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Title: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: #hammerdown on September 22, 2018, 11:48:07 am
Defense is probably not good enough to beat the elite teams but the offense at least gives you hope.

I know we have a long long way to go but when CCM’s offense is fully installed with his players I expect at least that level of success.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 11:50:45 am
They always have those long, lean, fast WR’s.  But yes, they look well coached and prepared like BP’s squads.  I’d kill to look like Mizzou.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 11:51:16 am
They always have those long, lean, fast WR’s.  But yes, they look well coached and prepared like BP’s squads.  I’d kill to look like Mizzou.

This is how you know you've reached the bottom
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 11:53:37 am
Defense is probably not good enough to beat the elite teams but the offense at least gives you hope.

I know we have a long long way to go but when CCM’s offense is fully installed with his players I expect at least that level of success.

Lock is a better qb than Mallett or Wilson.  Their offense is much more spread than Bobby’s was even with Dooley’s emphasis trying to run. Our offense in 2010 had a lot of I formation. 

Defensively Mizzou has been much more consistently competent than ours.  Very disruptive. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: golf2day on September 22, 2018, 11:53:51 am
This is how you know you've reached the bottom
That’s what I was thinking. Sad thing is he’s 100% correct.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 11:54:03 am
This is how you know you've reached the bottom

I get you don’t want to give Mizzou any credit, but they do pretty well considering their recruiting limitations.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 11:55:03 am
They always have those long, lean, fast WR’s.  But yes, they look well coached and prepared like BP’s squads.  I’d kill to look like Mizzou.

We actually had a number of slow starts and comebacks with Bobby. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 11:55:52 am
I get you don’t want to give Mizzou any credit, but they do pretty well considering their recruiting limitations.


I know, but they're still Mizzou (spit). Just like how we all love to hate on the Aggies and say "Aggie gonna Aggie." Doesn't change the fact that they're loaded with talent... But we still can't help but look down on them, regardless our recent pitfalls.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 11:56:02 am
We actually had a number of slow starts and comebacks with Bobby. 

And I suppose Mizzou hasn’t?
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 11:56:19 am
Lock is a better qb than Mallett or Wilson.  Their offense is much more spread than Bobby’s was even with Dooley’s emphasis trying to run. Our offense in 2010 had a lot of I formation. 

Defensively Mizzou has been much more consistently competent than ours.  Very disruptive. 

Bobby ran a pro system with a lot of spread concepts added. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 11:56:49 am
Hated that 3rd down low % play call by UGa.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 11:59:01 am
And I suppose Mizzou hasn’t?

You tell me.  I know we didn’t look well prepared in many games with slow starts, penalties and drops.  But Bobby was a fantastic in game coach often and made winning adjustments. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: #hammerdown on September 22, 2018, 11:59:30 am
Hated that 3rd down low % play call by UGa.

Chaney gonna Chaney.  Two fades when they have the best running backs in the league
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 12:00:33 pm

I know, but they're still Mizzou (spit). Just like how we all love to hate on the Aggies and say "Aggie gonna Aggie." Doesn't change the fact that they're loaded with talent... But we still can't help but look down on them, regardless our recent pitfalls.

I get it, and I don’t like them either, but as a fan of a program that’s been irrelevant for a few decades now, my trash talk has subsided.  Mizzou will beat us by 3 TD’s.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 12:04:05 pm
You tell me.  I know we didn’t look well prepared in many games with slow starts, penalties and drops.  But Bobby was a fantastic in game coach often and made winning adjustments. 

So a coach who adjusted.  What a novel idea.  His teams were as well or better coached than any Hog coach since Holtz.  We love to pick him to pieces, though.  Maybe CM will surpass BP.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 12:06:09 pm
I get it, and I don’t like them either, but as a fan of a program that’s been irrelevant for a few decades now, my trash talk has subsided.  Mizzou will beat us by 3 TD’s.

Yeah I certainly don't trash talk any program now.... I mean, we have a worse record than the Cleveland Browns for pete's sake (though, they are a much improved team this year)
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 12:08:52 pm
Yeah I certainly don't trash talk any program now.... I mean, we have a worse record than the Cleveland Browns for pete's sake (though, they are a much improved team this year)

Im a Cleveland fan now.  I really hope they start to finally turn it around. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 12:11:57 pm
Chaney gonna Chaney.  Two fades when they have the best running backs in the league

His play calling is helping the Mizzou defense and keeping them in it. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: 26.2Hog on September 22, 2018, 12:14:51 pm
Yeah I certainly don't trash talk any program now.... I mean, we have a worse record than the Cleveland Browns for pete's sake (though, they are a much improved team this year)

So can we work a deal with Bud Light to lock up a bunch of beer in bar fridges throughout the state and give it away when if we finally win another game?

