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outlawhogeywells

SEC Hollier than thou rule
« on: January 07, 2019, 11:23:26 am »

It is time for the SEC to get rid of the rule that doesn't allow some JC's to transfer in due to core classes.  Yet these same kids can get into most other power 5 schools.  CAL comes to mind on an OL that could not get in here, but got into a really good academic school.  Now hearing the Lakia Henry could pick FSU, because the ACC does not require college algebra as a requirement.

RazorPiggie

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2019, 11:24:55 am »

College Algebra isn't hard and most HS offer it.

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2019, 11:28:14 am »

College Algebra isn't hard and most HS offer it.

It's easy if you know how to do it. Not so much, if you don't.

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2019, 11:51:34 am »

College Algebra isn't hard and most HS offer it.

On one hand, why didn't he take a freshman level course?  On the other hand, college algebra is not neccesarily a required first semester course, so if he's a freshman I don't see the issue.
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Hogeyeblind

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2019, 11:52:12 am »

As soon as Saban wants a JC guy who hasn't passed college algebra he will advise Sankey to change the rule

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2019, 12:40:32 pm »

"Hollier than thou?" I thought the 12 days of Christmas were over..
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2019, 12:41:53 pm »

As soon as Saban wants a JC guy who hasn't passed college algebra he will advise Sankey to change the rule

And Sankey will say: "anything you say Your Highness!"
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RazorPiggie

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2019, 01:57:23 pm »

On one hand, why didn't he take a freshman level course?  On the other hand, college algebra is not neccesarily a required first semester course, so if he's a freshman I don't see the issue.

I didn't take it in HS and had to take a summer class before my freshman year to be able to get into the UofA.
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2019, 02:38:39 pm »

I have no problems with core course requirements.

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2019, 03:00:03 pm »

As soon as Saban wants a JC guy who hasn't passed college algebra he will advise Sankey to change the rule

Bama has the luxury of rarely needing transfer help from the Juco market. It's a rule that hurts the back half of the SEC more than it hurts the blue bloods.

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2019, 04:03:59 pm »

Bama has the luxury of rarely needing transfer help from the Juco market. It's a rule that hurts the back half of the SEC more than it hurts the blue bloods.

He will go get one ever now and then - Mt. Cody
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2019, 04:41:10 pm »

I didn't take it in HS and had to take a summer class before my freshman year to be able to get into the UofA.

Weird that UA would.make it an entrance requirement.  But I also know UA was complaining about having to scale back bachelor's degrees to 120 credit hours.  So I guess not too surprising.
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2019, 06:14:02 pm »

I find it hard to believe that our coaching staff would spend as much effort on a Juco without knowing that he would be eligible. If Arkansas, Tennessee and Ole Miss spent time and money recruiting this kid without looking for college algebra on his transcript then we deserve exactly what we get!!!
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2019, 06:58:27 pm »

I think core classes are fine. The UofA requires math as a prerequisite for a lot of classes. Which makes sense as it is needed in almost every upper level class at some point for some reason
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2019, 07:10:03 pm »

I find it hard to believe that our coaching staff would spend as much effort on a Juco without knowing that he would be eligible. If Arkansas, Tennessee and Ole Miss spent time and money recruiting this kid without looking for college algebra on his transcript then we deserve exactly what we get!!!

They know it isn't there, what they don't know is it he can pass it......
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wachhog

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2019, 07:46:55 pm »

They know it isn't there, what they don't know is it he can pass it......
As somebody already mentioned, thereís always the University of Phoenix!
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ricepig

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2019, 07:49:33 pm »

As somebody already mentioned, thereís always the University of Phoenix!

You have to take the hours at the JUCO, or we would send him to South Idaho Jr College, like back in Eddie Sutton's day.
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2019, 08:39:55 pm »

You have to take the hours at the JUCO, or we would send him to South Idaho Jr College, like back in Eddie Sutton's day.

Playing pick up games @Westark counted as class time.
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2019, 11:58:42 am »

It's easy if you know how to do it. Not so much, if you don't.

