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ArkansasI

Out of Gas
« on: March 10, 2018, 03:20:31 pm »

3rd game in 3 days. Finished last night late, taking the court 15 hours later...

This is tough. That's why you have to earn that bye.

Go Hogs!
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2018, 03:21:22 pm »

Exactly
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2018, 03:22:00 pm »

No. Our first half offensively was the same as last night. They just canít miss.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2018, 03:23:51 pm »

They have been the more consistent team all year, but yes, this game shows why you don't win this tournament without the double bye
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2018, 03:32:29 pm »

They have been the more consistent team all year, but yes, this game shows why you don't win this tournament without the double bye

Yes, Iím sure itís playing a part but Tennessee is just better.
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Hog Pharm

Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2018, 03:33:28 pm »

No. Our first half offensively was the same as last night. They just canít miss.

True but 29 pts per half isnít close to good enough. Donít think we can put up 50 in the second like last night.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2018, 03:33:41 pm »

No. Our first half offensively was the same as last night. They just canít miss.

This. And itís not even like weíre playing bad defense. Tennessee is just playing very well today.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2018, 03:34:26 pm »

True but 29 pts per half isnít close to good enough. Donít think we can put up 50 in the second like last night.

Probably not. But fatigue isnít the reason weíre losing.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2018, 03:37:55 pm »

All tin e c today, out of gas not issue.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2018, 04:08:47 pm »

So what you're saying is the Missouri game last weekend really was an important game, despite what a lot of posters were claiming about it not being relevant.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2018, 04:09:41 pm »

We have no legs better to lose today if your not going to win it all.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2018, 04:10:06 pm »

So what you're saying is the Missouri game last weekend really was an important game, despite what a lot of posters were claiming about it not being relevant.

We wouldíve gone 0-1 or maybe 1-1 had we beaten Mizzou.
Iíd rather be 2-1 like weíre headed for.

But I do get your point.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2018, 04:10:27 pm »

We have no legs better to lose today if your not going to win it all.

Good point
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2018, 04:11:30 pm »

No team in the country would have led Tennessee at the half today.  None.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2018, 04:11:55 pm »

3 games in 36 hours is hard. Letís get rested and win some NCAAt games
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2018, 04:12:25 pm »

No team in the country would have led Tennessee at the half today.  None.

3 games in 36 hours is hard. Letís get rested and win some NCAAt games

Agreed. Go Hogs!
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ArkansasI

Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2018, 04:17:10 pm »

Of course the Missouri game mattered. We did the same thing to Vandy in last year's tourney.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2018, 04:22:46 pm »

We wouldíve gone 0-1 or maybe 1-1 had we beaten Mizzou.

And you know this how?
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2018, 04:24:09 pm »

And you know this how?

The same way you know a double bye would have helped us.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2018, 04:24:26 pm »

I think weíve played well today. This performance beats teams that arenít shooting 60% with hands in their faces most of the time.  Weíve been okay offensively and not nearly as bad as it looks defensively. 
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2018, 04:26:03 pm »

The same way you know a double bye would have helped us.
Well the history of the tournament shows having to play fewer games helps in the weekend
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2018, 04:26:24 pm »

Yep, weíre exhausted. Still played decent. Tennessee just shot lights out in the first half, and we canít make a big enough run to get a lead.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2018, 04:26:50 pm »

Well the history of the tournament shows having to play fewer games helps in the weekend

I agree. Iím just saying more than likely we werenít gonna beat Georgia and Kentucky the way we knocked off usce and Florida
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2018, 04:27:44 pm »

Mike's about to give them gas MONEY - we finish out this 4 min on a huge run to win the game.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2018, 04:28:43 pm »

Mike's about to give them gas MONEY - we finish out this 4 min on a huge run to win the game.
You been huffing that gas
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2018, 04:48:48 pm »

Just shows how important it is to get a double bye....look at the first gAme of the day
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2018, 04:57:32 pm »

So what you're saying is the Missouri game last weekend really was an important game, despite what a lot of posters were claiming about it not being relevant.
Of course it was important. But winning that game was going to be
Ike running uphill pulling  a truck behind you. If you notice the scores from the last day of the regular season, only one visiting team won, and that was Vandy at Ole Miss.
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Hoggish1

Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2018, 05:08:04 pm »

3rd game in 3 days. Finished last night late, taking the court 15 hours later...

This is tough. That's why you have to earn that bye.

Go Hogs!

Not to mention going up a team that only missed twice from the FT line and very seldom from behind the arc.  That kind of shooting is very hard to overcomeno matter how rested you are!
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2018, 06:39:16 pm »

No team in the country would have led Tennessee at the half today.  None.

This is true. With a double bye in their back pocket.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2018, 07:05:23 pm »

3rd game in 3 days. Finished last night late, taking the court 15 hours later...

This is tough. That's why you have to earn that bye.

