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Mr. Porkleone

Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:42:08 pm »

Good kid, but teams no when he is in, interceptions are coming. He will transfer at end of season with what’s on way. That last pass to end the comeback??? Who’s he throwing to?

Razor_back

Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2018, 10:43:39 pm »

Too slow (led to sack). And too slow or terrible decision making. And a propensity to sail the pass.

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BassinHawg

Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2018, 10:44:00 pm »

And Morris is clueless about SEC football.
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Mr. Porkleone

Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2018, 10:44:10 pm »

Too slow (led to sack). And too slow or terrible decision making. And a propensity to sail the pass.


Well said.
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checkraiser88

Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2018, 10:44:47 pm »

Good kid, but teams no when he is in, interceptions are coming. He will transfer at end of season with what’s on way. That last pass to end the comeback??? Who’s he throwing to?

We knew that after the North Texas game. However he's a good situational QB at goal line and 3rd and shorts..
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2018, 10:45:05 pm »

Good kid, but teams no when he is in, interceptions are coming. He will transfer at end of season with what’s on way. That last pass to end the comeback??? Who’s he throwing to?

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2018, 10:45:07 pm »

He's our third team QB but got in the game over our second team QB?

That didn't make sense.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2018, 10:45:58 pm »

Neither is Storey. He can run better.  No passing game to WRs with him.  We missed Boyd.  We missed creativity in the second half.
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Razor_back

Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2018, 10:46:52 pm »

And Morris is clueless about SEC football.

Nah.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2018, 10:47:28 pm »

He's our third team QB but got in the game over our second team QB?

That didn't make sense.

They said he was getting the 2nd team practice snaps. Not that he was officially the 2nd string QB. I was wondering about that too. Here's the depth chart that was released:



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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2018, 10:48:55 pm »

Wasted a lot of reps, on him in the fall. Reps should half gone to Storey & Noland

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2018, 10:49:16 pm »

DUH.... ?
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2018, 10:52:55 pm »

Good kid, but teams no when he is in, interceptions are coming. He will transfer at end of season with what’s on way. That last pass to end the comeback??? Who’s he throwing to?

well he's had a dwi that he pled guilty to so (good kid v. bad kid) seems more like dumb kid v. dumb kid.  I've been there.  I wish him well too, lol
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2018, 10:54:31 pm »

Neither is Storey. He can run better.  No passing game to WRs with him.  We missed Boyd.  We missed creativity in the second half.

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Every drive scored points. Zero punts.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2018, 10:56:18 pm »

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2018, 10:59:35 pm »

Good kid, but teams no when he is in, interceptions are coming. He will transfer at end of season with what’s on way. That last pass to end the comeback??? Who’s he throwing to?

Fact! None of ark qb's are sec caliber.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2018, 10:59:51 pm »

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Ty 5.2 yards per pass outside of pass to Boyd.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2018, 10:59:57 pm »

Ty led the team to points on every possession. He is an SEC caliber QB. We win even without Boyd and Whaley if TY doesn't get hurt.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2018, 11:00:38 pm »

Ty lead the team to points on every possession. He is an SEC caliber QB. We win even without Boyd and Whaley if TY doesn't get hurt.

Doubt it. Maybe he scrambles for a first down.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2018, 11:04:56 pm »

Ty led the team to points on every possession. He is an SEC caliber QB. We win even without Boyd and Whaley if TY doesn't get hurt.

That's probably a stretch. We needed the running game. But who knows. I would have liked to see this offense put up points all 4 quarters.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2018, 11:12:35 pm »

That's probably a stretch. We needed the running game. But who knows. I would have liked to see this offense put up points all 4 quarters.
Gotta put up more points than that in the second half these days.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2018, 11:13:07 pm »

He has a nice arm. Not sure where it is going, of course.

If Pettway catches his drop on the 1st down skinny post (next to last series) he isn't going to score, but moving 25 yards down the field and bleeding an extra 40 seconds just might have been enough. That pass was where Pettway wants it.

Totally don't get it: either the announcers are way wrong, or Morris got the yips about bringing in Noland. Not fair to Noland, not fair to Kelley (to not rep the actual playbook for the game), and not fair to the offense. OR, maybe the announcers got it wrong.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2018, 11:13:58 pm »

Good kid, but teams no when he is in, interceptions are coming. He will transfer at end of season with what’s on way. That last pass to end the comeback??? Who’s he throwing to?

He didn't know who he was throwing it to. I blame it on the white helmets.  He'll either transfer or switch to tight end although I think he's too slow for tight end.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2018, 11:18:26 pm »

I’m afraid Cole is too slow for OG.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2018, 11:19:11 pm »

He didn't know who he was throwing it to. I blame it on the white helmets.  He'll either transfer or switch to tight end although I think he's too slow for tight end.

He knew.  He sailed it.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2018, 11:21:00 pm »

He has a nice arm. Not sure where it is going, of course.

If Pettway catches his drop on the 1st down skinny post (next to last series) he isn't going to score, but moving 25 yards down the field and bleeding an extra 40 seconds just might have been enough. That pass was where Pettway wants it.

Totally don't get it: either the announcers are way wrong, or Morris got the yips about bringing in Noland. Not fair to Noland, not fair to Kelley (to not rep the actual playbook for the game), and not fair to the offense. OR, maybe the announcers got it wrong.
I agree, either the announcers were wrong or some explanation is needed.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2018, 11:21:12 pm »

He knew.  He sailed it.
Well, you can't do that in that situation.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2018, 11:21:46 pm »

Well, you can't do that in that situation.

