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Sho Nuff

Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« on: June 10, 2018, 05:28:43 pm »

What do we know about him?
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2018, 05:30:24 pm »

Doesn’t matter if we get this same strike zone.

Sorry for the glib answer I’m just mad still.

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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2018, 05:38:09 pm »

Probably Logan Chapman. 
Starts for USC:  Morris 15
Hill 16
L. Chapman  14
Mlodzinski 6
R. Chapman 6

Logan Chapman has a 5.64 ERA and a 3-3 record.   With 14 starts he only has 59 innings pitched.  Could see a lot of the bullpen
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2018, 05:43:49 pm »

we've seen both chapman's and the M guy throw in their bullpen
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2018, 05:59:34 pm »

Mlodzinsky is the listed starter
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2018, 06:00:59 pm »

Mlodzinsky is the listed starter

I think the announcer said M was starting tmrw
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2018, 06:06:55 pm »

They have Chapman and the M guy left. Who do we have?  Campbell, then Cronin?
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2018, 06:08:07 pm »

I don't see why Jake couldn't pitch tomorrow. It's win or go hom
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2018, 06:08:27 pm »

They have Chapman and the M guy left. Who do we have?  Campbell, then Cronin?

Reindl should be available and Loeske for an inning or two if needed.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2018, 06:08:35 pm »

They have Chapman and the M guy left. Who do we have?  Campbell, then Cronin?
reindl can come back, and loseke could maybe give you an inning.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2018, 06:10:04 pm »

Everyone on our staff not named Knight or Murphy will be available tomorrow, though I doubt Loseke has much gas in the tank.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2018, 06:10:13 pm »

I don't see why Jake couldn't pitch tomorrow. It's win or go hom

Id assume everyone is available for an out or more except for Murphy and Knight
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2018, 06:10:44 pm »

They have Chapman and the M guy left. Who do we have?  Campbell, then Cronin?

Got to think Riendl could pitch again tomorrow. I would think the plan is Campbell, Reindl, the Cronin. 

But we need to score earned runs.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2018, 06:13:43 pm »

Got to think Riendl could pitch again tomorrow. I would think the plan is Campbell, Reindl, the Cronin. 

But we need to score earned runs.
we have tagged their bullpen pretty good the last 2 days, I really think we have the advantage.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 06:16:19 pm »

They have Chapman and the M guy left. Who do we have?  Campbell, then Cronin?

I don't really understand your question.  They have guys left other than your two.  We have more than Campbell and Cronin available also.  If you were referring to only starters I get it, but Cronin has never started

We have reindl fresh, loseke will be on a day of rest, Cronin as fresh as you can get (maybe too fresh).  We also have our entire bullpen left if need be. 
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2018, 06:16:42 pm »

Everyone on our staff not named Knight or Murphy will be available tomorrow, though I doubt Loseke has much gas in the tank.

How many pitches did he throw yesterday?
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2018, 06:19:27 pm »

DVH: “not saying Blaine’s available. But I’d say anyone who thinks they can get an out is available if we need them.”
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2018, 06:32:13 pm »

I don’t want the reindel of today. The look on his face while warming up was not good.

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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2018, 06:34:27 pm »

I don’t want the reindel of today. The look on his face while warming up was not good.

He isn't going to be happy with the product he put forth.  He will want to show he is better then that.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2018, 06:34:54 pm »

How many pitches did he throw yesterday?
I think he was up around 50
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2018, 06:35:26 pm »

DVH: “not saying Blaine’s available. But I’d say anyone who thinks they can get an out is available if we need them.”
I would believe Knight would want in, I just can't foresee it happening.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2018, 06:37:39 pm »

I would believe Knight would want in, I just can't foresee it happening.

Agreed. It would have to be basically a one run game with the big 3 all spent.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2018, 06:54:35 pm »

Those saying Knight will not be available seem to forget Knight came in last year against Missouri State.  If we need an out or two late, then everyone but Murphy is available. I imagine the game plan is Campbell,  Reindl, Ramage, Loseke, and Cronin in some sort of combination tomorrow. Take a lead into the 7th and Cronin will go for the 3 inning save..
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2018, 07:00:55 pm »

It would be incompetent and indifferent to someone’s future to run Knight out there again, even for one out.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2018, 07:03:39 pm »

It would be incompetent and indifferent to someone’s future to run Knight out there again, even for one out.
I agree, but we did it last year when we thought he was gone before the draft. However,  I cannot see us doing it this year with the arms we have available.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2018, 07:04:32 pm »

It would be incompetent and indifferent to someone’s future to run Knight out there again, even for one out.

Sounds like something you would say

Throwing 5 - 10 pitches, as unlikely as that might be, won’t jeaporidize his future.

