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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #100 on: November 10, 2018, 10:12:12 pm »

When the players run into each other behind the line of scrimmage, that is not a talent problem, it is a coaching problem and a lack of understanding on the players part.


If our coaches have to take time to coach our players not to run into one another we are worse off than I thought.


Cleary 2 guys who were confused.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #101 on: November 10, 2018, 10:13:06 pm »

Not to be 2-7 at this point in the season.

After only having two more than that last year, including a lucky win over Coastal Carolina?
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #102 on: November 10, 2018, 10:15:26 pm »

So you're pissed over a miscommunication on a play and something that happens to most teams, heck all teams throughout the year.

I know what you're talking about dawg.  But what about the 50 or so muffed snaps we've had this season?  I'm sure we set a NCAA record- somebody should check on that.  We didn't have a single one this game so that is a major victory.    Baby steps dawg ... rough rough.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #103 on: November 10, 2018, 10:17:59 pm »

I know what you're talking about dawg.  But what about the 50 or so muffed snaps we've had this season?  I'm sure we set a NCAA record- somebody should check on that.  We didn't have a single one this game so that is a major victory.    Baby steps dawg ... rough rough.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2018, 10:18:01 pm »

Terrible from top to bottom.
We were only playing the 7th ranked team in the country. And only lost by 7.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2018, 10:19:26 pm »

We were only playing the 7th ranked team in the country. And only lost by 7.

Put that in the moral victory column.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2018, 10:26:12 pm »

Someone is forgetting 2013, lol.

Look, I like Bret personally and I liked and defended him as a coach until TCU 2016. But he made this mess. This is a Kansas level mess and it's going to take years to fix.

I really don't understand why people want to cut bait with coaches so quickly. It reminds me of those guys who dump their girlfriends over piddling things and then wonder why they're 45 and lonely. You have to give the thing a chance to develop before you decide what to do.

There are at least a couple of posters (and maybe more) on this board that have been on Chad's backside from the day he was hired and they flatly refuse to give him a chance. Wanting a head coach gone during or after his first year is sheer stupidity.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2018, 10:51:32 pm »

Well I have noticed today 2 prior offensive coaches have been mentioned with high regards today. Enos with Alabama, and Cheney with Georgia. Meanwhile we don't have any coaches on our staff getting mentioned at all!!!! And by how we have played this whole year they should have all been fired!!!!!


Chaney looked completely inept in the red zone today. Looked very familiar.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2018, 10:54:24 pm »

Terrible from top to bottom.
Worst thread I've ever seen.

Top to bottom.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2018, 10:59:57 pm »

I know what you're talking about dawg.  But what about the 50 or so muffed snaps we've had this season?  I'm sure we set a NCAA record- somebody should check on that.  We didn't have a single one this game so that is a major victory.    Baby steps dawg ... rough rough.

I didn’t know Randy Jackson was a Razorback fan.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2018, 11:07:04 pm »

My brother and I talked about how this season stands in our memory.

One of the worst we can remember. We pretty much agreed that to us, it’s the worst
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2018, 11:09:23 pm »

My brother and I talked about how this season stands in our memory.

One of the worst we can remember. We pretty much agreed that to us, it’s the worst

Hard to beat the Johnelle year. So many expectations going in
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2018, 11:10:56 pm »

Hard to beat the Johnelle year. So many expectations going in

I didn’t say anything about underperforming.

Just absolutely the results. L. At least beat Auburn.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #113 on: November 10, 2018, 11:22:03 pm »

1990 was pretty bad. Coming off the Cotton Bowl. It was just so painful because of expectations.....then Citadel happened and our program was nowhere near competitive for 4-5 years.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #114 on: November 10, 2018, 11:23:13 pm »

There are at least a couple of posters (and maybe more) on this board that have been on Chad's backside from the day he was hired and they flatly refuse to give him a chance. Wanting a head coach gone during or after his first year is sheer stupidity.
There is always a few critics for any new head coach.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #115 on: November 10, 2018, 11:26:24 pm »

So what will be the excuse in year three when they have "their players"

See mike Anderson for your answer
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2018, 11:39:03 pm »

Well I have noticed today 2 prior offensive coaches have been mentioned with high regards today. Enos with Alabama, and Cheney with Georgia. Meanwhile we don't have any coaches on our staff getting mentioned at all!!!! And by how we have played this whole year they should have all been fired!!!!!

