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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #150 on: January 18, 2019, 04:48:11 pm »

Sometimes a coach is Chris Beard, sometimes they are Stan Heath. I'm not sure anyone saw that coming with him at Texas Tech. If Arkansas cant get a big name like Buzz, can we find the next Beard? Or will we end up with another Heath/Pelphrey?

I just think this program is in really good shape to attract a solid coach.

If we're ready, willing and able to pay the big $$$ that it will take to attract a big name coach, then let's jump.
If, OTOH we're just tired of Anderson and some are willing to roll the dice on an up and comer, then no thanks.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #151 on: January 18, 2019, 06:01:53 pm »

the fans in the stands would more than cover a big money investment in a coach. For far too many years we have gone the cheap route on coaches and assistants and the results show
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #152 on: January 18, 2019, 07:21:37 pm »

How did it get that way, just curios?

Mike Anderson has built this program to this point, but he doesnt have the ability to take it any further.

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2019, 10:41:41 am »

Mike Anderson has built this program to this point, but he doesnt have the ability to take it any further.

Who say's you?  ( picture of fat old man, rolling on ground, laughing)
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2019, 02:43:06 pm »

Buzzzzzz
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #155 on: January 19, 2019, 02:46:57 pm »

FYI, there is zero chance Hoiberg, Stevens, or Donovan would come to Arkansas. Not saying Arkansas is a bad job, just none of those make sense. Lots of NBA jobs open, and UCLA will have pick of litter just for being UCLA.

Also, high major coaches aren't moving around much. It would be hard to poach even a Brad Brownell or Richard Pitino type.

Realistic expectations says think retread, up and comer, or coach who seems stalled out somewhere.

I would be stunned if Anderson wasn't here next season, but I really like John Brannen or Earl Grant. Both have significantly better records than Pelphrey did at South Alabama.

I'd give Shaka Smart a call at Texas and see if he is ready for an early divorce from Texas.

Anthony Grant as a backup option. My all else goes wrong option? Grant McCasland. And I think he actually may have a case of being way underrated as an option.

Those are give good names. Only Shaka Smart wouldn't say yes right away.
Still a long way from thinking a coaching change is likely, but I stand by this list.

Lots of good options right now at the mid major ranks, and plenty of high major coaches who may benefit from a fresh start.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #156 on: January 19, 2019, 02:49:50 pm »

FYI, there is zero chance Hoiberg, Stevens, or Donovan would come to Arkansas. Not saying Arkansas is a bad job, just none of those make sense. Lots of NBA jobs open, and UCLA will have pick of litter just for being UCLA.

Also, high major coaches aren't moving around much. It would be hard to poach even a Brad Brownell or Richard Pitino type.

Realistic expectations says think retread, up and comer, or coach who seems stalled out somewhere.

I would be stunned if Anderson wasn't here next season, but I really like John Brannen or Earl Grant. Both have significantly better records than Pelphrey did at South Alabama.

I'd give Shaka Smart a call at Texas and see if he is ready for an early divorce from Texas.

Anthony Grant as a backup option. My all else goes wrong option? Grant McCasland. And I think he actually may have a case of being way underrated as an option.

Those are give good names. Only Shaka Smart wouldn't say yes right away.

Lots of NBA open jobs?
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #157 on: January 19, 2019, 02:55:49 pm »

Lots of NBA open jobs?
Aside from Bulls, T-Wolves and Cavaliers already open. Wouldn't be surprised to see Pelicans or Wizards open up before end of the season. Hoiberg will have options. But there could not be one more opening at the NBA level and I still guarantee no NBA coach is thinking of going back to college right now, so no reason to convince ourselves one of the big three former college coaches is dreaming of leaving an NBA lifestyle to rebuild a college program in Fayetteville.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #158 on: January 19, 2019, 03:07:48 pm »

Still a long way from thinking a coaching change is likely, but I stand by this list.

Lots of good options right now at the mid major ranks, and plenty of high major coaches who may benefit from a fresh start.

