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Title: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: RAZORBACKER60 on October 16, 2019, 10:21:08 am
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that's OK.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let's be patient and help the effort not hurt it. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 16, 2019, 10:22:31 am
Thanks Ms. Morris.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawginj on October 16, 2019, 10:22:45 am
He's gone get used to it. If he wanted to stay here should have spent more time doing his job.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Dark Helmet Hog on October 16, 2019, 10:28:39 am
worst vs worse

Grammar skills definitely rank low with some. Point not made.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hogsmo Kramer on October 16, 2019, 10:31:54 am
5 years, yeah that’s a great idea..... :D

Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: farmhawg on October 16, 2019, 10:32:11 am
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it. 
If he was learning, I’m not convinced that he is so he needs to be fired today.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: jkwhite1007 on October 16, 2019, 10:34:23 am
Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
« Reply #1 on: Today at 10:22:31 am »

Thanks Ms. Morris.

Too funny! :)
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on October 16, 2019, 10:38:42 am
Well I guess the "fans" are just trying to mirror CM's coaching record.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on October 16, 2019, 10:39:55 am
worst vs worse

Grammar skills definitely rank low with some. Point not made.
Don't forget worsest
As in the is the worsest football season ever!
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Razorback de Nosferatu on October 16, 2019, 10:40:42 am
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it.

Five coaches since 2007. Hmm. Well, one was an interim. So what's your point? Is that supposed to be an absurd or unique number?

Nutt was here for nearly a decade.
Petrino was here for four years and might've at least doubled that if not for the lying about hiring his mistress thing.
Bielema got five years, and now we have Morris.

Nothing about that is unusual in this climate. There were no catastrophic long-term recruiting issues. No coach listed there--except the current one, of course--needed more than a year or so to get enough roots planted to at least be competitive.

And I'm about tired of fans being blamed for running off recruits or setting the program back. We have a passionate fan base. That's a GOOD THING, and it goes both ways. If the results are historically crappy, fans will complain. To all involved, deal with it. If you can't handle a passionate and somewhat crazy fan base, go associate yourself with Lyon or Harding and stay far away from the SEC.

Frankly, Morris need not worry about fans scaring off recruits. He's doing a fine job of that himself.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: jrulz83 on October 16, 2019, 10:40:58 am
Worse vs worst:

“They might be used wrongly if you don’t know what they mean.”

https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-worse-and-vs-worst/

Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 16, 2019, 10:41:36 am
actually Georgia Bulldog fans are the worserest of the worsers
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Seebs on October 16, 2019, 10:41:39 am
This thread is the worser
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: code red on October 16, 2019, 10:42:02 am
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it. 
NEVER EVER NOT ONCE BEAT A POWER 5 TEAM AS A HC......EVER.  I don't blame Chad, he is just not good.  I blame whoever thought this was a good idea.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 16, 2019, 10:43:08 am
Don't forget worsest
As in the is the worsest football season ever!

I would consider making season plural.............
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: zebradynasty on October 16, 2019, 10:46:34 am
There would probably be more patience IF the team/program looked like it was improving. I'll admit that expecting a bowl in year two was ambitious but not out the question given the schedule. I do agree all the coaches we've been through the last decade + has made it difficult to establish a winning culture but you don't pay a coach $3.7/year and he need on the job training!
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: ComeonHogs!!! on October 16, 2019, 10:48:26 am
 Its the basic, SET the edge on def, control your gaps, make adj at half. do u truly see any of that happening? two weeks to get rdy for a RUNNING QB/WR and he runs for 196 yards! really? Are our players getting BETTER? Sorry i am not seeing improvement. I mean what are we hanging our hat on? i have no clue.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: SemperFi on October 16, 2019, 10:49:28 am
The Mods must be leaving this one alone for the sheer entertainment value it brings.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Razorback de Nosferatu on October 16, 2019, 10:53:03 am
There would probably be more patience IF the team/program looked like it was improving. I'll admit that expecting a bowl in year two was ambitious but not out the question given the schedule. I do agree all the coaches we've been through the last decade + has made it difficult to establish a winning culture but you don't pay a coach $3.7/year and he need on the job training!

Four or five wins with no embarrassing OOC losses was all this guy needed to guarantee himself plenty of building time.

Looking like he can't even manage that. Assuming things don't radically change, 2019 is looking very similar to 2018: two or three wins, an embarrassing OOC loss, and a bunch of QB drama because apparently neither Chad nor his grad assistant OC are capable of developing a QB.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: The NewEra on October 16, 2019, 10:54:09 am
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it.

Look, I've been in your shoes and I'm not certain that firing Chad is the way to go, but anyone who thinks what we've seen to date is in any shape form or fashion acceptable is not watching the same program I am.  At the very least several assistant coaches need to be replaced.  And Morris should be on a short leash going forward.

