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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2018, 01:39:00 pm »

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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2018, 01:40:43 pm »

ASA Hutchinson. Vote Blue.
Yea ok...sure...because socialism works so well. ::) ::) Just ask Venezuela. BTW, I think playing at the dump should have ended a long time ago. We are the only P5 program to do this stupid crap, we must just be smarter than everybody else I guess. ::) ::)
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #52 on: May 17, 2018, 01:46:57 pm »

Who are they?

Who is it on the BOT? Who are the big donors that are so obsessed with this game?

It makes our home schedule ABYSMAL 3 out of the next 6 years.

Someone with major tug is making this happen. Makes me think that our new AD promised this before he was given a contract.


It doesn't make much sense, at all.

Not fiscally
Not logistically
Not in best interest of the football program
Not for overall growth of the University



It only exists to appease some fans. And that number cannot possibly be that large.

Not sure I agree with the bolded above.  No doubt there is loss revenue and logistically it's not a good move, but it's an investment in the state and the future of the UofA as the main show in the state.  The state does not have the population for the UofA to become segmented to only the Northwest corner.  Especially when the Northwest corner is populated so heavily with transplants coming to work from out of state.  The brand would suffer without reaching out to Little Rock, and more important than a little extra revenue in the seats on a Saturday is Branding. 
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2018, 01:51:07 pm »

Yea ok...sure...because socialism works so well. ::) ::) Just ask Venezuela. BTW, I think playing at the dump should have ended a long time ago. We are the only P5 program to do this stupid crap, we must just be smarter than everybody else I guess. ::) ::)


Not to get too political but John Oliver did a great piece on this Sunday.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2018, 01:52:58 pm »

I'll see everyone's complaints and raise them with a "who gives a damn" and a "none of us have any say in it anyway so might as well deal with it."



BUT ITS SO MUCH FUN TO BE A BUNCH OF SNOW FLAKES BECAUSE OF ONE GAME EVERY 24 MONTHS.




did I use that term correctly?
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2018, 02:10:30 pm »

Who are they?

Who is it on the BOT? Who are the big donors that are so obsessed with this game?

It makes our home schedule ABYSMAL 3 out of the next 6 years.

Someone with major tug is making this happen. Makes me think that our new AD promised this before he was given a contract.


It doesn't make much sense, at all.

Not fiscally
Not logistically
Not in best interest of the football program
Not for overall growth of the University


It only exists to appease some fans. And that number cannot possibly be that large.

I have gone back and forth on the GSD.  That being said, the above bold really cracks me up.  If Mizzou is the team on your schedule that determines whether it is a good, or an abysmal schedule, you are in big trouble.  The manufactured and forced "Battle Line Rivalry" is about the stupidest thing this football program has done other than the firing of Petrino (yeah, I said it - may as well throw another grenade into the discussion).  Seriously, Mizzou is about on par with Vandy and KY as far as conference games that are no more exciting than the rent a win non conference games (and that is true even though we have lost to them the past two years).  Heck, maybe we can finally beat Mizzou playing them in LR the way we used to beat LSU there.     
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2018, 03:01:18 pm »

This was great for a laugh...really it was.

BTW weren't you one of the Bielema is a God homers? He's the first one who coined the Little Rock is a road game narrative.
I don't believe I ever said Bielema is a God. I wanted him to live up to the hype. But that didn't work out, which makes his "LR is a road game" comment look even more stupid. So go ahead and hang your hat on that, if you really want to.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2018, 03:05:55 pm »


Not to get too political but John Oliver did a great price on this Sunday.
There was NOTHING great about that John Oliver bit. Socialism has NEVER worked, and it will never work. People like to own stuff, and they generally like the government to stay out of their lives.
And anyone who thinks health care is a "right", must have brain damage. You are not entitled to the product of other people's labor!
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2018, 03:11:02 pm »

Not sure I agree with the bolded above.  No doubt there is loss revenue and logistically it's not a good move, but it's an investment in the state and the future of the UofA as the main show in the state.  The state does not have the population for the UofA to become segmented to only the Northwest corner.  Especially when the Northwest corner is populated so heavily with transplants coming to work from out of state.  The brand would suffer without reaching out to Little Rock, and more important than a little extra revenue in the seats on a Saturday is Branding. 

