bum thinks he's ours.

He is probably right.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Karma on November 14, 2018, 03:17:14 pm
I been saying we'd get dude since last spring on a dead-ass wing and a prayer; I aint backing down now!!  ;D
Nothing but love PIP but isn't everything you say a dead-ass wing and a prayer?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Sed76 on November 14, 2018, 03:30:41 pm
Fine-bum thinks he's ours.

He also said many times towards the end of last season Gus would be our next coach. He could be right or he could be wrong but wouldn't make any bets based on what that idiot says.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on November 14, 2018, 03:39:54 pm
I've been saying all along Auburn is our biggest threat to get him, otherwise it's a done deal. Big round of Morris vs Gus on this guy.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on November 14, 2018, 03:44:28 pm
Nothing but love PIP but isn't everything you say a dead-ass wing and a prayer?
no, i always keep it real.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Piggfoot on November 14, 2018, 03:51:38 pm
Kelly Bryant comes here for one year,
Who is he going to be able to throw it to?  Yíthink one or two of the freshmen will pick up the offense quick enough or will our present receivers miraculously improve?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MAGA45 on November 14, 2018, 04:07:04 pm
OhmyGrady and HH exclusively every play.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Seebs on November 14, 2018, 04:10:37 pm
We gotta get you a girlfriend or a password to a special site.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 14, 2018, 04:19:06 pm
In addition to Henry, we have three flat out stud wide outs coming in so there should be plenty of targets.  WR & RB are places where freshmen can shine.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OkieBack on November 14, 2018, 04:29:35 pm
In addition to Henry, we have three flat out stud wide outs coming in so there should be plenty of targets.  WR & RB are places where freshmen can shine.

Regardless of who is at QB, we will at least have some speed coming into the receiving corps.  Granted they will be Freshmen and will take some lumps, but even youth can outrun some defenders.  Mix in some speedsters on the edge with O'Grady...I think the passing game will come alive a bit more than it was this last season.  Just gotta have someone to get the ball to them.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cambridge Hog on November 14, 2018, 04:31:06 pm
Serious question: do we really expect freshmen WR to come in and make a huge impact? Many are saying Woods is our best WR. Itís not like he is lighting it up. Potential? Plenty. But that doesnít mean he can whip SEC DBs on a regular basis.

Donít get me wrong, I love the WR class coming in, but Iím not counting on them looking like All SEC players in their first year. Itís a big adjustment from high school to the SEC.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ivanhog on November 14, 2018, 04:31:55 pm
I heard some guy on a Sports talk show saying if Kelly Bryant comes here he'll be leaving in a full body cast with our offensive line.  Good receivers can make an average quarterback look good.  Receivers running the wrong routes and taking plays off can make a good quarterback look worse than mediocre.  Freshmen can be great athletes but it they don't learn the offense, as Holtz put it a faster guy just gets to the wrong place faster.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Mike_e on November 14, 2018, 04:43:42 pm
Serious question: do we really expect freshmen WR to come in and make a huge impact? Many are saying Woods is our best WR. Itís not like he is lighting it up. Potential? Plenty. But that doesnít mean he can whip SEC DBs on a regular basis.

Donít get me wrong, I love the WR class coming in, but Iím not counting on them looking like All SEC players in their first year. Itís a big adjustment from high school to the SEC.

If there was only one then yes, maybe so.

So long as they understand that they just have to hold onto the ball when they catch it then they will be gold.

There are few teams that have enough DBacks to cover more than one or two really good receivers.

OK maybe they are mostly all in the SEC west but hey, what ya gonna do?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on November 14, 2018, 04:53:35 pm
I heard some guy on a Sports talk show saying if Kelly Bryant comes here he'll be leaving in a full body cast with our offensive line.  Good receivers can make an average quarterback look good.  Receivers running the wrong routes and taking plays off can make a good quarterback look worse than mediocre.  Freshmen can be great athletes but it they don't learn the offense, as Holtz put it a faster guy just gets to the wrong place faster.