Go Hogs!
Exactly.

They put a lot of intensity into that Florida game. They really wanted that game.

Tenn had advantage of 'revenge' from the first matchup on Dec 30.

Hogs trying to play at 2:30 Saturday after finishing at 10:30 Friday night. Just really hard to do. Tenn had a full 24 hours to rest.

Each game and each win improves your situation...whether it's for your conference tourney...or to improve your seed in the NCAA. Don't listen to anybody who says 'this game or that game doesn't mean anything'. They all mean something down the road.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2018, 07:07:44 pm »

Exactly.

They put a lot of intensity into that Florida game. They really wanted that game.

Tenn had advantage of 'revenge' from the first matchup on Dec 30.

Hogs trying to play at 2:30 Saturday after finishing at 10:30 Friday night. Just really hard to do. Tenn had a full 24 hours to rest.

Each game and each win improves your situation...whether it's for your conference tourney...or to improve your seed in the NCAA. Don't listen to anybody who says 'this game doesn't mean anything'. They all mean something down the road.

Was at the team hotel. They didn't walk in the door last nite until after mid nite. Saw some players later on getting massages trying to get ready for the short turnaround in the hallways around 1am. Proud of them. Had no legs.
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alohawg

Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2018, 07:10:00 pm »

I bet the team would have gotten better gas mileage if the coach hadn't insisted on wasting gas with the press today, and instead just played solid half court zone with Thompson and Gafford against their big front line.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2018, 07:19:12 pm »

I bet the team would have gotten better gas mileage if the coach hadn't insisted on wasting gas with the press today, and instead just played solid half court zone with Thompson and Gafford against their big front line.

Wrong. They shot us out of the zone with ease. Just wasn't there. But I doubt you know a thing about playing high level basketball 3 straight days, 2 against very good teams. Yea you know nothing. Just stop.
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alohawg

Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2018, 07:25:57 pm »

Wrong. They shot us out of the zone with ease. Just wasn't there. But I doubt you know a thing about playing high level basketball 3 straight days, 2 against very good teams. Yea you know nothing. Just stop.

I know the odds were in our favor that their % would drop in the 2nd half regardless, and that if we did not press, we would get more mileage out of those tired legs. But hey, it was only an 18 point difference, so yeah, what do I know.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2018, 07:29:09 pm »

I know the odds were in our favor that their % would drop in the 2nd half regardless, and that if we did not press, we would get more mileage out of those tired legs. But hey, it was only an 18 point difference, so yeah, what do I know.

Nothing. Nothing at all. Thanks for playing.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2018, 07:33:02 pm »

Credit Tenn. They played great.

And it was also easy to see we had just played a game late the night before. The SEC really needs to push the Saturday games back for that reason. Couple that with our style of play and the outcome was predictable.

Not even upset. I think our seed is pretty stable. Get back and rest up and be sharp Thursday/Friday.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2018, 07:37:59 pm »

Nothing. Nothing at all. Thanks for playing.

Yes, it's nothing to nobodies.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2018, 07:38:55 pm »

Yes, it's nothing to nobodies.

No you just have no ground to stand on. Very ignorant.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2018, 07:39:09 pm »

Nothing. Nothing at all. Thanks for playing.
I am not sure some really credit the level of play. It is extremely fast and precise. Little things were pretty clear though. Tenn was just a bit quicker at times. Couple times I saw Maconís legs just not fire for him. Handles just werenít as crisp for some. It doesnít take much against an elite athlete.
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alohawg

Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2018, 07:40:45 pm »

I am not sure some really credit the level of play. It is extremely fast and precise. Little things were pretty clear though. Tenn was just a bit quicker at times. Couple times I saw Maconís legs just not fire for him. Handles just werenít as crisp for some. It doesnít take much against an elite athlete.

And yet Mike had them pressing, brilliant.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2018, 07:42:44 pm »

I am not sure some really credit the level of play. It is extremely fast and precise. Little things were pretty clear though. Tenn was just a bit quicker at times. Couple times I saw Maconís legs just not fire for him. Handles just werenít as crisp for some. It doesnít take much against an elite athlete.

Exactly. Anybody with a set of eyeballs could see we were a couple steps slow. Didn't get a lot of 50/50 balls.. I was seeing the ball just fall through our guys hands on rebounds. Didn't have enough in the tank for those 3rd and 4th efforts. Matters a lot when you're playing against a high level team like Tennessee. And they really wanted it. You could tell by all the chirping that was going on during the game. It was personal for them.
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2018, 07:52:42 pm »

Some fans will criticize MA no matter if he wins the NC.