Stupidest move ever to cut Enos in favor of a 32yo with NO SEC experience, barely out of a GA gig.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2018, 11:46:15 pm »

2-11...Never did I think the hogs would put up a 2 win season. Never ever! Thanks, Jerry and BOT!
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2018, 11:54:41 pm »

Too many were afraid Kiffen might end up boning their women for us to hire the right man for this job.  Kiffen was the correct hire.  Joey Freshwater banging a few booster wives and daughters was a price worth paying.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2018, 12:03:12 am »

Is there some kind of unwritten rule that I am not aware of which says we throw on first down, run on second down, throw on third down, and then punt? Same plays, same results.

I will say, though, that two guys from the same team trying to take the handoff on the same play all while tackling each other was quite entertaining.

The minute they showed that replay, I thought..."Can they call targeting if we hit our own player?"   ;D

It looked worse than it was.  There was a defender closing in on the ball carrier, and he tried to go backward, so he ran into Boyd.  I can't remember who had the ball, but it was his change of direction that caused the collision.  Still...I'll never understand why our coaches try to run wide against defensed like LSU and Bama when we don't have a ball carrier that is as fast as their defenders.  It's like saying..."Here, tackles us behind the line of scrimmage please."   ::)
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #120 on: November 11, 2018, 12:06:16 am »

Too many were afraid Kiffen might end up boning their women for us to hire the right man for this job.  Kiffen was the correct hire.  Joey Freshwater banging a few booster wives and daughters was a price worth paying.

You act like Kiffin is a good coach.  Your man crush is showing. 
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #121 on: November 11, 2018, 12:25:24 am »

Too many were afraid Kiffen might end up boning their women for us to hire the right man for this job.  Kiffen was the correct hire.  Joey Freshwater banging a few booster wives and daughters was a price worth paying.

Kiffin is 5-5 this year in the C-USA. Why do people think he’d automatically be a great SEC HC based on his track record as a head coach?
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #122 on: November 11, 2018, 12:28:58 am »

So what will be the excuse in year three when they have "their players"
Go to Jump Ball. We are on year 8
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #123 on: November 11, 2018, 12:51:00 am »

I'm having a really hard time keeping faith that Morris is the right guy.  This team just looks totally outclassed and unprepared. 
And in Morris’ considered opinion, he had the team so well prepared and disciplined that he felt comfortable skedadling on down to Texas last Fri-Sat-Sunday for a deer hunting trip instead of polishing his team and game plan for the upcoming last season home game of his then embarrassing 2-7 season.
Razorback fans, players and the state deserve much better.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #124 on: November 11, 2018, 01:12:34 am »

Too many were afraid Kiffen might end up boning their women for us to hire the right man for this job.  Kiffen was the correct hire.  Joey Freshwater banging a few booster wives and daughters was a price worth paying.

As long as it somebody else's wife and daughter, amirite?
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #125 on: November 11, 2018, 01:28:33 am »

It's like some people actively work to be morons.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #126 on: November 11, 2018, 01:28:42 am »

WAH!   WAH!   WAH!

We 're not going to win a Conference Championship or a National Championship in Morris' first season as Head Coach!!!

WAH!!!   WAH!!!  WAH!!!

Tar and feather Morris, run him out of Fayyeteville on a rail, string him up by the gonads and execute by firing squad at dawn!

WAH!!!   WAH!!!   WAH!!!


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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #127 on: November 11, 2018, 01:59:02 am »

I'm fine with this loss. It's the non conference losses that I find unacceptable.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #128 on: November 11, 2018, 02:09:49 am »


We 're not going to win a Conference Championship or a National Championship in Morris' first season as Head Coach!!!


No reasonable fan expected either to happen.  However, it's just as obtuse that guys like you spout this crap every time someone says they think Morris is in over his head. 

Only a complete fool would think that a 2 win season was acceptable.  Is it some combination of Bert hangover, new coaching philosophy,  level of talent, some players not buying in, not having players that fit his style, Jeff Long, foosball is the devil... blah, blah, blah?  Yes, to any and all excuses the Morris cheering section wants to insert.  Happy now?  Good. 

So now that is out of the way, can we also acknowledge that there have been enough WTH moments that were directly related to playcalling and other decisions that fall squarely on coaching to have some level of concern?  I have yet to see anything remotely "hammer down" or "full tilt boogie", which is the line we were sold by Morris, unless those now mean something else in High School (like bad or stupid meaning the exact opposite). 

