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Re: Clemson - Recruiting and Freshmen
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2019, 03:00:26 pm »

An important point when comparing Arkansas and any other non traditional program thatís become a powerhouse (outside of the SEC West) is ďWere they given an opportunity to build their foundation?Ē.  Itís really hard to foster a winning culture when your inexperienced team is getting beat by 20-30 points every weekend.  Clemson had a vacuum where itís conference powers (FSU and Miami) were down for a good four years.  Virginia Tech was the other power but they werenít contending for national championships.  I just donít see a situation like that presenting itself for Arkansas.  At some point we have to gain some traction to move forward.  We have to be good but another team also has to fall back.

Yes, we haven't had a situation like this since back around 2005-07. This was a golden opportunity for us to win the SEC and we were close, but we Nutted it up.
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Re: Clemson - Recruiting and Freshmen
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2019, 03:13:31 pm »

was not saying areas were equal in size or even that one cannot recruit to Fayetteville, just pointing out that Clemson was not some isolated little town.

That is exactly what Clemson is.   A small little isolated town.    Greenville is 25 miles,   
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Re: Clemson - Recruiting and Freshmen
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2019, 03:16:32 pm »

Good grief, size of the city where the college is means nothing.  It's proximity to talent.  Clemson is in a sweet spot.

 They have also invested more.  Look at what they are paying Venables.  When they needed an OC they went out and hired Morris and made him one of the highest paid assistants in the game.  Although Chief and Caldwell are next level guys is the rest of our staff.  Are we investing in staff like Clemson did when they took off?

While our facilities are nice they have next level including a slide and a bowling alley, covered basketball court.  There are a lot of reasons Clemson is what it is today.  They decided to run their program like an SEC school but not like an average SEC school, but rather an elite one. 
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Re: Clemson - Recruiting and Freshmen
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2019, 03:23:51 pm »

Good grief, size of the city where the college is means nothing.  It's proximity to talent.  Clemson is in a sweet spot.

 They have also invested more.  Look at what they are paying Venables.  When they needed an OC they went out and hired Morris and made him one of the highest paid assistants in the game.  Although Chief and Caldwell are next level guys is the rest of our staff.  Are we investing in staff like Clemson did when they took off?

While our facilities are nice they have next level including a slide and a bowling alley, covered basketball court.  There are a lot of reasons Clemson is what it is today.  They decided to run their program like an SEC school but not like an average SEC school, but rather an elite one. 
Their new football facility opened only in 2017. It hasnít been open long enough to have made an impact recruiting wise for what theyíve done prior to last year. It will have an impact going forward. However their new facility, strategic location AND hiring coaches that CAN recruit is what makes them tough going forward.
The really sad part of the deal is Arkansas outranks Clemson on most valuable football programs consistently. It all goes to show you getting the right coach in the right place at the right time is critical.
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Re: Clemson - Recruiting and Freshmen
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2019, 03:48:06 pm »

Two points:

Don't tell me you can't recruit to Fayetteville....Clemson is a town of 16,000 in rural South Carolina.  Winning is what drives recruiting.  Period.

And don't tell me that a freshman can't contribute....Clemson just drove the field by a true freshman throwing to a true freshman.

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