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Author Topic: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)  (Read 13917 times)

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« Last Edit: January 23, 2019, 03:15:38 pm by Otis Kirk »
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 11:10:41 am »

That would certainly be an upgrade.
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 11:12:38 am »

Agreed.
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 11:17:06 am »

I'm all for hiring anybody named Brick.

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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 11:25:37 am »

That would certainly be an upgrade.

He was here I want to say with Jack Crowe as a grad assistant. He is good coach and can recruit. Has a lot of experience. I am working on a story right now.
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 11:26:46 am »

I'm all for hiring anybody named Brick.


Haha that should be worth a few T-shirts shouldn't it? I mean Brick coaching on defense. Surely some innovative t-shirt guys and gals can come up with some good stuff.
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2019, 11:28:00 am »

or Todd Bates...
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2019, 11:32:59 am »

Brick Haley, Mizzou
Walter Stewart, Northern Ill.
AJ Cooper. Wyoming
Ron Burton, Michigan St.
Corey Hetherman, James Madison
Nick Goeser, North Dakota St.

Any of these guys ↑ would be an upgrade.
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2019, 11:47:13 am »

I'm all for hiring anybody named Brick.

Would instantly make us better
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2019, 12:04:09 pm »


Haha that should be worth a few T-shirts shouldn't it? I mean Brick coaching on defense. Surely some innovative t-shirt guys and gals can come up with some good stuff.

Our line could be known as The Brick Wall
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2019, 01:33:16 pm »

That would be a good hire, but if Hobby is available without getting into a bidding war, that would be just as good.

The coffers are hurting a bit with the loss of the tax deduction, attendance down and paying a King's ransom to Bert.

According to Wally, he is getting a token salary from NE just to stick it to us even more than he already did before he departs for the Dolphins with Flores..
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2019, 01:36:32 pm »

They need to do what it takes to get Marion Hobby here. He should have been the first call Coach Morris and Chavis made when the spot became available.

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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2019, 02:07:49 pm »

They need to do what it takes to get Marion Hobby here. He should have been the first call Coach Morris and Chavis made when the spot became available.


Brick Haley, Marion Hobby, Buddy Wyatt and David Turner are said to be on the short list according to Demozette.

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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2019, 03:18:19 pm »


Brick Haley, Marion Hobby, Buddy Wyatt and David Turner are said to be on the short list according to Demozette.

It would be hard to go wrong with any of those and they would all be either an upgrade or just as good.  Wouldn't mind bringing Brian Early home either.

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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2019, 03:38:50 pm »


Brick Haley, Marion Hobby, Buddy Wyatt and David Turner are said to be on the short list according to Demozette.

The only thing about Wyatt is if Chad didn't bring him from SMU why hire him now.
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2019, 03:42:17 pm »

It would be hard to go wrong with any of those and they would all be either an upgrade or just as good.  Wouldn't mind bringing Brian Early home either.

A few things working against Brian with this hire. They almost have to hire a black coach since Cooper is only one on staff. Would be hard not to hire a black coach with this hire.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2019, 03:48:36 pm »

One Brick at a time...

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2019, 03:49:33 pm »

The only thing about Wyatt is if Chad didn't bring him from SMU why hire him now.

Yeah, I think there's a good reason he didn't bring his defensive staff from SMU. 

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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2019, 04:20:38 pm »

A few things working against Brian with this hire. They almost have to hire a black coach since Cooper is only one on staff. Would be hard not to hire a black coach with this hire.

That is what a lot of posters on here don't seem to get. There will be some hand-wringing about quotas or whatever, but if the new hire is qualified as Hobby, Haley or Turner most certainly are, that is a non-issue..
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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2019, 04:35:19 pm »

That is what a lot of posters on here don't seem to get. There will be some hand-wringing about quotas or whatever, but if the new hire is qualified as Hobby, Haley or Turner most certainly are, that is a non-issue..


Yeah all three of those guys are very qualified. Just not sure if the money will be there to get Haley. We shall see. I thought he might hire Turner last year but then he kept Coach Scott. Hobby makes a lot of sense. Their defense took a beating this year at least in part because Bortles went completely backward for whatever reasons.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2019, 06:11:16 pm »

Must be able to recruit. Want to get a good position coach, but we cannot afford to hire questionable recruiters.