I'll take Grant McCasland for five hundred, Alex.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #159 on: January 19, 2019, 03:11:09 pm »

Jamie Dixon has done decent at TCU as well, could get a look idk
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #160 on: January 19, 2019, 03:13:12 pm »

Jamie Dixon has done decent at TCU as well, could get a look idk

4 transfers already this season. Why are players leaving his program?
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #161 on: January 19, 2019, 03:14:11 pm »

4 transfers already this season

ahh nvm, thats too ma like
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #162 on: January 19, 2019, 03:34:16 pm »

Wish there was a Buzz in the air
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #163 on: January 19, 2019, 05:36:33 pm »

Steve Lavin, Buzz, Marshall, Danny Kaspar, Beard
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #164 on: January 19, 2019, 06:27:26 pm »

Mike Anderson will retire at Arkansas
Watching him and his teams makes me think he has retired already.

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #165 on: January 19, 2019, 06:37:17 pm »

1. Gregg Marshall.
2. Brad Underwood, surely he would be willing to leave Illinois.
3. Grant Mccassland.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #166 on: January 19, 2019, 06:39:53 pm »

Someone who can coach X's and O's....
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #167 on: January 19, 2019, 06:44:02 pm »

Someone who can coach X's and O's....
See list directly above. ^^^
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #168 on: January 19, 2019, 06:44:48 pm »

I just want somebody that plays mostly zone, so I don't have to see a 6'10" center guarding a point guard every other time down the court.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #169 on: January 19, 2019, 06:56:17 pm »

I just want somebody that plays mostly zone, so I don't have to see a 6'10" center guarding a point guard every other time down the court.
You can play man to man without switching on screens. Every coach we face knows that we are switching and take full advantage of the mismatch’s that’s created by switching. Any coach worth his weight knows that. Screens need to be fought thru or by hedging. Man to man 101.

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #170 on: January 19, 2019, 07:05:06 pm »

I just want somebody that plays mostly zone, so I don't have to see a 6'10" center guarding a point guard every other time down the court.

The “everybody switches” thing is so painful to watch. For 8 years we have been the easiest team to take advantage of

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #171 on: January 19, 2019, 07:22:24 pm »

Here we go:

1. Jimmy Dykes (didn't know how to coach women, but a great basketball mind)
2. T.J. Cleveland (MA's up and coming assistant…keep Nolan's legacy going)
3. Blake Eddins (he says funny things on Twitter)
4. Rob Evans (the seasoned vet we need)
5. Marcus Monk (would be $$ on the recruiting trail)

Thanks, I’ll hang up and listen.

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #172 on: January 19, 2019, 07:31:24 pm »

How stupid
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #173 on: January 19, 2019, 07:44:03 pm »

A lot of these top notch coaches that people are saying we don't have a chance at are at lesser basketball programs than us. 

Arkansas is 9th in attendance, 1 spot below Tennessee.  Oddly, Nebraska is tenth.  But ahead of Arkansas is mainly a bunch of blue bloods.  College basketball viewers have been in decline the past 5 years and there only 61 million viewers of college basketball in the US.  But apparently, the south represents 37.5% of viewership.  UNC, Duke, UK, is a lot of that, but I bet Arkansas is pulling in major viewers too. 

Not only that, Arkansas puts out and is near to some really good talent.  Great facilities.  Arkansas should be able to whack off a Texas Tech, WICHITA STATE, AUBURN, etc...


Well you can kiss goodbye that really good talent in Memphis, thanks to Penny Hardaway and, if he does the job, Walker is going to make things more difficult in Little Rock.  I personally would go Marshall and McCasland.  Marshall would have crawled here on his hands and knees 8 years ago but I can't for the life of me imagine why he would want to come here now and leave what he has .
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #174 on: January 19, 2019, 07:52:35 pm »

Grant McCasland won a JUCO National Championship, went to two D2 Elite Eights, has high major recruiting experience as an assistant at Baylor, and in three years between Jonesboro and North Texas has done really well. Also is only 42.

