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Ragnow
« on: June 30, 2018, 10:58:16 pm »

For those in the know, why was Ragnow so highly regarded?  I see comments about how horrendous our OL was last year, but Frank was right there in the middle of it.  How can someone get a good assessment of an OL player when everyone else around him made up the horrendous OL people speak of? 

Is it the number of Pancake blocks?  Knock downs?  QB protects?  If another OL player is terrible, wouldn’t that open another OLineman for additional stats?  Just trying to understand what the scouts were seeing.

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Re: Ragnow
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2018, 11:17:59 pm »

For those in the know, why was Ragnow so highly regarded?  I see comments about how horrendous our OL was last year, but Frank was right there in the middle of it.  How can someone get a good assessment of an OL player when everyone else around him made up the horrendous OL people speak of? 

Is it the number of Pancake blocks?  Knock downs?  QB protects?  If another OL player is terrible, wouldn’t that open another OLineman for additional stats?  Just trying to understand what the scouts were seeing.

He graded high. Very versatile... Didn't miss blocks, has quick feet, can flip his hips and square up very well, doesn't have short arms like Tretola.

He's a very good lineman. Froholdt will likely be a really good one too.

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Re: Ragnow
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2018, 08:21:31 am »

For those in the know, why was Ragnow so highly regarded?  I see comments about how horrendous our OL was last year, but Frank was right there in the middle of it.  How can someone get a good assessment of an OL player when everyone else around him made up the horrendous OL people speak of? 

Is it the number of Pancake blocks?  Knock downs?  QB protects?  If another OL player is terrible, wouldn’t that open another OLineman for additional stats?  Just trying to understand what the scouts were seeing.

Lines have to play as a unit but they also have to hold down their individual responsibilities. He did that last part extremely well. Heck even if it was a running call up the middle and he pancaked his guy if the guy next to him whiffed or didn’t block well or if the D stacked the line then chances are the runner isn’t going to gain any yards.

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Re: Ragnow
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2018, 07:46:10 pm »

For those in the know, why was Ragnow so highly regarded?  I see comments about how horrendous our OL was last year, but Frank was right there in the middle of it.  How can someone get a good assessment of an OL player when everyone else around him made up the horrendous OL people speak of? 

Is it the number of Pancake blocks?  Knock downs?  QB protects?  If another OL player is terrible, wouldn’t that open another OLineman for additional stats?  Just trying to understand what the scouts were seeing.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/08/pff-frank-ragnow-can-be-immediate-impact-player/
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Re: Ragnow
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 01:15:36 pm »

I see comments about how horrendous our OL was last year,
The comments you see on this board and others are from those that don't know jack squat.  They only know what Coach Phil N DeBlank told them in the 6th grade.   Individual talent wasn't bad at all, the coaches didn't put them in a scheme that would allow them to succeed

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Re: Ragnow
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 01:26:52 pm »

the coaches didn't put them in a scheme that would allow them to succeed
Which was compounded by the lack of conditioning, the inability to identify and utilize talent, and horrible attitude.
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Re: Ragnow
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 01:56:06 pm »

Ragnow is solid proof that coaching is critical at that level.  Talent in the OL depth chart was not the major issue.  That only leaves one other option.
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Re: Ragnow
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 10:32:34 pm »

Ragnow is solid proof that coaching is critical at that level.  Talent in the OL depth chart was not the major issue.  That only leaves one other option.

At any level tbh. Heck, look at the Rams in the NFL or the Saints without Sean Peyton. First ballot NFL HoF lock qb and without a proper HC the team tanked. Rams went from a team that was consistently really "close" to one that actually struck fear into the hearts of opponents in a single season turnaround.

Looking  more specifically at the college level and the OL, our week 1 projected starting OL wasn't too far off from Bama's in terms of demonstrated talent, experience, and recruiting rankings. Obviously Bama is almost 3 deep with high caliber prospects, but at the starting lineup, we had a significant advantage at C and LG, slight advantage at starting RT, a higher floor at LG but a much lower ceiling, and a significant disadvantage at LT. However, combine the weaker overall depth with much worse coaching and the results on the field speak for themselves. Nonetheless, the difference isn't AS wide as many posters here seem to think.
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