Just because some yahoo on the radio said that, doesn't make it true. The O-Line hasn't been that bad this year, and it looks worse than it is because our quarterback holds the ball too long on half his dropbacks and can't escape the rush on the others. A better QB that can get the ball out on time makes the O-line look better. KB would do just fine here.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: havok on November 14, 2018, 05:04:18 pm
I am hoping we have a clear number 1 QB at least after Spring..(But before then even better)..so the Receivers know exactly who will be organizing off season workouts..and spending lots and lots of time working on routes and timing...and getting on the same page.





Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on November 14, 2018, 05:06:48 pm
Trey, Treylon, Hudson, CJ, Mike, TQ, Koilan, Shamar....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #hammerdown on November 14, 2018, 05:09:33 pm
In b4 merged
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: WizardofhOgZ on November 14, 2018, 05:34:26 pm
Serious question: do we really expect freshmen WR to come in and make a huge impact? Many are saying Woods is our best WR. Itís not like he is lighting it up. Potential? Plenty. But that doesnít mean he can whip SEC DBs on a regular basis.

Donít get me wrong, I love the WR class coming in, but Iím not counting on them looking like All SEC players in their first year. Itís a big adjustment from high school to the SEC.

Don't you remember 2008?  Petrino's first Arkansas team, had a similar season to what we are experiencing this year.  But the one bright spot were those 3 true freshmen WR - Joe Adams, Jarius Wright and Greg Childs.  Now, they all got better as they got older; but they were pretty doggone good right away.  IIRC, Anthony Lucas was pretty good as a freshman as well.

It's the old Darrell Royal cliche (but so true): "if a dog's gonna bite, he'll bit as a pup". 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: STLhawg on November 14, 2018, 09:07:46 pm
Anyone hear exactly what Treylon Burks' injured? 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ballz2thewall on November 14, 2018, 09:13:06 pm
our wr's aren't showing much, but they're not as inept as the numbers show.

a qb with an arm and some instinct could do some damage, particularly on the short screens and slants. on the slants in particular. rarely is a slant receiver "open" in the traditional sense. the lb or db is usually on his back. a good qb can zip the ball in anyway. some get batted down, but some connect.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: widespreadsooie on November 14, 2018, 09:14:01 pm
I think we'll be fine. Morris, at SMU, didn't recruit much more talent from year 1 to 2 or even 2 to 3 but his teams improved in those years. Getting his own guys in here is the biggest plus. The fact they're so talented is icing on the cake. We should at least be competitive next season, with a good amount of freshman/transfer production.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: widespreadsooie on November 14, 2018, 09:14:44 pm
We drainin' the swamp baw
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: bennyl08 on November 14, 2018, 09:18:20 pm
Kelly Bryant comes here for one year,
Who is he going to be able to throw it to?  Yíthink one or two of the freshmen will pick up the offense quick enough or will our present receivers miraculously improve?

Our 2015 offense was virtually identical to the 2013 and 2014 offense that stunk it up. It wasn't a miracle that magically turned things around offensively. It was a combination of experience among the offensive group and a coach who knew what he was doing. That team was full of potential but desperately lacking in production up to that point.

Given the lack of development and actual regression in terms of player development that we've seen with the current coaching staff, I'm not holding my breath that such a turn around will occur. However, it has happened enough times in college football (a very rapid uptick in production with a team that's under-produced relative to their talent) that it shouldn't be too shocking if it does happen.

Jordan Jones had an offer to Bama before he even started his junior year. He has shown flashes of his potential but severely lacks in consistency. Pettway has the size and speed to be a #1 guy but again, lacks consistency in route running and his hands. Kolian Jackson has the looks of a young Cobi Hamilton. Not super good immediate burst but great long stride top end speed. Stewart, Warren, and Barnes are all in that shifty, small, quicker than fast receiver mold, but none of them have had sustained burns, just flashes. Woods looks and plays a good bit like Keon Hatcher as well. Not going to burn you with pure speed, but still finds a way to get behind the defense and plays very physical. But also doesn't play consistently.