We are seeing the beginning of what I'm afraid will be hemorrhaging on the recruiting side of the equation, so that's a non argument at this point.

I can certainly tell you that the coaching we've seen on all levels to date has been terrible and without a plan to do a 180 turn on that we are only marking time.

We will see what HY thinks, but the performance has been bad enough that you can't expect fans not to voice their frustrations.  Those who want a head coach change may well be right.  If others read this on the message boards then so be it.  Should they be shielded from the true feelings of some of the fan base?
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: jkwhite1007 on October 16, 2019, 10:55:58 am
Its the basic, SET the edge on def, control your gaps, make adj at half. do u truly see any of that happening? two weeks to get rdy for a RUNNING QB/WR and he runs for 196 yards! really? Are our players getting BETTER? Sorry i am not seeing improvement. I mean what are we hanging our hat on? i have no clue.

How about the commentators drawing on the screen, showing the holes in the defense? "This is where they should run too." ...and they did. Over and over again.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hogfan1660 on October 16, 2019, 10:57:03 am
worst vs worse

Grammar skills definitely rank low with some. Point not made.

Hard to take anyone serious when you have to translate the very first line of the post...
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: hawg IQ on October 16, 2019, 11:02:55 am


The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it.
are you for real ? Have you not watch our team play these last 2 years. Have you not seen bone head decisions time after time. The clueless looks in post game comments from our coaches. Have you not heard tv commentators talk about our coaches with wonderment.

The reason we’ve had different coaches since 2007 is dumb a$$ ADs.  I do agree recruiting will suffer, but then again it already has 5 other times- right ! Morris is not the answer. 5 years with this guy just means a 10-50 record and no bowl games.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: LRHawg on October 16, 2019, 11:03:04 am
Jordan Rodgers Saturday night basically laid out a very simple game plan to destruct our defense. It's really bad when announcers are pointing out how flawed your schemes are. Chavis has got to go.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Pork Twain on October 16, 2019, 11:18:52 am
Worst...
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RagingHawgOn on October 16, 2019, 11:22:42 am
Jordan Rodgers Saturday night basically laid out a very simple game plan to destruct our defense. It's really bad when announcers are pointing out how flawed your schemes are. Chavis has got to go.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. And, maybe add another name or two.

But, I think all of this wailing and gnashing of teeth is misplaced energy; I may be wrong but I firmly believe he gets next year to right the ship.  And, I am good with that. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: SemperFi on October 16, 2019, 11:29:20 am
Chavis is the worst DC ever!

I don't think that things could get any worse than they currently are.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hogvayne on October 16, 2019, 11:29:49 am
OP displaying their posting prowness.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: woodrow hog call on October 16, 2019, 11:32:42 am
This thread immediately made me think of this, if you haven't seen this guy you need to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtR9-RVxD4

Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawgphat on October 16, 2019, 11:33:22 am
Liverwurst is the worst;  liver & onions runs a close second.      :D
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: woodrow hog call on October 16, 2019, 11:36:05 am
Liverwurst is the worst;  liver & onions runs a close second.      :D


Liver and onions ? You serious Clark ? Man I don't know if we can be friends anymore after that,
 I can agree with Liverwurst, I mean heck it says how bad it is in the name of it for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawgphat on October 16, 2019, 11:39:02 am

Liver and onions ? You serious Clark ? Man I don't know if we can be friends anymore after that,
 I can agree with Liverwurst, I mean heck it says how bad it is in the name of it for crying out loud.

Well, - - - - perhaps that's not the WURST mistake of my life.      :-[
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Dark Helmet Hog on October 16, 2019, 11:42:14 am
Sorry for ragging on the grammar. That's normally not like me. I'm a worser human being for it.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: nesjunk on October 16, 2019, 11:48:56 am
While I understand the sentiments of the OP, we just waited 8 years for someone to turn around the basketball program.  So, I think we did our part for the "be patient" crowd.  Please tell me how that worked out for us.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 16, 2019, 11:49:42 am
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it. 

All wrong.....

1.  Morris should NOT be learning on the job...PERIOD!!!!!  END OF DISCUSSION!!
2.  Incompetence should not be rewarded by blind loyalty...
3.  Morris will not have another good recruiting year because, kids won't come to such a losing program.  That "hammer down" stuff works after the first year only if he can't back it up....and he hasn't.  Losers don't attract quality recruits......

