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Title: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 14, 2019, 07:07:18 pm
Are in the air.  Heard from a person that knows more than most of us that this thing may change sooner rather than later. 

Hate to go around shooting off my mouth about rumors but this one fellow says Morris is on thinner ice than those three years for sure people think. 

Gonna get ugly the next few weeks.  I followed up and this person has not heard Freezeís name so that may be a classic Arkansas smokescreen.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: SpaHog1986 on October 14, 2019, 07:13:11 pm
Is Christmas coming early?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Arkansas Fan on October 14, 2019, 07:15:34 pm
Hooray! Another coaching search for us to enjoy at the expense of our dying football program. Morris needs to go, though.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: B Ray on October 14, 2019, 07:15:34 pm
I hope if this decision is made , they decide to play SEC style coach , going to take money 7-10 million , play big or go home
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: jrulz83 on October 14, 2019, 07:17:31 pm
One thing I am willing to guarantee.

The situation is fluid.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Hollywood870 on October 14, 2019, 07:19:31 pm
Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Tommy on October 14, 2019, 07:20:20 pm
Are in the air.  Heard from a person that knows more than most of us that this thing may change sooner rather than later. 

Hate to go around shooting off my mouth about rumors but this one fellow says Morris is on thinner ice than those three years for sure people think. 

Gonna get ugly the next few weeks.  I followed up and this person has not heard Freezeís name so that may be a classic Arkansas smokescreen.
.

Are ur sources better than Guvs?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 14, 2019, 07:22:10 pm
Hooray! Another coaching search for us to enjoy at the expense of our dying football program. Morris needs to go, though.
They really need to start a reality TV show chronicling the demise Arkansas football program.  Would probably get higher ratings than the games. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Formula Hog on October 14, 2019, 07:22:29 pm
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Are ur sources better than Guvs?

Or PRJ?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 14, 2019, 07:29:19 pm
.

Are ur sources better than Guvs?
I don't want to name names, but word on the street is that the dog in his avatar is intermittently possessed by the ghost of Darrell Royal.  There is a little diner off cantrell in little rock where Darrell Royal and Frank Broyles are known to have cathead biscuits n gravy for breakfast on occasion. 

Suffice to say, OTR's sources are reliable.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 14, 2019, 07:32:12 pm
They really need to start a reality TV show chronicling the demise Arkansas football program.  Would probably get higher ratings than the games.

We tried that with cbb. It was cowboy boots, teacup Yorkies, dock fishing, eating salads,  shopping for groceries and talking about serving up lobsters.  I was mesmerized.

Lots of sources or people with sources.  Mine is as good as any and better than Guvís and probably not as good as pork rind jimmyís.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Swestwill66 on October 14, 2019, 07:33:17 pm
Hooray! Another coaching search for us to enjoy at the expense of our dying football program. Morris needs to go, though.

Hey, the last time it got fairly entertaining. We had a drunk guy lurking around the airport trying to get a pic of the new coach prospect and guys tracking rf planes to distant lands.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 14, 2019, 07:33:27 pm
I don't want to name names, but word on the street is that the dog in his avatar is intermittently possessed by the ghost of Darrell Royal.  There is a little diner off cantrell in little rock where Darrell Royal and Frank Broyles are known to have cathead biscuits n gravy for breakfast on occasion. 

Suffice to say, OTR's sources are reliable.

Buddy has not consulted hilda the Tontitown mystic nor Johnny seance whose name says it all. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: solitons on October 14, 2019, 07:36:25 pm
Are in the air.  Heard from a person that knows more than most of us that this thing may change sooner rather than later. 

Hate to go around shooting off my mouth about rumors but this one fellow says Morris is on thinner ice than those three years for sure people think. 

Gonna get ugly the next few weeks.  I followed up and this person has not heard Freezeís name so that may be a classic Arkansas smokescreen.
Wish your source is good
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: parallaxpig on October 14, 2019, 07:38:19 pm
When KNWA leads off their news with Chad Morrisís job security you know things are going downhill quickly.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Arkansas Fan on October 14, 2019, 07:44:46 pm
Hey, the last time it got fairly entertaining. We had a drunk guy lurking around the airport trying to get a pic of the new coach prospect and guys tracking rf planes to distant lands.

I did get a laugh thinking about some guy hiding in the bushes taking pictures of who's getting off a plane or into a black SUV like it's Area 51.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 14, 2019, 07:56:09 pm
When KNWA leads off their news with Chad Morrisís job security you know things are going downhill quickly.
If thatís true thatís a death sentence and it indicates it might happen sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 14, 2019, 07:58:53 pm
When KNWA leads off their news with Chad Morrisís job security you know things are going downhill quickly.

The same source told me three weeks ago that he has heard Morris was going to get three years for a variety of reasons but apparently something changed pretty drastically over the weekend in the minds of some key folks. 

My personal feeling is that it would take a win or near win against one of the upcoming big three to salvage things and we all know that isnít going to happen. 

If we had won one of the games we should have won this year this might not be happening but he didnít. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Karma on October 14, 2019, 08:00:52 pm
When KNWA leads off their news with Chad Morrisís job security you know things are going downhill quickly.
Did that happen?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 14, 2019, 08:02:48 pm
I'm claiming #1 darksider status over Bignasty


Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: thebignasty on October 14, 2019, 08:03:10 pm
One thing I am willing to guarantee.

The situation is fluid.
Right now its thin ice but could get fluid with a nice stiff southerly breeze, if I'm reading things right.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: thebignasty on October 14, 2019, 08:04:33 pm
I'm claiming #1 darksider status over Bignasty
I'm on the record as a darksider since a few days before the hire was made official. 

I have been thinking about digging through 1091s posts to get some Morris train ammo, I'm sure he was a big fan during Chad's Clemson run.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: parallaxpig on October 14, 2019, 08:05:29 pm
Did that happen?

Yes, tonightís 6 news. I watched it.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: samhog49 on October 14, 2019, 08:06:33 pm
Did that happen?

This was what they led off with on their 6pm show, found it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YRrXCH0vSE&t=41s
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: thebignasty on October 14, 2019, 08:06:59 pm
I'd hate to  give anyone the wrong idea about OTR here but I think this thread is more lobster than jelly sandwich, fwiw.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 14, 2019, 08:12:11 pm
I'd hate to  give anyone the wrong idea about OTR here but I think this thread is more lobster than jelly sandwich, fwiw.


Let's not forget that Odell led a "support Chad rally" at Lot 46 tonight, and the only person who showed up was Odell
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: jrulz83 on October 14, 2019, 08:13:24 pm
Right now its thin ice but could get fluid with a nice stiff southerly breeze, if I'm reading things right.

Wind is shifting from the south as I type. Buckle up.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 14, 2019, 08:14:29 pm

Let's not forget that Odell led a "support Chad rally" at Lot 46 tonight, and the only person who showed up was Odell
and apparently you.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: thebignasty on October 14, 2019, 08:15:18 pm
and apparently you.
Rudy parked across the street and heckled them.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 14, 2019, 08:20:12 pm
and apparently you.


 I covered it for KNWA

I paid them
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hawgon on October 14, 2019, 08:21:55 pm
On the Zach and Ruskin show a guy called today and said that he worked at the university.  He didnít say in what capacity or where he worked.  But he said the internal scuttlebut is that HY has seen enough and that short of winning out, there isnít much that Morris can do to save his job.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 14, 2019, 08:22:38 pm

Let's not forget that Odell led a "support Chad rally" at Lot 46 tonight, and the only person who showed up was Odell

I know Iíve spun a few yarns over the years and may have exaggerated a few things about Odell and Hoss and uncle Tugo Kardashian and but I think my track record in mmqb is above reproach. 

I am going to recommend we all take a deep breath and beware of people naming names of the next coach because I do not think we are that far along yet.  We may have a wish list but we have most certainly not chosen a new coach yet because we still have to get some things worked out and there is no guarantee that has happened or will happen.  Timing is also very very iffy right now.  Very iffy.

Everyone needs to simmer down and beware of false prophets here.  There are three or four folks here who have good sources and a thousand who say they do.  I refuse to promise anything until I am sure it will happen.  Thatís my guarantee to you.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 14, 2019, 08:23:29 pm
The same source told me three weeks ago that he has heard Morris was going to get three years for a variety of reasons but apparently something changed pretty drastically over the weekend in the minds of some key folks. 

My personal feeling is that it would take a win or near win against one of the upcoming big three to salvage things and we all know that isn’t going to happen. 

If we had won one of the games we should have won this year this might not be happening but he didn’t. 
ONE, I've been finding excuses for this staff but we have left 3 wins on the field  this year alone.,SJSU,A&M,KY. All three were left out there. Our team was as good as theirs, was in the game to the end and blew all three. Although all of them were blown earlier in the game we still almost won all three.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 14, 2019, 08:27:01 pm
ONE, I've been finding excuses for this staff but we have left 3 wins on the field  this year alone.,SJSU,A&M,KY. All three were left out there. Our team was as good as theirs, was in the game to the end and blew all three. Although all of them were blown earlier in the game we still almost won all three.