Probably not with Bud Light.  Maybe Natty Light.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 12:18:17 pm
Blocked punt with chin.  Depth and talent shows up on STs.  We have so far to go.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 12:18:33 pm
So can we work a deal with Bud Light to lock up a bunch of beer in bar fridges throughout the state and give it away when if we finally win another game?

Probably not with Bud Light.  Maybe Natty Light.

It's really a brilliant marketing scheme they did with Cleveland. It's free advertising because they talk about it during every game. So if they don't win, then that's just another game the announcers will talk about it and show pictures of it. If they do win (which they did), they'll show viral videos of it all over the place and I assumed they would even show them getting unlocked on SportsCenter (don't know if they did or not).
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: 99toLife on September 22, 2018, 12:18:45 pm
One thing is Mizzou is entertaning win or lose.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 12:19:00 pm
Im a Cleveland fan now.  I really hope they start to finally turn it around.

My wife is from Cleveland so I have to kinda root for them. I like their Defense. Myles Garrett is a beast. And, regardless how you feel about Baker Mayfield, he is a winner. He's got the swag that Johnny Football had, but he's also not a complete idiot like JM was. He's focused and actually wants to be successful. Plus, with Nick Chubb in the backfield, they've got some good tools to really start building a solid team that may actually be able to compete in the near future.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 12:21:32 pm
I hope Mizzou beats Georgia. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Jackrabbit Hog on September 22, 2018, 12:24:03 pm
Meanwhile, the Scott Frost nightmare continues.  39-0 Michigan before halftime and Michigan has the ball.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 12:26:02 pm
My wife is from Cleveland so I have to kinda root for them.

And they’re in the Steelers’ division.  I loath the Steelers.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 12:27:06 pm
Sorry to change just briefly change the subject, but Nebraska...
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 12:27:45 pm
And they’re in the Steelers’ division.  I loath the Steelers.

Tying the Steelers in the first game of the season is a moral victory for the Browns. That was also their best start to a season since 2004....
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 12:29:14 pm
Meanwhile, the Scott Frost nightmare continues.  39-0 Michigan before halftime and Michigan has the ball.

I wonder if the Nebraska faithful are as ready to throw Frost off a cliff as some of ours are with CCM?
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 12:31:05 pm
Steelers declining and about to transition to new era.   So will Ravens.  Bengals treading water.  Opportunity there for Browns. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 12:31:48 pm
Fumble. Curles crew smh. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: bulldog04 on September 22, 2018, 12:35:47 pm
Why didn't Chaney run it in from the 5 after the INT?  He threw two 50-50 balls.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 12:38:22 pm
Should have kicked FG.  Chaney is so stupid.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: #hammerdown on September 22, 2018, 12:53:10 pm
I wonder if the Nebraska faithful are as ready to throw Frost off a cliff as some of ours are with CCM?

Absolutely, they are.  And both are wrong.  Very similar situations.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: #hammerdown on September 22, 2018, 12:58:02 pm
Chaney gonna Chaney again.  8 lineman super heavy package and get stuffed because speed penetration.  Man, just do what you do well instead of all this sandlot crap.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 12:58:27 pm
Absolutely, they are.  And both are wrong.  Very similar situations.

I don't disagree. Everyone hates on CCM but gives Frost a break because he doesn't have his players. Both need the right players in their systems to win.


"That's what you get when you hire a 13-22 (or whatever it was) record." Well Nebraska is getting the same thing with a coach that went 13-0.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:08:22 pm
Arkansas will be back, because of prior circumstances it had to bottom out.  I hope it already has but it may not.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:18:24 pm
How is Curles still an official?
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:20:52 pm
Could Kentucky be Georgia's main competition in the East? I will say Georgia does not look bullet proof.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:23:48 pm
Dropped football right at goalline. Dawgs are dumb.  He is in but barely. 

Kirby has to start suspending players for this or something. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: PonderinHog on September 22, 2018, 01:27:31 pm
Dropped football right at goalline. Dawgs are dumb.  He is in but barely. 