The talent is already here if it can just be properly developed. Sure, it wouldn't be the first case of high potential that didn't pan out, but the probability of none of the current guys panning out is quite small and wouldn't bode well for whoever comes here in the future in terms of development.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: colbs on November 14, 2018, 09:21:03 pm
Kelly Bryant comes here for one year,
Who is he going to be able to throw it to?  Yíthink one or two of the freshmen will pick up the offense quick enough or will our present receivers miraculously improve?
Itís a lot easier for WR to come in and play early than most positions.  If Burks is good to go by the Fall I bet he ends up with a starting spot.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: bennyl08 on November 14, 2018, 09:43:59 pm
Don't you remember 2008?  Petrino's first Arkansas team, had a similar season to what we are experiencing this year.  But the one bright spot were those 3 true freshmen WR - Joe Adams, Jarius Wright and Greg Childs.  Now, they all got better as they got older; but they were pretty doggone good right away.  IIRC, Anthony Lucas was pretty good as a freshman as well.

It's the old Darrell Royal cliche (but so true): "if a dog's gonna bite, he'll bit as a pup".

They showed hope for the future, but they weren't exactly the "one" bright spot. Those three combined for 998 yards and 5 td's on 68 receptions. Previous players in Michael Smith, DJ Williams, London Crawford, and Lucas Miller combined for 1822 yards and 8 td's on 150 receptions.

The young pups certainly showed some bight, but as true freshmen, they were overshadowed by the older players in the passing game.

For comparison, in their first years playing here in 2017, Jones, Stewart, and Nance put up a combined 1344 yards and 11 td's on 91 receptions. Jones had redshirted and Nance was a JUCO to be fair, but let's not pretend like our guys didn't bite as pups. Problem is, in their second year, those same three have thus far put up 328 yards 1 td on 28 receptions in 2018.

Given that this team gave up on Bielema last year, there is no logic in the theory that these upperclassmen are somehow Bielema loyalists and trying to sabatoge the new coach. Maybe their skill sets don't work as well with the new scheme, but as a coach, you have to accommodate your scheme to the talent you have on hand. You didn't see Petrino have Knile try and run a one-back zone blocking scheme nor did he have Dennis Johnson run a power I scheme. You didn't see Petrino have Mallett do a ton of roll outs and you didn't see Wilson chuck the ball downfield as often. Bama's offense is very different with Tua than it was with Hurts. It was very different when they had a bonafide qb in AJ McCarron than when they had mere game managers like McElroy and JPW.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: avater on November 14, 2018, 09:54:38 pm
Kelly Bryant comes here for one year,
Who is he going to be able to throw it to?  Yíthink one or two of the freshmen will pick up the offense quick enough or will our present receivers miraculously improve?

One would hope he will be able to throw it to the guy who is open and by chance is wearing a Razorback jersey
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: #1 STUNNA on November 14, 2018, 10:06:42 pm
Burks and Knox....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on November 14, 2018, 10:09:08 pm
Just saying....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigsknuckles on November 14, 2018, 11:43:50 pm
If you don't have an O-Line that can keep the opposing defense out of our backfield, then what is the effin point?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MissippHog on November 15, 2018, 04:12:50 am
Burks and Knox....
I would say Knox and Henry for sure.  They already look the part.  As for Burks, I think it depends on how his recovery goes. 
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Superhog1959 on November 15, 2018, 07:26:46 am
If you don't have an O-Line that can keep the opposing defense out of our backfield, then what is the effin point?
When Ty drops back to pass, he looks like he knows he is going to get hit. To what degree of hit hes not sure, but he knows its coming. Sometimes its like (get the snap) bamm. If for some unknown reason he gets the ball drops back and no ones there it freaks him out.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on November 15, 2018, 07:41:48 am
Serious question: do we really expect freshmen WR to come in and make a huge impact? Many are saying Woods is our best WR. Itís not like he is lighting it up. Potential? Plenty. But that doesnít mean he can whip SEC DBs on a regular basis.