Yes.  That seems to have been the tipping point or so Iíve heard.  If he has one one or two of those heíd be in warm water but not hot.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: razorcash2 on October 14, 2019, 08:27:39 pm
When will the drunk guy hunker down in the bushes at Drake Field?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: TomasPistola on October 14, 2019, 08:27:54 pm
I'm watching for planes and the color of Bobby Petrino's tie.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: afhogfan1980 on October 14, 2019, 08:32:42 pm
One thing I am willing to guarantee.

The situation is fluid.
vanilla by design
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Karma on October 14, 2019, 08:40:32 pm
This was what they led off with on their 6pm show, found it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YRrXCH0vSE&t=41s
Wow.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 14, 2019, 08:42:07 pm
When will the drunk guy hunker down in the bushes at Drake Field?

Pay attention to The OTR and youíll know exactly when to turn on the bat signal to get Norseberry over to Drake field.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: SRV on October 14, 2019, 08:42:31 pm
I don't want to name names, but word on the street is that the dog in his avatar is intermittently possessed by the ghost of Darrell Royal.  There is a little diner off cantrell in little rock where Darrell Royal and Frank Broyles are known to have cathead biscuits n gravy for breakfast on occasion. 

Suffice to say, OTR's sources are reliable.
That was some good breakfast
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Svrdhd on October 14, 2019, 08:43:25 pm
The situation is untenable and I expect a change at seasonís end,  but I donít trust anyone with a high post count except Pork. The bulk of those holding court preen and chide with very little substance and largely disappear when you once again fall completely flat.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: 31to6 on October 14, 2019, 08:45:13 pm
One thing I am willing to guarantee.

The situation is fluid.
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Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: checkraiser88 on October 14, 2019, 08:46:21 pm
Well if we are losing recruits anyway have Lunney come in as the interim. Then let HY work his magic like he did in basketball.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 14, 2019, 08:51:37 pm
I don't want to name names, but word on the street is that the dog in his avatar is intermittently possessed by the ghost of Darrell Royal.  There is a little diner off cantrell in little rock where Darrell Royal and Frank Broyles are known to have cathead biscuits n gravy for breakfast on occasion. 

Suffice to say, OTR's sources are reliable.

Thatíll be enough about the greatest breakfast secret in the state, soda. Going forward, it should be managed just like the first rule of Fight Club.  Iíd dare anyone in this thread to find a better spot for cathead buttermilk biscuits than that place off Cantrell. Canít recall the name at the moment which is probably for the best given new the Fight Club rules anyway.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: SRV on October 14, 2019, 08:52:51 pm
Are in the air.  Heard from a person that knows more than most of us that this thing may change sooner rather than later. 

Hate to go around shooting off my mouth about rumors but this one fellow says Morris is on thinner ice than those three years for sure people think. 

Gonna get ugly the next few weeks.  I followed up and this person has not heard Freezeís name so that may be a classic Arkansas smokescreen.
Good thing we have you in NWA. It's good to get some solid insight into what's going on behind the curtains up there.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: SRV on October 14, 2019, 08:53:43 pm
Thatíll be enough about the greatest breakfast secret in the state, soda. Going forward, it should be managed just like the first rule of Fight Club.  Iíd dare anyone in this thread to find a better spot for cathead buttermilk biscuits than that place off Cantrell. Canít recall the name at the moment which is probably for the best given new the Fight Club rules anyway.
It was incredible
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: upperdeck_hawg on October 14, 2019, 08:58:50 pm
If true, let's not F it up like we did 2 years ago and bring Mike Norvell to the hill.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 14, 2019, 09:14:50 pm
Sweet, I love a good weather thread!!  :)
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 14, 2019, 09:16:29 pm
Sweet, I love a good weather thread!!  :)
southerly winds favor the hogs.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 14, 2019, 09:25:40 pm
Good thing we have you in NWA. It's good to get some solid insight into what's going on behind the curtains up there.

Not gonna give you half baked rumors. Just gonna give you facts as they occur.  Iíve probably said enough.  You boys that are all worked up need to get some sleep and simmer down.  We got out the flour and oil and salt and buttermilk and set it in the cabinet.  The wheels are in motion but weíre a long way from mashing out a cat head biscuit and certainly a long way from pulling them out of the oven.  The process has started but could be aborted at any time.

Thereís so much heat in here....hot seat, firing the coach, dumpster fire, burned bridges, burned red shirts, and burn it down now.  With that much heat this pan of biscuits could cook fast so stay tuned. 

Gonna try to start speaking in parables so the masses can follow.  Donít want to leave anyone behind.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: pigzwillrise on October 14, 2019, 09:28:16 pm
Not gonna give you half baked rumors. Just gonna give you facts as they occur.  Iíve probably said enough.  You boys that are all worked up need to get some sleep and simmer down.  We got out the flour and oil and salt and buttermilk and set it in the cabinet.  The wheels are in motion but weíre a long way from mashing out a cat head biscuit and certainly a long way from pulling them out of the oven.  The process has started but could be aborted at any time.

Thereís so much heat in here....hot seat, firing the coach, dumpster fire, burned bridges, burned red shirts, and burn it down now.  With that much heat this pan of biscuits could cook fast so stay tuned. 

Gonna try to start speaking in parables so the masses can follow.  Donít want to leave anyone behind.
  who represents the flour, oil? Salt? Buttermilk?  Iíd bet Leach is the salt and Kiffin is the buttermilk.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: solitons on October 14, 2019, 09:29:12 pm

Let's not forget that Odell led a "support Chad rally" at Lot 46 tonight, and the only person who showed up was Odell
I thought many fans support this coach, it's a true good sign. did HY know?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Bebop on October 14, 2019, 09:30:41 pm
Norvell?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hobhog on October 14, 2019, 09:32:06 pm
Nameless posters quoting unknown sources. What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: lasthog on October 14, 2019, 09:35:11 pm
Nameless posters quoting unknown sources. What could possibly go wrong?
But they will be held accountable!
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: ThisTeetsTaken on October 14, 2019, 09:37:45 pm
I was wondering when we would see the first ďwinds of changeĒ titled post.   
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: SeldomHere on October 14, 2019, 09:39:33 pm
One thing I am willing to guarantee.

The situation is fluid.

The best ones are.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Pennywise on October 14, 2019, 09:40:24 pm
Nameless posters quoting unknown sources. What could possibly go wrong?

Welcome to hogville.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: ur on October 14, 2019, 09:40:42 pm
Hey, the last time it got fairly entertaining. We had a drunk guy lurking around the airport trying to get a pic of the new coach prospect and guys tracking rf planes to distant lands.
From 2017
Norsberry is Hogville Black Ops. Our grandkids will be playing it as a game. They will all fight to be Norsberry.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 14, 2019, 09:41:00 pm
I was wondering when we would see the first “winds of change” titled post.   
That song has one of the top whistle parts of all time in it. The Scorpions. Oh we're talkin coaches here, my bad.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: jkstock04 on October 14, 2019, 09:41:28 pm
Are in the air.  Heard from a person that knows more than most of us that this thing may change sooner rather than later. 

Hate to go around shooting off my mouth about rumors but this one fellow says Morris is on thinner ice than those three years for sure people think. 

Gonna get ugly the next few weeks.  I followed up and this person has not heard Freezeís name so that may be a classic Arkansas smokescreen.
You also guarantee that the Hogs are going to win football games every weekend. Neat.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: bkjbearcat on October 14, 2019, 09:44:52 pm
Art Briles or Hugh Freeze?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: HogFoo on October 14, 2019, 09:50:55 pm
Are in the air.  Heard from a person that knows more than most of us that this thing may change sooner rather than later. 

Hate to go around shooting off my mouth about rumors but this one fellow says Morris is on thinner ice than those three years for sure people think. 

Gonna get ugly the next few weeks.  I followed up and this person has not heard Freezeís name so that may be a classic Arkansas smokescreen.
Well. As bad as i hate to hear about things going this bad.  I also spoke with a friend tonight, who usually gives me all my info and he pretty much said something similar  to what you are saying. And perhaps quicker than the end of the season...  ugh...  this sucks...  I never thought itd be like this, the entire state of our football program.  But, it has fallen.  i just dont have faith in Morris to get it done at this point.  I liked hearing what he said he was going to do, we have talent, but,ya know,  we should have seen at least some semblance of something like what Morris supposedly wanted to do.  Heck, Petrino turned Casey Dick into a serviceable QB. Hicks & Starkell aren't THAT bad... OLine is, so losing our top OL recruit hurt a lot!  I thought, well, if we could still recruit even thru the losses, "next year, or the next" is when we'd get it going... but now.. unfortunately, i lost all faith after we lost to UK this past week.  Which, i believe those, like myself , let go of the rope.  dang it.  dang it... dang it.....