So, no problem of selling out all games in WMS, going forward? And I live in NEA and attend all the games before you reply.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2018, 03:11:08 pm »

I don't believe I ever said Bielema is a God. I wanted him to live up to the hype. But that didn't work out, which makes his "LR is a road game" comment look even more stupid. So go ahead and hang your hat on that, if you really want to.
I'll take this all a step further in regards to your drunken here no longer here.  I would've been ok with demolishing RRS and moving every single game to Little Rock if it meant Bret Bielema and Jeff Long were no longer here to continue ruining the program to the depths of nothingness.

This has win/win written all over it compromise wise as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2018, 03:13:29 pm »

There was NOTHING great about that John Oliver bit. Socialism has NEVER worked, and it will never work. People like to own stuff, and they generally like the government to stay out of their lives.
And anyone who thinks health care is a "right", must have brain damage. You are not entitled to the product of other people's labor!


Lol. Ok man.



And to point out, that's not what the piece was on.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2018, 03:53:10 pm »

The arrogance and self-entitlement of you NWA people is appalling. You would not have the university you have without central Arkansas and War Memorial Stadium. I little effing gratitude would be appreciated!  >:(
One game every other year at WMS is not going to adversely affect the program. In fact, it will help the coaching staff maintain ties to central and southern Arkansas, and it continues to make the Hogs a unique element in college football as the only team that plays HOME games in two different stadiums. Anyone that believes playing in Little Rock is actually a road game is foolish and butthurt over the new deal.
Get over it.
One day you'll get your wish, and all home games will be played on campus. But you had better be careful what you wish for! It may fracture the fanbase, and cut off any ca$h coming from central and southern Ark.

At this point I would taken a fractured fan base just so that we wouldn't have to play in that stadium anymore.  Please, take your money and give it to Arkansas State, give it to a community college.. better yet, give it to the Little Rock police to help clean up Little Rock which has one of the high murder rates in US.  Just get the hell away from the Razorbacks.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2018, 03:58:19 pm »

And this is why I let them have my tickets this year.  You knew this was coming when they fired Jeff Long.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2018, 03:58:39 pm »

At this point I would taken a fractured fan base just so that we wouldn't have to play in that stadium anymore.  Please, take your money and give it to Arkansas State, give it to a community college.. better yet, give it to the Little Rock police to help clean up Little Rock which has one of the high murder rates in US.  Just get the hell away from the Razorbacks.

Not sure that a guy that already wants to fire the AD shouldn't be the one to get the hell away from the Razorbacks. 
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2018, 04:04:49 pm »

Not sure that a guy that already wants to fire the AD shouldn't be the one to get the hell away from the Razorbacks.

It's what is best for the school, I'm not the one making these decisions.  But anybody who thinks it's a good decision to take more SEC games away (especially after a 100 million dollar renovation) and put them in WMS is a complete idiot.  There is no logical explanation for doing that.. NONE.  I could see playing more games in Dallas or a location that helps the brand, but WMS does nothing but hurt our brand.     
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« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2018, 04:10:24 pm »

It's what is best for the school, I'm not the one making these decisions.  But anybody who thinks it's a good decision to take more SEC games away (especially after a 100 million dollar renovation) and put them in WMS is a complete idiot.  There is no logical explanation for doing that.. NONE.  I could see playing more games in Dallas or a location that helps the brand, but WMS does nothing but hurt our brand.     

You're so wrapped up in your own blindness and ignorance you don't even know what's going on.

Taking more SEC games away? False.

You realize we are still LESSENING the number of games in WMS, right?

You do get that...right?

Here, I'll help: Right now, we play one game in WMS no matter what. Moving forward, we will play one game in WMS every 2 years.