Donít get me wrong, I love the WR class coming in, but Iím not counting on them looking like All SEC players in their first year. Itís a big adjustment from high school to the SEC.

We don't need them to be ALL SEC.  We just need them to be a threat on the outside and go across the middle to drag the safeties out of run support.  How would we have done with 4 FRESHMEN WRs like Mike Woods this year?   The WRs we have committed are much better than Woods in some cases.   I feel certain that every game at least one or 2 of them will shine to negate the freshman inconsistency of the others.   Woods will be wiser, stronger and more mature player next year as well.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on November 15, 2018, 09:34:12 am
If you don't have an O-Line that can keep the opposing defense out of our backfield, then what is the effin point?

why do people keep saying this? O-line hasn't been that bad this year. QB has had plenty of time to throw the ball, we just don't have a QB that can throw worth a flip.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogmatic on November 15, 2018, 09:39:32 am
why do people keep saying this? O-line hasn't been that bad this year. QB has had plenty of time to throw the ball, we just don't have a QB that can throw worth a flip.

Wrong.  The quick passing game success proved you wrong, as did the loss of the quick passing game since the 2nd half of the OM game.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 010HogFan on November 15, 2018, 11:04:55 am
Wrong.  The quick passing game success proved you wrong, as did the loss of the quick passing game since the 2nd half of the OM game.

Not really sure what you mean. The reality is, our QB is not good enough to place the blame solely on the O-line. Half the sacks have been his fault for holding onto the ball too long and not knowing when to throw it away. It happens every game. Twist that however you want.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogbit on November 15, 2018, 11:42:15 am
Where is the 2 TE set?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HenduHog on November 15, 2018, 12:59:15 pm
Anyone hear exactly what Treylon Burks' injured? 


ACL
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pumbaa on November 15, 2018, 01:09:27 pm
I think Woods will make a jump from year 1 to year 2 as well. He has flashed at times as a true freshman.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: OkieBack on November 15, 2018, 01:33:02 pm
Not really sure what you mean. The reality is, our QB is not good enough to place the blame solely on the O-line. Half the sacks have been his fault for holding onto the ball too long and not knowing when to throw it away. It happens every game. Twist that however you want.

I would say 50% O-Line issues and 50% QB holding on too long.  What the coaches need to address in the off-season is (A) Who will QB the offense in 2019, (B) How do we beef up that O-Line, and (C) How do we move the pocket or create short-timed passes to alleviate the need for a top-notch O-Line?  O-Lines have to be developed through recruiting and off-season strength and conditioning.

There are ways around it for 2019.  Some call it smoke and mirrors.  I just think of it as logistics:  Figure out how to create a pocket of least resistance and/or shorten the time the QB has to hold onto the ball in order to complete a pass.  Obviously for deep passes the QB will have to stay in the pocket longer, but hopefully our WR speed will increase significantly in 2019.

It can be done and Morris and Staff will already know how to adjust the offense going forward to accompany the abilities of the QB and the WR's.  I mean it can't be any worse in 2019 than it has been in 2018, right?  Lol
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Athog on November 15, 2018, 06:20:13 pm
Kelly Bryant comes here for one year,
Who is he going to be able to throw it to?  Yíthink one or two of the freshmen will pick up the offense quick enough or will our present receivers miraculously improve?

Yes!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on November 15, 2018, 07:56:10 pm
Woods will be a stud he will be an impact WR next year. Jones has elite speed and could become a deep threat.

CJ and Henry will be threats for sure. And we have real serious bigtime talent coming at WR that will be ready and able to help. Whoever the QB is next season will have some real weapons.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Cave City Joe on November 15, 2018, 08:24:14 pm
why do people keep saying this? O-line hasn't been that bad this year. QB has had plenty of time to throw the ball, we just don't have a QB that can throw worth a flip.
Ask our running backs how good they are
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: LAHogfan123 on November 15, 2018, 09:06:16 pm
why do people keep saying this? O-line hasn't been that bad this year. QB has had plenty of time to throw the ball, we just don't have a QB that can throw worth a flip.