Oh well, let's start up the hire Gruden campaign again!  hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa  (laughing like the Joker from the new movie)
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 14, 2019, 09:53:18 pm
Nameless posters quoting unknown sources. What could possibly go wrong?

You must not be familiar with the halftime ritual story OTR broke wide open during the Bielema era. I would argue it lead to the downfall of CBB and strangely, set in motion every Twist concessions thread created here since then. Letís also not forget that youíre not gonna find a better pregame weather breakdown than what The OTR provides on either side of the Mississippi. You just need to spend some time with the OTR historians before posting anything else.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: BroyledNutts on October 14, 2019, 09:54:38 pm
I have a feeling the point of no return for Morris will be when this team becomes ineligible for post season play.
I think that may be his undoing ... or a loss to Western Kentucky.
One of those two will break the camel's back.
Multiple kids leaving, decommitting, after HY publicly stating the program was on the right track with recruiting, may have shattered the thin ice Morris was quietly on.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PigDaddyKane on October 14, 2019, 09:55:40 pm
Sorry Iím not getting the southerly reference.  Iím assuming itís a candidate but who?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: LRrazorback on October 14, 2019, 10:00:33 pm
Not gonna give you half baked rumors. Just gonna give you facts as they occur.  Iíve probably said enough.  You boys that are all worked up need to get some sleep and simmer down.  We got out the flour and oil and salt and buttermilk and set it in the cabinet.  The wheels are in motion but weíre a long way from mashing out a cat head biscuit and certainly a long way from pulling them out of the oven.  The process has started but could be aborted at any time.

Thereís so much heat in here....hot seat, firing the coach, dumpster fire, burned bridges, burned red shirts, and burn it down now.  With that much heat this pan of biscuits could cook fast so stay tuned. 

Gonna try to start speaking in parables so the masses can follow.  Donít want to leave anyone behind.

Thatís blasphemy.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: HogFoo on October 14, 2019, 10:00:46 pm
I have a feeling the point of no return for Morris will be when this team becomes ineligible for post season play.
I think that may be his undoing ... or a loss to Western Kentucky.
One of those two will break the camel's back.
Multiple kids leaving, decommitting, after HY publicly stating the program was on the right track with recruiting, may have shattered the thin ice Morris was quietly on.
yep
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 14, 2019, 10:05:21 pm
You also guarantee that the Hogs are going to win football games every weekend. Neat.
Morris' inability to use the weather to his advantage has been his down fall.  I don't see how that is anyone's fault but his own.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Justifiable Hogicide on October 14, 2019, 10:11:44 pm
Multiple kids leaving, decommitting, after HY publicly stating the program was on the right track with recruiting, may have shattered the thin ice Morris was quietly on.
The Morris clown show is making a fool out of Hunter Yuracheck and he probably knows it.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Hoggish1 on October 14, 2019, 10:21:06 pm
Well if we are losing recruits anyway have Lunney come in as the interim. Then let HY work his magic like he did in basketball.

I heard this same argument.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The Kig on October 14, 2019, 10:34:48 pm
weíre a long way from mashing out a cat head

Can we at least start here... the biscuit can wait.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: STLhawg on October 14, 2019, 11:45:05 pm
Art Briles or Hugh Freeze?
Art might work out nicely in Fayetteville, but not Hugh -- he isn't much different than Chad (when you take the bag men he had at Ole Miss away).
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 14, 2019, 11:46:01 pm
Thatíll be enough about the greatest breakfast secret in the state, soda. Going forward, it should be managed just like the first rule of Fight Club.  Iíd dare anyone in this thread to find a better spot for cathead buttermilk biscuits than that place off Cantrell. Canít recall the name at the moment which is probably for the best given new the Fight Club rules anyway.


I've been staggering drunk outside that place. Halfway passed out in the parking lot, laying there looking straight up at the sign. The name of it is on the tip of my tongue.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Oklahawg on October 14, 2019, 11:50:45 pm
Sorry, too much reliving Petrino's demise and then I read "stiff south breeze" and I am thinking a coach got caught with a coed. Did I miss anything?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Oklahawg on October 14, 2019, 11:52:39 pm
We don't know what conversations have been had behind closed doors on campus.

A HC struggling to turn the corner can earn some serious leeway by taking that issue to the AD and asking for ideas. Or, when the AD suggests over a cordial golf game that maybe it is time to change out a couple of assistants and the coach gets miffed you can predict easily that the candle is about to be blown out.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: ronmahony on October 15, 2019, 01:32:56 am
Durned if we do, durned if we donít. If we keep losing we will probably keep losing players. But if we fire him how many of his recruits will we lose, especially out of that high recruiting class?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: runninrazorback on October 15, 2019, 08:53:15 am
We tried that with cbb. It was cowboy boots, teacup Yorkies, dock fishing, eating salads,  shopping for groceries and talking about serving up lobsters.  I was mesmerized.

Lots of sources or people with sources.  Mine is as good as any and better than Guvís and probably not as good as pork rind jimmyís.
There's a youtube video called the demise of Arkansas football.  FWIW.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hoglady on October 15, 2019, 09:05:54 am
When KNWA leads off their news with Chad Morris’s job security you know things are going downhill quickly.

I'd say that Morris' seat has some fires burning for sure.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Pennywise on October 15, 2019, 09:06:45 am
I'd say that Morris' seat has some fires burning for sure.

For sure. Unless he loses out....he will be back next year. Unless he finds a new job. Which isnít unlikely.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Lsudental7 on October 15, 2019, 09:18:02 am
OTR historians, please enlighten me on this half time story of the CBB era, Iím not familiar.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 12:26:26 pm
OTR historians, please enlighten me on this half time story of the CBB era, Iím not familiar.

I can do that as they are frantically pouring over information I spewed out during other coaching changes as they are somewhat in the dark as to what might happen and are looking for a clue as to one of the codes I use to disperse information.

One of the worst kept secrets in Razorback sports history is Jellygate.  CBB believed that his boys needed a snack at halftime. I am guessing but I'd say it's a pretty good guess that CBB, Sam Pittman, and Jim Chaney cooked up this one in a late night strategy session over pulled pork sandwiches in CBB's office.  That makes sense as all three seem like the type that might not be able to go 3 and a half hours without a snack.

So throughout the CBB era we went into halftime and ate jelly sandwiches. There was much debate here on the verities of how that nutrition affected our players' performance.  While no scientific study was ever conducted on our players the only evidence we had of whether or not that the jelly was working or not was the results on the field. Countless second half meltdowns seemed to indicate that perhaps the jelly sandwiches were having an adverse effect on performance.  I pleaded with various media members to ask post game questions about jelly sandwiches but my requests fell on deaf media ears.

This is still a riddle shrouded in mystery as no one is certain how many sandwiches were eaten by players or if there ever any talk, after the 10th or so meltdown, but maybe we should try gatorade and orange slices instead. 

Jellygate is a black cloud over the program. I personally consider it the major factor in our program's demise.  We are still trying to recover from jellygate.  Lots of folks to blame on this one. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 15, 2019, 01:01:53 pm
I also believe leftover jelly sandwiches are what has sustained Tom Penders from being jetisoned from the bowels of Barnhill Arena. He's still there, like a phantom, making horrible screaching noises that reverberate into the cold black night, and then crawl out over the hills of south Fayetteville like an evil mist haunting our dreams.


Thanks alot jelly sandwiches!  >:(

Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Grunt on October 15, 2019, 01:10:39 pm
I hope if this decision is made , they decide to play SEC style coach , going to take money 7-10 million , play big or go home
Make that 12m$. Get somebody like Campbell and guarantee him 10 years and stick with him. That's more than three times what Campbell makes now. And hire his wife for the video library or something.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: afhogfan1980 on October 15, 2019, 01:14:31 pm
Viagra is the #1 recreational drug
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: M L (bassplayer) on October 15, 2019, 01:19:49 pm
I hope if this decision is made , they decide to play SEC style coach , going to take money 7-10 million , play big or go home

Oh boy.....
Here we go with the "play big or go home". "7-10 million".
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 15, 2019, 01:21:08 pm
Make that 12m$. Get somebody like Campbell and guarantee him 10 years and stick with him. That's more than three times what Campbell makes now. And hire his wife for the video library or something.


by the way, Iowa State's passing game is ranked 14th in the nation

Campbell is not some Big Ten run game guy like Bielema
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Hogtimes on October 15, 2019, 01:33:10 pm
Make that 12m$. Get somebody like Campbell and guarantee him 10 years and stick with him. That's more than three times what Campbell makes now. And hire his wife for the video library or something.

Yeah.....and give him a $50 million buy out!  Lets not be cheap.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: thebignasty on October 15, 2019, 01:37:45 pm
Campbell would be a walk off grand slam in the bottom of the 9th of game 7 of the world series, when you were down 3.