 *cough*Segrest*cough*.

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2019, 06:14:13 pm »

Yeah, I think there's a good reason he didn't bring his defensive staff from SMU.

I donít know how Buddy feels about it. But Van Malone was upset Morris didnít bring him along.

Malone and Wyatt are good friends.

I think Wyatt would be a good hire. Honestly, I think all the names mentioned are upgrades
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2019, 06:47:19 pm »

I wanted Marion when it was announced he was leaving Clemson. Get him!

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2019, 07:38:50 pm »

I have no inside info of course but I have two opinions:

1. Hobby would be a grand slam hire

2. It will probably be someone Iíve never heard of. 😂

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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2019, 08:33:06 pm »

The only thing about Wyatt is if Chad didn't bring him from SMU why hire him now.

Maybe he didn't love the helmet.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2019, 10:44:34 pm »

Hobby or Haley would be big time.

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Re: If I am Chad Morris and I can do it I hire
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2019, 08:29:28 am »

The only thing about Wyatt is if Chad didn't bring him from SMU why hire him now.
I'm guessing that was the Chief's call. He did interview Wyatt and he was supposedly the runner-up to Scott.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2019, 09:02:10 am »

Do we have any connection to Todd Bates at clemson??
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2019, 11:06:32 am »

Do we have any connection to Todd Bates at clemson??

None that I am aware of. https://clemsontigers.com/coaches/todd-bates/
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2019, 11:19:18 am »

Hobby or Haley would be big time.

I think clearly they are in tier 1.

But Wyatt and Turner have fantastic resumes as well and would for sure be here in a heartbeat
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2019, 12:11:25 pm »

I have no inside info of course but I have two opinions:

1. Hobby would be a grand slam hire

2. It will probably be someone Iíve never heard of. 😂

We don't know yet what Morris' hiring procedures will be, this is the first opening, but I doubt if he will have the out-of-left-field hires like Bert.

We'll see, but IMO it will be someone with connections to Clemson/Morris or Chavis. That would be Hobby who has a connection to BOTH, Turner who has a connection to Chavis or Wyatt who has a connection to Morris.

Hobby would seem to be the #1 choice and he is available with no kind of buyout since he was let go by the Jaguars. I say we go get him. If some booster has to pony up some extra money, so be it.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2019, 01:32:38 pm »

The more I get to thinking about it, the more I want Brick Haley. I know it's a long shot. I had no idea he was making that much at Missouri, but Chief once said of Haley in 2013, "There's not a better recruiter." That's pretty high praise, especially from John Chavis who has been around the likes of (at the time) Frank Wilson, Corey Raymond, Trooper Taylor, and many, many more.

It's nothing against Hobby either. He'd be an absolute grand slam as well, but one has to wonder if being in the NFL has perhaps caused him to lose some of the fire in his belly to go out and be a tireless recruiter. It also seems like the consensus among Gamecock fans was that he really slow played South Carolina because he wants another NFL job and Muschamp got tired of waiting so he went after Scott. I don't want this to seem like I'm dragging Hobby at all, that's not my prerogative here. It's really more along the line of, if I had my choice between the two, I'd choose Haley which was not my original thought process.

David Turner would be alright. I think he's a pretty good recruiter. My couple of pauses for thought with him though are, 1) if Chavis is playing a major role in deciding on who is on the defensive coaching staff, there's a reason why he didn't bring Turner with him which might be because of, 2) Texas A&M couldn't have stopped the run at times under Chavis/Turner if the offense came out with 10 offensive linemen and a RB taking a direct snap. That is not the hallmark of a John Chavis defense. I will admit, Turner is my least researched out of the pool of candidates. I do like the fact that he's a veteran SEC coach, and his defensive lines at Mississippi State were always pretty salty, however, this would just feel like a bit of a let down hire.

I really like Buddy Wyatt. He's a great recruiter, especially in Texas. When Chad was hired, I said he was the one coach on the defensive side I would've been okay with bringing on. However, there are some similar concerns with Wyatt as there are Turner. I'm not really sure why I feel this way about it though, but I'd rather have Wyatt than Turner. Maybe it's just because I'm more familiar with Wyatt because I've done more research on him than Turner. I'm not really sure.