Okay, but do you see our Oline better next year when we lose some good seniors off of it after this season?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Bkhardicars on November 17, 2018, 01:38:00 pm
I hope he doesn't change the announcement date for his new team.Cant believe he'd announce not DEC 4th on CM birthday and announce for someone else..After seeing how we don't block, wouldn't be shocked to see him change the date of the big presser.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Al Boarland on November 17, 2018, 01:40:13 pm
Do you think he knows Morris' b'day?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: razortrack on November 17, 2018, 01:40:27 pm
Wonder whatís going through his mind watching this dumpster fire?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on November 17, 2018, 01:41:26 pm
If his mind was made up he wouldnít still be visiting places

Who knows how he will lol at this game. He could look at it as there were a lot of plays left out on the field he would have made. That Ty canít
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Bkhardicars on November 17, 2018, 01:42:42 pm
Absolutely..I believe that at the time he made his announcement it was with the full intention of giving CM a "birthday gift". It is no coincidence he chose that day.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on November 17, 2018, 01:46:34 pm
Absolutely..I believe that at the time he made his announcement it was with the full intention of giving CM a "birthday gift". It is no coincidence he chose that day.

I think it is. But hopefully Iím wrong
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Bkhardicars on November 17, 2018, 01:57:38 pm
I've heard this from folks more in the know than I, which isn't saying much.(I go to church with one of the radio personalities)..Again,
probably just his eductated opinion, but he does a lot of time on the Razorback beat)..Remember, CM has been recruiting this guy and known him since 9th grade..KB definitely knows it is CM birthday .If he didn't, you can rest assured in one of his thousands of text messages  to KB, CM referenced it after learning the announcement date.. ON a Tuesday of all days...A strange day for a major announcement...Just saying, if he changes the date of announcement, rest assured we are no longer in the running...

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogs GoneWild on November 17, 2018, 02:08:04 pm
Itís not a given that Bryant will start over this guy on miss st
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigstie on November 17, 2018, 02:45:56 pm
Itís not a given that Bryant will start over this guy on miss st
This....    The State back up is better than any qb we currently have. If anything, today may have eliminated State from his mix.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: jcul28 on November 17, 2018, 02:48:16 pm
If KB donít come, 2 wins next year may be a miracle.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: alohawg on November 17, 2018, 02:53:55 pm
If he takes out an insurance policy before Tuesday to protect his projected NFL earnings potential, he's an Arkansas lock.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Justifiable Hogicide on November 17, 2018, 02:56:48 pm
Who wouldnít want to play for high school coach with his own gimmicky over complicated ďsystemĒ that does not work?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogfan14 on November 17, 2018, 02:58:27 pm
Who wouldnít want to play for high school coach with his own gimmicky over complicated ďsystemĒ that does not work?

Worked pretty well for Deshaun Watson, DeAndre Hopkins, Martavis Bryant, Sammy Watkins, Courtland Sutton, etc.

Unfortunately we donít have any of those players on the roster yet.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigstie on November 17, 2018, 03:41:33 pm
If he takes out an insurance policy before Tuesday to protect his projected NFL earnings potential, he's an Arkansas lock.
Who's to say he wouldn't do that no matter where he goes  ???
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: alohawg on November 17, 2018, 03:44:48 pm
Who's to say he wouldn't do that no matter where he goes  ???