But it ain't happening.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: phadedhawg on October 15, 2019, 01:44:03 pm
I'm just gonna keep my head down and continue to wallow in my gloom and despair.  I don't dare dream about better things.  Hope is a dangerous thing when you're in the SEC cellar. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 01:52:26 pm
I also believe leftover jelly sandwiches are what has sustained Tom Penders from being jetisoned from the bowels of Barnhill Arena. He's still there, like a phantom, making horrible screaching noises that reverberate into the cold black night, and then crawl out over the hills of south Fayetteville like an evil mist haunting our dreams.


Thanks alot jelly sandwiches!  >:(

Well it seems if any good came out of jellygate it's that the media is not molly coddling this coach like they did CBB. You would have thought after the 16 or 18th game where we clearly ran out of steam in the second half some media member might broach the subject of jellygate in the post game press conference or at any point in his tenure.  "Coach do you think that is is possible anything the players ingested at half time might have caused them to be sluggish in the second half and that is why ______ scored 31 points in the second half while holding us 3 after we went in the locker room tied at 14?"  It would seem like a logical question and one that was never asked.

This time the media is swarming around Morris like vultures.  So perhaps something good did come out of this tragic yet tasty chapter in Razorback history.

From what I'm reading here today it seems some seem to think the ax is going to fall soon.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: NMHawg on October 15, 2019, 01:54:38 pm

by the way, Iowa State's passing game is ranked 14th in the nation

Campbell is not some Big Ten run game guy like Bielema


What was SMUís offense ranked Chadís last year? Asking for a friend....
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 02:00:37 pm

What was SMUís offense ranked Chadís last year? Asking for a friend....

This is Baylor trying to push his agenda on us.

He always picks out some coach no one has ever heard of and start spewing forth statistics about him....the guy never gets a sniff and Baylor pouts until we fire the next coach.

Some things never change.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 02:14:14 pm
.

Are ur sources better than Guvs?

I don't have any sources on this and have heard nothing. I'm just along for the ride.   :D

I'll yield to the OTR and his sources.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: WMHawgfan on October 15, 2019, 02:16:00 pm
Nameless posters quoting unknown sources. What could possibly go wrong?
Brain Stelter can only dream his sources are this reliable.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 15, 2019, 02:18:32 pm
From what I'm reading here today it seems some seem to think the ax is going to fall soon.

Not many at all are in a position to know anything.......but hope is another thing all together......
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 02:22:51 pm
The Morris clown show is making a fool out of Hunter Yuracheck and he probably knows it.

How is the Morris clown show making a fool out of Hunter Yurachek when he had absolutely nothing to do with Chad's hiring??
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 15, 2019, 02:29:28 pm
How is the Morris clown show making a fool out of Hunter Yurachek when he had absolutely nothing to do with Chad's hiring??

You are correct....and in my thinking, that fact might make HY a little less likely to hang on to a coach who is not "his guy".
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PharmacistHog on October 15, 2019, 02:33:17 pm
How is the Morris clown show making a fool out of Hunter Yurachek when he had absolutely nothing to do with Chad's hiring??

He looks like a complete moron if he doesn't send Morris packing.  If Morris gets year three, its putting off the inevitable and it will be on HY's head even if he didn't hire him. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The Kig on October 15, 2019, 02:36:44 pm
looking for a clue as to one of the codes I use to disperse information.

The cipher on that could be as valuable as one for the Voynich Manuscript.  Put it up for bid... you never know.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 02:41:32 pm
He looks like a complete moron if he doesn't send Morris packing.  If Morris gets year three, its putting off the inevitable and it will be on HY's head even if he didn't hire him. 

I seriously doubt that. It's well known that Chad Morris isn't HY's man. He's the BOT's man and they are the ones looking like fools. Since they hired Morris, HY will have to get their okay before he can fire Morris.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hawginbigd1 on October 15, 2019, 02:45:06 pm
I seriously doubt that. It's well known that Chad Morris isn't HY's man. He is Jerry Jones's the BOT's man and they are he is the one looking like a fool. Since he they hired Morris, HY will have to get his their okay before he can fire Morris.
FIFY
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: BroyledNutts on October 15, 2019, 02:47:07 pm
How is the Morris clown show making a fool out of Hunter Yurachek when he had absolutely nothing to do with Chad's hiring??

Guilt by proximity, I would suppose. Morris' woeful job performance is being reflected onto HY, fairly or not.
HY's support of Morris recently, combined with certain statements made, inadvertantly placed himself squarely in the crosshairs of scrutiny.
Colloquially put, s**t usually rolls downhill. With regard to Razorback Football, it rolls uphill.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Grunt on October 15, 2019, 02:49:47 pm
Yeah.....and give him a $50 million buy out!  Lets not be cheap.
I'm thinking no buy out. Just give him 10 years. I think recruits would like that too.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 02:49:50 pm
FIFY

Mike Irwin refuted that Jerry Jones claim last night on his "Ask Mike" segment. He stated the Jerry Jones recommended Chad but applied no pressure whatsoever to get him hired. That hiring was all on the BOT and no one else.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Sivad on October 15, 2019, 02:55:05 pm
How is the Morris clown show making a fool out of Hunter Yurachek when he had absolutely nothing to do with Chad's hiring??
When Hunter Yurachek told everyone at the LRTC that Chad Morris had things headed in the right direction.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 02:59:41 pm
When Hunter Yurachek told everyone at the LRTC that Chad Morris had things headed in the right direction.

His hiring of Muss as men's head basketball coach well counteracted that.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Sivad on October 15, 2019, 03:05:14 pm
His hiring of Muss as men's head basketball coach well counteracted that.
His hiring of Coach Muss was a fine move, perhaps even genius.
But the point was telling everyone Morris has things headed in the right direction is embarrassing for him.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hawginbigd1 on October 15, 2019, 03:10:15 pm
Mike Irwin refuted that Jerry Jones claim last night on his "Ask Mike" segment. He stated the Jerry Jones recommended Chad but applied no pressure whatsoever to get him hired. That hiring was all on the BOT and no one else.
Yeah that is the company line that Mike is referencing. There are probably 4-5 people who know that answer, and all due respect to Mike he's not one of them.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 03:12:24 pm
When Hunter Yurachek told everyone at the LRTC that Chad Morris had things headed in the right direction.
That's his job.  I'm not sure why you are surprised.

HY will say everything is hunky-dory up until the moment Morris is fired.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 15, 2019, 03:16:24 pm
Mike Irwin refuted that Jerry Jones claim last night on his "Ask Mike" segment. He stated the Jerry Jones recommended Chad but applied no pressure whatsoever to get him hired. That hiring was all on the BOT and no one else.
Irwin is wrong. Jerry Jones is the sole reason Morris is here.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 03:18:03 pm
Yeah that is the company line that Mike is referencing. There are probably 4-5 people who know that answer, and all due respect to Mike he's not one of them.

I disagree. Mike is more knowledgeable about the Arkansas football program than you think.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 03:18:49 pm
Irwin is wrong. Jerry Jones is the sole reason Morris is here.

False. Irwin is right. The Morris hire is all on the BOT.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Capt. Hamm on October 15, 2019, 03:25:14 pm
I hope if this decision is made , they decide to play SEC style coach , going to take money 7-10 million , play big or go home
No big name will ever come here, unless he is over the hill.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 15, 2019, 03:26:48 pm
False. Irwin is right. The Morris hire is all on the BOT.
You can believe whatever you want but the Morris hire was all Jerry Jones. Mike Irwin is wrong about this, it is common knowledge it was all Jerry. You and mike are the only guys saying it wasnít. You can believe what you want but you and mike are 100% wrong about this.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 15, 2019, 03:27:38 pm
Mike Irwin refuted that Jerry Jones claim last night on his "Ask Mike" segment. He stated the Jerry Jones recommended Chad but applied no pressure whatsoever to get him hired. That hiring was all on the BOT and no one else.



smh
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 03:27:56 pm
No big name will ever come here, unless he is over the hill.
we may need an over the hill coach.  Someone who has been coaching long enough that he actually knows how to build a solid program.  Once we are back to some level of respectability, we can look at what hot name can take us to the next level.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 03:30:32 pm
You can believe whatever you want but the Morris hire was all Jerry Jones. Mike Irwin is wrong about this, it is common knowledge it was all Jerry. You and mike are the only guys saying it wasnít. You can believe what you want but you and mike are 100% wrong about this.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.

The reality is likely much simpler.  when the gus moon shot fell through, the BOT was scrambling for a back up plan.  Norvell and Leach both were shot down by competing factions leaving Morris who had the Jerry Jones seal of approval.  since nobody had any dirt on Morris, all sides settled for him.

The Idea the JJ ordered the BOT to hire morris is silly.  if he had that power, we would have never offered gus, and Morris wouldn't have been 4th on the list at best.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 03:31:56 pm
You can believe whatever you want but the Morris hire was all Jerry Jones. Mike Irwin is wrong about this, it is common knowledge it was all Jerry. You and mike are the only guys saying it wasnít. You can believe what you want but you and mike are 100% wrong about this.