Brian Early might be my favorite coach on the list, simply for sentimental reasons. He's an Arkansas boy, coached so many great defensive players at Fayetteville High, and has already been through Fayetteville. But once again, Early and Arkansas seem to be a perfect match for each other at the wrong time. I'd hate to ask Early to jump to another job after just accepting the Houston job (though he would jump to Fayetteville in a heartbeat) and as has been stated, I think it's extremely important that the hire be a POC. To hell with quotas and statutes, it's all about 'crootin, and only having one minority assistant coach will not be a good look on the recruiting trail. That's just the hard fact of matter.

Regardless, I have a really good feeling that Chad thinks he's got a very good replacement. He wouldn't have just waived John Scott's buyout if he didn't think he could get the guy. With all that being said, I think any of these 5 guys would be a suitable replacement and an upgrade. John Scott is a likable enough guy and I think he's a pretty good recruiter, but the way he'd put our linemen in a four point stance on a regular basis just baffled me. Seemed like it made them lose some speed coming off the ball or something.

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2019, 02:46:29 pm »

At least we've got some DL talent on campus to entice potential coaches. It's got to be easier to cherry pick who you want when the cupboard isn't bare.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2019, 06:32:56 pm »

Brick is the one. Go get him. My question would be is he interested?
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2019, 08:18:26 pm »

BOB MF WYLIE

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2019, 08:52:11 pm »

Some word today about Vanderbilt's CJ Ah You who know young coach with ties to Oklahoma and Tennessee 

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2019, 11:47:27 am »

Does the longer this drag out mean itís probably a coach who is employed at another university and he wants to wait until after signing day to join the staff.  So he wonít effect the recruiting class at his current university.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2019, 05:13:35 pm »

Looks like Turner is joining Mullenís staff at FLA so the list grows a little shorter.  Hopefully we hear something this weekend.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2019, 06:58:12 pm »

Some word today about Vanderbilt's CJ Ah You who know young coach with ties to Oklahoma and Tennessee

Would say its an upgrade for sure. We know the staff can recruit and what he did with Vandy guys shows he can coach IMO.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2019, 07:00:45 pm »

Would say its an upgrade for sure. We know the staff can recruit and what he did with Vandy guys shows he can coach IMO.
can't argue that!!
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2019, 09:56:19 am »

 I just hope we don't let money be a reason we don't hire someone
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2019, 11:29:35 am »

I just hope we don't let money be a reason we don't hire someone

Well, money wonít be freely given after a 2-10 season.

But 340,000 should land a solid candidate and Iím sure more could be gotten for a Hobby or Haley if needed.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2019, 11:32:22 am »

Well, money wonít be freely given after a 2-10 season.

But 340,000 should land a solid candidate and Iím sure more could be gotten for a Hobby or Haley if needed.

I bet we pay more than $400k per year. Scott was on the cheap because he got market value for his experience.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2019, 12:15:10 pm »

I bet we pay more than $400k per year. Scott was on the cheap because he got market value for his experience.

340,000 ainít cheap. Caldwell and Cooper have a bunch of SEC experience and success and make 360 and 355 respectively. Each having coached a NC game.

In addition both Clemson DL coaches each made 300k last year.

If we get the right candidate I think we could go over 400k. But Iím not sure that is a given

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2019, 01:22:04 pm »

Hobby or Haley would be big time.
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2019, 03:28:32 pm »

this

Hobby or Haley combined with Steve Caldwell and the current class of incoming Dlineman...  :o ;D
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2019, 09:46:58 am »

has anyone step forward as the number one choice yet
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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2019, 12:27:38 pm »

Native Arkansan (Crossett, also played at ArkTech, wife is from Russellville) that we are recruiting against now. Get him! https://georgiadogs.com/staff.aspx?staff=403

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Re: Closer look at five D-Line Coach Possibilities (Updated)
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2019, 12:47:25 pm »

Native Arkansan (Crossett, also played at ArkTech, wife is from Russellville) that we are recruiting against now. Get him! https://georgiadogs.com/staff.aspx?staff=403

Career wise a terrible mistake to leave UGA at the current moment for Arkansas and Scott knows this.
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