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Author Topic: Odds, Money Line, BPI What the $$$ says about Hogs v Butler  (Read 7489 times)

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checkraiser88

Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2018, 07:13:32 pm »

This is not a good sign at all, this thing has been fairly accurate
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 07:13:51 pm »

Vegas has it as a pick em I believe.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 07:14:37 pm »

Well hell. Might as well not even play. Save the jet fuel.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 07:14:48 pm »

Vegas has it as a pick em I believe.

Sounds about right. I figured we might get to -2 at best. We should not underestimate them one bit.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2018, 07:15:46 pm »

We are a popular public pick at the moment, that is never good.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2018, 07:27:17 pm »

This is not a good sign at all, this thing has been fairly accurate

They also had Texas A&M and Florida and Auburn...etc. favored against us.  Saw how those matchups worked out ;)
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 07:31:23 pm »

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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2018, 07:48:12 pm »

Being from Indiana I can tell you Butler will be no joke. I teach with some Bulldog alum, so this will be big for bragging rights. When we take care of them all the Boilermaker fans will be hard to deal with. Come on Hogs give a chance to talk a lot of trash for the next year!!
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2018, 07:53:06 pm »

Vegas has it as a pick em I believe.
They did.  And money is now going to Butler. Butler -1
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2018, 07:55:00 pm »

Butler will give us all we want. And more.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2018, 07:56:08 pm »

Butler will give us all we want. And more.

So I'm guessing you are picking Butler? 
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Poker_hog

Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 07:56:47 pm »

Butler has opened as a 1 point favorite.
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checkraiser88

Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2018, 07:57:48 pm »

Butler is 9-1 in its last 10 first round games
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2018, 07:58:48 pm »

Butler has opened as a 1 point favorite.

I honestly think it will be Arkansas -1.5 to -2 by the end of the week.
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checkraiser88

Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2018, 07:59:41 pm »

The guys on ESPN were saying Butler is an experienced team, no mention of our experience
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2018, 08:01:16 pm »

The guys on ESPN were saying Butler is an experienced team, no mention of our experience

Take what ESPN says with a grain of salt.  They have and always will be Hog haters. 

This is not your Brad Steven's Butler team.  Yes, they are tough.  But lets not act like they are the Butler teams of years past.  This is more than a winnable game for Arkansas if they come out and play like we know they can. 
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2018, 08:03:51 pm »

Butler is 9-1 in its last 10 first round games

So, how many players on the current Butler roster participated  in any of that 9-1 NCAAT first round record?
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2018, 08:04:38 pm »

Take what ESPN says with a grain of salt.  They have and always will be Hog haters. 

This is not your Brad Steven's Butler team.  Yes, they are tough.  But lets not act like they are the Butler teams of years past.  This is more than a winnable game for Arkansas if they come out and play like we know they can. 

The guys on TBS took Arkansas, even said we would beat Purdue. So it cancels out.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2018, 08:14:18 pm »

The guys on ESPN were saying Butler is an experienced team, no mention of our experience

Espn totally hates us.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2018, 08:17:46 pm »

Butler has been in some barn burners. Could be a fun game.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2018, 08:18:32 pm »

Iím not sure what goes into that but they had bama as a 60 percent pick vs us and 80 percent chance to beat LSU.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2018, 08:24:59 pm »

They also had Texas A&M and Florida and Auburn...etc. favored against us.  Saw how those matchups worked out ;)

Worked out pretty well for them the first time we played.
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arkansas1994

ESPN early line
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2018, 08:33:29 pm »

Butler -1,   whatever
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2018, 08:33:33 pm »

Fivethirtyeight.com has Butler as having a 60% chance of reaching round 2. 

Vegas, Power Rankings, and statistical models not loving us
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Re: ESPN early line
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2018, 08:33:52 pm »

only 7 seed not favored
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2018, 08:35:08 pm »

Quick question, what is butlers record in tourney under their new coach?
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2018, 08:36:03 pm »

Worked out pretty well for them the first time we played.

But not so the second time we played them...Go figure  ;) :P

And I can argue the 2nd time is more important since it's the most recent one.