There are more than just us saying that. You just haven't paid attention. Mike isn't the only one in his profession that has made that statement.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: NaturalStateReb on October 15, 2019, 03:34:26 pm
Mike Irwin refuted that Jerry Jones claim last night on his "Ask Mike" segment. He stated the Jerry Jones recommended Chad but applied no pressure whatsoever to get him hired. That hiring was all on the BOT and no one else.

That's kind of like when you're a kid and your dad "recommends" that you do something.  Sure you could say no, but you'd be a fool to do so.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Martygit on October 15, 2019, 03:34:31 pm
Are in the air.  Heard from a person that knows more than most of us that this thing may change sooner rather than later. 

Hate to go around shooting off my mouth about rumors but this one fellow says Morris is on thinner ice than those three years for sure people think. 

Gonna get ugly the next few weeks.  I followed up and this person has not heard Freezeís name so that may be a classic Arkansas smokescreen.

You're just trying to gin up a 6 page thread to compete with mine about your buddy Houston being inducted into the Hall of Fame last year  - this jealousy of yours sometimes leads you in directions you shouldn't go
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: NaturalStateReb on October 15, 2019, 03:35:29 pm
Only a sith deals in absolutes.

The reality is likely much simpler.  when the gus moon shot fell through, the BOT was scrambling for a back up plan.  Norvell and Leach both were shot down by competing factions leaving Morris who had the Jerry Jones seal of approval.  since nobody had any dirt on Morris, all sides settled for him.

The Idea the JJ ordered the BOT to hire morris is silly.  if he had that power, we would have never offered gus, and Morris wouldn't have been 4th on the list at best.

Plus tons of other schools were also looking for coaches.  Chad Morris doesn't end up on the call sheet at either Arkansas or Ole Miss if there weren't so many other schools ahead of them in line. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Martygit on October 15, 2019, 03:57:01 pm
The fact is that other than a few years with the motorcycle king, this program has stunk since flying the airplane banners and running of Houston Nutt - no good and proven coach wanted to come here when we fired BB so we ended up with CM - so, when we fire him after two years, what coaches who have a proven record are going to want to come here?  You think the same ones who didn't want to come here when we hired CM as a default?  Or any others when they know what a dumpster fire this is?  It's delusional to think we're going to go out and get a big name (or for that matter any name that anyone has heard of) which means we'll be in the same position we are now - and when that coach doesn't win a SEC game for 2 years, then what?

What makes anyone think that we are anymore of an attractive choice for a good coach than we were (weren't) after firing BB and not being able to find anyone to take the job?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: synthartist69 on October 15, 2019, 04:07:44 pm
Maybe the BOT and Boosters are going to take a hard look in the mirror, go back to work to better everyday.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: synthartist69 on October 15, 2019, 04:08:57 pm
That's his job.  I'm not sure why you are surprised.

HY will say everything is hunky-dory up until the moment Morris is fired.
  Exactly, he basically said the same thing about MA.... said he is the guy and has his support 100%.. then fired him a month later
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: synthartist69 on October 15, 2019, 04:10:06 pm
The fact is that other than a few years with the motorcycle king, this program has stunk since flying the airplane banners and running of Houston Nutt - no good and proven coach wanted to come here when we fired BB so we ended up with CM - so, when we fire him after two years, what coaches who have a proven record are going to want to come here?  You think the same ones who didn't want to come here when we hired CM as a default?  Or any others when they know what a dumpster fire this is?  It's delusional to think we're going to go out and get a big name (or for that matter any name that anyone has heard of) which means we'll be in the same position we are now - and when that coach doesn't win a SEC game for 2 years, then what?   
What makes anyone think that we are anymore of an attractive choice for a good coach than we were (weren't) after firing BB and not being able to find anyone to take the job?

Wrong... they will go back and watch the games that CM coached and realize the problem is with Morris, not the players, not the fans.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Martygit on October 15, 2019, 04:12:01 pm
Wrong... they will go back and watch the games that CM coached and realize the problem is with Morris, not the players, not the fans.

Delusional, just like most on here
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 15, 2019, 04:18:09 pm

What makes anyone think that we are anymore of an attractive choice for a good coach than we were (weren't) after firing BB and not being able to find anyone to take the job?

Leach wanted the job.......I bet he would be better than 4-14 right now.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: B Ray on October 15, 2019, 04:27:23 pm
Make that 12m$. Get somebody like Campbell and guarantee him 10 years and stick with him. That's more than three times what Campbell makes now. And hire his wife for the video library or something.
Saban is making 12 million , I think 12 might be a stretch ...
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: FineAsSwine on October 15, 2019, 04:29:14 pm
we may need an over the hill coach.  Someone who has been coaching long enough that he actually knows how to build a solid program.  Once we are back to some level of respectability, we can look at what hot name can take us to the next level.

Bill Snyder might have a couple of years left in the tank.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 04:29:30 pm
Make that 12m$. Get somebody like Campbell and guarantee him 10 years and stick with him. That's more than three times what Campbell makes now. And hire his wife for the video library or something.
can we please stop guaranteeing coaches XX years?

that is what got us in this mess.  how about a coach earns the benefit of the doubt first.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: B Ray on October 15, 2019, 04:30:23 pm
Oh boy.....
Here we go with the "play big or go home". "7-10 million".
So what do you recommend ,another up and comer ..
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GTOWNHOG on October 15, 2019, 04:32:10 pm
Gene Chizik is available.  He won a a National Championship at Auburn.
Broyles Award (2004)
SEC Coach of the Year (AP) (2010)
Home Depot Coach of the Year Award (2010)
Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year Award (2010)
Paul "Bear" Bryant Award (2010)
Bobby Bowden National Collegiate Coach of the Year Award (2010)
Amos Alonzo Stagg Coaching Award (2011)  ;D
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: B Ray on October 15, 2019, 04:32:57 pm
No big name will ever come here, unless he is over the hill.
You are probably correct , doesnít hurt to try and get a big name , just keep going down the list
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Godfather on October 15, 2019, 04:34:22 pm
How about we guarantee that if you get 0 wins in conference you are fired for cause with no golden parachute...
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: BadHog on October 15, 2019, 04:35:32 pm
Winter is coming.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 04:41:36 pm
How about we guarantee that if you get 0 wins in conference you are fired for cause with no golden parachute...
The only coach that would agree to that is someone who is desperate and otherwise unemployable.  The market dictates contracts.  It sucks, but its the cost of doing business.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: liljo on October 15, 2019, 04:45:10 pm
LOL!

Yeah, I agree Coach Morris has to go at this point. I don't see any way in hell he can ever win back this fanbase. If by some mystical magical thing the team started winning tomorrow, in two years people would still be cussin' 'bout the SJS game.

I may be the only one here of the camp that says, "We are NEVER going to win big again, EVER, not next year, 5 years from now, not ever, as long as we are in the SECw--on any consistent basis." No matter who we throw millions at. Bring anybody in here. ANYBODY! 7-8 wins a year over a 6 year average would be incredible, with a 10-3, 11-2 season being an absolute twice in 15 years type thing.

Don't matter to me any more. I won't live to see it.

You younger folks around here, enjoy a long life of disgruntled fandom, and watching coach after coach and "rebuild" attempt (indicating it was actually at one time built) after another.

Adios.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: liljo on October 15, 2019, 04:56:36 pm
Leach wanted the job.......I bet he would be better than 4-14 right now.
You're right about one thing. I don't know how much he really wanted the job--maybe so, but I'd agree with the record.

Leach would be, right now, probably sitting right at 6-12. And, by now, there would be fans spewin' on HV and radio, and anywhere else fans have a voice that it was stupid to have hired him, and that would intensify over the next two games as Leach led the Hogs to a couple of absolute embarrassing blowout losses to Auburn and Alabama.

But I have no doubt he'd have figured out a way to beat Colorado State last year, and SJS this year. Other than that...nah, losses by different scores is all.

To you naysayers I say, You Got No Proof. NONE. ZERO whatsoever. Zilch. I'm just as "right" as you are.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: 247Hog on October 15, 2019, 05:00:59 pm
You're right about one thing. I don't know how much he really wanted the job--maybe so, but I'd agree with the record.

Leach would be, right now, probably sitting right at 6-12. And, by now, there would be fans spewin' on HV and radio, and anywhere else fans have a voice that it was stupid to have hired him, and that would intensify over the next two games as Leach led the Hogs to a couple of absolute embarrassing blowout losses to Auburn and Alabama.

But I have no doubt he'd have figured out a way to beat Colorado State last year, and SJS this year. Other than that...nah, losses by different scores is all.

To you naysayers I say, You Got No Proof. NONE. ZERO whatsoever. Zilch. I'm just as "right" as you are.

