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Tejano Jawg

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2019, 11:32:44 pm »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.



OK, I'll make a bold answer…the first six.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2019, 07:46:45 am »

Man, beginning of February and we're already justifying 8 wins.
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Superhog1959

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2019, 07:58:52 am »

OK, I'll make a bold answer…the first six.
Things go well and we improve, I could see the first 4 and the 2 Kentuckys. After the first 4 games we will know how things are going to go. Maybe not just for this year but years to come.
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Superhog1959

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2019, 08:29:11 am »

I mean we may have hired the wrong guy. I personally don’t think so but I don’t think that if we don’t win 6 next year, then that determines whether Morris is the right guy or not.
I agree. I don't know how many wins determines what. I do think the product we see on the field in the first 4 games will tell a tail. If its not better than last year, the dogs will start to howl.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2019, 09:17:35 am »

If the Ags beat us again, that makes 8 in a row. I really want to beat them before they make it a decade straight.

Agree, The odds have got to go our way one time. Not like A&M was/is that much better.
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Polecat

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2019, 09:21:12 am »

The bigger question: Name the 6 teams we will beat.



the first four and 2 of the last 3
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2019, 09:58:27 am »

Man, beginning of February and we're already justifying 8 wins.
I only see seven, but it's early!

Smithian

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2019, 10:10:34 am »

The easiest time for a coach to recruit is his first offseason when arrives and then the offseason after when he can still sell hope.

I think our recruiting right now may be the best that it gets barring improved on field results. I do think if Chad Mooris eventually tore off a ten win season that he'd translate it to recruiting better than Petrino ever did.

But it we go from 2-10 to 6-6 I'll be happy however recruiting turns out.
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HogPharmer

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2019, 10:11:44 am »

Man, beginning of February and we're already justifying 8 wins.

I don't see why we can't win 10
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2019, 10:24:13 am »

Portland State
Colorado Stare
San Jose State
Mississippi State
Western Kentucky
Missouri
In other words all the so called cupcakes.

HogPharmer

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2019, 10:28:22 am »

In other words all the so called cupcakes..... and two teams ranked in the Top 25 going into bowl season last year

FIFY
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2019, 10:33:24 am »

FIFY
I can't take anything someone that calls himself "okra zorback" seriously.   ::)

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2019, 10:36:47 am »

FIFY

I do not understand the disregard for Mississippi State and Mizzou every year on this board.
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HogPharmer

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2019, 10:43:39 am »

I can't take anything someone that calls himself "okra zorback" seriously.   ::)

I think it's supposed to be OK Razorback... as in "OK Razorbacks, try not to suck this year"
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2019, 10:44:53 am »

I do not understand the disregard for Mississippi State and Mizzou every year on this board.
Because they don't belong on the same playing field!  They are inferior to us in every aspect of the game -










except the scoreboard, lately.


Are we clear?   >:(
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2019, 10:49:30 am »

Because they don't belong on the same playing field!  They are inferior to us in every aspect of the game -






except the scoreboard, lately.


Are we clear?   >:(

Yes :(

1-4 against Mizzou since they joined the SEC and 3-6 against Mississippi State this decade. A whoppin' 4-10 combined!

But they should be auto-wins!

woodhog14

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2019, 10:52:11 am »

On another note-- what an atrocious schedule. 
It would have been a good one had Michigan not dropped us. They would have been in Fayetteville this year.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2019, 11:08:04 am »

Yes :(

1-4 against Mizzou since they joined the SEC and 3-6 against Mississippi State this decade. A whoppin' 4-10 combined!

But they should be auto-wins!

I'm not labeling any conference games as automatic wins this year but I do believe the possibility is there for the Hogs to win 2 and maybe 3 conference games.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2019, 12:33:09 pm »

Theoretically, we COULD go 8-4 is all the timber falls on our side of the hill.. we win all 4 non-conference games.. finally get over the hump on atm, beat ole miss, beat kentucky, beat mizzou... I really even think auburn, state, and lsu will be beatable but i figure we’ll lose our fair share.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2019, 12:36:23 pm »

Theoretically, we COULD go 8-4 is all the timber falls on our side of the hill.. we win all 4 non-conference games.. finally get over the hump on atm, beat ole miss, beat kentucky, beat mizzou... I really even think auburn, state, and lsu will be beatable but i figure we’ll lose our fair share.

Hell, might as well snap that Alabama losing streak while we're at it.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2019, 12:37:21 pm »

Hell, might as well snap that Alabama losing streak while we're at it.
Get real!   >:(  11-1 is the best we can hope for!   ::)
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2019, 12:42:03 pm »

Yes :(

1-4 against Mizzou since they joined the SEC and 3-6 against Mississippi State this decade. A whoppin' 4-10 combined!

But they should be auto-wins!