Kirby has to start suspending players for this or something.
Fine them!
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:27:53 pm
Dropped football right at goalline. Dawgs are dumb.  He is in but barely. 

Kirby has to start suspending players for this or something. 
But they do have athletic ability. Georgia is very lucky today.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:28:44 pm
Nice 2pt play Chaney. 

I wouldn’t let Holloman on the field again today and would have to think about next week. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:30:29 pm
But they do have athletic ability. Georgia is very lucky today.

Reminiscent of great Miami, Fl and FSU teams. Ultra talented and athletic but dumb and undisciplined. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:32:09 pm
Reminiscent of great Miami, Fl and FSU teams. Ultra talented and athletic but dumb and undisciplined. 
10 national championships among them.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: #hammerdown on September 22, 2018, 01:32:59 pm
The ref watching the play did not call a touchdown for Georgia.  This game is a Curles screw job if I have ever seen one and being a Razorback fan I have seen a few. 

Holy crap if this was the Razorbacks we would all be going 🦇 💩 😝
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:33:23 pm
10 national championships among them.

Yep. Good enough to overcome it. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: PonderinHog on September 22, 2018, 01:33:42 pm
Reminiscent of great Miami, Fl and FSU teams. Ultra talented and athletic but dumb and undisciplined.
Like that Georgia player said, "I didn't go to college to get no education."
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 01:33:50 pm
The ref watching the play did not call a touchdown for Georgia.  This game is a Curles screw job if I have ever seen one and being a Razorback fan I have seen a few. 

Holy crap if this was the Razorbacks we would all be going 🦇 💩 😝

Have to protect the big dogs of the conference.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 01:35:51 pm
What's the score now, 33-14? You're right that does remind me of the BP days when we played some of the top competition.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:35:56 pm
I’ve thought the officiating has been poor both ways today.  Curles isn’t intentionally screwing Mizzou.  Just not an official who should still be in charge of an SEC crew. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 01:37:24 pm
What's the score now, 33-14? You're right that does remind me of the BP days when we played some of the top competition.

Oh man am I gonna get some hate mail on this nugget of truth.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:38:14 pm
Ugly game.  Forward pass.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:38:36 pm
Remember the Cotton Bowl when Miami used and abused Texas?  Miami had more yards in penalties than Texas had yards.  Most of them unsportsmanlike conduct and personal fouls.  The announcer called it child abuse.  I had to laugh.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:39:29 pm
Oh man am I gonna get some hate mail on this nugget of truth.
Yep, you stepped in it.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:39:50 pm
Remember the Cotton Bowl when Miami used and abused Texas?  Miami had more yards in penalties than Texas had yards.  Most of them unsportsmanlike conduct and personal fouls.  The announcer called it child abuse.  I had to laugh.

I enjoyed that game a lot.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 01:40:20 pm
Oh man am I gonna get some hate mail on this nugget of truth.

LOL.  So you then quote yourself in hopes it actually happens.  Nicely played.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 01:41:01 pm
I enjoyed that game a lot.

Like it was yesterday.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: PonderinHog on September 22, 2018, 01:41:48 pm
Those are some small windows Lock is throwing into.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:42:25 pm
LOL.  So you then quote yourself in hopes it actually happens.  Nicely played.
Sort of troll-like, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: PonderinHog on September 22, 2018, 01:43:08 pm
Sort of troll-like, wouldn't you say?
Hopefully...
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:44:34 pm
Hopefully...
Mizzou scores a touchdown.  Still 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:45:17 pm
And a two-point conversion.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: hoglady on September 22, 2018, 01:45:50 pm
What's the score now, 33-14? You're right that does remind me of the BP days when we played some of the top competition.

Football was fun when Petrino was here - went into each game thinking we could win.

Here we sit today wondering whether Auburn is going to hang 50 or 70 on us / and wondering whether we can score at all. Where bettors think Auburn -29.5 is a fantastic bet. Give me back those Petrino years anyday.

Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 01:46:34 pm
LOL.  So you then quote yourself in hopes it actually happens.  Nicely played.

Don't know what you're talking about...
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: PonderinHog on September 22, 2018, 01:46:40 pm
Mizzou scores a touchdown.  Still 3rd quarter.
They need a stop or a turnover.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:47:57 pm
But for Marc Curles, Mizzou would be ahead.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:49:31 pm
Kent State giving Ole Miss all they want.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 01:49:58 pm
Sort of troll-like, wouldn't you say?