Okay?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 15, 2019, 05:01:21 pm
The fact is that other than a few years with the motorcycle king, this program has stunk since flying the airplane banners and running of Houston Nutt - no good and proven coach wanted to come here when we fired BB so we ended up with CM - so, when we fire him after two years, what coaches who have a proven record are going to want to come here?  You think the same ones who didn't want to come here when we hired CM as a default?  Or any others when they know what a dumpster fire this is?  It's delusional to think we're going to go out and get a big name (or for that matter any name that anyone has heard of) which means we'll be in the same position we are now - and when that coach doesn't win a SEC game for 2 years, then what?

What makes anyone think that we are anymore of an attractive choice for a good coach than we were (weren't) after firing BB and not being able to find anyone to take the job?
Even if this is true(itís not) that is still no excuse to keep this clown show going.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: BroyledNutts on October 15, 2019, 05:12:45 pm
The fact is that other than a few years with the motorcycle king, this program has stunk since flying the airplane banners and running of Houston Nutt - no good and proven coach wanted to come here when we fired BB so we ended up with CM - so, when we fire him after two years, what coaches who have a proven record are going to want to come here?  You think the same ones who didn't want to come here when we hired CM as a default?  Or any others when they know what a dumpster fire this is?  It's delusional to think we're going to go out and get a big name (or for that matter any name that anyone has heard of) which means we'll be in the same position we are now - and when that coach doesn't win a SEC game for 2 years, then what?

What makes anyone think that we are anymore of an attractive choice for a good coach than we were (weren't) after firing BB and not being able to find anyone to take the job?

So what do you suggest be done?
I have no idea what will turn this program. To even marginal performance. If you have ideas please share them.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Martygit on October 15, 2019, 05:29:12 pm
So what do you suggest be done?
I have no idea what will turn this program. To even marginal performance. If you have ideas please share them.

The fact is that any coach who comes here, including CM, is going to have to be given at least 5 years before deciding to get rid of him - you simply can't expect a coach to turn this mess around in 2 years and you really don't know what that coach is capable of for another 3 years after that - No one wants to hear that but if you continue to fire coaches before their contract ends because of their record you're only going to have a bunch of multi-million buy-outs and another coach who can't things done - I'm not saying CM is the answer - he may not be and I have no reason to think that he is - but you've got to stay with someone long enough to intelligently evaluate his performance - 2 years is not long enough - I'm not a CM lover and I sure wish that we had been able to get a big hire when we fired BB - but there's conversation within the coaching community and most big time coaches want nothing to do with what goes on here - would I love to see Urban Myer or Leach here?  Sure (although I realize that the powers that be would have neither of them) - and, maybe they'd come - I don't know - all I know is that since Houston Nutt we have had a real problem with putting a good product on the field except for the BP short-lived era, but to me that was an aberration in the sense that he wanted to get away from pro-football (maybe just the Flacons) - but he was toxic and it came back to bite us in the butt - IMHO, in what we should do now is just sit back, lick our wounds, realize that we're going to get beat by what we consider to be inferior programs and hopefully wait for the success which should come down the road - if it doesn't get better within the next 3 years, then fire him and try to find someone else - at least by then the coaches out there who might consider us will realize that we will give them a fair opportunity

I'm just as butthurt as anyone else - I hate this for the school that I went to for 7 years and team that I have been sitting in the stands since the 1950's (and was a Broyles/Matthews contributor for several years during that time) - but you have to be logical about what to do at this point - and, I don't think there's much logical thinking going on here




Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hawginbigd1 on October 15, 2019, 05:37:17 pm
You are the one that is delusional, nobody is expecting Rome, but let's try to move to the looking competent realm. We haven't under this coach.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: drocktulsa on October 15, 2019, 05:45:45 pm
His hiring of Muss as men's head basketball coach well counteracted that.

His hiring of Coach Muss was a fine move, perhaps even genius.
But the point was telling everyone Morris has things headed in the right direction is embarrassing for him.


Don't get me wrong, I'm pumped about Musselman. He's saying all the right things, and I like his philosophy.

But we have to cool our jets -- he hasn't even coached one game here, let alone a season.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: 31to6 on October 15, 2019, 05:48:41 pm
Plus tons of other schools were also looking for coaches.  Chad Morris doesn't end up on the call sheet at either Arkansas or Ole Miss if there weren't so many other schools ahead of them in line. 
The possibilities open up if the Brain Trust doesn't sit around like acolytes waiting for St. Gus to bless them.

The timing was completely hosed by Gus' maneuvering for a better contract out of Auburn. Indeed, not only did that hurt the hiring process but it also put the new staff behind the chains in their first recruiting class.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GuvHog on October 15, 2019, 05:49:46 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm pumped about Musselman. He's saying all the right things, and I like his philosophy.

But we have to cool our jets -- he hasn't even coached one game here, let alone a season.

Agreed, but he sure is kickin' butt in recruiting.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Sivad on October 15, 2019, 05:51:51 pm
Agreed, but he sure is kickin' butt in recruiting.
And unlike Chad Morris - he and his family have really embraced the state.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: VanBurenCHog on October 15, 2019, 05:58:34 pm
Agreed, but he sure is kickin' butt in recruiting.
signed 1 guy lol while Mike Anderson has signed 4 and has a loaded class coming, donít get me wrong I like muss but saying heís kicking butt in recruiting would be false
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Martygit on October 15, 2019, 06:08:37 pm
You are the one that is delusional, nobody is expecting Rome, but let's try to move to the looking competent realm. We haven't under this coach.

While I don't think that this challenge has any chance of surviving  the next couple of years, come back to me in 2022 and let's talk about where the program is versus now - assuming that CM is still our coach - if not, extend that timeline 5 years beyond whatever the first year of whatever coach survives at least 5 years is
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 15, 2019, 06:16:38 pm
Irwin is wrong. Jerry Jones is the sole reason Morris is here.
No he's not wrong. Like before Jerry put Morris in play as we were looking like the court Jestures in the search. We allowed Malazahn to play us way to long and had to much info on that deal out there in the open and were striking out. Gundy,no; Patterson,no; Peterson to Washington..... Norvel in the strip clubs rumor.....Interim pushing harrrrrdddd for Kiffin.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hoglady on October 15, 2019, 06:51:45 pm
No he's not wrong. Like before Jerry put Morris in play as we were looking like the court Jestures in the search. We allowed Malazahn to play us way to long and had to much info on that deal out there in the open and were striking out. Gundy,no; Patterson,no; Peterson to Washington..... Norvel in the strip clubs rumor.....Interim pushing harrrrrdddd for Kiffin.

Then they screwed up not listening to the interim pushing hard for Kiffin.
I doubt we'd be in the horrible shape we're in with Kiffin.
Some like him, some don't - but he does have a level of success and competence that Morris doesn't have.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 15, 2019, 07:35:52 pm
Then they screwed up not listening to the interim pushing hard for Kiffin.
I doubt we'd be in the horrible shape we're in with Kiffin.
Some like him, some don't - but he does have a level of success and competence that Morris doesn't have.
I can't argue with anything you said.
I can also respond to statements a few pages back about the need for the right people to get mad and on the line of withholding money. There are plenty of the right heavy hitters angry bout all this. Remember the minor civil war with the Little Rock investors and Scanlon and all that nastiness that went on back when Long was canned. Same dumb crap is prolly brewing right now. Some one of all that bunch needs to take care of the business end of contracting and dealing with agents this time.I wish I knew where that crew stood on all this. My hopes are; no malzahn, no up n comer, only one coordinator considered. Must have been at a p5 school preferably from the south, connections to Texas, no cheap outs here as we gotta get this right. If 6your willing to give Malzahn 7 mil then make some waves with an offer to the big names out there. Make em say no.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: moses_007 on October 15, 2019, 07:59:11 pm
Urban Meyer is gonna  be Chad's replacement. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 15, 2019, 08:05:31 pm
Urban Meyer is gonna  be Chad's replacement. 

Source??
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 15, 2019, 08:06:00 pm
His hiring of Coach Muss was a fine move, perhaps even genius.
But the point was telling everyone Morris has things headed in the right direction is embarrassing for him.

No it isn't embarrassing for him. So did you expect him to say "Chad is stinking it up, I'll fire him at the end of the year". That would be both embarrassing and unprofessional.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: SeldomHere on October 15, 2019, 08:14:21 pm
Urban Meyer is gonna  be Chad's replacement. 

Will he give back that win he stole in the Sugar Bowl?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GA reddiehog on October 15, 2019, 08:20:00 pm
Will he give back that win he stole in the Sugar Bowl?
Wrong coach, you would need to take that up with JT.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 15, 2019, 08:22:32 pm
I don't have any sources on this and have heard nothing. I'm just along for the ride.   :D

I'll yield to the OTR and his sources.