Agreed. He made a bad throw.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2018, 11:22:23 pm »

And the ol isnt, neither are the wrs or the back 7 on defense, so he fits right in.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2018, 11:30:23 pm »

If your going to put the game on Kelly, then give him the 2nd team reps.  If we were going to get conservative then put him under center.  At least we could use jet sweeps and short play action, at least the threat of it.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2018, 11:33:35 pm »

How many times did we go under center?
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2018, 11:38:01 pm »

Zero.  I kept thinking we would due to the high snaps.  We did against Alabama, that’s the only time I recall us being under center this year.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2018, 11:39:35 pm »

Does anyone else notice Cole's windup when he throws the ball. Not a quick release at all and may cause him to sail a lot of his throws.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2018, 11:42:38 pm »

And Morris is clueless about SEC football.
And at one point and time a lot of the other coaches in the SEC were as well. You've gotta walk before you run. The man came in and scooped up a 4-8 team and is trying to mold them to fit his offense. If he was to bend and mold his offense to what he's been dealt he'd never get his style installed. Give him a few years and watch the turn around. Next year is just the tip of the iceberg.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2018, 11:50:08 pm »

And at one point and time a lot of the other coaches in the SEC were as well. You've gotta walk before you run. The man came in and scooped up a 4-8 team and is trying to mold them to fit his offense. If he was to bend and mold his offense to what he's been dealt he'd never get his style installed. Give him a few years and watch the turn around. Next year is just the tip of the iceberg.
I agree with classes like one vomiting brighter days are ahead
BUT
1. He gave this game away with decision making
Noland
2. Too scared to pass when running game was working and put game away
3. Once running game went away kept running the same play
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2018, 11:54:48 pm »

He's not the OC. I realize everything goes through him in the end but his staff has to learn what will and won't work just like our players. I have no answer as far as Noland goes but there's bound to be some story there.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2018, 11:59:40 pm »

Cole might not be the best QB im America but that young man has accepted his role, and supports his teammates. He seems to be a great kid.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2018, 12:03:32 am »

Ty led the team to points on every possession. He is an SEC caliber QB. We win even without Boyd and Whaley if TY doesn't get hurt.

I've had a good feeling about Ty, just watching him the past 4 games. But his numbers have been solid--look at what he did vs Alabama. He may not be first or second team All-SEC, but he's proven to me he belongs.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2018, 12:16:12 am »

There are many players on this roster that are not SEC caliber.  Bielema lazily brought them in and now time has to flush them out.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2018, 12:23:28 am »

Wasted a lot of reps, on him in the fall. Reps should half gone to Storey & Noland

Not really...Noland is our future, no need to burn a redshirt Serves no purpose...Although CK is not "IT" obviously. Playing him in game now allows us to bring CN along slowly take reps "in practice" with the 2nd team. Next year CK most likely wont see the field.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2018, 12:24:38 am »

Cole beat OM last year including game winning drive as RS Fr.

Doubt Noland is our future in football.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2018, 12:26:28 am »

Cole beat OM last year including game winning drive as RS Fr.

Doubt Noland is our future in football.

I dont, otherwise he would be playing.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2018, 12:47:34 am »

He knew.  He sailed it.
I just watched it live but looked like someone broke to the sideline as the pass was getting to the safety
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2018, 12:58:28 am »

Whats funny is people want to ignore the TD pass coming in cold off the bench. They want ignore the perfect strike to Petway for a 1st down. Ignore the perfect slant that Petway would ave run for days with had he not dropped it. But then they focus on a pick thrown down 4 needing 72 yards in 30 seconds with only 1 timeout.

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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2018, 01:03:19 am »

Whats funny is people want to ignore the TD pass coming in cold off the bench. They want ignore the perfect strike to Petway for a 1st down. Ignore the perfect slant that Petway would ave run for days with had he not dropped it. But then they focus on a pick thrown down 4 needing 72 yards in 30 seconds with only 1 timeout.

Petway dropped it because he slung that thing way to strong, no touch at all on the throw
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2018, 01:04:53 am »

Petway dropped it because he slung that thing way to strong, no touch at all on the throw

that's how you throw a slant.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2018, 01:07:23 am »

Whats funny is people want to ignore the TD pass coming in cold off the bench. They want ignore the perfect strike to Petway for a 1st down. Ignore the perfect slant that Petway would ave run for days with had he not dropped it. But then they focus on a pick thrown down 4 needing 72 yards in 30 seconds with only 1 timeout.

What is his total for INTs on the season? Do you see a pattern here?
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2018, 01:11:57 am »

Whats funny is people want to ignore the TD pass coming in cold off the bench. They want ignore the perfect strike to Petway for a 1st down. Ignore the perfect slant that Petway would ave run for days with had he not dropped it. But then they focus on a pick thrown down 4 needing 72 yards in 30 seconds with only 1 timeout.

All good points, but most people believe Kelley's limitations will catch up to us eventually.

The Pettway drop was THE killer. I thought when it happened, we may not have a chance for such a big gainer as that. On the replays, could the safety have turned and caught him? Don't think so. Man, all I could see was the amount of green in front of him. That play most likely ices the game.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2018, 01:17:00 am »

Kelley frustrates me because he’ll throw a pass with pinpoint accuracy like the one to Pettway and a few in the CSU game, and then he will miss an open receiver by 20 yards. I like him as a short yardage bulldozer but it’s like he gets the yips on some of his throws.
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Re: Fact...Cole Kelly not a SEC caliber QB
« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2018, 01:29:05 am »

Ty led the team to points on every possession. He is an SEC caliber QB. We win even without Boyd and Whaley if TY doesn't get hurt.
I believe we win if we have one of those three hurt players in the game at the end!
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