Remind me how that's "more."
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2018, 04:13:41 pm »

The arrogance and self-entitlement of you NWA people is appalling. You would not have the university you have without central Arkansas and War Memorial Stadium. I little effing gratitude would be appreciated!  >:(
One game every other year at WMS is not going to adversely affect the program. In fact, it will help the coaching staff maintain ties to central and southern Arkansas, and it continues to make the Hogs a unique element in college football as the only team that plays HOME games in two different stadiums. Anyone that believes playing in Little Rock is actually a road game is foolish and butthurt over the new deal.
Get over it.
One day you'll get your wish, and all home games will be played on campus. But you had better be careful what you wish for! It may fracture the fanbase, and cut off any ca$h coming from central and southern Ark.

One of the worst posts I have ever seen on this site
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2018, 04:18:58 pm »

So, no problem of selling out all games in WMS, going forward? And I live in NEA and attend all the games before you reply.

Not sure, I know playing crappy non-con games have struggled to sell out there.  My thought is if you are going to play a game in little rock and it be an SEC game, it might as well be the one we play the Friday after thanksgiving since the college kids are not on campus and people in Northwest Arkansas may already have days off from work where they could drive down if they want to. 
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« Reply #68 on: May 17, 2018, 04:25:03 pm »

Not sure, I know playing crappy non-con games have struggled to sell out there.  My thought is if you are going to play a game in little rock and it be an SEC game, it might as well be the one we play the Friday after thanksgiving since the college kids are not on campus and people in Northwest Arkansas may already have days off from work where they could drive down if they want to. 

Oh, if you take a game, then that's the best option, but what if the SEC changes the schedule, what if we go to a 9 game schedule, what if they move teams or expand? I realize most of that won't happen, especially not in the next 6 years, but anything's possible. I just don't like the idea of only 2 on campus SEC games.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2018, 05:01:21 pm »

Georgia didnt sell out in LR. Let that sink in.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #70 on: May 17, 2018, 05:14:08 pm »

Georgia didnt sell out in LR. Let that sink in.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #71 on: May 17, 2018, 05:46:53 pm »

At this point I would taken a fractured fan base just so that we wouldn't have to play in that stadium anymore.  Please, take your money and give it to Arkansas State, give it to a community college.. better yet, give it to the Little Rock police to help clean up Little Rock which has one of the high murder rates in US.  Just get the hell away from the Razorbacks.
what a loser. People like this are why we deserve to lose. I used to love the hog fan base but I’m afraid the good ones are dying out and the douchebags are coming on strong
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« Reply #72 on: May 17, 2018, 06:11:41 pm »

The arrogance and self-entitlement of you NWA people is appalling. You would not have the university you have without central Arkansas and War Memorial Stadium. I little effing gratitude would be appreciated!  >:(
One game every other year at WMS is not going to adversely affect the program. In fact, it will help the coaching staff maintain ties to central and southern Arkansas, and it continues to make the Hogs a unique element in college football as the only team that plays HOME games in two different stadiums. Anyone that believes playing in Little Rock is actually a road game is foolish and butthurt over the new deal.
Get over it.
One day you'll get your wish, and all home games will be played on campus. But you had better be careful what you wish for! It may fracture the fanbase, and cut off any ca$h coming from central and southern Ark.

And the selfishness of the Central/Southern/Eastern Hog "Fans" is as equally appalling.  Instead of wanting to put the Hogs in the best position to succeed, people are demanding "I want what makes MY life more convenient!!!"

If a Hogs "fan" would stop supporting the Hogs over pulling a game from War Memorial (which IS a road game for the team, by the way)... then they aren't that loyal of a fan. 

And I'm honestly tired of hearing about it from them.

Go root for stAte, UCA, or UAPB.  Seriously.  We don't want half-assed "fans" who only give support on their terms.

In today's reality, one conference loss can have you on the outside looking in of the Playoffs (or the SEC Championship)

To schedule any conference home games anywhere but the home stadium, is insane.

Spending $160 Million to renovate DWRRS, that we will only be playing TWO (2) conference games in, in 2019 & 2021?!?!?! That is obscenely insane.

War Memorial is an absolute dump; some of the cracks it's showing are scary.  And, regarding that "great tailgating"... I was at the Spring Game, unless you have a truck I wouldn't drive on the golf course's cart path unless you want to replace the oil pan on your car.