This is the first time Iíve agreed with you on anything. Ever. Probably will be another 52k posts and Halleyís Comet returning before another one comes along too. So, well done Guv.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 08:27:29 pm
This is the first time Iíve agreed with you on anything. Ever. Probably will be another 52k posts and Halleyís Comet returning before another one comes along too. So, well done Guv.

Iím honored and humbled that Guv is deferring to me on this matter. 

Because of that I will not post the rather surprising rumor I heard today. Too much respect for the board and Guv to do anything like that. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 15, 2019, 08:27:45 pm
I can do that as they are frantically pouring over information I spewed out during other coaching changes as they are somewhat in the dark as to what might happen and are looking for a clue as to one of the codes I use to disperse information.

One of the worst kept secrets in Razorback sports history is Jellygate.  CBB believed that his boys needed a snack at halftime. I am guessing but I'd say it's a pretty good guess that CBB, Sam Pittman, and Jim Chaney cooked up this one in a late night strategy session over pulled pork sandwiches in CBB's office.  That makes sense as all three seem like the type that might not be able to go 3 and a half hours without a snack.

So throughout the CBB era we went into halftime and ate jelly sandwiches. There was much debate here on the verities of how that nutrition affected our players' performance.  While no scientific study was ever conducted on our players the only evidence we had of whether or not that the jelly was working or not was the results on the field. Countless second half meltdowns seemed to indicate that perhaps the jelly sandwiches were having an adverse effect on performance.  I pleaded with various media members to ask post game questions about jelly sandwiches but my requests fell on deaf media ears.

This is still a riddle shrouded in mystery as no one is certain how many sandwiches were eaten by players or if there ever any talk, after the 10th or so meltdown, but maybe we should try gatorade and orange slices instead. 

Jellygate is a black cloud over the program. I personally consider it the major factor in our program's demise.  We are still trying to recover from jellygate.  Lots of folks to blame on this one. 

Good read here, folks. I have no doubts the jelly sandwich era will go down in  UofA lore just as much as Pradeep Dikshitís name on senior walk, Hologram Tom Penders and Darrell Royalís Floating Flaming Fulminating Spectral Head haunting Barnhill, and the various sight and sounds of the UofA tunnel system.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Leadbelly on October 15, 2019, 08:29:33 pm
Urban Meyer is gonna  be Chad's replacement.
Yeah. And Lou Holtz will be his OC and Jimmy Johnson his DC.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 15, 2019, 08:32:02 pm
Yeah. And Lou Holtz will be his OC and Jimmy Johnson his DC.


Leadbelly, what do you think about this OP getting our hopes up in this thread?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 15, 2019, 08:35:02 pm
I also believe leftover jelly sandwiches are what has sustained Tom Penders from being jetisoned from the bowels of Barnhill Arena. He's still there, like a phantom, making horrible screaching noises that reverberate into the cold black night, and then crawl out over the hills of south Fayetteville like an evil mist haunting our dreams.


Thanks alot jelly sandwiches!  >:(



Another good piece of jelly sandwich lore info here, folks. Very few here can rival Rudyís knowledge of the UofA and broader NWA area. Probably has more details on the UofA tunnel system than those that built em.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: thebignasty on October 15, 2019, 08:38:23 pm
Someone ought to get ahold of Sean Salisbury and figure out what his opinion on the potential upcoming coaching search is.  Might have valuable insight on the candidates.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: jchill on October 15, 2019, 08:43:55 pm
On the Zach and Ruskin show a guy called today and said that he worked at the university.  He didnít say in what capacity or where he worked.  But he said the internal scuttlebut is that HY has seen enough and that short of winning out, there isnít much that Morris can do to save his job.


HY fired a coach who never had a losing record, so I am pretty sure he's going to pull the trigger pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 08:53:28 pm
OTR,

I'm curious if you have heard whispers that Lou Ferrigno is on the short list to replace Morris.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 08:53:44 pm
Good read here, folks. I have no doubts the jelly sandwich era will go down in  UofA lore just as much as Pradeep Dikshitís name on senior walk, Hologram Tom Penders and Darrell Royalís Floating Flaming Fulminating Spectral Head haunting Barnhill, and the various sight and sounds of the UofA tunnel system.

Boardon you were one of the only people that understood the magnitude of jellygate as it was happening. Like with most things on here you were on top of this when others just didnít seem to think there was much going on. 

Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 15, 2019, 08:54:32 pm
Urban Meyer is gonna  be Chad's replacement. 

I saw Urban Meyer at the Home Depot in Rogers 30 minutes ago. He had the red fall lawn food bag of Scottís Turf Builder in his cart. I think the red Scottís bag is more of a USC red than an Arkansas cardinal unfortunately. I didnít think to ask why he was buying it here though. Maybe when we get to yellow bag season, Iíll see him again and ask why heís in the area.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 08:57:39 pm
OTR,

I'm curious if you have heard whispers that Lou Ferrigno is on the short list to replace Morris.

Lou will be celebrating his 68th birthday November 9th.  Would be nice if he would be named head coach on his birthday.

Not saying that is going to happen but Lou could bring some much needed credibility to the program. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 09:02:30 pm
Lou will be celebrating his 68th birthday November 9th.  Would be nice if he would be named head coach on his birthday.

Not saying that is going to happen but Lou could bring some much needed credibility to the program. 
They say he ruled Hollywood with an iron fist.  I think this program could use some toughening up.  Jelly sandwiches would be the least of the teams worries with Lou at the helm.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Leadbelly on October 15, 2019, 09:06:55 pm

Leadbelly, what do you think about this OP getting our hopes up in this thread?
I think the time for a change has come. CMM is in over his head. That being said, Arkansas isnít where UM is going to coach next. Why would he? What, three national titles? Many conference championships, Florida, OSU and Arkansas? Which one of those schools doesnít fit? Same with stoops, why would he?
Yeah, offer them $10 million a year and be ready to move on.
To answer your question, my hopes are high for a change and I think it will come. Coaching search, Iím pumped!
I hope HY has the authority to go get his guy and not have to go thru the GOBN.
My list:
Norvell
Kiffin
Richt ( although I put him near the UM/BS canít get)
Gundy
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Leadbelly on October 15, 2019, 09:09:58 pm
OTR,

I'm curious if you have heard whispers that Lou Ferrigno is on the short list to replace Morris.
If itís going to be a Lou, make it Holtz!
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 15, 2019, 09:10:59 pm
If itís going to be a Lou, make it Holtz!
Holtz and Ferrigno should arm wrestle to decide.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 15, 2019, 09:13:01 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm pumped about Musselman. He's saying all the right things, and I like his philosophy.

But we have to cool our jets -- he hasn't even coached one game here, let alone a season.
Muss has 20+ years of experience and turned Nevada around immediately, heís going to win and win big here, guaranteed. Heís gonna be on the same level as Nolan and Eddie by the time he retires here.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 15, 2019, 09:21:21 pm
I saw Urban Meyer at the Home Depot in Rogers 30 minutes ago. He had the red fall lawn food bag of Scottís Turf Builder in his cart. I think the red Scottís bag is more of a USC red than an Arkansas cardinal unfortunately. I didnít think to ask why he was buying it here though. Maybe when we get to yellow bag season, Iíll see him again and ask why heís in the area.


excellent

we'll get him involved with the Bariola's happy hour mafia next door
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Rudy Baylor on October 15, 2019, 09:23:43 pm
I think the time for a change has come. CMM is in over his head. That being said, Arkansas isnít where UM is going to coach next. Why would he? What, three national titles? Many conference championships, Florida, OSU and Arkansas? Which one of those schools doesnít fit? Same with stoops, why would he?
Yeah, offer them $10 million a year and be ready to move on.
To answer your question, my hopes are high for a change and I think it will come. Coaching search, Iím pumped!
I hope HY has the authority to go get his guy and not have to go thru the GOBN.
My list:
Norvell
Kiffin
Richt ( although I put him near the UM/BS canít get)
Gundy


Spot on. I think OTR making folks believe he's got inside information on Urban Meyer is a violation of the rules of this message board and should at least be met with a minimal length ban, like a month or two.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 09:42:37 pm
Urban isnít coming here.  Iíve heard Grundy is ready to make a move now that Pickens has passed.  Have heard a couple of other names.  But did hear Grundy today.  May take a man to take on this big pile of stinking mess we have up there and we all know Grundy is a man.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: drocktulsa on October 15, 2019, 10:02:13 pm
we may need an over the hill coach.  Someone who has been coaching long enough that he actually knows how to build a solid program.  Once we are back to some level of respectability, we can look at what hot name can take us to the next level.

Well that's what we have with Chavis with our DC, and our defensive scheme is stuck in the 90s.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: hobhog on October 15, 2019, 10:04:54 pm
Urban isnít coming here.  Iíve heard Grundy is ready to make a move now that Pickens has passed.  Have heard a couple of other names.  But did hear Grundy today.  May take a man to take on this big pile of stinking mess we have up there and we all know Grundy is a man.

