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BannerMountainMan

Bottom line
« on: January 12, 2019, 07:26:16 pm »

Mike has to expand his recruiting ground, he always finishes with the same lines as his recruiting classes at around 40, LSU had three guys that are as just as good as Gafford. Gafford is one dimensional, that Reid kid can do everything, gotta go get em Mike, or else.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 07:28:11 pm »

He's been a head coach for only 16 years.

Give him time. He'll figure it out.

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phadedhawg

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 07:28:41 pm »

He's been a head coach for only 16 years.

Give him time. He'll figure it out.

practically a rookie...

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 07:30:13 pm »

Mike has to expand his recruiting ground, he always finishes with the same lines as his recruiting classes at around 40, LSU had three guys that are as just as good as Gafford. Gafford is one dimensional, that Reid kid can do everything, gotta go get em Mike, or else.

So you think a no name coach is getting multiple New Jersey kids by playing it straight?

RazorPiggie

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 07:30:28 pm »

Probably shoulda started that from the get go.
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BannerMountainMan

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2019, 07:31:18 pm »

So you think a no name coach is getting multiple New Jersey kids by playing it straight?
nope, but I donít want to say he is cheating because the 10 or 12 posters will come in here yelling at me because Will Wade is just that good of a coach.
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phadedhawg

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 07:31:26 pm »

So you think a no name coach is getting multiple New Jersey kids by playing it straight?

Probably.  I don't know their coach....most people couldn't name our's either. 
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 07:31:29 pm »

Correct bottom line is we should go in a new direction.

Tortfeasor

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2019, 07:34:11 pm »

Where would this team be with better coaching? Mike just doesnít have it. Mediocre coach, and we look like a mediocre team. Where has the defense gone?

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2019, 07:36:09 pm »

Took a good team to OT. Wouldnít overreact to it. But it was a must win considering the Fl loss and what is coming up next week.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2019, 07:36:52 pm »

Probably.  I don't know their coach....most people couldn't name our's either.

If every top program does it. And if there's no repercussions to doing it. Is it cheating.

Some HC's do whatever it takes to get top talent. Others just act shocked when top talent flips to Miss St.
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BannerMountainMan

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2019, 07:37:08 pm »

Where would this team be with better coaching? Mike just doesnít have it. Mediocre coach, and we look like a mediocre team. Where has the defense gone?
Where would this team be with good free throw shooting, 15-0, FTs is all mental and itís 100% due because of Youth.
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HogBreath

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2019, 07:44:10 pm »

Mike has to expand his recruiting ground, he always finishes with the same lines as his recruiting classes at around 40, LSU had three guys that are as just as good as Gafford. Gafford is one dimensional, that Reid kid can do everything, gotta go get em Mike, or else.
This recruiting stuff...in case you haven't figured it out...not really Mike's strong suit.

BannerMountainMan

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2019, 07:45:04 pm »

This recruiting stuff...in case you haven't figured it out...not really Mike's strong suit.
I wonder why
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2019, 07:46:11 pm »

This recruiting stuff...in case you haven't figured it out...not really Mike's strong suit.

Will Wade name is all over the investigation. Just google it. He's paying that's how they got those studs.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2019, 07:47:06 pm »

If the wins donít come, playing it straight on the recruiting trail, being a good man, etc. wonít save him.
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BannerMountainMan

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2019, 07:48:02 pm »

If the wins donít come, playing it straight on the recruiting trail, being a good man, etc. wonít save him.
only way it will is if the FBI takes over and stops giving the investigation back into the NCAA but you know that NCAA loves the money!!
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2019, 07:48:45 pm »

Will Wade name is all over the investigation. Just google it. He's paying that's how they got those studs.

The FBI isn't going to make MA a better recruiter.

BannerMountainMan

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2019, 07:50:29 pm »

The FBI isn't going to make MA a better recruiter.
we would have Monk, and Perry.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2019, 07:51:48 pm »

only way it will is if the FBI takes over and stops giving the investigation back into the NCAA but you know that NCAA loves the money!!

Doesn't the FBI have better things to do then dealing with cheating in college basketball?

I mean, isn't terrorism, drug trafficking still a thing?
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HogBreath

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 07:52:23 pm »

I wonder why
It's a slimy game, and that's not Mike.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2019, 07:54:29 pm »

Probably.  I don't know their coach....most people couldn't name our's either. 
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 07:55:02 pm »

Well I know one coach who is not getting them!
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2019, 08:01:51 pm »

Some player will get mad and tell. That roster at LSU got a stud from Florida, Connecticut and New Jersey. Come on
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2019, 08:07:56 pm »

They have a recorded phone call where wade is saying we got the money you asked for, and guess what...the NCAA doesn't care. Look at known cheaters - Pearl, cal, roy - they all have ranked teams. Do what it takes to get good players. This is 2019, play the game like the others
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2019, 08:09:22 pm »

They have a recorded phone call where wade is saying we got the money you asked for, and guess what...the NCAA doesn't care. Look at known cheaters - Pearl, cal, roy - they all have ranked teams. Do what it takes to get good players. This is 2019, play the game like the others

The FBI will get those cheaters. In stead of getting terrorist and drug traffickers.
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BigHog396

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2019, 08:10:43 pm »

Where would this team be with good free throw shooting, 15-0, FTs is all mental and itís 100% due because of Youth.
Problem is... Mike seldom has a good free throw shooting team.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2019, 08:14:23 pm »

It's sad when NCAA does nothing to stop this.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2019, 08:17:10 pm »

Problem is... Mike seldom has a good free throw shooting team.
.....or rebounding.....or defending the 3.  Mike please retire.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2019, 08:23:13 pm »

.....or rebounding.....or defending the 3.  Mike please retire.