Yeah that's how it'd put it lol but also pretty accurate.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:50:25 pm
We’ll see if Chaney Ball with superior talent can close this out.   
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 01:50:27 pm
Football was fun when Petrino was here - went into each game thinking we could win.

Here we sit today wondering whether Auburn is going to hang 50 or 70 on us / and wondering whether we can score at all. Where bettors think Auburn -29.5 is a fantastic bet. Give me back those Petrino years

Like practically every HC in the nation, BP couldn’t beat Bama.  He sucks.  Glad he’s gone. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 01:52:31 pm
Football was fun when Petrino was here - went into each game thinking we could win.

And we did. A lot. Until we played the ones that really mattered. A lot like what he's done since being back at Louisville, with a Heisman QB no less.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:54:50 pm
Georgia is one turnover away from being on upset alert.  By the way, I like Barry Odom, think he is a good coach.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:55:31 pm
So much for that.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:55:47 pm
Chaney Ball when working right. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: PonderinHog on September 22, 2018, 01:56:01 pm
And the receiver crosses the goal line with the ball in hand!
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 01:56:15 pm
Georgia is one turnover away from being on upset alert.  By the way, I like Barry Odom, think he is a good coach.

He does seem to be a pretty good coach.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:56:56 pm
Chaney Ball when working right. 
It works when you are fully loaded.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: hoglady on September 22, 2018, 01:57:29 pm
And we did. A lot. Until we played the ones that really mattered. A lot like what he's done since being back at Louisville, with a Heisman QB no less.

They all matter and when you lose most of them - then that win you get against that "Sisters of the Poor" team matters even more.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:57:53 pm
Want to see Odom as a head coach post-Lock. But his defenses for how Mizzou recruits are well coached. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 01:58:55 pm
It works when you are fully loaded.

That was a good call and execution.   
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 01:59:38 pm
His defense held up in the first half, not in the second.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 02:00:33 pm
Georgia will lose a conference game.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 02:02:05 pm
They all matter and when you lose most of them - then that win you get against that "Sisters of the Poor" team matters even more.

I get what you're saying and yeah all does matter but when more than likely your ceiling is 3rd best in the conference it stops being fun and more hollow to just compete for 3rd and 4th best with no real chance of being in the NC picture. Of course flirting with double digit wins is worlds better than now but, to me, it's hollow if you're not ever truly in the NC hunt.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 02:02:43 pm
I get what you're saying and yeah all does matter but when more than likely your ceiling is 3rd best in the conference it stops being fun and more hollow to just compete for 3rd and 4th best with no real chance of being in the NC picture. Of course flirting with double digit wins is worlds better than now but, to me, it's hollow if you're not ever truly in the NC hunt.
I want hollow.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 02:02:47 pm
Georgia will lose a conference game.

They do have to go to LSU and play AU.

 I thought this was their possible upset loss heading into the season. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 02:04:23 pm
I get what you're saying and yeah all does matter but when more than likely your ceiling is 3rd best in the conference it stops being fun and more hollow to just compete for 3rd and 4th best with no real chance of being in the NC picture. Of course flirting with double digit wins is worlds better than now but, to me, it's hollow if you're not ever truly in the NC hunt.

Who’s going to finally get us into the NC hunt?
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 02:09:06 pm
Who’s going to finally get us into the NC hunt?

Jesus Christ. Other than God I'm not sure but that's the ultimate goal. At least in my mind. I'm not satisfied with just being ok or even pretty good. It's we are constantly and consistently moving toward one of the best in the nation or we aren't getting it done. Of course there is an amazingly depressing amount of steps ahead of us to get from here to there but like I said that's the goal and my only standard.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: hoglady on September 22, 2018, 02:09:16 pm
I get what you're saying and yeah all does matter but when more than likely your ceiling is 3rd best in the conference it stops being fun and more hollow to just compete for 3rd and 4th best with no real chance of being in the NC picture. Of course flirting with double digit wins is worlds better than now but, to me, it's hollow if you're not ever truly in the NC hunt.

Well we finished #5 in the country with Petrino.

We are not a respectable Power 5 program right now. If you let each SEC coach choose their homecoming school to play 13 out of 13 would chose Arkansas. We are so far at the bottom - no one else is remotely close to us in the east or the west.