Hit the showers and come back with a stronger take tomorrow  ;)
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Re: ESPN early line
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2018, 08:36:44 pm »

So basically a pick em?


Who cares?
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2018, 08:37:38 pm »

Well hell. Might as well not even play. Save the jet fuel.

Exactly.geez.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2018, 08:38:11 pm »

Seth Greenburg picked us to beat Butler and Purdue.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2018, 08:41:07 pm »

Seth Greenburg picked us to beat Butler and Purdue.
The guys on the selection show had us making the Sweet 16. But yet we have fans....
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2018, 08:48:56 pm »

Iím embarrassed by the number of Hogville fans that think everyone (refs, committee, analysts, Espn predictions) is out to get AR and we are always getting disrespected. Itís such a weak and unoriginal argument. I think some would rather believe others are out to get AR rather than believe the truth...and that truth is that most national perspectives donít give a crap about AR.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2018, 08:51:38 pm »

The guys on the selection show had us making the Sweet 16. But yet we have fans....
Because our fans know how inconsistent we are.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2018, 08:52:53 pm »

Because our fans know how inconsistent we are.

I can easily make the same argument for just about every team this year.  That's why this field is so open.  Anyone can win with a good night this year.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2018, 08:57:37 pm »

As easy as the drive would have been to Dallas for Razorback fans, it's an easier drive to Detroit for Butler fans. They will essentially have a home court advantage.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2018, 08:59:41 pm »

As easy as the drive would have been to Dallas for Razorback fans, it's an easier drive to Detroit for Butler fans. They will essentially have a home court advantage.

Yeah but if Butler fans are anything like NWA Hog fans they will be far to scared to show up in Detroit.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2018, 08:59:59 pm »

As easy as the drive would have been to Dallas for Razorback fans, it's an easier drive to Detroit for Butler fans. They will essentially have a home court advantage.

Didn't Seton Hall last year have a pretty good drive to our 1st round game last year?  K.  Think that's not a big deal for these Hogs.  Same thing for North Carolina.  Didn't seem to affect them. 
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2018, 09:02:36 pm »

I like our chances. Perfect opportunity for Mike to use one of Nolan's old tactics and play the disrespect card. Us against the world.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2018, 09:04:27 pm »

Butler is very solid. This will be a tough one.  I watched them beat Villanova and they shoot the ball well. It will depend on how well Macon and Barford play. It will be fun because our VP of sales played at Butler a long time ago.

Go Hogs
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2018, 09:05:56 pm »

About 300 mile drive for Butler fans / about the same distance for Purdue fans
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2018, 09:07:47 pm »

Butler is very solid. This will be a tough one.  I watched them beat Villanova and they shoot the ball well. It will depend on how well Macon and Barford play . It will be fun because our VP of sales played at Butler a long time ago.

Go Hogs

So same as ever?
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2018, 09:14:32 pm »

What are the Butler guards like?
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2018, 09:17:11 pm »

We go as our 3 guards shoot so, yeah....Butler.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2018, 09:22:44 pm »

What are the Butler guards like?

Smaller and average to good
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2018, 09:25:53 pm »

Yeah but if Butler fans are anything like NWA Hog fans they will be far to scared to show up in Detroit.

Just shut up...geez.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2018, 09:26:11 pm »

Yeah but if Butler fans are anything like NWA Hog fans they will be far to scared to show up in Detroit.

Butler doesnít have a big fan base. Even being that close they will only have 2-3k fans there. Purdue on the other hand will have a lot of fans there.
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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2018, 09:29:02 pm »

As easy as the drive would have been to Dallas for Razorback fans, it's an easier drive to Detroit for Butler fans. They will essentially have a home court advantage.

Some of yíall worry to much.

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Re: Wow, ESPN BPI shows Butler as the winner
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2018, 09:34:59 pm »

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=401025827

I think we are the better overall team and can absolutely win.

But here is the thing ó there are two ways to have a great shot at getting up big on the hogs:

Have a PG who can penetrate and dish or be able to can a bunch of threes. We tend to give a lot of open three point looks, although the matchup zone has shown to help of late.
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