Bottom line:  Morris is way over his head.  He doesn't know how to effectively use the talent he has on the field to win games and he fails in most every aspect of being an SEC caliber coach.   I see no indication that he can turn this program around.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 16, 2019, 11:52:25 am
actually Georgia Bulldog fans are the worserest of the worsers

Bama fans also are right there with Uga fans as having a worserednestility of the worserings to be of the upmost worserednent.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: runninrazorback on October 16, 2019, 11:54:06 am
Jordan Rodgers Saturday night basically laid out a very simple game plan to destruct our defense. It's really bad when announcers are pointing out how flawed your schemes are. Chavis has got to go.
and he's a big Schmuck...
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: dayofthehawg1 on October 16, 2019, 11:54:07 am
Send the OP some tissue.  I think he (she,it, etc) might just need some.   Its fixing to get a lot uglier.  Auburn?  Bama?  LSU?  You might want to close your eyes for this one.  Morris = Crowe.  Other than I believe that Jack was a better HC.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hogcore on October 16, 2019, 11:54:42 am
We may never be on the level of the Alabama, LSU, or the Florida's of the college football world. We should at least win a few against Ole Miss, Kentucky, and San Jose State. We deserve a coach who can actually coach!

A lot of us are tired of pissing 10 thousand dollars a season away to win 2 games a year, ZERO conference games at that.

It goes way beyond this season, last season, for nearly a decade of piss poor coaching.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 16, 2019, 12:01:11 pm
We may never be on the level of the Alabama, LSU, or the Florida's of the college football world. We should at least win a few against Ole Miss, Kentucky, and San Jose State. We deserve a coach who can actually coach!

A lot of us are tired of pissing 10 thousand dollars a season away to win 2 games a year, ZERO conference games at that.

It goes way beyond this season, last season, for nearly a decade of piss poor coaching.

Why do so many of our fans think we "deserve" or are entitled to something?
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: High On Swine on October 16, 2019, 12:07:34 pm
No, we are passionate and care about this program. I appreciate the effort the team has given this year with the exception of the SJS game. They played heartless and lifeless, acted like they stayed drunk and lived in sorority houses all week before that game.

Why people are all over Morris is because there is no rhyme or reason to anything they do offensively. Anyone who cant see that the D is making enough stops (especially in the 1st half of games) for our offense to win games is ignoring how unimpressive this offensive philosophy has been. Too many 3 and outs in critical cruch time situations and too many in the beginning of games. Get the ball moving should not be too much to ask for someone who we were sold was an offensive guru/genius. At first, I chalked it up to the Oline. But then, you watch the coaches put them in position to fail time and time again. They do not utilize plays that have been successful in the past. It has been lets try something different every week. I would rather see 5 plays run every game until they get it right.

On top of that, bonehead call after bonehead call and it goes back to CSU game last year. At Kentucky, the coaching call with 2:45 left, with 4th and 15, and 3 timeouts down 4 is to kick the FG to get down 1. No matter what, the defense had to get stop. I would rather the D get a stop and all we need is a FG to win versus a TD. He makes the wrong calls just about every chance he gets.

Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 16, 2019, 12:12:28 pm
5 years, yeah that’s a great idea..... :D



Haven't you heard? It's eight years at Arkansas.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: afhogfan1980 on October 16, 2019, 12:17:28 pm
If he goes 4-20 at the end of the season recreational weed needs to be legalized as a celebration 👀
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: 195bc on October 16, 2019, 12:19:49 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it. 

Five head coaches since 2007 you say. That’s destroying the program you say. Not including one-game interim coaches, so has Oregon, Florida, SMU, Minnesota. They are all ranked in the top 25. Michigan, Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Toledo, Syracuse have all had four coaches in that time and they are either ranked, coming off good years, or have made significant improvement from last year.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Kevin on October 16, 2019, 12:22:03 pm
Thanks Ms. Morris.

it can't be mrs morris. she knows nothing of arkansas
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Redhogs on October 16, 2019, 12:24:23 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it.
Now get back to work Chad....good lord.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Redhogs on October 16, 2019, 12:25:50 pm
Five head coaches since 2007 you say. That’s destroying the program you say. Not including one-game interim coaches, so has Oregon, Florida, SMU, Minnesota. They are all ranked in the top 25. Michigan, Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Toledo, Syracuse have all had four coaches in that time and they are either ranked, coming off good years, or have made significant improvement from last year.
Guess you just smoked that talking point....and thank you.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawginj on October 16, 2019, 12:31:51 pm
Why do so many of our fans think we "deserve" or are entitled to something?
Because we have earned it.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 16, 2019, 12:32:16 pm
Because we have earned it.

How's that?
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Mr. Porkleone on October 16, 2019, 12:33:17 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient
Land help the effort not hurt it. 


Call someone who cares.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: High On Swine on October 16, 2019, 12:34:14 pm
How's that?