But hey, let's talk about how hollow Petrino's time here was.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 02:10:01 pm
I want hollow.

I’ve always found it odd that BP was held to such a high standard.  Dude, had plenty of faults and certainly wasn’t a perfect coach, but geez.  The only way we know how to support or defend our HC is to disparage a former HC.  Because we sure don’t want to make comparisons. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Ham Bones Jones on September 22, 2018, 02:11:07 pm
Go Hogs.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 02:12:53 pm
Well we finished #5 in the country with Petrino.

We are not a respectable Power 5 program right now. If you let each SEC coach choose their homecoming school to play 13 out of 13 would chose Arkansas. We so far at the bottom - no one else is remotely close to us in the east or the west.

But hey, let's talk about how hollow Petrino's time here was.

and in that #5 finish how did that Bama game turn out? And LSU was even worse if I remember correctly, which I do. So like I said, 3rd best in the conference as a ceiling. Pretty hollow to me. Sorry if you wanna remember it better than it realistically was but it was what it was.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: ceegar on September 22, 2018, 02:13:41 pm
What's the score now, 33-14? You're right that does remind me of the BP days when we played some of the top competition.
I was thinking the same thing.  Petrino getting it handed to him today by Virginia.  His offense without a decent QB has scored 3 so far into the 4th quarter.  he's not the genius people think he is.  You still have to have players
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 02:16:00 pm
Well we finished #5 in the country with Petrino.

We are not a respectable Power 5 program right now. If you let each SEC coach choose their homecoming school to play 13 out of 13 would chose Arkansas. We are so far at the bottom - no one else is remotely close to us in the east or the west.

But hey, let's talk about how hollow Petrino's time here was.


Agree, but that was very likely an exception.  I loved the top 5 finish like everyone else, but I knew it wasn’t sustainable.  Forget about what one thinks about BP’s coaching abilities, it wasn’t sustainable due to talent.  It never will be as long as the SEC is the way it is today.  We are an ocean apart in talent from multiple SECW programs.  BP would have kept us very respectable IMO, but that’s it.  And that’s about our ceiling in the SEC.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: hoglady on September 22, 2018, 02:16:42 pm
and in that #5 finish how did that Bama game turn out? And LSU was even worse if I remember correctly, which I do. So like I said, 3rd best in the conference as a ceiling. Pretty hollow to me. Sorry if you wanna remember it better than it realistically was but it was what it was.

Yep - the #1 and #2 teams in the country.
I'm the realist. I can still enjoy and appreciate seasons like Petrino had here.

Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 02:17:14 pm
So officials didn’t have to protect Fromm on 2nd down from a cheap shot - typical of Mizzou d linemen.  But Lock got touched with one hand in the chest but because it was after a pass they got a penalty. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 02:17:31 pm
I’ve always found it odd that BP was held to such a high standard.  Dude, had plenty of faults and certainly wasn’t a perfect coach, but geez.  The only way we know how to support or defend our HC is to disparage a former HC.  Because we sure don’t want to make comparisons.

It's not meant to be disparaging, it's what happened. If the true history of an event doesn't measure up to how we wanted it or remember it being that doesn't make the truth disparaging.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Gonzo on September 22, 2018, 02:17:53 pm
I’ve always found it odd that BP was held to such a high standard.  Dude, had plenty of faults and certainly wasn’t a perfect coach, but geez.  The only way we know how to support or defend our HC is to disparage a former HC.  Because we sure don’t want to make comparisons. 

Agreed. Dude had plenty of faults, but compared to anyone else the Hogs have had since the 80s, on field performance wasn't one of them. It would be awesome to believe anything similar is on the horizon.


Go Hogs!
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 02:19:20 pm
Yep - the #1 and #2 teams in the country.
I'm the realist. I can still enjoy and appreciate seasons like Petrino had here.

And those 2 beat us like we were a high school team so we were NEVER even close to being as good as them, that year anyway. That's the reality.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 02:20:54 pm
It's not meant to be disparaging, it's what happened. If the true history of an event doesn't measure up to how we wanted it or remember it being that doesn't make the truth disparaging.

I agree it’s truth, but I won’t applogize that I inferred that your reason for stating this truth was to minimize whatever success BP did achieve.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: hoglady on September 22, 2018, 02:21:34 pm
And those 2 beat us like we were a high school team so we were NEVER even close to being as good as them, that year anyway. That's the reality.