More I research him, more I think he is headed toward a big time career. Maybe not the big name, but the right name for somebody.

I like McCasland and think he made a good impression at ASU the short time he was there.   

McCasland
Buzz
Beard
Hoiberg
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #175 on: January 19, 2019, 09:29:05 pm »

Rick Pitino
Travis DeCuire
Buzz
Chris Beard
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #176 on: January 19, 2019, 09:35:22 pm »

Tim Jankovich
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #177 on: January 19, 2019, 09:37:12 pm »

Mike Anderson is here for life guys, get used to it, most of y'all fell all over yourselves begging for him to be hired.  You've got what you wanted, an average coach that's going to win just enough to keep somewhere around half the fanbase happy, but the other half that never wanted him in the beginning are slowly losing faith that the UofA will ever put forth the effort and money to get this program back to where we once were, a National Basketball Power.

Don't be silly now.  Mike is about to have his first losing season and it's a perfect time for him to go.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #178 on: January 19, 2019, 10:06:21 pm »

Deeper names I haven't seen mentioned:

TJ Otzelberger-SDakota St
Ryan Odom-UMBC
Kyle Keller-SFA
Nathan Davis-Bucknell
Matt McMahon-Murray St
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #179 on: January 19, 2019, 10:29:16 pm »

You can play man to man without switching on screens. Every coach we face knows that we are switching and take full advantage of the mismatch’s that’s created by switching. Any coach worth his weight knows that. Screens need to be fought thru or by hedging. Man to man 101.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #180 on: January 19, 2019, 10:39:41 pm »

Riddle me this: who has a better career winning %, Buzz or MA? 

Stop with all of the Buzz love.  He is just another guy.  If we want to ascend to the top tier we need to be aiming higher than freakin Buzz Williams.

The names listed on here make me more depressed than the actual state of the program.  I’m surprised I haven’t read “Billy Gillespie” from some of you crash test dummies.

To keep you white-out sniffers on the rails, these are also unacceptable suggestions:
-Nolan Richardson
-Rick Pitino
-Tubby Smith
-Rick Stansbury
-Scotty Thurman
-Corliss
-Andy Kennedy
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #181 on: January 20, 2019, 12:59:20 am »

Riddle me this: who has a better career winning %, Buzz or MA? 

Stop with all of the Buzz love.  He is just another guy.  If we want to ascend to the top tier we need to be aiming higher than freakin Buzz Williams.

The names listed on here make me more depressed than the actual state of the program.  I’m surprised I haven’t read “Billy Gillespie” from some of you crash test dummies.

To keep you white-out sniffers on the rails, these are also unacceptable suggestions:
-Nolan Richardson
-Rick Pitino
-Tubby Smith
-Rick Stansbury
-Scotty Thurman
-Corliss
-Andy Kennedy


For starters, Williams has elevated the programs he worked for...5 years in at Marquette and he had 122 wins vs. Tom Crean's 107 the previous 5. VT had been TERRIBLE... he had 70 wins in his first 4 there vs only 60 the last 4 prior to his arrival, and he is well on his way to having another very good record. He is more than just another guy...

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #182 on: January 20, 2019, 03:13:44 am »

I loved Fred Hoiberg’s teams at Iowa State.  I don’t know if he’s interested in going back to the college game let alone Arkansas but I hope we look at him. 
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #183 on: January 20, 2019, 08:03:02 am »

Riddle me this: who has a better career winning %, Buzz or MA? 

Stop with all of the Buzz love.  He is just another guy.  If we want to ascend to the top tier we need to be aiming higher than freakin Buzz Williams.

The names listed on here make me more depressed than the actual state of the program.  I’m surprised I haven’t read “Billy Gillespie” from some of you crash test dummies.

To keep you white-out sniffers on the rails, these are also unacceptable suggestions:
-Nolan Richardson
-Rick Pitino
-Tubby Smith
-Rick Stansbury
-Scotty Thurman
-Corliss
-Andy Kennedy


I bet this guy didn't like the Chad Morris hire either.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #184 on: January 20, 2019, 09:07:51 am »

I loved Fred Hoiberg’s teams at Iowa State.  I don’t know if he’s interested in going back to the college game let alone Arkansas but I hope we look at him.