Signed,
A Hogs fan who grew up in LR & at WMS during the SWC days, and still lives in Central Arkansas.
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« Reply #73 on: May 17, 2018, 06:18:23 pm »

HIRE JEFF LONG





FIRE HUNTER. LETS FLY BANNERS
FIRE JEFF LONG




HIRE JEFF LONG ...... SO WE CAN FIRE JEFF LONG AGAIN!!!!        ;)


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« Reply #74 on: May 17, 2018, 07:41:12 pm »

Georgia didnt sell out in LR. Let that sink in.

The game was a sellout according to ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400548359

The thing I still find hard to believe is that Arkansas lost 17 straight conference games. Cut my legs off and call me shorty. Georgia was number 15.


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« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2018, 09:52:07 pm »


Or could it be that they just simply disagree. Not everything is a conspiracy

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« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2018, 09:55:12 pm »

It's what is best for the school, I'm not the one making these decisions.  But anybody who thinks it's a good decision to take more SEC games away (especially after a 100 million dollar renovation) and put them in WMS is a complete idiot.  There is no logical explanation for doing that.. NONE.  I could see playing more games in Dallas or a location that helps the brand, but WMS does nothing but hurt our brand.     

So you want to move more home games FURTHER away to a DIFFERENT state?



Just trying to clarify.
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« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2018, 10:13:43 pm »

So you want to move more home games FURTHER away to a DIFFERENT state?



Just trying to clarify.

I'm saying that I understand playing a home game away from home if it helps the brand.. playing in Dallas in a billion dollar stadium brings a lot of positive attention to the university and helps recruiting.  The last couple years we haven't taken advantage of that because we keep losing games there but it's a great opportunity.  Playing somewhere like WMS where the announcers are basically laughing at the situation, where you can't get through a game without the scoreboard failing, where they can barley televise the game due to the lack of media support is a complete embarrassment to the University.  People in Little Rock need to take off their rose colored glasses and realize that the world is laughing at them and the University when we play there.     
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« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2018, 10:44:21 pm »

The world is divided into two camps: those who have, and those who do not. Money, power, influence. If you regret that you do not have those things, well, you should have planned better.

Or make sure you come from wealthy sperm, like the guy usually mentioned in this discussion.
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« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2018, 11:55:12 pm »

The arrogance and self-entitlement of you NWA people is appalling. You would not have the university you have without central Arkansas and War Memorial Stadium. I little effing gratitude would be appreciated!  >:(
One game every other year at WMS is not going to adversely affect the program. In fact, it will help the coaching staff maintain ties to central and southern Arkansas, and it continues to make the Hogs a unique element in college football as the only team that plays HOME games in two different stadiums. Anyone that believes playing in Little Rock is actually a road game is foolish and butthurt over the new deal.
Get over it.
One day you'll get your wish, and all home games will be played on campus. But you had better be careful what you wish for! It may fracture the fanbase, and cut off any ca$h coming from central and southern Ark.

Fracture the fan base . . . that little screen called the TV says, “Hello!”  Just about every game on the schedule seems to be televised on some network these days.  Maybe Central Arkansas hasn’t consulted the oracle about this new technology?  Give the students their home games . . . in Fayetteville.
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« Reply #81 on: May 18, 2018, 12:29:03 am »

This is going to turn into NWA vs Central Arkansas and hurt the fanbase.

Might as well rename the school University of Northwest Arkansas
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« Reply #82 on: May 18, 2018, 05:13:03 am »

This was great for a laugh...really it was.

BTW weren't you one of the Bielema is a God homers? He's the first one who coined the Little Rock is a road game narrative.
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« Reply #83 on: May 18, 2018, 05:14:27 am »

This is going to turn into NWA vs Central Arkansas and hurt the fanbase.

Might as well rename the school University of Northwest Arkansas
I think the Univeristy of Arkansas, Fayetteville has a nicer ring to it.
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« Reply #84 on: May 18, 2018, 05:51:34 am »

I think the Univeristy of Arkansas, Fayetteville has a nicer ring to it.