Better getting drummed by the #1and #2 teams in the country than getting drummed by North Texas.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: ThisTeetsTaken on September 22, 2018, 02:24:04 pm
Better getting drummed by the #1and #2 teams in the country than getting drummed by North Texas.
This
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 02:24:31 pm
Agree, but that was very likely an exception.  I loved the top 5 finish like everyone else, but I knew it wasn’t sustainable.  Forget about what one thinks about BP’s coaching abilities, it wasn’t sustainable due to talent.  It never will be as long as the SEC is the way it is today.  We are an ocean apart in talent from multiple SECW programs.  BP would have kept us very respectable IMO, but that’s it.  And that’s about our ceiling in the SEC.

Realistic view of what could have been vs the Legend of Bobby we often get here.  2012, 13 and 14 wouldn’t have seen the bottom fall out. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 02:25:36 pm
Mizzou's last gasp.  Wish they would have won.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: ThisTeetsTaken on September 22, 2018, 02:29:01 pm
Agree, but that was very likely an exception.  I loved the top 5 finish like everyone else, but I knew it wasn’t sustainable.  Forget about what one thinks about BP’s coaching abilities, it wasn’t sustainable due to talent.  It never will be as long as the SEC is the way it is today.  We are an ocean apart in talent from multiple SECW programs.  BP would have kept us very respectable IMO, but that’s it.  And that’s about our ceiling in the SEC.
Petrino wouldn’t have had us in a BCS game every year but we would be in the top 25 every year IMO.  He was proving that before the wreck.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: PonderinHog on September 22, 2018, 02:32:34 pm
Who wants cheese with their whine?
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 02:33:38 pm
Look forward to the Georgia-Kentucky game.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 22, 2018, 02:34:48 pm
Curles crew is awful for SEC football. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogPharmer on September 22, 2018, 02:38:15 pm
How is Curles still an official?

He’s officially crap
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 02:40:20 pm
Say this for Mizzou they kept coming, did not quit.  We haven't seen much of that the last several years.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: 99toLife on September 22, 2018, 02:47:01 pm
Say this for Mizzou they kept coming, did not quit.  We haven't seen much of that the last several years.

Exactly, we need some of that no quit.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 02:59:34 pm
I agree it’s truth, but I won’t applogize that I inferred that your reason for stating this truth was to minimize whatever success BP did achieve.

No one is asking for an apology, why would I want you to apologize for simply stating your opinion? I will however tell you that you are wrong. It was never my intent to minimize anything that Bobby Petrino did here, I mean really who could complain about 10 and 11 win season? I just get tired of hearing people reinvent history to make Bobby Petrino some kind of coaching Elite, he's a very good offensive coach and play caller but between here and Louisville he has shown he can't beat the top dogs. Especially when breaking into that top tier is on the line.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 03:12:31 pm
Agree, but that was very likely an exception.  I loved the top 5 finish like everyone else, but I knew it wasn’t sustainable.  Forget about what one thinks about BP’s coaching abilities, it wasn’t sustainable due to talent.  It never will be as long as the SEC is the way it is today.  We are an ocean apart in talent from multiple SECW programs.  BP would have kept us very respectable IMO, but that’s it.  And that’s about our ceiling in the SEC.

I was thinking the same thing.  Petrino getting it handed to him today by Virginia.  His offense without a decent QB has scored 3 so far into the 4th quarter.  he's not the genius people think he is.  You still have to have players

Don't agree that that is our permanent ceiling but as for the rest, these two get it.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Gonzo on September 22, 2018, 03:13:01 pm
I mean really who could complain about 10 and 11 win season


Uh, you, several times, within this very thread. To borrow an overused phrase from the last administration, it's not very uncommon around here.



Go Hogs!
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Hopeful Hog on September 22, 2018, 03:21:00 pm

Uh, you, several times, within this very thread. To borrow an overused phrase from the last administration, it's not very uncommon around here.



Go Hogs!







Go Hogs!









Uh, didn't, uh, complain once, uh, about, uh, the 10 or 11 wins he put up but, uh, whatever you think, uh, superfan.








Go Hogs!
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 03:31:52 pm






Go Hogs!









Uh, didn't, uh, complain once, uh, about, uh, the 10 or 11 wins he put up but, uh, whatever you think, uh, superfan.








Go Hogs!
You don't wear your opinions well.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Gonzo on September 22, 2018, 04:22:29 pm
You don't wear your opinions well.