Um, investing time and money for a lot of us over the course of a lifetime. Paying a coach who is the highest paid state employee. Even if you are not donating or going to games, if you live in Arkansas you are paying.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: jcbville on October 16, 2019, 12:35:00 pm
They’re living up to the expectations that have been set I suppose.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 16, 2019, 12:35:42 pm
Um, investing time and money for a lot of us over the course of a lifetime.

That sounds like your choice to me. No one made you do it, did they?
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: High On Swine on October 16, 2019, 12:39:03 pm
That sounds like your choice to me. No one made you do it, did they?

I'm not, they pissed me off 10 years ago through their lack of customer service and homie don't play that. The OP who I quoted asked how we have a right to complain so I thought I would give them a proper answer.

You don't believe those give you reason to complain? If you are not a donor or live in the state, then you have no complaints other than a regular fan who does not like losing.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: pingeye2 on October 16, 2019, 12:39:29 pm
While I agree that CCM seems to be in way over his head I do realize that many (most?) thought the very same about Nolan after 2 seasons. I'm certain we are all glad we didn't have too quick of a trigger there. Maybe a similar situation here, maybe not. None of us know for sure....
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawginj on October 16, 2019, 12:42:40 pm
How's that?
you see like many here and across this great state we were born here, raised here, invested time, money, sweat, and tears. We have worked for it, suffered and endured through it for all of our lives. We have won and lost with our team, we have sacrificed precious time with them as well. This is more than just a team,more than just a game it is part of us. The Arkansas Razorback program is just as important to us as our own beating heart. That's why!
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: nesjunk on October 16, 2019, 12:46:51 pm
While I agree that CCM seems to be in way over his head I do realize that many (most?) thought the very same about Nolan after 2 seasons. I'm certain we are all glad we didn't have too quick of a trigger there. Maybe a similar situation here, maybe not. None of us know for sure....


Nolan was 12-16 in his first season (7th in the SWC) and 19-14 in his second season (5th in the SWC) with a post-season win in the NIT.  That's some pretty visible improvement.  Yeah, I'm gonna go with "not".
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: High On Swine on October 16, 2019, 12:47:04 pm
you see like many here and across this great state we were born here, raised here, invested time, money, sweat, and tears. We have worked for it, suffered and endured through it for all of our lives. We have won and lost with our team, we have sacrificed precious time with them as well. This is more than just a team,more than just a game it is part of us. The Arkansas Razorback program is just as important to us as our own beating heart. That's why!

Truth, and if you don't get this, then you are a troll on this board and not a true fan.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawginj on October 16, 2019, 12:49:21 pm
Truth, and if you don't get this, then you are a troll on this board and not a true fan.
There are lots of those little buggers here my friend lots of em!
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Sivad on October 16, 2019, 12:51:07 pm
Thanks Ms. Morris.
At least she’s finally engaging with the fans.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: hogbbq on October 16, 2019, 12:52:23 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it.
When a person needs a heart transplant you don't say lets give the current heart that is failing more time to see if it fixes itself.  Morris was an unwise hire, an experiment given a tremendous amount of money.   He was an unproven HC when with a 14-22 record.  Some on this board criticize Norvell as a possible replacement but he is 31-15 in his fourth year at Memphis, a place not known for football success.  SMU is doing much better in Dykes second year after having to replace some of Morris' recruits.  People criticize Leach, but his record is a winning one and he has a proven record of turning around programs.  Our administration and who ever they went to for advice led us to Morris with a 14-22 record and we now look like a heart transplant patient on life support and you want to wait for the heart to fix itself. 
Nope, can't see it.  Yeah, maybe it gets turned around but there is no reasonable evidence of that happening.  I don't think you can fire him mid stream but if he doesn't make a very big turnaround in the last 6 games he needs to go and we need a guy who has some credentials as a HC.  We took a guy without a winning record and some have been supportive of that decision, I'd prefer a guy with a winning record at a school he has coached as the HC.  Play the percentages not dabble in OJT and experiments.   Three more years of losing records will kill the program.  Making a change will show we realize we messed up and are serious about fixing it, if we  make a wise hire.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 16, 2019, 12:56:01 pm
you see like many here and across this great state we were born here, raised here, invested time, money, sweat, and tears. We have worked for it, suffered and endured through it for all of our lives. We have won and lost with our team, we have sacrificed precious time with them as well. This is more than just a team,more than just a game it is part of us. The Arkansas Razorback program is just as important to us as our own beating heart. That's why!

That doesn't mean we "deserve" anything.

I deserved and earned my diploma from the U of A based on the work I did and meeting the necessary requirements to earn a diploma.