My concern is the impact on a possible CWS.  But if we don’t get there it’s a moot point.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2018, 07:05:59 pm »

Those saying Knight will not be available seem to forget Knight came in last year against Missouri State.  If we need an out or two late, then everyone but Murphy is available. I imagine the game plan is Campbell,  Reindl, Ramage, Loseke, and Cronin in some sort of combination tomorrow. Take a lead into the 7th and Cronin will go for the 3 inning save..
Cronin has struggled with the 3 innings save. I would prefer 2 innings max unless LT is up in a critical situation. But yeah you are right. Unless Campbell is just dealing it will be a little of everyone.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2018, 07:13:57 pm »

It would be incompetent and indifferent to someone’s future to run Knight out there again, even for one out.
It’s happened hundreds of times in college baseball in this situation. Wake up and get a clue.

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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2018, 07:14:21 pm »

Let's hope we get a great game out of Campbell.  It would really blow to have all three of our starters to have subpar performances in a super regional.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2018, 07:17:48 pm »

We need the Campbell of the Georgia game and the LSU SECT game to show up.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2018, 07:19:43 pm »

Mlodzinski, RHP, Freshman, 3-5, 4.84 era, 18 appearances/6 starts, 44.2 innings, 43 hits, 25 runs/24 earned, 20 BB, 42 K, .253 baa, 7 WP, 3 HBP
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2018, 07:27:56 pm »

It’s happened hundreds of times in college baseball in this situation. Wake up and get a clue.


By idiot coaches putting the kids livliehood at risk. And it will eventually bite coaches in the ass when it comes to procuring top talent. Knight should be unavailable.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2018, 07:29:34 pm »

Cronin has struggled with the 3 innings save. I would prefer 2 innings max unless LT is up in a critical situation. But yeah you are right. Unless Campbell is just dealing it will be a little of everyone.

I expect to see Cronin the first time we're in a jam.  If the bases are loaded with no outs in the third I'd expect to see him.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2018, 07:31:32 pm »

I expect to see Cronin the first time we're in a jam. If the bases are loaded with no outs in the third I'd expect to see him.

Are you high?

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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2018, 07:34:36 pm »

Sounds like something you would say

Throwing 5 - 10 pitches, as unlikely as that might be, won’t jeaporidize his future.

My concern is the impact on a possible CWS.  But if we don’t get there it’s a moot point.

He would throw ...20+ warming up. Coaches keep abusing pitchers and you are going to have the same crap but worse as bowl games....players sitting out after they are drafted and have hundreds of thousands if not millions on the line.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2018, 07:38:52 pm »

I would believe Knight would want in, I just can't foresee it happening.

I could see it happening.  He'd be on a 12-15 pitch max limit I'd assume.  I'd think it would come middle of the game in a place to you aren't wanting to bring in Loseke or maybe Cronin just yet. 
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2018, 07:41:04 pm »

Not really going to matter since we've beaten pitchers from Sanger to Mize to Rolison. We need not worry about their pitcher but how we hit the ball ourselves. We hit the ball like we can and as we should, the game won't be close, however, if we get up there with the same ol' approach of trying to work their pitcher tomorrow night we'll find ourselves down early and in a panic. I think if we see a pitch one of our guys likes, rip away even if it's the first pitch. It is paramount that we score first tomorrow and get a 3-5 run lead before the 5th inning. If we do this, we coast home, if they jump on us early well, we're going to find ourselves in the same position we were today.

ad: a couple of pitchers rarely used today came in and did an admirable job considering the strike zone was the size of a mouse's ear. I worry not because I think we're going to jump all over their pitching tomorrow. We shall see. If we win we deserve to go to the CWS, if we lose, we don't.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2018, 07:42:40 pm »

He would throw ...20+ warming up. Coaches keep abusing pitchers and you are going to have the same crap but worse as bowl games....players sitting out after they are drafted and have hundreds of thousands if not millions on the line.

You should go talk to Kentucky's coach, he treated Hjelle like a rubber arm. 

You better believe if Knight can help the team tomorrow he will. Coach will allow him to go throw a few as well if need be.

Keep in mind he would usually throw a bullpen 2-3 days after pitching. Bullpens usually consist of warming up and 40 pitches or more I believe.

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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2018, 08:16:30 pm »

It would be incompetent and indifferent to someone’s future to run Knight out there again, even for one out.
Agree. But colleges do it all the time.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2018, 08:29:58 pm »



By idiot coaches putting the kids livliehood at risk. And it will eventually bite coaches in the ass when it comes to procuring top talent. Knight should be unavailable.
Wake up and study the history of baseball. Pitch counts and inning limitations are not the way to preserve arms. The biggest problem is travel baseball at a young age making pitchers throw year round.  That results in the overuse of their arms, thus not letting them fully develop. Why do you think the 200 inning season in the big leagues is all but non existent anymore? Guys used to pitch 300 innings. It’s not that hard to figure out. Coddling arms at a mature age doesn’t keep elbows from being destroyed.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2018, 08:54:25 pm »

Wake up and study the history of baseball. Pitch counts and inning limitations are not the way to preserve arms. The biggest problem is travel baseball at a young age making pitchers throw year round.  That results in the overuse of their arms, thus not letting them fully develop. Why do you think the 200 inning season in the big leagues is all but non existent anymore? Guys used to pitch 300 innings. It’s not that hard to figure out. Coddling arms at a mature age doesn’t keep elbows from being destroyed.

