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My 3 observations (fwiw)
« on: December 08, 2018, 04:45:58 pm »

1. MA's substitutions are still questionable.
2. Daniel must get stronger for the pros.
3. Desi could help us with more pt.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2018, 04:46:56 pm »

1. MA's substitutions are still questionable.
2. Daniel must get stronger for the pros.
3. Desi could help us with more pt.
1. You're too nice
2. Agreed
3. I like his game

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2018, 04:48:28 pm »

1. Understatement
2. Understatement
3. Understatement
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2018, 04:53:19 pm »

1. Biggest contributing factor in the loss today.
2. Yes, he'll get eaten up quick in the league as he currently is.
3. A bright spot in a dark 2nd half today.

HawgNthaWater

Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2018, 04:54:22 pm »

If we learn how to make free throws we are undefeated

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2018, 04:54:50 pm »

Make them and where talking about the W. This will continue to haunt us at home and on road.

FineAsSwine

Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2018, 04:55:19 pm »

If we learn how to make free throws we are undefeated

Great point

Mr. Porkleone

Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2018, 04:55:50 pm »

If we learn how to make free throws we are undefeated

The reason we lost. We will suffer many losses due to this

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2018, 04:56:04 pm »

Disappointing for sure. The reason we lost was free throw shooting.
The game was poorly officiated. A lot of no calls especially in the last 5 minutes. Also I counted traveling at least 14 times, buy both teams. Never called. 2 free throws, 1 shot. The difference.
First time in along time I yelled at the TV for basketball. I still like this team. Fun to watch. If they improve as the year goes on. Might be fun.   

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2018, 05:06:14 pm »

WK is a decent team.  Oh well Mike's team is young. 
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2018, 05:08:38 pm »

WK is a decent team.  Oh well Mike's team is young. 

Both losses so far have been on coaching, not youth.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2018, 05:09:24 pm »

1. Biggest contributing factor in the loss today.
2. Yes, he'll get eaten up quick in the league as he currently is.
3. A bright spot in a dark 2nd half today.

Few big men could survive in a game against a physical freak like the kid from WKU when the 3rd ref is missing and the game is allowed to very very physical.   Gafford needs to add some strength but today made it look worse than normal.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2018, 05:10:45 pm »

If we learn how to make free throws we are undefeated

Yup...both losses this season were by less than 3 points...we shot below 60% at the FT line both times

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2018, 06:06:48 pm »

Few big men could survive in a game against a physical freak like the kid from WKU when the 3rd ref is missing and the game is allowed to very very physical.   Gafford needs to add some strength but today made it look worse than normal.
Well, if he fancies himself an NBA center, games like this are what Gafford needs.  Heís got to toughen up.  His flop at the end cost us dearly.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2018, 06:13:57 pm »

Agree with all three points but would add a forth. If we continue to press without causing turnovers and giving up open threes because we are continually chasing the ball up the court there will be some blow outs in our future.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2018, 06:27:04 pm »

Agree with all three points but would add a forth. If we continue to press without causing turnovers and giving up open threes because we are continually chasing the ball up the court there will be some blow outs in our future.
Well I think you can forget about this, right or wrong he is going to continue to do it. I see some upside to it, but like you it sure seems we give up a lot of open looks from it.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2018, 06:30:07 pm »

1. MA's substitutions are still questionable.
2. Daniel must get stronger for the pros.
3. Desi could help us with more pt.

If Chaney had played three more minutes , we would have won by four.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2018, 06:30:48 pm »

1. We have no depth unfortunately
2. Agreed but still did some damage
3. Agreed , although Embry was hot last game so I donít blame him for playing him

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2018, 06:40:51 pm »

1. Free throws. If we shoot 60% we're 8-0.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2018, 06:46:37 pm »

WK is a decent team.  Oh well Mike's team is young. 

Lol ok. With losses to Missouri State, UCF, & Indiana State.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2018, 06:51:54 pm »

1. The right guys are playing the right amount of minutes.
2. Gafford will grow as he ages.
3. Desk today, yes. It was KEP last game.


WKU had that Savage kid hitting everything and we couldnít hit a three(besides Joe).

They played great. We played poorly. Yet we were still there with a chance to win at the end.