For the sake of the program, I hope he gets his darn together.  He is going to be our coach for the next couple of years regardless, but its reasonable to see there's enough smoke to at least suspect there may be a fire.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #129 on: November 11, 2018, 02:22:24 am »

And in Morris’ considered opinion, he had the team so well prepared and disciplined that he felt comfortable skedadling on down to Texas last Fri-Sat-Sunday for a deer hunting trip instead of polishing his team and game plan for the upcoming last season home game of his then embarrassing 2-7 season.
Razorback fans, players and the state deserve much better.

I'm thrilled some folks are coming around.

The CCM apologists are beginning to look like they don't grasp reality.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #130 on: November 11, 2018, 06:22:22 am »

I wasn't expecting a win. I was expecting rb not to tackle his own receiver. I don't expect 2 false starts on punts. I expect more than 61 yards of offense in a half 
Of all the rookie SEC HCs, I'm pretty certain Morris underachieved with the "friendliest" schedule.  He might have the worst W-L record in the nation this year, just saying.
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« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2018, 06:35:18 am »

Terrible from top to bottom.

You should stop sniffing glue.  ;)
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« Reply #132 on: November 11, 2018, 06:46:59 am »

BS to you. We won 4 games last year while that tubby bastard had his own players that he recruited and had been in place 5 seasons. Chad has less than one season and the crumbs of a recruiting class left over by the previously mentioned mumu windbreaker wearing loser.
Brett's players could field punts. Brett's teams didn't fall for fake fair catch plays.  Brett's defense gave effort.  Brett's eams didn't give up 1st play Tds.  Same kids...time to be honest fundamentals are lacking.  Morris needs to find a few new coaches or he will be gone.
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« Reply #133 on: November 11, 2018, 07:11:21 am »

Brett's players could field punts. Brett's teams didn't fall for fake fair catch plays.  Brett's defense gave effort.  Brett's eams didn't give up 1st play Tds.  Same kids...time to be honest fundamentals are lacking.  Morris needs to find a few new coaches or he will be gone.

BS.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #134 on: November 11, 2018, 07:36:25 am »

You should stop sniffing glue.  ;)

And the homers are out of the pen...
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #135 on: November 11, 2018, 07:38:23 am »

And the homers are out of the pen...

Well if you realists would lay off the glue then we would stay in our pen.  ;)
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #136 on: November 11, 2018, 07:40:04 am »

Well if you realists would lay off the glue then we would stay in our pen.  ;)

So just exactly where do you see the good in this team?
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #137 on: November 11, 2018, 07:41:55 am »

If one wants to see some poor boneheaded coaching just watch the early part of the Miss State-Alabama game. Miss State forced a clear fumble and recovered it but the officials rule the ball carrier down. The clueless Miss State coach didn't even challenge the call. Talk about stupid!!
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« Reply #138 on: November 11, 2018, 07:53:21 am »

Put that in the moral victory column.

Exactly! And their running back slid two times at the goal line on the last drive in an effort NOT to score.   Scoreboard, which I admit is all that technically counts, does not tell the whole story. 

Anybody watching that game from start to finish knows we were never in that game and also should be shaking their heads as to how LSU somehow is considered the 7th ranked team in the country.    IMO they are a good team, but not just last night, but in several games they clearly do not look like the 7th best team in the country.   

As a Razorback fan I don't much positive from this game and if I'm were an LSU fan I would not be thrilled with the performance.   Basically a lose-lose for both fan base.   

However, if the "we only lost by 7 to the #7 ranked team in the country" line works in a positive way that helps land a recruit or any other positive way for the Hogs, then sure, I'm all for repeating it over and over.

One thing good for me is that it reminded me why I stopped a very long time ago betting on sports.    The line was around -12 or -13 LSU.   Talk about an epic bad beat if you had LSU minus the points.   Back in the day I would have been yelling and screaming that fix was in, there was point shaving going on and where is the FBI to investigate.   