I haven't deserved or earned the U of A winning football games just because I voluntarily decided to give some time and money to the program.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: ballz2thewall on October 16, 2019, 12:56:17 pm
no we're not

tenn is worser.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Porkys Revenge on October 16, 2019, 01:01:21 pm
Sorry for ragging on the grammar. That's normally not like me. I'm a worser human being for it.
CCM is both a nerd and a horrible coach. I’m not sure which one is worst.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawginj on October 16, 2019, 01:02:14 pm
That doesn't mean we "deserve" anything.

I deserved and earned my diploma from the U of A based on the work I did and meeting the necessary requirements to earn a diploma.

I haven't deserved or earned the U of A winning football games just because I voluntarily decided to give some time and money to the program.
That means you don't understand what it is to be an Arkansas Razorbacks fan. Those of us who have donated have chosen to do so yes. But being an Arkansan its not a matter of choice its in your blood its part of who you are we are Razorbacks and we like those that have come before us have earned the right to demand better for those kids and for our beloved university!
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: carolinahogger on October 16, 2019, 01:04:31 pm
Take it easy on the OP.  I'm guessing that English is not his firstest language.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 16, 2019, 01:04:50 pm
That means you don't understand what it is to be an Arkansas Razorbacks fan. Those of us who have donated have chosen to do so yes. But being an Arkansan its not a matter of choice its in your blood its part of who you are we are Razorbacks and we like those that have come before us have earned the right to demand better for those kids and for our beloved university!

Thank you for your service and being the gatekeeper of fandom. We appreciate your hard work.

You are the gatekeeper we...deserve.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: 195bc on October 16, 2019, 01:05:40 pm
you see like many here and across this great state we were born here, raised here, invested time, money, sweat, and tears. We have worked for it, suffered and endured through it for all of our lives. We have won and lost with our team, we have sacrificed precious time with them as well. This is more than just a team,more than just a game it is part of us. The Arkansas Razorback program is just as important to us as our own beating heart. That's why!

This is actually a very good argument for all the fans that have invested so much time into the program over the decades. It's those people that have largely helped Arkansas be in the top 25 in athletic department revenue and attendance, despite the football program being in the bottom half of the P5. At some point, you have to do whatever is feasible to provide those fans with a winning program - not a championship program, just a well run winning program (like Iowa or Utah or Oklahoma State). Because if you don't, you start to lose the support of fans like me - UA grad, born and raised in Arkansas, college football fanatic, and used to try to go to at least one home game per year despite living out of state. I realized some time back that life was more enjoyable if I invested my time in a better run program or just didn't invest my time in any program and do something else on autumn Saturdays. So I invest my time in OU football (I live in Oklahoma and my kids have been largely raised here), and I really enjoy football season. The hope is still there that Arkansas will one day be competitive, but if not, it won't affect me much. I'm in my 40s and barely remember the Hatfield days. So all I've seen is a handful of exciting seasons with Nutt and Petrino, and then a bunch of mediocrity or worse. If something doesn't change, more fans of my age and younger will also start to not care or change allegiance. Then the football program is basically dead. And the lost revenue from football may then affect the resources available to basketball and baseball.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: hawginbigd1 on October 16, 2019, 01:06:35 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it.
I don't think you are wrong in your thought process, where I think you are missing the point is that it is very clear this guy and this staff will never make it and the sooner we rip this bandage off the sooner we can get to something that could be acceptable.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: hogbbq on October 16, 2019, 01:08:40 pm
no we're not

tenn is worser.
Tenn has a win against an SEC team. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: High On Swine on October 16, 2019, 01:09:12 pm
That doesn't mean we "deserve" anything.

I deserved and earned my diploma from the U of A based on the work I did and meeting the necessary requirements to earn a diploma.

I haven't deserved or earned the U of A winning football games just because I voluntarily decided to give some time and money to the program.

We have a deserved right, based on everything we have told you, to send complaints to the RF and BOT. You are correct in that we have not deserved or earned the right to winning football games. If it was that easy my wishes for a national championship in my lifetime would happen this year with a 2-10 or 3-9 or 4-8 record. Nobody, other than players on the field and the coaches paid millions to help them perform at their peak level, deserve to win and only if they do the job, to the standard expected from both those sides, so they can trust/depend on each other to have their backs through thick and thin. It takes trust and dependence on both sides between players/coaches to be a family, pick each other up, hold each other accountable, work their arse off to be the best they can be. That is what winners do.   
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawginj on October 16, 2019, 01:12:42 pm
Thank you for your service and being the gatekeeper of fandom. We appreciate your hard work.

You are the gatekeeper we...deserve.
we both know better than that lol
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Uberanubis on October 16, 2019, 01:13:15 pm
Because we have earned it.