True, just trying to lighten the darkness with a lighthearted laugh. We need some lol's.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: ifghog on November 17, 2018, 03:57:27 pm
You guys crack me up....Saban couldn't win 4 games with this team....no idea if Bryant comes but we have as good a shot as anyone else. I'll
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hogwild on November 17, 2018, 03:58:18 pm
He was at the game today correct?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on November 17, 2018, 03:59:50 pm
I actually think this game helped our chances with Bryant. Miss state showed that they have a pretty good backup QB. We showed we are weak at that position. Helps our case even more with him having one year to play
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pigstie on November 17, 2018, 04:00:01 pm
He was at the game today correct?
He was.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Soooie21 on November 17, 2018, 04:03:00 pm
Nothing wrong with the system...This group sucks...there were 2 plays in the 1st half that would have been scores if we could catch and throw..missed fg...and the 2nd was worse.......almost forgot..the refs suck again..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: East Clintwood on November 17, 2018, 04:11:42 pm
He was at the game today correct?



This was only a game only in the sense that the Harlem Globetrotters playing the Washington Generals was a game.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Hog N Bama on November 17, 2018, 04:30:04 pm
If he is smart he will go where he can make the biggest impact and headlines, and that is on THE HILL !
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AirWarren on November 17, 2018, 04:31:18 pm
If he is smart he will go where he can make the biggest impact and headlines, and that is on THE HILL !

Lol.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Swinelake on November 17, 2018, 04:33:58 pm
Absolutely..I believe that at the time he made his announcement it was with the full intention of giving CM a "birthday gift". It is no coincidence he chose that day.

If I heard correctly, that's also his mom's birthday.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on November 17, 2018, 06:09:13 pm
Anything new here after his visit today?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Karma on November 17, 2018, 06:16:56 pm
If Bryant values winning next year, why would he come here?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: mykidsdad on November 17, 2018, 06:22:44 pm
If Bryant values winning next year, why would he come here?
If Bryant values winning next year, why would he come here?

Because he will get most if not all the credit if we can win say 5-6 games. so 200% improvement will be attributed to him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 18, 2018, 12:02:10 pm
If Bryant values winning next year, why would he come here?

Because he will get most if not all the credit if we can win say 5-6 games. so 200% improvement will be attributed to him.

And if winning was most important, he would not be leaving Clemson.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 99toLife on November 18, 2018, 12:42:13 pm
If Bryant values winning next year, why would he come here?

Exactly my thought, honestly of the other schools he's visited I would think Arkansas would be at the bottom of the list to attend next year.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogcards on November 18, 2018, 01:35:08 pm
If Bryant values winning next year, why would he come here?

He visited what... three weeks ago.  The Hogs have actually gotten worse since his visit.  He's not coming here to play for this guy.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on November 18, 2018, 01:46:10 pm
If Bryant values winning next year, why would he come here?

He could of stayed at Clemson, he was one injury away from being a playoff QB again. Something tells me winning isnít his point of emphasis
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on November 18, 2018, 02:28:50 pm
Nothing wrong with the system...This group sucks...there were 2 plays in the 1st half that would have been scores if we could catch and throw..missed fg...and the 2nd was worse.......almost forgot..the refs suck again..

I'm confused by those blaming CCM's "system."  We just got DRUMMED by a team that runs a VERY similar system on both offense, and defense.  RPO, but with a QB that can RUN....and a dictating defense, but they don't miss tackles and when they blitz, they actually get to the QB instead of just running into contact and QUITTING.  "Oh...it's not a free run to the QB...I'll just stop here then."   ::)

If by "system" people mean "effort and execution" then I agree.   ;D
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: MemphisBossHog on November 18, 2018, 08:12:54 pm
Wonder whatís going through his mind watching this dumpster fire?
hopefully its that no program on his list of 6 needs his services more than Ark does.

Isnt it true that Morris has not been able to put in all of his offense because the QBs cannot run it?  He would not have that problem with Bryant.

If Bryant comes here and we win just 6 games, he will be seen as a god and a miracle worker and the NFL will love his leadership skills based on what he did with lowly Arkansas.