I don't think many were disregarding State when Dak was on the campus for them. I've personally had a lot of respect for them in the Dak-Fitz era.
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hawg1221

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2019, 12:46:24 pm »

Hell, might as well snap that Alabama losing streak while we're at it.

I like that positive attitude you have!

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2019, 12:59:56 pm »

just get to 6
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HogPharmer

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2019, 01:02:20 pm »

Hell, might as well snap that Alabama losing streak while we're at it.

Natty or bust!

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2019, 01:05:19 pm »

The oldest trap in fandom is on display.  We will be better and throw out reasons why everyone else will be worse.

HogPharmer

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2019, 01:55:35 pm »

The oldest trap in fandom is on display.  We will be better and throw out reasons why everyone else will be worse.

Mizzou will definitely be worse. Drew Lock had a much better arm than KB has.... so obviously they're gonna suck. Meanwhile, we're upgrading at QB from what we did have.



Is that how it works?

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2019, 01:58:25 pm »

Lol, no
we just signed 16 that are a 4* on one sight or another, BRUH
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2019, 01:59:24 pm »

Man, beginning of February and we're already justifying 8 wins.
i can see 6+
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2019, 02:32:58 pm »

Don't know if its been said on here but it is the year of the PIG!!!

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #80 on: February 07, 2019, 07:16:16 pm »

Lots of Assumptions:  Assuming the team decides to come in and really try to play football.  Thats worth 3 games right there.  Assuming the new QB, whomever it is, appears to the team to be a leader and not just another follower stumbling through the motions, having a true leader at QB is worth another 2 games.  Now it really gets tough.  Now we need a team or 2 or 3 to have real difficulty such as dismissals and injuries.  We need an opponents coach to get fired just before we play them or something like that and then we need several players to excel beyond reasonable expectations on our team and that could be another win.  6 wins is a real stretch but it is possible.  NOTE:  Ty Storey busted his butt for us last season but he was playing from a Freshman point of view after a 3 year layoff.  Not a good situation.  Our QB last year was not a demanding leader who could lead by example.

Hogmatic

Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #81 on: February 08, 2019, 09:27:50 am »

If we go 6-6 (so either 7-6 or 6-7), it will show progress and momentum. Particularly since most pundits are going to predict 4 to 5 wins given our youth and schedule.

That said, we may see similar, or even higher, average quality but the sheer numbers and class ranking may be lower as we will not be able to sign over 25, and maybe fewer (not sure anyone knows at this point how many 2020 schollies we will be able to give).

Bingo!   6 Wins puts us in a bowl after 4-8 and 2-10 seasons.  That is progress and the media will talk about it.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #82 on: February 08, 2019, 09:34:27 am »

So if we get 4 wins, do we do twice as good at recruiting as when we had 2 wins?

6 wins = 3x as good?

I am trying to figure out the math. Asking for a friend.

Math should never be attempted by the masses here. That's a sure fire way for this place to descend into chaos. Ponderin has the intangibles to detail all the math needed here.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #83 on: February 08, 2019, 10:01:52 am »

I can't take anything someone that calls himself "okra zorback" seriously.   ::)

Maybe he really likes Okra.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2019, 12:52:13 pm »

I'm hoping for a 5-7 with a mercy bid to Liberty Bowl which happened too the SEC schools previous years.  We'd fill it up just from boredom.

+1   :D
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #85 on: February 08, 2019, 12:54:05 pm »

If we make a bowl game this year, recruiting will REALLY take off.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #86 on: February 08, 2019, 01:16:11 pm »

If we make a bowl game this year, recruiting will REALLY take off.

Maybe the Cotton Bowl.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #87 on: February 08, 2019, 01:48:22 pm »

Maybe the Cotton Bowl.

Nah, recruits just need to see us take a big step forward.  2-10 to 6-6 would be huge for keeping recruiting momentum.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #88 on: February 08, 2019, 02:07:56 pm »

Nah, recruits just need to see us take a big step forward.  2-10 to 6-6 would be huge for keeping recruiting momentum.

I think it matters what the other schools they're considering do, but it sure as heck can't hurt to get to a bowl game.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #89 on: February 08, 2019, 03:33:09 pm »

Arkansas won two (2) games last year ... what in the world makes anyone think 6 wins is a given? On the field, this team is a long, long ways off. Another solid 2020 class and Morris may get the Hogs to 6 wins by the 2020 season, but 6 wins next year is a loud cry for something that isn't realistic.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #90 on: February 09, 2019, 02:18:22 am »

Arkansas won two (2) games last year ... what in the world makes anyone think 6 wins is a given? On the field, this team is a long, long ways off. Another solid 2020 class and Morris may get the Hogs to 6 wins by the 2020 season, but 6 wins next year is a loud cry for something that isn't realistic.