We need to be aggressive to get Hoiberg.   Hoiberg would be GREAT but he probably wants to be an NBA coach.
 
If we don't get him then we go after Beard and Buzz Williams.   I think Buzz Williams is a better fit.

Beard loses 3 SRs after this year.  Chris Beard won the Big 12 Co-Coach of the Year in 2018 and then led Texas Tech to its first-ever Elite Eight berth in program history with a 78–65 win over the Purdue Boilermakers.  After an Elite 8 appearance and Big12 coach of the year honors, he had a recruiting class recently that is #21 ranked and that is the highest ever at TT per 247.   This class was preceded by a #33 class in 17.  Beard was very successful at UALR for 1 season so he spent time in state to see the support.  Beard is competitive and knows that he could do much better at Arkansas.     Chris Beard was an assistant coach at Texas Tech University for 10 years under Bob Knight and Pat Knight.  His daughters live a few hours away from Lubbock.

Buzz Williams grew up in Van Alstyne, Texas and attended Oklahoma City University and Texas A&M University–Kingsville.   He has been coaching in the ACC which means he has been learning from the best.  He has 3 SRs on his roster.  He is a long ways away from home VaTech so he could come to Arkansas to be closer to home.  His team has been ranked in the top 10 so far this year. The reality is that the ACC is a blood bath and it will be hard to beat the Duke, UNC, UVA, NCSt, teams that have established strongholds on the conference.   This is a recent article of interest  https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginia-va-tech-as-a-top-10-matchup-is-a-tribute-to-tony-bennett-and-buzz-williams/2019/01/14/28c56c70-1823-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a00da162ad34

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #185 on: January 20, 2019, 10:08:06 am »

You can play man to man without switching on screens. Every coach we face knows that we are switching and take full advantage of the mismatch’s that’s created by switching. Any coach worth his weight knows that. Screens need to be fought thru or by hedging. Man to man 101.
+1000
Why is anderson stuck on this philosophy?  I just don't get it. 

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #186 on: January 20, 2019, 11:02:26 am »

Kenny Payne
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #187 on: January 20, 2019, 11:07:34 am »

+1000
Why is anderson stuck on this philosophy?  I just don't get it. 

He's not a smart coach.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #188 on: January 20, 2019, 11:32:13 am »

You can play man to man without switching on screens. Every coach we face knows that we are switching and take full advantage of the mismatch’s that’s created by switching. Any coach worth his weight knows that. Screens need to be fought thru or by hedging. Man to man 101.
If this was the 90's, I would agree. Today lots of teams aggressively switch. It's a fine philosophy, and there is a reason NBA coaches are starting to switch everything. It works.

Teams are setting way too many screens and getting too good at swinging the ball to play defense the old way with basic rotations and fighting through screens. Switching everything gives you a prayer against modern, ball movement heavy teams. Yes, you occasionally have the ugly moment of a 6'10 center being guarded by a point guard and getting dunked on, but overall it helps you many more possessions than not. You have to look at the larger sample size, just not those few ugly possessions.

If we had a coach come in here and we got reports that the Razorbacks were back to fighting through screens and sticking to their man come hell or high water then I'd be convinced we hired a dinosaur. I personally like that the Razorbacks aggressively switch when they're not trapping. The problem isn't the X's and O's, just right now our Johnny's are not as good as the opponent's Joe's.