Not sure how we earned to be entitled.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 16, 2019, 01:14:28 pm
We have a deserved right, based on everything we have told you, to send complaints to the RF and BOT. You are correct in that we have not deserved or earned the right to winning football games. If it was that easy my wishes for a national championship in my lifetime would happen this year with a 2-10 or 3-9 or 4-8 record. Nobody, other than players on the field and the coaches paid millions to help them perform at their peak level, deserve to win and only if they do the job, to the standard expected from both those sides, so they can trust/depend on each other to have their backs through thick and thin. It takes trust and dependence on both sides between players/coaches to be a family, pick each other up, hold each other accountable, work their arse off to be the best they can be. That is what winners do.

So now it's changed from we deserve a winning program/head coach to we deserve the right to send complaints.

Not even remotely the same things.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Hawginj on October 16, 2019, 01:18:00 pm
Not sure how we earned to be entitled.
then I suggest you read. You may not have earned it yet but I speak for myself
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: HogsonHicks on October 16, 2019, 01:18:37 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it. 

Hog fans may be the most worstest, most meanest, most baddest, but the product on the field is in line with the behavior in the stands.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: High On Swine on October 16, 2019, 01:19:09 pm
So now it's changed from we deserve a winning program/head coach to we deserve the right to send complaints.

Not even remotely the same things.

I have not changed the narrative. I answered your question as to what gives us a right to care. I am not talking anything about entitled to anything, especially winning, when only the coaches and players can control that. You made your point, glad you got your degree and earned it! We have stated why we care. We can agree to disagree, whatever. But stop putting words that I have not typed.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: snoblind on October 16, 2019, 01:19:15 pm
Learn on the job?  Obviously that isn't happening.

3 games in a row we should have brought the 2nd team QB into the game since #1 wasn't getting it done.  Hell, Morris even said he realized Starkel didn't have it in the 1st Q, but we don't see Hicks until 4th.

So many losses in a row are acceptable to you for the coaches to make the exact same mistake without learning from it?   
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on October 16, 2019, 01:22:46 pm
I have not changed the narrative. I answered your question as to what gives us a right to care. I am not talking anything about entitled to anything, especially winning, when only the coaches and players can control that. You made your point, glad you got your degree and earned it! We have stated why we care. We can agree to disagree, whatever. But stop putting words that I have not typed.

My initial response was to a poster who said, "we deserve a coach who can actually coach!"

My initial response was then met with Hawginj's, "because we have earned it."

I.e., We deserve a coach who can actually coach because we have earned it.

That is where this whole thing started.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: ArkieBacon on October 16, 2019, 01:25:33 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that’s ok.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let’s be patient and help the effort not hurt it.

Chad Morris, you get off this board and do your job!
At lease go out in style and continue to make your last season here a series of close losses.
You're the worst.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: hogbbq on October 16, 2019, 01:26:31 pm
We have a deserved right, based on everything we have told you, to send complaints to the RF and BOT. You are correct in that we have not deserved or earned the right to winning football games. If it was that easy my wishes for a national championship in my lifetime would happen this year with a 2-10 or 3-9 or 4-8 record. Nobody, other than players on the field and the coaches paid millions to help them perform at their peak level, deserve to win and only if they do the job, to the standard expected from both those sides, so they can trust/depend on each other to have their backs through thick and thin. It takes trust and dependence on both sides between players/coaches to be a family, pick each other up, hold each other accountable, work their arse off to be the best they can be. That is what winners do.
I'd disagree in that taxpayers and contributing boosters and ticket buyers can make a reasonable argument for a reasonable return on money invested.  A large amount of money goes into the program, some of it from taxes and contributions and ticket sales.  Nobody likes seeing their money thrown away.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: High On Swine on October 16, 2019, 01:27:20 pm
My initial response was to a poster who said, "we deserve a coach who can actually coach!"

My initial response was then met with Hawginj's, "because we have earned it."

I.e., We deserve a coach who can actually coach because we have earned it.

That is where this whole thing started.

I was not the poster of any of that. I would argue that any fanbase school deserves a coach and should expect a coach who can actually coach. No, they are not entitled to one. After that, it is up to the people in power, PTB/BOT to supply someone who can do that and not throw a little money here or there on coaches that cannot. You want to be little, you spend little. You want a real coach, you open the book and go get them. Do we deserve better, absolutely. Are we entitled to better, absolutely not.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: rzrbaxfan on October 16, 2019, 01:29:03 pm
This thread is worst than the usual "give chad more time" thread
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: HogsonHicks on October 16, 2019, 01:29:28 pm
Chad Morris, you get off this board and do your job!
At lease go out in style and continue to make your last season here a series of close losses.
You're the worst.

