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Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« on: April 20, 2018, 04:12:10 am »

It's almost funny to think about what our OL may look like in a few years w/ a few recruiting wins. I'll not guess on the weights as those will change up or down.

OT - Wagner 6'9, Winkel 6'6, Stone 6'8, Roberson 6'11, Wilkins 6'6
OG - Clenin 6'6, Adcock 6'5, Robinson 6'4, Gatlin 6'7
C - Limmer 6'5, Nichols 6'4


We sure need a lot of help on the OL. I'm going to find it humorous that Morris builds a bigger stronger OL than Bielema.

eta: forgot the new guys added in Robinson, Winkel and Gatlin.  Also wouldn't surprise me if Isiah Nichols became an OC if we land the DE recruits we're chasing after.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 02:14:49 am by BoynamedWooPigSooie »
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2018, 07:11:51 am »

You could probably take Wilkins off that list, but could put Darius Thomas in his place. He is 6'6 as well
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2018, 08:05:55 am »

Size doesn't matter in this type of offense.  They need to be nimble and not road graders.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 08:26:49 am »

Size doesn't matter in this type of offense.  They need to be nimble and not road graders.

Morris is recruiting huge dudes... so, he's doing it wrong?
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2018, 08:47:55 am »

Morris is recruiting huge dudes... so, he's doing it wrong?

Iím sure heís got a plan but most of us are confused as to why they are so big. Everyone thought when he came in that our Oline would trim down quite a bit and be more agile
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2018, 08:55:40 am »

Stone was recruited as a guard, and Limmer is to athletic to be put at Center. Limmer will be a OT. It appears Morris wants big bodies in the middle, and more athletic guys on the ends.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 08:57:11 am »

Iím sure heís got a plan but most of us are confused as to why they are so big. Everyone thought when he came in that our Oline would trim down quite a bit and be more agile

It's a power-spread O.  The guards need to be quick enough to pull and get out in front to block. 

The offense isn't all that complicated.  Use the perimeter and power run game to setup shots down the field.  Take your shots and hop you hit on enough of them.  Use motion and tempo to try to confuse the D.  If they are 6'1" or 6'6" the guards just need to be able to pull.  Nothing special about the tackles other than they need to really good like any other system. 
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 09:25:20 am »

Morris is recruiting huge dudes... so, he's doing it wrong?
Not saying he's doing anything wrong.  I'm just saying that the size doesn't matter.  If he's getting these 6'8 dudes on the OL, then they better be nimble with quick feet.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 09:32:48 am »

It's almost funny to think about what our OL may look like in a few years w/ a few recruiting wins. I'll not guess on the weights as those will change up or down.

OT - Wagner 6'9, Stone 6'8, Roberson 6'11, Wilkins 6'6
OG - Clenin 6'6, Adcock 6'5
C - Limmer 6'5


We sure need a lot of help on the OL. I'm going to find it humorous that Morris builds a bigger stronger OL than Bielema.

....but can they block?
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2018, 09:36:14 am »

You could probably take Wilkins off that list, but could put Darius Thomas in his place. He is 6'6 as well

Doubt we get him either
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2018, 09:48:17 am »

Doubt we get him either
Far better chance then Wilkins. What makes you think he wont be a hog?
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2018, 09:50:55 am »

How will JS Jones throw it over a kid in front of him who is 6'11?!
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2018, 09:57:47 am »

How will JS Jones throw it over a kid in front of him who is 6'11?!
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2018, 11:01:07 am »

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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2018, 11:05:24 am »

NO NO NO!  Please don't tell me we will have to endure more seasons of the "biggest line in football" telecasts.
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2018, 05:24:23 pm »

How will JS Jones throw it over a kid in front of him who is 6'11?!

The same way Drew Brees does
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2018, 06:19:07 pm »

....but can they block?
what I remember from having an Oline as big as an NFL line is that they still couldn't push it in on 3rd and 1 or 4th and goal.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2018, 06:47:29 pm »

what I remember from having an Oline as big as an NFL line is that they still couldn't push it in on 3rd and 1 or 4th and goal.

That's called Kurting
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2018, 09:19:11 pm »

He had small offensive linemen at SMU because thatís what he could get there.
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2018, 09:28:56 pm »

Far better chance then Wilkins. What makes you think he wont be a hog?