If he goes to Auburn and has say......ONE bad game......those idiots will crucify him and want him to be benched.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Mike Irwin on November 18, 2018, 08:15:49 pm
He visited what... three weeks ago.  The Hogs have actually gotten worse since his visit.  He's not coming here to play for this guy.
Good to know. Thanks for passing that along. We're up to speed now. This thread can be cancelled.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: King Kong on November 18, 2018, 08:24:49 pm
Exactly my thought, honestly of the other schools he's visited I would think Arkansas would be at the bottom of the list to attend next year.


Haven't watched UNC have you?
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hawgman on November 18, 2018, 10:28:25 pm

This was only a game only in the sense that the Harlem Globetrotters playing the Washington Generals was a game.
Told my wife the same thing
But the generals have a better chance!!
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: 99toLife on November 19, 2018, 12:37:46 pm


Haven't watched UNC have you?

I have to admit, I have never watched any UNC games ever.. so I stand corrected..
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AirWarren on November 19, 2018, 12:39:49 pm
Good to know. Thanks for passing that along. We're up to speed now. This thread can be cancelled.

Agreed.

Ready for his decision so this fallacy/charade can be put to sleep.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: hogcards on November 19, 2018, 12:47:31 pm
Agreed.

Ready for his decision so this fallacy/charade can be put to sleep.

He's supposedly making an official announcement on 12-3-18.  Miami seems to think they've got him.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on November 19, 2018, 02:48:32 pm
Agreed.

Ready for his decision so this fallacy/charade can be put to sleep.

What in the hell is your deal?  For real.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AirWarren on November 19, 2018, 03:49:49 pm
What in the hell is your deal?  For real.

You mean my opinion on the matter? Canít have one or you just donít like it?

My opinion is he isnít coming. Period.

I donít know what else to tell you.

Iím not bashing anyone. Iím not being hateful to anyone. I just feel like some are setting themselves up for turmoil because he has better options.

My personal opinion. I suggest you block me if you donít want to read me.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: The Hogfather on November 19, 2018, 04:04:18 pm
You mean my opinion on the matter? Canít have one or you just donít like it?

My opinion is he isnít coming. Period.

I donít know what else to tell you.

Iím not bashing anyone. Iím not being hateful to anyone. I just feel like some are setting themselves up for turmoil because he has better options.

My personal opinion. I suggest you block me if you donít want to read me.

It isn't simply your opinion about whether or not he is coming here.  It is like a condescending, mean-spirited tone towards other people who don't share your opinion or even just question anything in one of your posts.  It is a wee bit crazy.

You seem to get mad and cry when others don't share your opinion or point out fallacies in your posts.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: rules on November 19, 2018, 06:29:11 pm
KB wants to win and win now. He is not coming to this dumpster fire - Guaranteed.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HogPharmer on November 19, 2018, 06:30:17 pm
If his mind was made up he wouldnít still be visiting places

Who knows how he will lol at this game. He could look at it as there were a lot of plays left out on the field he would have made. That Ty canít

I bet he would.... Thereís lots of cheerleaders out there after all....
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: TebowHater on November 19, 2018, 06:32:48 pm
KB wants to win and win now. He is not coming to this dumpster fire - Guaranteed.

k.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AirWarren on November 19, 2018, 07:59:33 pm
It isn't simply your opinion about whether or not he is coming here.  It is like a condescending, mean-spirited tone towards other people who don't share your opinion or even just question anything in one of your posts.  It is a wee bit crazy.

You seem to get mad and cry when others don't share your opinion or point out fallacies in your posts.


Mean spirited? Lol.

I have zero emotional investment toward you or this forum.

However, my opinion stands. KB will not be an Arkansas Razorback based on our roster deficiencies.

Like it. Lump it. Whatever. Not changing my mind.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: HawgnCorona on November 19, 2018, 08:06:13 pm
KB wants to win and win now. He is not coming to this dumpster fire - Guaranteed.

Good possibility he wont but you cant guarantee anything. You don't know. Since when did anybody in his camp tell U he was not coming, Stephen A Smith?





Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: wpstexan on November 19, 2018, 08:08:16 pm
Weíre getting Jarrett Stidham
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on November 19, 2018, 08:10:08 pm
Weíre getting Jarrett Stidham

Ewww
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: East Clintwood on November 19, 2018, 08:13:41 pm
KB wants to win and win now. He is not coming to this dumpster fire - Guaranteed.


No.  If he really wanted to win that badly, he would have stayed at Clemson.  None of the teams he's looking at are likely to win as many as Clemson will win.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on November 19, 2018, 08:14:56 pm
KB wants to win and win now. He is not coming to this dumpster fire - Guaranteed.
source? All he said was he wanted to develop.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: grayhawg on November 19, 2018, 08:24:09 pm
This may bad

.https://twitter.com/RivalsWoody/status/1064691237037449216?s=19

Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: checkraiser88 on November 19, 2018, 08:28:49 pm
This may bad

.https://twitter.com/RivalsWoody/status/1064691237037449216?s=19

I knew it, Auburn could get us at the end on this. They run a similar system
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: AirWarren on November 19, 2018, 08:29:23 pm
This may bad

.https://twitter.com/RivalsWoody/status/1064691237037449216?s=19

Beginning of the end for some peopleís hopes.
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 19, 2018, 10:01:37 pm
This may bad

.https://twitter.com/RivalsWoody/status/1064691237037449216?s=19



Crap, outbid yet again...
Title: Re: Re: 2018-19 College Football Transfers, Rumors, and Packed Bags
Post by: jbcarol on November 19, 2018, 10:18:59 pm
https://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Major-change-of-plans-for-Kelly-Bryant-Clemson-transfer-quarterback--125003409/Amp
Title: Re: Kelly Bryant Threads**Merged**
Post by: BroyledNutts on November 19, 2018, 11:07:04 pm
Gu$ spending that big signing bonus wi$ely ...
Title: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: ballz2thewall on November 20, 2018, 06:04:05 am
https://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Major-change-of-plans-for-Kelly-Bryant-Clemson-transfer-quarterback--125003409/
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: Karma on November 20, 2018, 06:06:13 am
Heís not coming here it appears.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: Bacons Rebellion on November 20, 2018, 06:57:35 am
He’s not coming here it appears.

Really looking like that.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: Hogmatic on November 20, 2018, 07:06:30 am
Our Oline and WRs have been way too visible lately and not in a good way.    If I were him I wouldn't have liked what I saw of Colton Jackson's crap, the other whiffs by the other Tackle and the WRs lazy play.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: ballz2thewall on November 20, 2018, 07:10:58 am
Our Oline and WRs have been way too visible lately and not in a good way.    If I were him I wouldn't have liked what I saw of Colton Jackson's crap, the other whiffs by the other Tackle and the WRs lazy play.

i wouldn't be surprised if that reality infuenced morris' demeanor during his presser after the game.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: go hogues on November 20, 2018, 07:30:36 am
Heís not coming here it appears.
He never was.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: fullfan on November 20, 2018, 07:31:27 am
Heís not coming here it appears.

Was he ever???  Like Devin White and Fulton or maybe DGB or Gruden?  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: Hogmatic on November 20, 2018, 07:49:17 am
i wouldn't be surprised if that reality infuenced morris' demeanor during his presser after the game.

Go back and watch the matador Oline performance against UNT when the back up QB's Noland and Jones played.   It appears they were trying to get the kids killed.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on November 20, 2018, 07:51:12 am
His decision was always going to be about what situation as a whole, set him up for the best, plug n play success. Nothing about our OL and WRs offered any comfort. He raved about the environment and people here during his visit but ultimately, this is a business decision. He never, as far as I've seen at least, raved about the potential of the supporting player cast here.

New relationships with coaches can be built between now and next season much easier than building OL depth and play making WRs. Time will tell if KB makes a business decision and if I'm advising him, I'd say your relationship with Morris is great but if you want to have the best NFL chances, go elsewhere.
Title: Re: auburn thinks it's getting bryant.....[247 link]
Post by: AirWarren on November 20, 2018, 08:06:36 am