This year all depends on if we hit our stride late.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2018, 09:12:27 pm »

Well, if he fancies himself an NBA center, games like this are what Gafford needs.  Heís got to toughen up.  His flop at the end cost us dearly.

And not jump 50 feet in the air on pump fakes when no player alive can shoot that high so close to the rim
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2018, 09:25:37 pm »

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

My take away is poor free throw shooting is never acceptable. Whatever the harshest punishment MA gives out,  he should give it out any game we shoot less than 65% .  Any player averaging less than 65% should get extra workout/ punishment. 

Accepting poor free throw shooting shows laziness in any player and unacceptable coaching.

That's my only criticism this season.  Despite the laziness and unacceptable free throw problems, these guys are going to be good this year.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2018, 09:34:36 pm »

1. MA's substitutions are still questionable.
2. Daniel must get stronger for the pros.
3. Desi could help us with more pt.
1. Bailey should have played more down the stretch even though it wasn't his best game.
2. Gafford needs to man up and stop flopping around everywhere looking for help from the refs. I guess he really is auditioning for the NBA. ;D
3. If everybody on the team played with the heart, fight and intensity of Desi we would damn sure be hard to beat.
4. Make your free throws for God's sake!!!
5. Still one of the youngest teams in the NCAA. We'll be fine by the time conference play roles around. Nonconference is trial and error. Live and learn.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2018, 09:40:23 pm »

1. I wanted to see Desi for defensive purposes down the stretch
2. DG could be effective in the NBA right now. Of course being stronger would help but wouldnít it help anyone?
3. I want to see Desi and Joe play together more. That is our future.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2018, 09:41:00 pm »

1 boo
2 hoo
3 waaahhh!

We were off today. Make 2 more free throws and none of the other matters.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2018, 09:42:02 pm »

Both losses so far have been on coaching, not youth.

You are so tired man.  I hope you don't think anyone takes you seriously.  You sit around and don't say anything after wins, I'm on here daily, and rarely remember you're username appearing on anything, then I log and and catching up on post today, and I see you posting in nearly every thread being negative and taking shots at the coach, saying the same thing over and over again.  We get it you don't like coach Anderson, and you want to see him fail, move on.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2018, 09:46:41 pm »

Well, if he fancies himself an NBA center, games like this are what Gafford needs.  Heís got to toughen up.  His flop at the end cost us dearly.

Maybe he comes back for one more year. Hits the weights hard and strengthens his core, upper body and leg strength. Then takes his game to the pros on a much more sturdy frame. Nothing wrong with going to the league as a junior ala Rui Hachimura at Gonzaga.

Btw, for the longest I thought that Rui was a Japanese version of Yao Ming until I saw his picture.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2018, 09:47:21 pm »

Gafford says he came back to get better. Then people come on here and say he needs to get better and think theyíve enlightened us.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2018, 09:49:10 pm »

Make them and where talking about the W. This will continue to haunt us at home and on road.

Yes and will cost us more games as we go deeper in the season!

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2018, 09:55:43 pm »

Lol ok. With losses to Missouri State, UCF, & Indiana State.
And without their point guard and another starting guard getting tossed and at home.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2018, 10:00:23 pm »

#1 Sub patterns. I picked up the game at the 14:00 min. mark of first half and the announcers were saying how hot Joe was. I looked close and he wasnít on the floor? Typical Mike.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2018, 10:00:33 pm »

This is a game that the youth showed up and it was a learning experience ...it probably wonít be the last time that they learn a hard lesson this year...it builds character
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2018, 10:00:54 pm »

If we learn how to make free throws we are undefeated

You don't learn how to make free throws. It's a wide open 15 footer and these kids are on an athletic scholarship to a major program. It's mental. If basketball was about making free throws then the personnel of the NBA would look much different. 
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2018, 10:11:18 pm »

#1 Sub patterns. I picked up the game at the 14:00 min. mark of first half and the announcers were saying how hot Joe was. I looked close and he wasnít on the floor? Typical Mike.
Even Joe needs a rest every once in a while donít you think?

