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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rules-changes-ncaa-makes-major-changes-in-wake-of-fbi-probe/

All players who declare for the NBA Draft but go undrafted will have the option to return to their former school.

Elite prospects will now be allowed to have official relationships with agents. This applies to high schoolers and college athletes alike. USA Basketball will be tasked with identifying which prospects in a given class are "elite."

The NCAA is requiring all school presidents, chancellors and athletics staff members to contractually comply with any and all future investigations. This is the NCAA's way of trying to institute a de facto version of subpoena power, which it lacked previously.

School presidents and chancellors will now personally be held accountable by the NCAA for their athletic departments abiding by the rules.

The FBI's case into college basketball brought about mounds of documents of information. Previously, the NCAA did not allow for information and findings from outside investigations at established agencies to be used in its infractions process. Effective immediately, the NCAA and its Committee on Infractions can use information obtained in other probes as a means to an end for its own investigations. This will be implemented immediately by the NCAA with the schools currently caught up in the Department of Justice's case regarding multiple schools and alleged violation of multiple federal laws.

The recruiting calendar, as detailed here, is getting a major overhaul. In a first, college coaches will be allowed to attend the NBA Players Association Top 100 camp each June. Also, the first live period of July will be attendable for non-scholastic events.

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All players who declare for the NBA Draft but go undrafted will have the option to return to their former school.

I'm guessing we'll see a lot more players declare now.

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Elite prospects will now be allowed to have official relationships with agents. This applies to high schoolers and college athletes alike. USA Basketball will be tasked with identifying which prospects in a given class are "elite."

This is really interesting but fairly vague. Does this help smaller schools lure elite players (especially in-state) that otherwise felt it necessary to go to a blue blood for their best shot at the league?

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interesting. having coaches attend the NBPA 100 camp looks like it could become a darn show of recruiting violations. all i see here is the rich getting richer.

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So no sanctions against the cheater schools?
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What? "It"?

That the NCAA could and should remove the restrictions regarding coming back to school after going undrafted.

No doing so has had a negative impact on teams and the game IMO.
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That the NCAA could and should remove the restrictions regarding coming back to school after going undrafted.

No doing so has had a negative impact on teams and the game IMO.

I agree, but how does this work in recruiting? A player will declare in April or May then have to wait til the end of June to see if they are drafted. Will coaches be required to hold their spot? Will the late signing period get moved to June? What if a coach expects a player to be drafted, signs a recruit, the kid doesn't get his name called... This could get confusing and it seems like it could really impact teams more than before.

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It all sounds like a very complicated cluster-flop, with numerous lawsuits waiting to happen.
What in the hell is wrong with the NCAA?! Why are they so inept?! There is a very easy fix for all of this.

1. Get the NBA to lower the age restriction to 18 (which may or may not be so easy, but I'm betting the NBA would do it to get the best players as soon as possible).
2. Establish a rule that states any high school prep player that declares for the NBA draft and signs with an agent, foregoes any college eligibility, and it is not the NCAA's concern whether that player gets drafted or not.
3. Any high school prep player that has declared for the NBA draft but does not sign with an agent, or, is released from their contract with an agent, that does not get drafted or decides to attend college, will be allowed to sign a LOI with that players chosen school. The player cannot have contact with an agent until their third year removed from high school (See #4).
4. Any high school prep player that signs with a school, is not draft eligible for three years (and the NCAA should do what they can to get the NBA to agree to this). This is the exact same rules that college baseball and the MLB follow, and it works great! There is no reason to think it wouldn't work for basketball as well.

The testing the NBA waters things can be worked out, but I believe this would work. Leave it to the NCAA to muddy the waters.

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Don't fully understand the reasoning for "elite" prospects being able to have contact with agents and others not.
USA basketball defines who is "elite". Bet there will be some challenges to that.

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It all sounds like a very complicated cluster-flop, with numerous lawsuits waiting to happen.
What in the hell is wrong with the NCAA?! Why are they so inept?! There is a very easy fix for all of this.

1. Get the NBA to lower the age restriction to 18 (which may or may not be so easy, but I'm betting the NBA would do it to get the best players as soon as possible).
2. Establish a rule that states any high school prep player that declares for the NBA draft and signs with an agent, foregoes any college eligibility, and it is not the NCAA's concern whether that player gets drafted or not.
3. Any high school prep player that has declared for the NBA draft but does not sign with an agent, or, is released from their contract with an agent, that does not get drafted or decides to attend college, will be allowed to sign a LOI with that players chosen school. The player cannot have contact with an agent until their third year removed from high school (See #4).
4. Any high school prep player that signs with a school, is not draft eligible for three years (and the NCAA should do what they can to get the NBA to agree to this). This is the exact same rules that college baseball and the MLB follow, and it works great! There is no reason to think it wouldn't work for basketball as well.

The testing the NBA waters things can be worked out, but I believe this would work. Leave it to the NCAA to muddy the waters.
that's a pretty solid plan. which almost guarantees it will never happen.
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Don't fully understand the reasoning for "elite" prospects being able to have contact with agents and others not.
USA basketball defines who is "elite". Bet there will be some challenges to that.

This literally allows Kentucky, Duke, etc, to offer enticements to the kids they currently recruit without fear of discipline, not that they have much fear now.
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I agree, but how does this work in recruiting? A player will declare in April or May then have to wait til the end of June to see if they are drafted. Will coaches be required to hold their spot? Will the late signing period get moved to June? What if a coach expects a player to be drafted, signs a recruit, the kid doesn't get his name called... This could get confusing and it seems like it could really impact teams more than before.

Good recruiters will adjust.Others will act shellshocked and their fans will say the good recruiters, "Cheated."
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Good recruiters will adjust.Others will act shellshocked and their fans will say the good recruiters, "Cheated."

It's going to hurt the schools that have borderline kids (the ones that may or may not get drafted) - I guess you're supposed to hold that players scholarship and when they get drafted there you sit, short a player and it's June. Good recruiter or not - how do you overcome that.
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So no sanctions against the cheater schools?

This part...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rules-changes-ncaa-makes-major-changes-in-wake-of-fbi-probe/

The FBI's case into college basketball brought about mounds of documents of information. Previously, the NCAA did not allow for information and findings from outside investigations at established agencies to be used in its infractions process. Effective immediately, the NCAA and its Committee on Infractions can use information obtained in other probes as a means to an end for its own investigations. This will be implemented immediately by the NCAA with the schools currently caught up in the Department of Justice's case regarding multiple schools and alleged violation of multiple federal laws.


Would seem to indicate punishment may still be forthcoming.
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