Tenn came into the game motivated and hitting on all cylinders from the start.  AR seemed to be sluggish and still managed to hang around for most of the first half.  One thing I know from being in and around athletics for years.  When your playing great and winning, everything is easier, you don't get nearly as tired, and you don't feel the pain as much.  When you are struggling, things get harder, you lose your mental ability to play free and start making more mistakes, you start feeling tired easier, you lose your motivation after a point, and everything hurts more.  AR was a little sluggish, but they showed up to play.  However, when TN hit virtually every shot they threw up and virtually every ball bounced their way, it took a mental and physical toll on the Hogs.  They still managed to fight and made a run, but TN regrouped during the clock issue and the game was over at that point.  AR didn't have the mental and physical ability to make another push.  Had they been fully in the game at that point, they would have found the will to keep fighting.  That is what happens in games and it isn't a reflection of the coach, coaching, players heart, etc.  It happens to all! Congrats to TN.  I will be mildly surprised if KY doesn't hand them their butts tomorrow.
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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2018, 08:00:32 pm »

Some fans will criticize MA no matter if he wins the NC.

Tenn came into the game motivated and hitting on all cylinders from the start.  AR seemed to be sluggish and still managed to hang around for most of the first half.  One thing I know from being in and around athletics for years.  When your playing great and winning, everything is easier, you don't get nearly as tired, and you don't feel the pain as much.  When you are struggling, things get harder, you lose your mental ability to play free and start making more mistakes, you start feeling tired easier, you lose your motivation after a point, and everything hurts more.  AR was a little sluggish, but they showed up to play.  However, when TN hit virtually every shot they threw up and virtually every ball bounced their way, it took a mental and physical toll on the Hogs.  They still managed to fight and made a run, but TN regrouped during the clock issue and the game was over at that point.  AR didn't have the mental and physical ability to make another push.  Had they been fully in the game at that point, they would have found the will to keep fighting.  That is what happens in games and it isn't a reflection of the coach, coaching, players heart, etc.  It happens to all! Congrats to TN.  I will be mildly surprised if KY doesn't hand them their butts tomorrow.

Great post. Those of us who have played understand these types of games.  Doesn't make it easier but it happens.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2018, 08:01:18 pm »

And yet Mike had them pressing, brilliant.
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And yet Mike had them pressing, brilliant.
haha. Well heís not one to quit. He tried to push his guys through it and if a few things go our way the energy picks up and who knows. Despite what some want to believe, Mike knows what heís doing.
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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2018, 08:16:01 pm »

Some fans will criticize MA no matter if he wins the NC.

Tenn came into the game motivated and hitting on all cylinders from the start.  AR seemed to be sluggish and still managed to hang around for most of the first half.  One thing I know from being in and around athletics for years.  When your playing great and winning, everything is easier, you don't get nearly as tired, and you don't feel the pain as much.  When you are struggling, things get harder, you lose your mental ability to play free and start making more mistakes, you start feeling tired easier, you lose your motivation after a point, and everything hurts more.  AR was a little sluggish, but they showed up to play.  However, when TN hit virtually every shot they threw up and virtually every ball bounced their way, it took a mental and physical toll on the Hogs.  They still managed to fight and made a run, but TN regrouped during the clock issue and the game was over at that point.  AR didn't have the mental and physical ability to make another push.  Had they been fully in the game at that point, they would have found the will to keep fighting.  That is what happens in games and it isn't a reflection of the coach, coaching, players heart, etc.  It happens to all! Congrats to TN.  I will be mildly surprised if KY doesn't hand them their butts tomorrow.

This.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2018, 08:52:34 pm »

haha. Well heís not one to quit. He tried to push his guys through it and if a few things go our way the energy picks up and who knows. Despite what some want to believe, Mike knows what heís doing.

Thus only an 18 pt. loss I guess, yeah? I'm sure if he didn't know what he's doing it would've really been bad.
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Re: Out of Gas
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2018, 08:53:09 pm »

Honestly I'll take losing to Tenn if meant beating Florida, finishing 3rd in the SECt and praying for a 6 seed on Friday night. Now we have to hope to be in a close region against an opponent we watch up well with and pray for the best. Of I were CMA I would slow things down a bit for our first game and save our legs then come out guns a blazing for our Sunday game IF we get a Friday/Sunday matchup.
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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2018, 08:58:34 pm »

Thus only an 18 pt. loss I guess, yeah? I'm sure if he didn't know what he's doing it would've really been bad.
lol. Ok.
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« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2018, 09:36:03 pm »

Thus only an 18 pt. loss I guess, yeah? I'm sure if he didn't know what he's doing it would've really been bad.

Were you born a total dummy or did you have to work at it?
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2018, 09:58:43 pm »

Honestly I'll take losing to Tenn if meant beating Florida, finishing 3rd in the SECt and praying for a 6 seed on Friday night. Now we have to hope to be in a close region against an opponent we watch up well with and pray for the best. Of I were CMA I would slow things down a bit for our first game and save our legs then come out guns a blazing for our Sunday game IF we get a Friday/Sunday matchup.

You make it sound like its just pushing buttons. CMA better not try to save anything for a game 2.
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