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Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« on: March 05, 2018, 06:50:21 pm »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 06:54:52 pm »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..

Waterboy?
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2018, 06:56:52 pm »

It's ok, we only got to page 6 of Chaney's playbook.
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PorkSoda

Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2018, 07:01:05 pm »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..
do you know how long his playbook is?

I've heard something in the neighborhood of 600 pages. 

so no, he is not going to "implement his full play book"

He is going to implement the plays he expects to use out of his play book.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2018, 07:02:03 pm »

I'm sure we'll keep the play calling vanilla the first few games...........
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2018, 07:03:27 pm »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..

Seriously though, it wouldn't be surprising. I'll bet he gets more of it in than not. Just keep in mind that his first year at SMU they generated 382.8 yds of total offense. Year 2 = 427.3, year 3 = 478.5. It takes time to implement new schemes and have the talent to run those schemes effectively. The more important contribution will come from the defense and how quickly Chavis can make the defense turn the corner. We have talent, it just needs to be schemed in a better way.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2018, 07:38:43 pm »

He said it himself in an interview that they may or may not. Said it may be year two or three before it’s all installed iirc.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2018, 07:55:02 pm »

Wait, so I haven’t heard anything about hoganese. If he tried that he might get it all installed......
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2018, 07:58:00 pm »

He said it himself in an interview that they may or may not. Said it may be year two or three before it’s all installed iirc.

Haha- exactly

Not really breaking any news here
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jkstock04

Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2018, 08:00:54 pm »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..
Not surprising. Other than there being a football and pads to put on I’m sure it’s night and day different vs what was happening this time last year.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2018, 08:02:02 pm »

Seriously though, it wouldn't be surprising. I'll bet he gets more of it in than not. Just keep in mind that his first year at SMU they generated 382.8 yds of total offense. Year 2 = 427.3, year 3 = 478.5. It takes time to implement new schemes and have the talent to run those schemes effectively. The more important contribution will come from the defense and how quickly Chavis can make the defense turn the corner. We have talent, it just needs to be schemed in a better way.

With our talent and going against the SEC defenses I am curious what you guys think is reasonable for offensive production ypg year one??? 

350 ypg
400 ypg
450 ypg
500 ypg????

I think just off the cuff we should be close to 400 ypg.  Just a guess.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2018, 08:11:42 pm »

Nothing really live, local or latebreaking about the team having opportunities adjusting to the new playbook given they’re what, 3 or 4 practices into spring ball.  More broadly, I don’t know many that would expect a full playbook install in year 1, including the coaching staff. Now, if said playbook is a leaflet, we’ve got larger issues....
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2018, 08:33:48 pm »

Seriously though, it wouldn't be surprising. I'll bet he gets more of it in than not. Just keep in mind that his first year at SMU they generated 382.8 yds of total offense. Year 2 = 427.3, year 3 = 478.5. It takes time to implement new schemes and have the talent to run those schemes effectively. The more important contribution will come from the defense and how quickly Chavis can make the defense turn the corner. We have talent, it just needs to be schemed in a better way.

Good take. I agree, defense is the key. 
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2018, 09:06:08 pm »

Nothing really live, local or latebreaking about the team having opportunities adjusting to the new playbook given they’re what, 3 or 4 practices into spring ball.  More broadly, I don’t know many that would expect a full playbook install in year 1, including the coaching staff. Now, if said playbook is a leaflet, we’ve got larger issues....

Trust me. By the time the season rolls around Hogville will have this team ready to win a championship.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2018, 09:36:01 pm »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..

BREAKING NEWS: Players do not know full brand new offense and playbook two days into spring camp.

Its not surprising. It'll take a little time for it to sink in. That is nothing to freak out about. If they could run it perfectly after two days of spring ball you would need be worried that it is too similar to the old playbook and nothing was changing.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2018, 10:09:23 pm »

Waterboy?

No, pig in the pokey told him.
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alohawg

Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2018, 10:12:25 pm »

With our talent and going against the SEC defenses I am curious what you guys think is reasonable for offensive production ypg year one??? 

350 ypg
400 ypg
450 ypg
500 ypg????

I think just off the cuff we should be close to 400 ypg.  Just a guess.

500 ypg!!! Bad news is the defense might give up a 1000 ypg.  :)
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2018, 10:15:42 pm »

At a minimum, it takes one and a half to two full seasons to fully install an offense.  I figure we’ll be at about 60% in the fall.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2018, 10:21:48 pm »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..
I heard it was by design. You know, like drown them with it to up the stress factor and then thin back the install rate so as to make it easier to retain. I heard it from THE source....
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2018, 10:24:57 pm »

No, pig in the pokey told him.
Did he say, "Book It Baw.!!"..?
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2018, 10:36:42 pm »

I'm sure we'll keep the play calling vanilla the first few games...........