Or just drop the "University of..." nonsense and go the route of Memphis and Tulsa - just call it "Fayetteville".
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« Reply #85 on: May 18, 2018, 06:29:55 am »

Find out who puts up the $$ for the stadium upgrades and you'll have the answer.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/may/18/hogs-lr-games-hinge-on-stadium-redo-201/
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« Reply #86 on: May 18, 2018, 06:45:08 am »

The game was a sellout according to ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400548359

The thing I still find hard to believe is that Arkansas lost 17 straight conference games. Cut my legs off and call me shorty. Georgia was number 15.

Game should sell out easily.  NWA Razorback fans support the Hogs no matter where they play.  That, combined with the additional fans from Central, South, and Eastern Arkansas=sellout!
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« Reply #87 on: May 18, 2018, 06:57:42 am »

I've seen several comments about this being a "good compromise".  So, I have to ask, a compromise for what?  The hijacking of our flagship university's sports team?  This is a compromise for a discussion that should never have been in the first place.
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« Reply #88 on: May 18, 2018, 07:14:54 am »

I've seen several comments about this being a "good compromise".  So, I have to ask, a compromise for what?  The hijacking of our flagship university's sports team?  This is a compromise for a discussion that should never have been in the first place.

Aren't you out of your element? First, this isn't DST, and second, you've made too much sense.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #89 on: May 18, 2018, 07:18:19 am »

Aren't you out of your element? First, this isn't DST, and second, you've made too much sense.

I gnawed through the straps a bit early this morning.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #90 on: May 18, 2018, 07:24:03 am »

Or just drop the "University of..." nonsense and go the route of Memphis and Tulsa - just call it "Fayetteville".

Hell just go with “F U”!
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #91 on: May 18, 2018, 07:26:26 am »

Fracture the fan base . . . that little screen called the TV says, “Hello!”  Just about every game on the schedule seems to be televised on some network these days.  Maybe Central Arkansas hasn’t consulted the oracle about this new technology?  Give the students their home games . . . in Fayetteville.


How many students are on campus the day after Thanksgiving?
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #92 on: May 18, 2018, 07:40:13 am »

Let these sink in.

Pic was from the 1st half. After halftime there were about 25k left in the stadium.

Let that sink in.

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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #93 on: May 18, 2018, 07:45:45 am »

Pic was from the 1st half. After halftime there were about 25k left in the stadium.

Let that sink in.

 ;D


Why did that happen?
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #94 on: May 18, 2018, 07:54:50 am »

I'm saying that I understand playing a home game away from home if it helps the brand.. playing in Dallas in a billion dollar stadium brings a lot of positive attention to the university and helps recruiting.  The last couple years we haven't taken advantage of that because we keep losing games there but it's a great opportunity.  Playing somewhere like WMS where the announcers are basically laughing at the situation, where you can't get through a game without the scoreboard failing, where they can barley televise the game due to the lack of media support is a complete embarrassment to the University.  People in Little Rock need to take off their rose colored glasses and realize that the world is laughing at them and the University when we play there.   
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #95 on: May 18, 2018, 08:01:44 am »

This is going to turn into NWA vs Central Arkansas and hurt the fanbase.

Might as well rename the school University of Northwest Arkansas
Is UT the University of eastern Tn?  Is OM the University of northern M?...could go on and on. The geographical argument is stupid..i can't believe these fools did not cut the cord. Only major program in the country this flaming stupid.
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« Reply #96 on: May 18, 2018, 08:08:39 am »

Is UT the University of eastern Tn?  Is OM the University of northern M?...could go on and on. The geographical argument is stupid..i can't believe these fools did not cut the cord. Only major program in the country this flaming stupid.

Speaking of flaming.........
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2018, 08:15:34 am »

Damn...  And here I was thinking that the GSD had a chance of going away forever. 

It's becoming a tradition that I'm not sure we really want.
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Re: Extremely influential WMS folks
« Reply #98 on: May 18, 2018, 08:20:23 am »

Lol.


Better be careful what you wish for. His biggest competition is this Tuesday. Let's hope he makes it to November or we really may be screwed.
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« Reply #99 on: May 18, 2018, 08:27:38 am »

Would be awesome if I still lived in warren..lol
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