Lol. So true, it's like some folks have to really try to be so obtuse.



Go Hogs!

Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 04:27:44 pm


Lol. So true, it's like some folks have to really try to be so obtuse.



Go Hogs!


Go Hogs.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: 3kgthog on September 22, 2018, 04:30:47 pm
What's the score now, 33-14? You're right that does remind me of the BP days when we played some of the top competition.

The only teams that legitimately whooped BP’s two best teams were LSU and Bama squads that had arguably the two best defenses seen in the last 25 years. EVERYONE got destroyed by those two teams.

But if you’d rather bash that coach and take what we’ve got now, go for it.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: HogBreath on September 22, 2018, 04:38:18 pm
I get what you're saying and yeah all does matter but when more than likely your ceiling is 3rd best in the conference it stops being fun and more hollow to just compete for 3rd and 4th best with no real chance of being in the NC picture. Of course flirting with double digit wins is worlds better than now but, to me, it's hollow if you're not ever truly in the NC hunt.
You're not really catching on to this, it would appear.

Hollow.  Lol.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: mizzouman on September 22, 2018, 04:52:34 pm
Lost by 14. Gave up a fumble recovery and a block punt for TD’s. That’s the way it goes sometimes.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: JackJohnson on September 22, 2018, 04:55:54 pm
Will this Mizzou team go 6-2 in the SEC and make a big time bowl and/or finish top 5 in the country. ?If so then yea they will remind me of the CBP teams...
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 04:56:58 pm
No one is asking for an apology, why would I want you to apologize for simply stating your opinion? I will however tell you that you are wrong. It was never my intent to minimize anything that Bobby Petrino did here, I mean really who could complain about 10 and 11 win season? I just get tired of hearing people reinvent history to make Bobby Petrino some kind of coaching Elite, he's a very good offensive coach and play caller but between here and Louisville he has shown he can't beat the top dogs. Especially when breaking into that top tier is on the line.

Fair enough.  I wouldn't characterize him as elite by national standards, be he is absolutely elite by Razorback standards. 
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 04:59:23 pm
Lost by 14. Gave up a fumble recovery and a block punt for TD’s. That’s the way it goes sometimes.

That fumble recover for a TD early in the game was typical Marc Curles.  The TE was stopped by 2 defenders, then pushed back 2 yards, then ball is striped.  Should have been blown dead, no fumble.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: InHognito on September 22, 2018, 04:59:45 pm
Meanwhile, the Scott Frost nightmare continues.  39-0 Michigan before halftime and Michigan has the ball.

Say what you will but Frost is a good coach. Id switch him for Morris this minute.

That said, if he is that good and is struggling that much, maybe there is hope of us yet.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 22, 2018, 05:02:28 pm
Say what you will but Frost is a good coach. Id switch him for Morris this minute.

That said, if he is that good and is struggling that much, maybe there is hope of us yet.

Frost will get it turned around.  And he'll get to do it in one of the most cherry divisions in college football.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: rtr on September 22, 2018, 05:10:57 pm
Lost by 14. Gave up a fumble recovery and a block punt for TD’s. That’s the way it goes sometimes.
You have a good football team and a fine coach.
Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: mizzouman on September 22, 2018, 06:39:25 pm
Another call that didn’t go our way. GA WR clearly dropped the ball prior to going into the end zone. But, again part of the game that you must over come.

 https://www.rockmnation.com/2018/9/22/17891172/missouri-football-georgia-controversial-plays-loss

Title: Re: This Missouri team reminds me of Petrino’s teams
Post by: hawgball40 on September 22, 2018, 07:27:18 pm
And we did. A lot. Until we played the ones that really mattered. A lot like what he's done since being back at Louisville, with a Heisman QB no less.
re: losing the games that really mattered - we were at a huge talent disadvantage in every game we lost. we had bama beat in 2010 and ran out of gas in the 4th quarter after manhandling them for 3 quarters. 2011, we came out and punched bama and lsu in the mouth and then got blown out. 2012-2016, if bobby was here, we would have challenged bama. all those players he left behind in those last two classes alone turned out to be very special players for us, not to mention all the big classes he would have inevitably signed. his recruiting was getting better, and he was actually starting to be able to poach the scraps from bama and lsu, which gave us some good players like flowers and philon.
re: louisville - a 3 star heisman qb, on a roster comprised of mostly 3 star recruits.