General self loathing.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2018, 11:09:20 pm »

Iím sure heís got a plan but most of us are confused as to why they are so big. Everyone thought when he came in that our Oline would trim down quite a bit and be more agile
most of you who are confused need to only look at our recruits and see that it was all hogville nonsense to begin with. Kinda like Hogville saying our Oline was too big to run the screen game and then we destroyed teams with our screen game for two years.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2018, 11:10:46 pm »

Size doesn't matter in this type of offense.  They need to be nimble and not road graders.
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2018, 12:04:06 am »

Size doesn't matter in this type of offense.  They need to be nimble and not road graders.
Hopefully the coaches log on here every once in a while for recruiting advice.  Otherwise we are screwed.
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2018, 12:15:35 am »

Sorry Mizzouman I think Morris is right about getting some size up there.  It reminds me of the most famous words ever spoken on the Missouri campus  "Can I get some muscle over here"
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2018, 08:55:37 am »

It's almost funny to think about what our OL may look like in a few years w/ a few recruiting wins. I'll not guess on the weights as those will change up or down.

OT - Wagner 6'9, Winkel 6'6, Stone 6'8, Roberson 6'11, Wilkins 6'6
OG - Clenin 6'6, Adcock 6'5, Robinson 6'4, Gatlin 6'7
C - Limmer 6'5, Nichols 6'4


We sure need a lot of help on the OL. I'm going to find it humorous that Morris builds a bigger stronger OL than Bielema.

eta: forgot the new guys added in Robinson, Winkel and Gatlin.  Also wouldn't surprise me if Isiah Nichols became an OC if we land the DE recruits we're chasing after.

I'm not at all about having the tallest or heaviest O-Line in college football. Give me a couple of OT's that are 6-4 to 6-6 with long arms and nimble enough to stay up with and maintain leverage on outside speed rushers and 3 inside guys that are 6-3 to 6-5 that are also nimble and can keep their heads on a swivel to recognize stunts and twists that are being run and that's all good. Now certainly they need to be quick enough and physically developed so that they can run block and pull and block with power as well, but the taller an O-Lineman is, the harder it becomes to stay low enough to gain leverage in run blocking.

When you do get a taller guy like that who experiences difficulty in being low enough to maintain leverage, he then has to become big enough (weight wise) to just overpower his opponents and with that you risk losing quickness to counter quicker, shorter D-linemen and LB's. I'll take the shorter guys (as if 6-3 to 6-6 is short) who are quicker, with quicker feet and developed upper and lower body strength every time over a 6-7 to 7-0 guy.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2018, 09:26:52 am »

Arkansas has offered 35 guys on the oline so far for 2019, only 3 are 6'8 or taller. That doesn't look to me like he is only going for the tallest guys he can find. 
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2018, 09:29:48 am »

I would no speculate just yet. Wait and see if he gets the results he wants.
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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2018, 09:52:32 am »

Arkansas has offered 35 guys on the oline so far for 2019, only 3 are 6'8 or taller. That doesn't look to me like he is only going for the tallest guys he can find.

I doubt thereís many Oline recruits 6í8Ē or taller to begin with
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« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2018, 12:04:57 pm »

I wouldn't mind if Mike Anderson got a couple guys over 6'8" too.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2018, 01:55:23 pm »

Not saying he's doing anything wrong.  I'm just saying that the size doesn't matter.  If he's getting these 6'8 dudes on the OL, then they better be nimble with quick feet.

I know you're a Mizzou fan and all, but would you mind sending CCM an email and let him in on this?  Seems like solid advice; you might even get hired as one of his assistants.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2018, 03:00:29 pm »

Come on y'all, if we had a couple of 6' 10"-7' guys on the o-line imagine how many field goals we could block.

I'm not coach so I don't get a say but I'm kind of with Muskogee on this one.
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« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2018, 03:02:30 pm »

A lot of people don't know this because it was never mentioned in games, but a few years ago we had the biggest O-line in football (including the NFL). Got us a sweet Texas Bowl victory out of it.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2018, 04:30:45 pm »

I wouldn't mind if Mike Anderson got a couple guys over 6'8" too.
That's a good one. Like it.
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« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2018, 10:11:10 am »

Morris is recruiting huge dudes... so, he's doing it wrong?
  Recruiting big guys that can move.....all he is doing.  Simple.
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« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2018, 10:12:27 am »

That's a good one. Like it.