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #189 on: January 20, 2019, 11:41:49 am »

Kenny Payne

If we go the assistant route, that would probably be my top choice. 
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #190 on: January 20, 2019, 11:48:15 am »

If we go the assistant route, that would probably be my top choice. 
I'd be down for a Kenny Payne on paper, but when is the last assistant to go straight from the bench to a P5 head coaching job and be okay? Rick Ray bombed at Mississippi State, Orlando Antigua crashed and burned at USF, Wyking Jones is terrible at Cal, and so on. Mike Hopkins is doing well at Washington, but he coached some games at Syracuse during Boeheim's suspension.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #191 on: January 20, 2019, 12:11:46 pm »

If we go the assistant route, that would probably be my top choice.
Are you guys seriously for firing Mike Anderson to replace him with an assistant coach, someone who has never coached a Division I game?  I'm with you if you have a great hire lined up, a Chris Beard perhaps, but it's crazy to be thinking about firing Anderson to take a flyer on an assistant.  Surely just standing pat is better than that.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #192 on: January 20, 2019, 01:26:12 pm »

If this was the 90's, I would agree. Today lots of teams aggressively switch. It's a fine philosophy, and there is a reason NBA coaches are starting to switch everything. It works.

Teams are setting way too many screens and getting too good at swinging the ball to play defense the old way with basic rotations and fighting through screens. Switching everything gives you a prayer against modern, ball movement heavy teams. Yes, you occasionally have the ugly moment of a 6'10 center being guarded by a point guard and getting dunked on, but overall it helps you many more possessions than not. You have to look at the larger sample size, just not those few ugly possessions.

If we had a coach come in here and we got reports that the Razorbacks were back to fighting through screens and sticking to their man come hell or high water then I'd be convinced we hired a dinosaur. I personally like that the Razorbacks aggressively switch when they're not trapping. The problem isn't the X's and O's, just right now our Johnny's are not as good as the opponent's Joe's.
Well said however, when Gafford is repeatedly switching to a good/great ball handling guard and getting beat there has been no adjustments. You can switch, hedge or fight thru the screens depending on the personnel on the floor. My point was, CMA never seems to adjust, and Gafford or other “bigs” are set up for failure. CMA should be putting him in a position to be successful, #1 priority for a coach. In life and in a game.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #193 on: January 20, 2019, 04:20:01 pm »

I bet this guy didn't like the Chad Morris hire either.

I also had my sights higher than Chad Morris.   We need to quit aiming for the middle

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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #194 on: January 20, 2019, 04:22:05 pm »

For starters, Williams has elevated the programs he worked for...5 years in at Marquette and he had 122 wins vs. Tom Crean's 107 the previous 5. VT had been TERRIBLE... he had 70 wins in his first 4 there vs only 60 the last 4 prior to his arrival, and he is well on his way to having another very good record. He is more than just another guy...

Great.  So he is the Charlie Strong of basketball coaches, taking marginal or terrible programs and improving them but never taking them to a top tier status.  Pass...
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #195 on: January 20, 2019, 04:28:48 pm »

Hoiberg said he prefers the NBA when asked about interest in UCLA
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #196 on: January 20, 2019, 04:47:57 pm »

How about the UALR coach
I believe he has his degree now
Has Head Coaching experience in the NBA
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #197 on: January 20, 2019, 04:56:31 pm »

Well you can kiss goodbye that really good talent in Memphis, thanks to Penny Hardaway and, if he does the job, Walker is going to make things more difficult in Little Rock.  I personally would go Marshall and McCasland.  Marshall would have crawled here on his hands and knees 8 years ago but I can't for the life of me imagine why he would want to come here now and leave what he has .

My guess is if Mike Anderson steps down, is reassigned to an administrative position, or is terminated, Darrell Walker would be one of the first to apply for the head Hog job. IMHO, he would be a good hire.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #198 on: January 20, 2019, 07:18:28 pm »

How about the UALR coach
I believe he has his degree now
Has Head Coaching experience in the NBA
If he had a couple winning seasons under his belt, absolutely. I am sure he'd be a fine game day coach, but he has not proven yet he can build a program from the ground up. Still a newcomer in the college game, and I am cheering hard for him at UALR.
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Re: Lets get it started...The short list
« Reply #199 on: January 20, 2019, 07:21:19 pm »

Buzz Williams
Gregg Marshall
Frank Martin


Why would Frank Martin come???

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