He absolutely has no fire!  It is time for him to retire.  He doesnt care whether we win or lose. 

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2019, 08:28:30 pm »

Will Wade name is all over the investigation. Just google it. He's paying that's how they got those studs.
Sure.  Side bet LSU will not bet on probation in the next 5 years?  Not everyone cheats.   

hogfanny

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2019, 08:29:59 pm »

They have a recorded phone call where wade is saying we got the money you asked for, and guess what...the NCAA doesn't care. Look at known cheaters - Pearl, cal, roy - they all have ranked teams. Do what it takes to get good players. This is 2019, play the game like the others
Yea, really. This integrity Jeff Long brought in here has the football program on rock bottom and basketball is spiraling downward. Thanks Jeff!!
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2019, 08:42:40 pm »

Yea, really. This integrity Jeff Long brought in here has the football program on rock bottom and basketball is spiraling downward. Thanks Jeff!!

I'll pass on that cheating.
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hogfanny

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2019, 08:42:59 pm »

Where would this team be with good free throw shooting, 15-0, FTs is all mental and itís 100% due because of Youth.
Sorry Mountainman, free throws is in technique and practice. Can be achieved in high school boys and girls. If you can't teach it you can't recruit it, you get what we have.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2019, 08:43:19 pm »

Basketball recruiting has to get better. I love Anderson, but his recruiting approach these past 8 years just has not made sense. This is not a highly talented roster.

This is not the make or break season. It is a transition year following 3 out of 4 NCAA years. Next year is the make or break. A few weeks ago, I was confident next year could work out well. After these past few games, I am not sure how things can get better without Gafford. This isn't like when Portis left and there was Kingsley in the wings and Gafford in the future. I am hoping the staff has a plan.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2019, 08:44:15 pm »

I'll pass on that cheating.

And Hogs will pass of winning.

But the FBI will make it all better.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2019, 08:44:53 pm »

Bottom line

TIME FOR A CHANGE

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2019, 08:45:04 pm »

nope, but I donít want to say he is cheating because the 10 or 12 posters will come in here yelling at me because Will Wade is just that good of a coach.

Wasnít the LSU coach in the fray of the coaches who were cheating?
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2019, 08:46:14 pm »

Yea I think itís not unfair to expect us to snag a five star and a few consensus four stars per class
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BannerMountainMan

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2019, 08:47:10 pm »

Wasnít the LSU coach in the fray of the coaches who were cheating?
Yep but Hogville doesnít believe it.

hogfanny

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2019, 08:49:12 pm »

Yep but Hogville doesnít believe it.
Oh but yes we do.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2019, 08:49:59 pm »

Yep but Hogville doesnít believe it.

They're actually saying Mike should cheat. LSU and Auburn will have short lived success.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2019, 08:53:15 pm »

Will wade can coach and cheat, just like bill self, Sean Miller, mike k, Roy Williams

NCAA is not going to touch this with a ten foot pole. They are in Indy trying to figure out a made up loop hole they can use.

Just like the unc fraud case

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2019, 08:56:38 pm »

Will wade can coach and cheat, just like bill self, Sean Miller, mike k, Roy Williams

NCAA is not going to touch this with a ten foot pole. They are in Indy trying to figure out a made up loop hole they can use.

Just like the unc fraud case
But if the NCAA finds out that Central Connecticut State gave their players a extra five bucks so they could supersize their Big Mac after the game with Delaware State...then CCSU is getting the death penalty....that will show that the NCAA means business!
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2019, 08:59:06 pm »

But if the NCAA finds out that Central Connecticut State gave their players a extra five bucks so they could supersize their Big Mac after the game with Delaware State...then CCSU is getting the death penalty....that will show that the NCAA means business!

Yep.

Notice the assistant coaches in the fbi case are taking deals. So that limits the amount of information that will be out there. Would not surprise me if they are not being paid off to do it
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hogfanny

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2019, 08:59:46 pm »

They're actually saying Mike should cheat. LSU and Auburn will have short lived success.
Somebody needs to do something.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2019, 09:02:57 pm »

Mike has never been a great recruiter...every really good player here and at Missouri has kinda fell in his lap...This is what a lot of people were feeling 8 years ago...

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2019, 09:03:14 pm »

If everyone is cheating, then no one is cheating. ďCheatingĒ has become the norm, and the NCAA is not going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2019, 09:05:38 pm »

I wouldnít be mad if every player on the team transfers. If they have any desire to play after college they should go somewhere that has a coach that can teach fundamentals, develop a game plan and does something other than chase the offense down the court. Absolute crap as a coach, doesnít even show concern about the game until 10 minutes are left in the second half. Watch other coaches with passion, fighting with refs to get calls and their teams reflect that same passion. Yet we get folded arms, and a blank stare down the court.

hogfanny

Re: Bottom line
« Reply #49 on: January 12, 2019, 09:07:11 pm »

If everyone is cheating, then no one is cheating. ďCheatingĒ has become the norm, and the NCAA is not going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
And that IS the bottom line.
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