Might need to get off his rear and go find some real recruits.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2018, 11:27:13 am »

Arkansas has offered 35 guys on the oline so far for 2019, only 3 are 6'8 or taller. That doesn't look to me like he is only going for the tallest guys he can find.
LMAO!!! WTH? Nevermind that THOSE ARE THE 3 WE ARE GETTING?!?!
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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2018, 11:33:20 am »

And Iím not criticizing coach cuz obviously he knows what heís doing. Just surprised those guys we might get are so big
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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2018, 12:02:39 pm »

And Iím not criticizing coach cuz obviously he knows what heís doing. Just surprised those guys we might get are so big
The big guys are doing great. Right now Kolton Miller 6'9" UCLA OT is the highest rated OT in most mock drafts.
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« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2018, 01:12:26 pm »

I dont care how big we are in a few years.  We will never be bigger than the biggest line in the history of football that we had a few years ago and the biggest coach in the history of football.

We might not have won as many football games as we hoped but I'd put that line and Cbb on any tug of war coach/offensive line contest as long as teams were comprised by number of people and not weight. 
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« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2018, 10:17:39 am »

A lot of people don't know this because it was never mentioned in games, but a few years ago we had the biggest O-line in football (including the NFL). Got us a sweet Texas Bowl victory out of it.


Looking back... it might not have been the o-line's fault. 
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« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2018, 10:27:54 am »

A lot of people don't know this because it was never mentioned in games, but a few years ago we had the biggest O-line in football (including the NFL). Got us a sweet Texas Bowl victory out of it.
This part especiallly made me laugh. Pure excellence.
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« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2018, 04:32:50 pm »

Size doesn't matter in this type of offense.  They need to be nimble and not road graders.

Yes, we should totally listen to a Missouri fan about the Arkansas program.
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« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2018, 07:51:49 pm »

Well, honestly, we might try listening to a Missouri fan, listening to we Arkansas fans hasn't brought us that many wins.  Don't knock Mizzouman out until he's had a chance.
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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2018, 08:07:09 pm »

Well, honestly, we might try listening to a Missouri fan, listening to we Arkansas fans hasn't brought us that many wins.  Don't knock Mizzouman out until he's had a chance.
instead of our coach....


Bruh.
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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2018, 08:15:43 pm »

Yes, we should totally listen to a Missouri fan about the Arkansas program.

I remember a game in Missouri where the announcer kept saying "Ark has the biggest line in football!"

And the quick Mizzoo defensive line ran around those slow road graders and CRIPPLED Brandon Allen.
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2018, 10:53:43 pm »

On the sites ive seen roberson  is always listed at 7'0 ,not 6'11.  Which really isnt a big difference. Abouy the size. Ive seen these guys, and they look pretty nimble.  The 6'9 commit and Roberson, who i think will also be a Hog.  They arent stiff.  These guys look quick on their feet.  Thats what we want. I will agree with Mizzman. It doesnt matter the size of the guys in this particular offense. They could be 6' and do well as long as they had quick feet and good 1st step, good leverage techniques.  I think its just coincidentally that these dudes are behemoths!  Most definitely we'll hear ,which i too hated ,about having biggest oline in football.   Id rather have the strongest Oline in football.   

If anyone remembers, what made that oline we had back in 98 so good was because everyone on the oline could bench 500lbs.  They were all very strong.  Burls through hard work turned himself into an NFL player. Other than burls there were no stars on that team, guys werent super huge either. Probabaly avg 6'2 -6'3 and maybe 300lbs.  Nothing eye popping,but they were strong!   

We need guys like Ragnow was, big athletic dudes with flexibility,quickness. I look back at travis swanson who would pull from the center around the edge. Thats the type guys we need. Guys who can pick up the DE on his first step and be able to move with him,not letting him by.  These big long dudes definitely will have the arm reach to keep guys back , and hopefully the quick feet to also put a body in front of them as well.  Like i said, ive seen the 6'9 commit  and 7' Roberson and they look good. We'll just habe to wait and see how do (if Roberson commits) on field.
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Re: Arkansas OL could be ridiculously huge in a couple seasons.
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2018, 11:49:33 am »

Big Landmark Tackles and Fast Destroyer Guards.
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« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2018, 06:12:40 am »

I dont care how big we are in a few years.  We will never be bigger than the biggest line in the history of football that we had a few years ago and the biggest coach in the history of football.
Mark Mangino says hi.
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