 I had to struggle through Algebra. When I took a small trig coarse and saw math at work I went back and took Algebra again. I really wish teachers would explain that Algebra is akin to mathematical grammar, but with numbers instead of words. Once I understood that Algebra was to Physics what English class was to Comp/Lit etc... it made everything else cake. I couldn't prepare my mind to comprehend 4X had to do with anything, but the Pythagorean Theorem illuminated my mind to accept it... If I taught Algebra It would be lesson number 1...

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2019, 12:04:34 pm »

It is time for the SEC to get rid of the rule that doesn't allow some JC's to transfer in due to core classes.  Yet these same kids can get into most other power 5 schools.  CAL comes to mind on an OL that could not get in here, but got into a really good academic school.  Now hearing the Lakia Henry could pick FSU, because the ACC does not require college algebra as a requirement.

Reason 100000500000 why Arkansas ranks near the bottom of every educational ranking in the United States.

And itís Holier. Not hollier. Please stop giving educational advice and promoting what you feel should be the standard if you canít perform simple English and spelling.

howie76

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2019, 12:11:19 pm »

I've never used algebra one time in my adult life
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2019, 12:17:11 pm »

Reason 100000500000 why Arkansas ranks near the bottom of every educational ranking in the United States.

And itís Holier. Not hollier. Please stop giving educational advice and promoting what you feel should be the standard if you canít perform simple English and spelling.

Thank God for Mississippi! 

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2019, 12:18:07 pm »

Reason 100000500000 why Arkansas ranks near the bottom of every educational ranking in the United States.

And itís Holier. Not hollier. Please stop giving educational advice and promoting what you feel should be the standard if you canít perform simple English and spelling.

WOW speaking of holier than thou!

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2019, 12:20:04 pm »

WOW speaking of holier than thou!

If being able to speak, spell, and pass basic algebra is holier than thou, sign me up.

outlawhogeywells

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2019, 02:43:21 pm »

what I am talking about is the requirements to come to an SEC school out of JUCO are higher than for other power 5 conferences. 
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Hawghiggs

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2019, 04:13:04 pm »

 Time to move to the Big 12. That will show those smartass SEC programs.

outlawhogeywells

Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2019, 04:33:16 pm »

All I know is if a kid can qualify academically from a JUCO to go play football at CAL, then he should also be able to qualify to go to an SEC School.
Someone above was correct in it will never pass inside the SEC since it does not really benefit the BAMA, LSU, GA, type schools, since they have such huge recruiting backyards and in essence just say next.  But for the smaller schools that don't have huge recruiting backyards it would be a great help.
The reason I mention getting into CAL is, we lost a player a few years ago that could not get into ARK but did get into CAL

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2019, 08:57:14 am »

many colleges are substituting finite math for algebra for many majors. much more relevant to the practical world in most fields

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2019, 10:00:07 pm »

You have to take the hours at the JUCO, or we would send him to South Idaho Jr College, like back in Eddie Sutton's day.

And we know why he would have them go there.....at least some of us old ones do.
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2019, 10:04:54 pm »

I've never used algebra one time in my adult life

Maybe not but some people you have paid for something has.

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2019, 10:26:19 pm »

College Algebra isn't hard and most HS offer it.

My daughter failed it 4 times.
She had tutors and still could not get it.

She went to a scholl where it wasn't a requirement, graduated Magna cum Laude
She got accepted to grad school where they took 20 out of 250.

Algebra was not needed for her major which was psychology.
Some people just do not have the aptitude for math.
It is no reflection on intelligence

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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2019, 10:32:24 pm »

Look Alabama, Auburn, and LSU both bring in some kids that can't do junior high pre-algebra, yet somehow they qualify
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2019, 03:03:24 pm »

many colleges are substituting finite math for algebra for many majors. much more relevant to the practical world in most fields

What major college? I mean what Carnegie 100 university? I am as passionate a Razorback fan as anyone, but I would be surprised if there is a single major university that does not require college algebra to graduate.
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Re: SEC Hollier than thou rule
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2019, 09:24:44 am »

It is time for the SEC to get rid of the rule that doesn't allow some JC's to transfer in due to core classes.  Yet these same kids can get into most other power 5 schools.  CAL comes to mind on an OL that could not get in here, but got into a really good academic school.  Now hearing the Lakia Henry could pick FSU, because the ACC does not require college algebra as a requirement.


Keep in mind that the ACC is light years ahead of the SEC in academics, so what gives with these requirements?
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