No, I don't think for a second there was even a .001% chance that was point shaving, but when you have money riding a game, those type of plays at the end will drive you insane, because you will never remember the times you got lucky on such plays and won.   
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #139 on: November 11, 2018, 08:01:20 am »

A 33 yo OC with very little experience, and looking lost,  just like the last regime, gives me no faith in this guy.
Arkansas is getting what it paid for with this coaching staff. They are going to go 2-10. Ouch.
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« Reply #140 on: November 11, 2018, 08:03:16 am »

And in Morris’ considered opinion, he had the team so well prepared and disciplined that he felt comfortable skedadling on down to Texas last Fri-Sat-Sunday for a deer hunting trip instead of polishing his team and game plan for the upcoming last season home game of his then embarrassing 2-7 season.
Razorback fans, players and the state deserve much better.
Bingo!
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« Reply #141 on: November 11, 2018, 08:03:47 am »

Arkansas is getting what it paid for with this coaching staff.
And there is a good argument we are being ripped off.
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« Reply #142 on: November 11, 2018, 08:03:53 am »

Arkansas is getting what it paid for with this coaching staff. They are going to go 2-10. Ouch.

Lay off the glue my friend. You only have 3 brain cells left which is 2 more than I have.  ;)
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« Reply #143 on: November 11, 2018, 08:10:01 am »

No reasonable fan expected either to happen.  However, it's just as obtuse that guys like you spout this crap every time someone says they think Morris is in over his head. 

Only a complete fool would think that a 2 win season was acceptable.  Is it some combination of Bert hangover, new coaching philosophy,  level of talent, some players not buying in, not having players that fit his style, Jeff Long, foosball is the devil... blah, blah, blah?  Yes, to any and all excuses the Morris cheering section wants to insert.  Happy now?  Good. 

So now that is out of the way, can we also acknowledge that there have been enough WTH moments that were directly related to playcalling and other decisions that fall squarely on coaching to have some level of concern?  I have yet to see anything remotely "hammer down" or "full tilt boogie", which is the line we were sold by Morris, unless those now mean something else in High School (like bad or stupid meaning the exact opposite). 

For the sake of the program, I hope he gets his darn together.  He is going to be our coach for the next couple of years regardless, but its reasonable to see there's enough smoke to at least suspect there may be a fire.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #144 on: November 11, 2018, 12:28:04 pm »

Yeah, but this team needs to have the cancers removed. There's still some there.
Yet our coach keeps starting and playing those same guys.
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« Reply #145 on: November 11, 2018, 12:31:57 pm »

As long as it somebody else's wife and daughter, amirite?

He can have my girlfriend if he wins enough games.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #146 on: November 11, 2018, 12:39:44 pm »

No reasonable fan expected either to happen.  However, it's just as obtuse that guys like you spout this crap every time someone says they think Morris is in over his head. 

Only a complete fool would think that a 2 win season was acceptable.  Is it some combination of Bert hangover, new coaching philosophy,  level of talent, some players not buying in, not having players that fit his style, Jeff Long, foosball is the devil... blah, blah, blah?  Yes, to any and all excuses the Morris cheering section wants to insert.  Happy now?  Good. 

So now that is out of the way, can we also acknowledge that there have been enough WTH moments that were directly related to playcalling and other decisions that fall squarely on coaching to have some level of concern?  I have yet to see anything remotely "hammer down" or "full tilt boogie", which is the line we were sold by Morris, unless those now mean something else in High School (like bad or stupid meaning the exact opposite). 

For the sake of the program, I hope he gets his darn together.  He is going to be our coach for the next couple of years regardless, but its reasonable to see there's enough smoke to at least suspect there may be a fire.

No, it isn't reasonable to see any smoke in the middle of a new Head coach's first season to indicate that his time might be short, that's just plain silly.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #147 on: November 11, 2018, 12:43:41 pm »

This thread is a microcosm of the stupidity of some on here, top to bottom.
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #148 on: November 11, 2018, 12:50:59 pm »

Put that in the moral victory column.
Whats the NCAA record for those?
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Re: Worst coached Razorback team since I don't know when
« Reply #149 on: November 11, 2018, 01:04:13 pm »

I see this season 2 ways... Morris inherited a program with a huge mess not of his own making. He didn't cause the QBs to be undeveloped, and unprepared for the SEC. He didn't cause the oline to be a cobbled together patchwork of guys that probably wouldn't make 2nd or 3rd string on most SEC teams. This isn't his fault, or his doing.

But it is his fault that coaching isn't where it should be. He's the leader of the program. He has to have his team ready to play. I think him and craddock are like most 1st year coaches for most SEC programs... They're unprepared for how tough the SEC is.

I wish we had gone after Pruitt actually. He's a former SEC DC that might've been able to toughen this team up, have them prepared. But we have Morris. And he will learn for this year, sign a great class, and prepare for next year. Hopefully build on much better to come. We will see.
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