LMAO. Underrated post
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2018, 10:41:08 pm »

Really, after Bert's last season...........
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2018, 12:21:45 am »

No way they can get ALL the playbook installed. Like many have said already, that's a multi year task. Seems like our guys are having a bit of a hang up with the multiple sets and shifts that this offense uses. Practice makes perfect, ready to watch the scrimmage.  WPS
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2018, 12:25:54 am »

I just hope we run the ole Turbo Buffalo this year.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2018, 12:42:11 am »

Waterboy?

He's said as much in his pressers.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2018, 01:03:37 am »

I just hope we run the ole Turbo Buffalo this year.

Well, Bret Bielema ran the "Shuffle Off To Buffalo" maneuver at the end of this past season.  That should count for something.

Chad Morris brought the new "turbo" engine with him.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2018, 01:19:28 am »

A few months ago Morris walks in and passes out the offensive playbook…EVERYONE in the room is seeing it all for the first time. But one year from now, practically everyone will know it. It won't be anything new. These growing pains will pass quickly.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2018, 06:14:43 am »

2 practices in is a little early to make predicts about what will and won't be implemented.

I'm sure there will be bumps when changing to this type of offense. Clemson we a pro style ish team also when Morris arrived and they had a good offensive year. Hopefully something similar can happen here
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2018, 06:25:57 am »

Its a huge change.  Just the pre snap motion alone is going to be a huge adjustment.  But like most playbooks there aren't 600 uniquely different plays.  A lot of times the same play is run out of a few different formations.  I'm sure they'll install all of the plays needed to maximize our talent level. 
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2018, 06:39:18 am »

I believe most new coaches do not implement their whole playbook the first year.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2018, 06:52:23 am »

He said it himself in an interview that they may or may not. Said it may be year two or three before it’s all installed iirc.

You remember correctly.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2018, 07:29:54 am »

Crap, if he knows who will be starting on the o-line by late September he will be ahead of the curve.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2018, 07:32:58 am »

Trust me. By the time the season rolls around Hogville will have this team ready to win a championship.



Those of us predicting 5 or 6 wins will be labeled as haters and trolls




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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2018, 07:55:04 am »

A few months ago Morris walks in and passes out the offensive playbook…EVERYONE in the room is seeing it all for the first time. But one year from now, practically everyone will know it. It won't be anything new. These growing pains will pass quickly.
And a few years ago Bielema walked in and passed out.  Big difference!
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2018, 07:58:10 am »

No, pig in the pokey told him.
he's right, you know....

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..
he said from the get go it's over 1000 pages and will take a couple years to install.

Also, Clemson couldnt even do it. They took 10% of it and installed that and called it a wrap.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2018, 09:47:32 am »

So what happened to "Put it in the left lane and Hammer Down?"
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2018, 09:56:21 am »

We are 3 days into spring drills.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2018, 10:01:01 am »



Those of us predicting 5 or 6 wins will be labeled as haters and trolls

Only if you're still predicting it after we go 5-0, or are rubbing people's noses in it if we're 1-4...
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2018, 10:01:38 am »



Those of us predicting 5 or 6 wins will be labeled as haters and trolls

THERE'S NO REASON WE SHOULDN'T WIN 19 GAMES WITH THIS SCHEDULE AND BRAND NEW STAFF AND LEFTOVER TALENT!!!
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2018, 10:03:10 am »

Great point. Also, why didn't the construction crew finish the north end zone project by November??!!
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2018, 10:22:31 am »

Great point. Also, why didn't the construction crew finish the north end zone project by November??!!
GC couldn't fully comprehend the plans and specs ????
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2018, 10:31:14 am »

Players are having quite an adjustment catching on. Good source..
They've only been through 2 practices. Lets see how theyre doing 2 weeks from now
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2018, 10:33:58 am »

Only if you're still predicting it after we go 5-0, or are rubbing people's noses in it if we're 1-4...


I'd love to be wrong and us start 5-0


I Also would never rub anyone's nose. That's just weird.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2018, 10:46:10 am »

We are 3 days into spring drills.

National title game or bust! :D
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2018, 10:57:26 am »

I think CM stated this.. when he said he rather have SEVERAL things GREAT than a lot of things good..

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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2018, 11:04:55 am »

Crap, if he knows who will be starting on the o-line by late September he will be ahead of the curve.

:)
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2018, 12:47:55 pm »



Those of us predicting 5 or 6 wins will be labeled as haters and trolls






I won't label you that way...it's the great unknown at this point.

However, I think an 8+ win season is possible with the schedule this year.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2018, 01:00:38 pm »

Petrino's offense was complicated and graduation rates have gone up since then. AR will be okay.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2018, 01:13:55 pm »

I'm sure we'll keep the play calling vanilla the first few games...........

nailed it!  Besides, we don't want to give away anything before we play Bama.
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Re: Hearing Morris may not implement his full playbook in year 1
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2018, 05:24:05 pm »

Clemson promoted 2 position coaches to replace Morris and run his playbook, but they didn't even know it all, so they stuck with the basics of it and won a national title doing that.
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