I've heard and they say. Sold.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 15, 2019, 10:14:42 pm
I've heard and they say. Sold.

Youíre up late hanging on every word for a doubting Thomas.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Muleriderhog on October 15, 2019, 10:17:05 pm
signed 1 guy lol while Mike Anderson has signed 4 and has a loaded class coming, donít get me wrong I like muss but saying heís kicking butt in recruiting would be false
Anderson has 2 commits that are average. What are you talking about? Muss is getting guys to visit that werenít even considering Arkansas when Anderson was here. This is insane, muss is 50x the recruiter Anderson is.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Formula Hog on October 15, 2019, 10:23:21 pm
Gundy?
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GTOWNHOG on October 15, 2019, 11:03:42 pm
Gundy?

Yep, Mr. Mullett. WE have reached the bottom of the barrel.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: HogFan4Eva on October 15, 2019, 11:04:58 pm
Urban isnít coming here.  Iíve heard Grundy is ready to make a move now that Pickens has passed.  Have heard a couple of other names.  But did hear Grundy today.  May take a man to take on this big pile of stinking mess we have up there and we all know Grundy is a man.
What other names did you hear? Would love to have Gundy but he did burn us once and has flirted a lot with leaving.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: LumberBacks on October 15, 2019, 11:58:23 pm
What other names did you hear? Would love to have Gundy but he did burn us once and has flirted a lot with leaving.
He is talking about GRundy - that's Gundy's wife's sister's cousin's aunt's former roommate.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: SooieGeneris on October 16, 2019, 01:29:41 am
Urban isnít coming here. Iíve heard Grundy is ready to make a move now that Pickens has passed.  Have heard a couple of other names.  But did hear Grundy today.  May take a man to take on this big pile of stinking mess we have up there and we all know Grundy is a man.

He's a man, but he's not 40 any more.

As for the Pickens thing, I always heard from Okie Lite people that he and Pickens didn't get along, barely even spoke to one another. They said Pickens was the reason Gundy considered leaving in the first place..
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 16, 2019, 06:38:24 am
He's a man, but he's not 40 any more.

As for the Pickens thing, I always heard from Okie Lite people that he and Pickens didn't get along, barely even spoke to one another. They said Pickens was the reason Gundy considered leaving in the first place..

He doesnít get along with most people.  Grundy needs a change of scenery. 

In other news I heard from someone who talked to Gus that he said he wants to hang a 50 burger on Arkansas this week.  Heís spiteful.  I think we all know that. 
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 16, 2019, 06:42:22 am
He doesnít get along with most people.  Grundy needs a change of scenery. 

In other news I heard from someone who talked to Gus that he said he wants to hang a 50 burger on Arkansas this week.  Heís spiteful.  I think we all know that. 

Thatís nothing new...Heís hung 50 on us 2 of the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: LZH on October 16, 2019, 06:49:01 am
Well if we are losing recruits anyway have Lunney come in as the interim. Then let HY work his magic like he did in basketball.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 16, 2019, 07:31:44 am
My thoughts exactly.

We are about to really get beaten up the next two weeks.  I hope we donít get anyone severely injured because we are going to be out matched probably unlike anything weíve ever seen before.  So itís about to get worse.  Not sure firing the coach helps that. Not saying it couldnít happen but seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: liljo on October 16, 2019, 08:40:57 am
We are about to really get beaten up the next two weeks.  I hope we donít get anyone severely injured because we are going to be out matched probably unlike anything weíve ever seen before.  So itís about to get worse.  Not sure firing the coach helps that. Not saying it couldnít happen but seems unlikely.
We usually stay healthy in the games in which we don't block or tackle anyone. So, I look for us to come out of the Auburn-Alabama games in probably the best health we've had since pre-season. Should have everyone back for Mississippi State.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: ArkieBacon on October 16, 2019, 10:27:51 am
Play two hand touch fooball against Auburn and Alabama. Make them look like jerks for blowing us out.
100% healthy team for MSU.
I'm in!
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: WizardofhOgZ on October 16, 2019, 12:45:48 pm
Source??


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Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: cram224 on October 16, 2019, 03:48:17 pm
Why don't we pull a Dana Holgram, sp, Houston. Hold out our best players until the games get winnable.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: pigheaded on October 16, 2019, 06:56:58 pm
Urban Meyer is gonna  be Chad's replacement. Yeah. And Lou Holtz will be his OC and Jimmy Johnson his DC.

Promise
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: dsf on October 16, 2019, 07:16:11 pm
The only coach that would agree to that is someone who is desperate and otherwise unemployable.  The market dictates contracts.  It sucks, but its the cost of doing business.
Nutt
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: dsf on October 16, 2019, 07:19:23 pm
signed 1 guy lol while Mike Anderson has signed 4 and has a loaded class coming, donít get me wrong I like muss but saying heís kicking butt in recruiting would be false
Actually, MA has two below average recruits...
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on October 16, 2019, 07:43:48 pm
signed 1 guy lol while Mike Anderson has signed 4 and has a loaded class coming, donít get me wrong I like muss but saying heís kicking butt in recruiting would be false

Letís try to keep the thread on target. Everyone who is anyone is discussing the possibility of Grundy ditching his Okie Light Orange for some good old Arkansas cardinal. Then we have you and Guv yammering about the recruiting prowess of Muss and MA. Yíall go take that stuff into the basketball recruiting forum or wrassle talk, put it in mobile view, and have yourselves a swell time. The rest of us are going to get back to Grundy. Itís not in my nature to be this way, but dammit yíall needed to be slapped a couple times with a rolled up, wet, Sunday New York Times.

Actually, MA has two below average recruits...

Same thing goes for this kind of rabble rousing.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: The OTR on October 16, 2019, 08:24:41 pm
Gus is considering this a homecoming of sorts for him.  A victory lap if you will.  First time back in town in a while.  Iím already sick of all this 50 burger talk. 

He played us like a fiddle and then talked up Morris.  I guess he deserves a victory lap around the stadium.  I wish we still had the helmet they used to drive around.  Would love to see that thing chase him around the field and that be his victory lap

Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: PorkSoda on October 16, 2019, 08:28:06 pm
Gus is considering this a homecoming of sorts for him.  A victory lap if you will.  First time back in town in a while.  Iím already sick of all this 50 burger talk. 

He played us like a fiddle and then talked up Morris.  I guess he deserves a victory lap around the stadium.  I wish we still had the helmet they used to drive around.  Would love to see that thing chase him around the field and that be his victory lap
Considering how the whole Gus thing went down, I think HY could round up a posse of disgruntled fans, dress them in razorback uniforms and send them out to beat auburn.

Let Morris and the team go get some jelly sandwiches and watch the game.
Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: snoblind on October 16, 2019, 10:16:17 pm

Let's not forget that Odell led a "support Chad rally" at Lot 46 tonight, and the only person who showed up was Odell

He sent me a pic of you showing up with your cheerleader friends

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Title: Re: Boys the winds of change
Post by: GTOWNHOG on October 18, 2019, 04:21:07 pm
The fact is that any coach who comes here, including CM, is going to have to be given at least 5 years before deciding to get rid of him - you simply can't expect a coach to turn this mess around in 2 years and you really don't know what that coach is capable of for another 3 years after that - No one wants to hear that but if you continue to fire coaches before their contract ends because of their record you're only going to have a bunch of multi-million buy-outs and another coach who can't things done - I'm not saying CM is the answer - he may not be and I have no reason to think that he is - but you've got to stay with someone long enough to intelligently evaluate his performance - 2 years is not long enough - I'm not a CM lover and I sure wish that we had been able to get a big hire when we fired BB - but there's conversation within the coaching community and most big time coaches want nothing to do with what goes on here - would I love to see Urban Myer or Leach here?  Sure (although I realize that the powers that be would have neither of them) - and, maybe they'd come - I don't know - all I know is that since Houston Nutt we have had a real problem with putting a good product on the field except for the BP short-lived era, but to me that was an aberration in the sense that he wanted to get away from pro-football (maybe just the Flacons) - but he was toxic and it came back to bite us in the butt - IMHO, in what we should do now is just sit back, lick our wounds, realize that we're going to get beat by what we consider to be inferior programs and hopefully wait for the success which should come down the road - if it doesn't get better within the next 3 years, then fire him and try to find someone else - at least by then the coaches out there who might consider us will realize that we will give them a fair opportunity

I'm just as butthurt as anyone else - I hate this for the school that I went to for 7 years and team that I have been sitting in the stands since the 1950's (and was a Broyles/Matthews contributor for several years during that time) - but you have to be logical about what to do at this point - and, I don't think there's much logical thinking going on here

I could not say it any better.  I attended my first Razorback game in 1960.  I was in Razorback Stadium on December 6, 1969 as a freshman at Arkansas.  It is really hard to watch this.  However, Chad Morris deserves a chance.  If he can't get it done during his 5 year contract, then we will make a change and start over.  It's very painful to watch.