Fat Bert as your type likes to call him got to 6 wins from 3. No reason Chad can’t get to 6 wins from 2 if you take into account he’s allegedly a much better coach plus the relatively easy schedule compared to 2014
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #91 on: February 09, 2019, 09:19:39 am »

Anything between 5-7 wins shows progress and there is nothing about this recruiting class that says “luck”.  This staff busted their butt and continues to bust their butt in recruiting.  That constant focus plus connections in areas within 5-8 hours of campus equals results.  We will have up to 28 available scholarships and I would expect similar results although it depends on what positions we stock up on exactly how high the final rating may be but I think we will continue to see at least 8+ composite 4 star players from this staff at a minimum IF they can show they are turning things around.

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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #92 on: February 09, 2019, 12:21:25 pm »

Arkansas won two (2) games last year ... what in the world makes anyone think 6 wins is a given? On the field, this team is a long, long ways off. Another solid 2020 class and Morris may get the Hogs to 6 wins by the 2020 season, but 6 wins next year is a loud cry for something that isn't realistic.

For the record I never said 6 wins is a given, I said 6 or 7 wins is a possibility. In the second year of a head coach's tenure, nothing is a given especially with the dumpster fire that Chad Morris inherited from Bret Bielema.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #93 on: February 09, 2019, 12:21:29 pm »

I don't see why we can't win 10
There is a 0.0 percent chance we lose to CSU
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2019, 12:31:39 pm »

Portland State
Colorado Stare
San Jose State
Mississippi State
Western Kentucky
Missouri
Plus Ole Cheating Piss for a 7-5 record!
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #95 on: February 10, 2019, 12:45:50 pm »

OK, I'll make a bold answer…the first six.

If we won the FIRST 6, I wouldn't even care what happened in the next 6.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2019, 12:59:51 pm »

The only thing that worries me about the OM game is we play them early.. they usually start decent then fall apart by game 5-6.. however last year they did almost lose to a cupcake early. We’ll see how it goes
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2019, 02:02:47 pm »

Anything between 5-7 wins shows progress and there is nothing about this recruiting class that says “luck”.  This staff busted their butt and continues to bust their butt in recruiting.  That constant focus plus connections in areas within 5-8 hours of campus equals results.  We will have up to 28 available scholarships and I would expect similar results although it depends on what positions we stock up on exactly how high the final rating may be but I think we will continue to see at least 8+ composite 4 star players from this staff at a minimum IF they can show they are turning things around.

I agree that we need to see improvement and I wouldn't call 4 wins significant improvement. I believe (JMO) that Morris needs 6 wins to keep the positive trend in recruiting to continue at a pace of adding a double digit number of 4 stars to the roster each year. It is going to take a heck of a coaching job to go to 6 wins this coming season, 7 or 8 the next season and 9 or more in year 4.

When you take a look at the recruited talent that we have to face, we all begin to understand just how challenging this might be.

Take a look at these roster numbers in the SEC West that were signed (5 and 4 stars) from 2015-2018. These are cumulative numbers signed over that period.
                          5 Stars       4 Stars
Alabama                  17              59
Auburn                     3               56
LSU                         6               53
Ole Miss                   3               25
Miss St                    1               19
Tx A&M                    3               39

Arkansas                  1               18

Yet, despite a lack of highly ranked recruits, we have found ways to be competitive and at times, win. We've also seen quite a few times that even with lesser ranked talent, we have given games away.

It would help our cause a great deal if we could get to the point that we are signing 1-5 star and 14-4 stars each year. I was surprised at how good this staff was this year on the heels of a 2-10 season. Start winning a little more and making sure that we win the ones we should and I could see this staff getting to that 1-5 and 14-4 mark sooner than later. I think that we will need that level of recruiting to rise above being a 7-8 win team on average.
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2019, 09:22:59 am »

It would have been a good one had Michigan not dropped us. They would have been in Fayetteville this year.

I know it.  But just seeing the schedule on paper, and realizing that I'm about to pony up another $1500 for tickets to see that monstrosity has me questioning my own sanity. 
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Re: Say we go 6-6 this year..
« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2019, 09:36:42 am »

I agree that we need to see improvement and I wouldn't call 4 wins significant improvement. I believe (JMO) that Morris needs 6 wins to keep the positive trend in recruiting to continue at a pace of adding a double digit number of 4 stars to the roster each year. It is going to take a heck of a coaching job to go to 6 wins this coming season, 7 or 8 the next season and 9 or more in year 4.



I'm not in the boat that CCM gets a "pass" for year 1.  I expect a competitive product on the field.  It's hard to forget 2-10.  I should enjoy going to Razorback games.  I did not enjoy last season. 

I truly understand there were some issues outside of CCM's control- namely some outrageously poor roster management and recruiting by the previous staff.  However, there's no excuse for some of the performances last season. 

I do not agree that improvement is some sort of linear line (2 wins to 4 wins to 8 wins, etc.).  There's too much variation in roster and coaching staff and schedule.   But you know improvement when you see it. 

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