Right Mack. Yet for years we watch managers except pitcher killer Dusty Baker go get their $150, $200 m investments off the mound after 100-110 pitches 32 x a year and not run them back out again without 4 days rest. Every pitching protector protocol for a guy his age says 95 pitches and he shouldn’t pitch again with less than 4 days rest.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2018, 09:02:15 pm »

Right Mack. Yet for years we watch managers except pitcher killer Dusty Baker go get their $150, $200 m investments off the mound after 100-110 pitches 32 x a year and not run them back out again without 4 days rest. Every pitching protector protocol for a guy his age says 95 pitches and he shouldn’t pitch again with less than 4 days rest.
Yeah, and since that protocol has came about how is the comparison of blown elbows to that of today and yesteryear? It depends on each individual pitcher. To put a blanket number on a mature guy more often than not does not allow them to reach their full potential.

I’ll say this if they have any reason that BK shouldn’t go...then he shouldn’t. But if the coaches like what they see then there is absolutely nothing wrong with him going out there to get a couple of outs.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2018, 09:14:57 pm »

Yeah, and since that protocol has came about how is the comparison of blown elbows to that of today and yesteryear? It depends on each individual pitcher. To put a blanket number on a mature guy more often than not does not allow them to reach their full potential.

I’ve got no problem with a Sabathia, Randy Johnson, Justin Verkander making millions “agreeing” to take the ball on short rest after a start in a playoff situation. A kid that has been drafted, is awaiting a signing bonus, more importantly needing his health to make money in one of the most difficult positions in one of the most difficult sports......he gave you a start and went deep in a 3 game series....to use him again stinks of lack of regard for his future.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2018, 09:31:25 pm »



By idiot coaches putting the kids livliehood at risk. And it will eventually bite coaches in the ass when it comes to procuring top talent. Knight should be unavailable.

This doesn't really feel debatable at this point. 
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2018, 09:33:06 pm »

I’ve got no problem with a Sabathia, Randy Johnson, Justin Verkander making millions “agreeing” to take the ball on short rest after a start in a playoff situation. A kid that has been drafted, is awaiting a signing bonus, more importantly needing his health to make money in one of the most difficult positions in one of the most difficult sports......he gave you a start and went deep in a 3 game series....to use him again stinks of lack of regard for his future.

So if we make a bowl next year, fro holt should skip it, if he is projected in the top 3 rounds?
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2018, 09:49:09 pm »

So if we make a bowl next year, fro holt should skip it, if he is projected in the top 3 rounds?

More and more guys are skipping bowl games and guess what. Pro teams aren’t holding it against them. But don’t equate a guy skipping a bowl game to a starting pitcher that started a game in a 3 game series, went 6 innings and threw 95 pitches being asked to comeback on less than 2 days rest in the same 3 game series.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2018, 10:01:52 pm »

Id assume everyone is available for an out or more except for Murphy and Knight
i dont know about that.  i could expect to see everyone.  i figured it'd be Campbell, then if he aint got itt, i could see loseke for an inning or two, possible reindl since he really didnt pitch much, then maybe ramage, or scroggins or, if we needed a closer, since we might use cronin early, we could use Knight for final 3outs or something.  i dont know.  but, i figure it's all hands on deck if Campbell doesnt have his stuff again.  I mean, he did only last 13 pitches the last time he was used.   hopefully, he can give us a lottt more than that tomorrow.
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Re: Who is South Carolina’s 3rd starter?
« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2018, 10:08:40 pm »

You should go talk to Kentucky's coach, he treated Hjelle like a rubber arm. 

You better believe if Knight can help the team tomorrow he will. Coach will allow him to go throw a few as well if need be.

Keep in mind he would usually throw a bullpen 2-3 days after pitching. Bullpens usually consist of warming up and 40 pitches or more I believe.
i agree.  Van Horn will pitch Knight tomorrow if he needs him andi think Knight would be willing.  I think back to when we used Charlie boyce against FSU and got the win, and i remember the FSU turd coach complaining about using him.   The ironic thing tho is that FSU coach in the regional they lost at fsu, they used their starter in the must win game against msu that they were walked off on when that msu guy hit the walk off HR.  they used their starter again and he pitched 132 pitches in that game!!   incredible.  i wish Van Horn would have tweeted him and said something about how 'it was good on the guys arm' etc..etc..   anyways.. yeah, i wouldnt doubt for a minute that if we need to use guys, Knight would be available tomorrow even if just for a closer if we had to use cronin earlier.
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