C’mon man, you have to follow the theme here.

He’s the worse.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Cambridge Hog on October 16, 2019, 01:34:47 pm
lost me at "Chad Morris"
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: snoblind on October 16, 2019, 01:35:15 pm
I'd disagree in that taxpayers and contributing boosters and ticket buyers can make a reasonable argument for a reasonable return on money invested.  A large amount of money goes into the program, some of it from taxes and contributions and ticket sales.  Nobody likes seeing their money thrown away.

No tax $ go into the athletic program.  Self supporting and has been for a long time.

Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: hogbbq on October 16, 2019, 01:48:17 pm
No tax $ go into the athletic program.  Self supporting and has been for a long time.
I stand corrected.
So cost are from ticket sales, boosters, donors and athletic apparel and merchandise sales. 
So I bought a pair of socks with a razorback on them, I want a better coach. 
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/arkansas-one-of-24-financially-self-supporting-programs-in-ncaa/
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: snoblind on October 16, 2019, 02:07:57 pm
I stand corrected.
So cost are from ticket sales, boosters, donors and athletic apparel and merchandise sales. 
So I bought a pair of socks with a razorback on them, I want a better coach. 
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/arkansas-one-of-24-financially-self-supporting-programs-in-ncaa/

The 2 big income items you are missing are the TV and IMG contracts.

I blew off the foundation donation and season tickets this year.  My family were donors going back to before there was a Razorback foundation and my dad started buying tickets in the late 40's, season tickets from sometime in the 50's.

Frank and the Citadel game caused my dad to say to hell with it.  Somewhat surprised I lasted as long as I did.  Will always root for my Hogs, but the foundation and athletic department can waste someone else's coin. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 16, 2019, 02:10:01 pm
Why do so many of our fans think we "deserve" or are entitled to something?

No one seems to be able to answer this, lol. Quite a few folks here keep saying, "fans deserve it". I hope someone here can help us understand what Arkansas fans have done differently to "deserve it" more than any other group of fans.  Is it because we attend games no matter the record? Is it because we stay til the end of the game regardless of score? Do we spend more on concessions?  Do we have a better tailgate scene? Do we tithe more to the football gods? If so, when and how much? Or, do some of us just make blanket, empty statements to try to make ourselves feel like we're more relevant than we really are.

I'm all for commanding higher expectations and all but let's put an end to this ridiculous, worthless "we the fans deserve better" BS.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: HardCore on October 16, 2019, 02:12:16 pm
NEVER EVER NOT ONCE BEAT A POWER 5 TEAM AS A HC......EVER.  I don't blame Chad, he is just not good.  I blame whoever thought this was a good idea.

+1. Pretty much said it all.  I have nothing more to add, so off to the next Thread.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are the worse
Post by: hogbbq on October 16, 2019, 02:15:08 pm
The 2 big income items you are missing are the TV and IMG contracts.

I blew off the foundation donation and season tickets this year.  My family were donors going back to before there was a Razorback foundation and my dad started buying tickets in the late 40's, season tickets from sometime in the 50's.

Frank and the Citadel game caused my dad to say to hell with it.  Somewhat surprised I lasted as long as I did.  Will always root for my Hogs, but the foundation and athletic department can waste someone else's coin.

Obviously I missed the boat but the point is that a lot of money goes into athletics and a large amount of money is paid to coaches, HC and all the assistants. What fans want and deserve is a return on that money and support.  It sometimes seems the University doesn't care too much for fans.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: 010HogFan on October 16, 2019, 02:15:40 pm
No one seems to be able to answer this, lol. Quite a few folks here keep saying, "fans deserve it". I hope someone here can help us understand what Arkansas fans have done differently to "deserve it" more than any other group of fans.  Is it because we attend games no matter the record? Is it because we stay til the end of the game regardless of score? Do we spend more on concessions?  Do we have a better tailgate scene? Do we tithe more to the football gods? If so, when and how much? Or, do some of us just make blanket, empty statements to try to make ourselves feel like we're more relevant than we really are.

I'm all for commanding higher expectations and all but let's put an end to this ridiculous, worthless "we the fans deserve better" BS.

Ehhh we honestly do deserve better than this after all that has happened. It's a wonder that anyone still cares and that is a testament to the fanbase. Hopefully basketball is at least average this year.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: code red on October 16, 2019, 02:19:44 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that's OK.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading these boards. 

Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let's be patient and help the effort not hurt it. 
Question....who do you think wants to come to the U of A to play football?  Are you paying attention to the dropped commits?  To the defections mid season?  This thing is crumbling and it is NOT the fans fault....not even close.  Support a loser?  Nah.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: Hogwop on October 16, 2019, 02:23:30 pm
lol
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: Jek Tono Porkins on October 16, 2019, 02:24:54 pm
He lost to Colorado State, got creamed by North Texas, lost to San Jose State, and hasn't won a conference game yet. Please explain to me how that is acceptable in any way, shape, or form. We're at rock bottom but even at rock bottom we should be able to win against North Texas, San Jose State, and not lose to one of the worst teams in the SEC on their third string, converted-wide-receiver quarterback.

I mean at least Bielema had some excuses for his terrible losses. That loss to Rutgers in 2013 was because BA got hurt and he had to play a guy at QB who ended up getting drafted as a tight end. His first six conference opponents were all ranked at the time. Then the next year his first six conference opponents were all ranked in the top 10 at the time. But even then his team ran over Texas Tech like a herd of buffalo. Then he shut out two conference opponents and won a bowl game. Even the fat alky wonder managed to win 6 games in year 2.

Morris is losing pay-to-play games and hasn't even played a ranked team yet and he's still losing. We're not beating Auburn, Bama, Missouri, or LSU. Probably not beating Mississippi State. That leaves Western Kentucky as the only winnable game on the schedule but Morris sucks so bad that Western Kentucky is basically a toss up game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: Tweeter on October 16, 2019, 02:26:20 pm
All the “Chad Morris” should be fired folks are doing nothing but hurting the effort to rebuild this program.  Yes, the results are not what I wished for but the season is not over and neither is all the work. 

Do y’all realize we have had five head coaches since the 2007 season.  How many lost recruiting seasons we lost?  How many schemes have been changed?

I agree Chad Morris might be learning a bit on the job, and that's OK.  I admit perhaps there might need to be a few staff changes.  But scraping the whole thing at this point is wrong and will cause more lean years. 

The one thing that can turn this around is recruiting and in this day and age trust me every kid is reading


Nobody wants to hear this but five years! 

Btw, I would not mind seeing a different quarterback.  Maybe a running QB. 

But let's be patient and help the effort not hurt it.


YOU DON'T COME TO THE SEC TO LEARN ON THE JOB. :puke:
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: waterhogged on October 16, 2019, 02:31:34 pm
This is a great thread because good points are made on both sides of the fence.  My concern is that changing a coach after 2 years is a self-imposed death penalty to the program.  You throw away 3 recruiting classes in a row.  That guarantees mediocrity for an extended period.  What I see in Morris is a coach who is learning on the job unfortunately while trying to be a CEO type who lets the assistants do their job.  I like a CEO type coach.  But every CEO has to put results above loyalty.  And if Morris is using the Clemson blueprint (and those fans were calling Dabo an experiment and for him to be fired after year 2 as well), then Morris' next step is to fire assistants, just like Dabo. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: sickboy on October 16, 2019, 02:31:45 pm
I'm as optimistic a guy as you'll find. And I like Chad Morris and I think he could be a winner. But it's not going to be at Arkansas. Things just didn't bounce his way here, for whatever reason.

I agree that it sucks that we are looking at another coaching change, but you just can't continue to lose to teams Arkansas has historically rarely, if ever, lost to. That's just this business. Nobody in their right mind can reward that type of losing with continued employment.

It sucks, but Morris needs to start over somewhere else and Arkansas needs to try and hire someone to pull us out of this mess. At this point, the relationship isn't good for either party.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: PorkSoda on October 16, 2019, 02:33:08 pm
This is a great thread because good points are made on both sides of the fence.  My concern is that changing a coach after 2 years is a self-imposed death penalty to the program.  You throw away 3 recruiting classes in a row.  That guarantees mediocrity for an extended period.  What I see in Morris is a coach who is learning on the job unfortunately while trying to be a CEO type who lets the assistants do their job.  I like a CEO type coach.  But every CEO has to put results above loyalty.  And if Morris is using the Clemson blueprint (and those fans were calling Dabo an experiment and for him to be fired after year 2 as well), then Morris' next step is to fire assistants, just like Dabo. 
I keep hearing this word, but I don't remember what its like.  If firing morris guarantees mediocrity for the next few years, Kick his but to the curb yesterday.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 16, 2019, 02:38:28 pm
Sup Chad, you’re a clown and suck at coaching football.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: SeldomHere on October 16, 2019, 02:50:48 pm
Thanks Ms. Morris.
Do they get Hogville where she lives? Asking for some concerned friends.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 16, 2019, 07:25:14 pm
Do they get Hogville where she lives? Asking for some concerned friends.

There's this thing called the internet........I bet she has it.
Title: Re: Arkansas Fans are cantankerous & narky better?
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 16, 2019, 07:27:49 pm
At least she’s finally engaging with the fans.

Haha! Good one!