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2018, 10:13:46 pm »

Both losses so far have been on coaching, not youth.
Explain? Mike canít shoot free throws and Mike canít play defense. He can get in a little more ass though.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2018, 10:23:56 pm »

Even Joe needs a rest every once in a while donít you think?
He canít go more than 6 damn minutes?
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2018, 10:28:41 pm »

Explain? Mike canít shoot free throws and Mike canít play defense. He can get in a little more ass though.
He could call off a press that was causing NO turnovers but had 3 of our guys chasing the ball up the court allowing 3 on 2 situations and wide open 3ís. Thus the 55% WKU shooting in the second half.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2018, 10:39:54 pm »

You are so tired man.  I hope you don't think anyone takes you seriously.  You sit around and don't say anything after wins, I'm on here daily, and rarely remember you're username appearing on anything, then I log and and catching up on post today, and I see you posting in nearly every thread being negative and taking shots at the coach, saying the same thing over and over again.  We get it you don't like coach Anderson, and you want to see him fail, move on.

Good grief, do more reading of my post further back than today, Mr. Wannabeamod. I've probably been cheering for the hogs longer than your daddy, son, so don't tell me jack.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2018, 10:47:48 pm »

Explain? Mike canít shoot free throws and Mike canít play defense. He can get in a little more ass though.
WKU came out and erased the hogs halftime lead and went ahead themselves. Instead of recognizing now wasn't the time time stick to a predetermined sub pattern, Mike did anyway. We had next to no scoring on the court for several minutes while the hilltoppers built the lead up to 7-8 pts.? It was a calculated gamble coach lost, and it was unnecessary.
By the time he put the starters back in it was too late. They exerted all of their energy just to catch up and in the end the execution at the most critical moments fell short.
Thus this loss is on coaching. WKU is not a better more talented team overall, not at all. They basically have two really good players and better coaching today.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2018, 10:49:54 pm »

1. 28 bench points in our last win, only 13 today.
2. Only 10 assists on 30 made baskets.
3. Horrible start to the second half.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2018, 11:23:36 pm »

Mike is a seed killer in March. Loses too many games to poodles.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2018, 12:48:14 am »

Mike is a seed killer in March. Loses too many games to poodles.
First bad loss of the year. Weíll be fine.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2018, 12:49:19 am »

He canít go more than 6 damn minutes?
At the pace we want to play 6 straight minutes is a long time lol. Have you ever played full court basketball all out for 6 minutes nonstop? If not you wouldnít understand. Nevermind then.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2018, 12:50:56 am »

sorry but that is an offensive foul on Bassey on their go ahead score, followed by an over the back on Gaffords final catch and shoot.  To have this game ref'd by 2 people is criminal.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2018, 12:57:23 am »

You don't learn how to make free throws. It's a wide open 15 footer and these kids are on an athletic scholarship to a major program. It's mental. If basketball was about making free throws then the personnel of the NBA would look much different.
You can work on free throws and get better at it but itís all about want to as an individual.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2018, 12:59:00 am »

sorry but that is an offensive foul on Bassey on their go ahead score, followed by an over the back on Gaffords final catch and shoot.  To have this game ref'd by 2 people is criminal.
Yes sir. There were a lot of calls missed in the game that would have otherwise been seen by the 3rd official.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2018, 01:42:16 am »

sorry but that is an offensive foul on Bassey on their go ahead score, followed by an over the back on Gaffords final catch and shoot.  To have this game ref'd by 2 people is criminal.

DG flopped. It was sad to see. Bassey owned him.

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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2018, 02:40:23 am »

Both losses so far have been on coaching, not youth.

So if losses are on the coach then the wins so far have been as well right??

We playednbad today, the whole freakin game we did. At times it was worse than others but we never seemed to get in a groove today. His substitute patterns were different today because he was trying to find something that would work. Bench blows hardly at all. And as much as yíall seem to want it not to happen, the dang starters need a break. Especially freshmen. Too top it off the last 10 minutes played out pretty odd for us. Having on two refs impacted a lot of missed calls. Not an excuse because we should have taken advantage of that and we didnít. But a young team like this I expected to lose a game like this.
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Re: My 3 observations (fwiw)
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2018, 04:53:45 am »

Free throws really have been the difference , this team would be undefeated with decent percentage from the line, hopefully it will improve.
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