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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2018, 08:32:07 am »

Beat Alabama (Saban), Auburn (Malzahn), LSU (Orgeron), or A&M (Fisher) with Morris as our HC for the next 5 years because we will not be able to recruit well enough, and that Morris is not or will ever be able to out coach the afore mentioned coaches.

Honestly, I thought my friend was just being cocky after a few bourbons, but he is dead serious.  He's not some blowhard, rather he is well educated and follows college football closely. 

I personally think he is full of crap, that with the right coach we can beat teams/coaches like the ones mentioned regardless of our recruiting rankings...our history has proven this.  What say you?  Have the times changed so much that we will never be able to compete with the top echelon of the SEC West again, or do we really need to consider taking our ball and playing somewhere else?

There's no reason for Arkansas not to beat A & M in 7 out of 10 games.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2018, 08:36:03 am »

There's no reason for Arkansas not to beat A & M in 7 out of 10 games.

I can think of 2 reasons looking at it objectively.  They have easier access to talent and greater resources.  We can complete for players in Texas, but the advantage goes to the school that resides in the state.  It's like getting players out of Georgia.  You can get them, but UGA has the advantage.  Same for FL or any other state that has P5 programs.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2018, 08:56:29 am »

I can think of 2 reasonsLoking at it objectively.  They have easier access to talent and greater resources.  We can complete for players in Texas, but the advantage goes to the school that resides in the state.  It's like getting players out of Georgia.  You can get them, but UGA has the advantage.  Same for FL or any other state that has P5 programs.

They also have to deal with Texas, TCU, Tech, Baylor....

There's no reason we're not on the same level with LSU, Auburn...
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #103 on: March 06, 2018, 09:01:04 am »

Beat Alabama (Saban), Auburn (Malzahn), LSU (Orgeron), or A&M (Fisher) with Morris as our HC for the next 5 years because we will not be able to recruit well enough, and that Morris is not or will ever be able to out coach the afore mentioned coaches.

Honestly, I thought my friend was just being cocky after a few bourbons, but he is dead serious.  He's not some blowhard, rather he is well educated and follows college football closely. 

I personally think he is full of crap, that with the right coach we can beat teams/coaches like the ones mentioned regardless of our recruiting rankings...our history has proven this.  What say you?  Have the times changed so much that we will never be able to compete with the top echelon of the SEC West again, or do we really need to consider taking our ball and playing somewhere else?


 I had someone tell me the same darn when HDN was hired. I hope we have similar results. Another good 42 to 6 impossibility is what they need... Before you say it's not possibro; I heard that in 1998 too.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #104 on: March 06, 2018, 09:01:15 am »

They also have to deal with Texas, TCU, Tech, Baylor....

There's no reason we're not on the same level with LSU, Auburn...

There are actually a lot of reasons.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #105 on: March 06, 2018, 09:04:06 am »

I can think of 2 reasons looking at it objectively.  They have easier access to talent and greater resources.  We can complete for players in Texas, but the advantage goes to the school that resides in the state.  It's like getting players out of Georgia.  You can get them, but UGA has the advantage.  Same for FL or any other state that has P5 programs.
No way dude. You just don't get Texas. aTm will always be the Arkansas State of Texas. Every advantage that they have now they have had forever, and they have yet to really beat us. We have let them slip away with one even as down as we have been... Same goes for TCU. All of those teams know we own them.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #106 on: March 06, 2018, 09:06:35 am »

Everyone in this thread who is annoyed --- remember this next time y'all see those fans of ours that pull for the "S-E-C!"
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #107 on: March 06, 2018, 09:09:37 am »

No way dude. You just don't get Texas. aTm will always be the Arkansas State of Texas. Every advantage that they have now they have had forever, and they have yet to really beat us. We have let them slip away with one even as down as we have been... Same goes for TCU. All of those teams know we own them.

Haven't we lost 6 straight to aTm? Don't they usually beat us in recruiting?

I coulda sworn TCU won a BCS game and a New Year's Six in the past decade.

I guess my memory is just going.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #108 on: March 06, 2018, 09:11:32 am »

No way dude. You just don't get Texas. aTm will always be the Arkansas State of Texas. Every advantage that they have now they have had forever, and they have yet to really beat us. We have let them slip away with one even as down as we have been... Same goes for TCU. All of those teams know we own them.

Both programs have new coaches, so you can throw that out and just look at the other factors.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #109 on: March 06, 2018, 09:20:45 am »

Both programs have new coaches, so you can throw that out and just look at the other factors.
OK... What is the record between the two without those coaches? I'll tell you. We've won 3 out of the last 4...
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #110 on: March 06, 2018, 09:26:57 am »

OK... What is the record between the two without those coaches? I'll tell you. We've won 3 out of the last 4...

Are we talking about before they moved to the SEC?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #111 on: March 06, 2018, 09:36:07 am »

There are actually a lot of reasons.

...as well as a lot that we should be better.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #112 on: March 06, 2018, 09:42:38 am »

...as well as a lot that we should be better.

Such as?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #113 on: March 06, 2018, 09:43:46 am »

Are we talking about before they moved to the SEC?
The reason they have beaten us ((AND JUST BARELY DONE SO)) in the past 5 years has nothing to do with them being in the SEC. Your argument is flawed, just as the fear mongering was flawed when others were spouting this darn in 2012. We have lost in OT to these tools 3 out of the last 5 years. We have blown leads to them 4 out of the last 5 years. They beat the darn out of us ONCE...

 We have been on the worst 5 year period we have ever seen due to piss poor coaching and not the other bull darn that everyone uses to say we can NEVER do it.!! There is NO REASON to believe that Arkansas cannot and will not overcome our past 5 years. Look at the recruiting prowess CCM is displaying and relax already. Pull with us or pull out.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #114 on: March 06, 2018, 09:53:29 am »

The reason they have beaten us ((AND JUST BARELY DONE SO)) in the past 5 years has nothing to do with them being in the SEC. Your argument is flawed, just as the fear mongering was flawed when others were spouting this darn in 2012. We have lost in OT to these tools 3 out of the last 5 years. We have blown leads to them 4 out of the last 5 years. They beat the darn out of us ONCE...

 We have been on the worst 5 year period we have ever seen due to piss poor coaching and not the other bull darn that everyone uses to say we can NEVER do it.!! There is NO REASON to believe that Arkansas cannot and will not overcome our past 5 years. Look at the recruiting prowess CCM is displaying and relax already. Pull with us or pull out.

Your argument almost reads as though we're getting better but A&M is stagnant. I don't think that's the case. Every team in the SEC is always moving either up or down. The overwhelming notion on this board is that we're always improving and on the up and up while everyone else is staying put or getting worse.

But I do agree with you. We probably should beat A&M most years. Or at least play .500 against them. But to act like we're the only team getting better just doesn't work.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #115 on: March 06, 2018, 09:59:59 am »

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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #116 on: March 06, 2018, 10:06:00 am »

Ed Orgeron and Gus Malzahn.

So we should be better because of two coaches unaffiliated with our program?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #117 on: March 06, 2018, 10:06:17 am »

Ed Orgeron and Gus Malzahn.

Is a 43-17 regular season SEC record bad or something? 4 top twenty five finishes and 2 top ten finishes in 5 years is bad?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #118 on: March 06, 2018, 10:09:59 am »

Is a 43-17 regular season SEC record bad or something? 4 top twenty five finishes and 2 top ten finishes in 5 years is bad?

Just going by the collective opinion of HV.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #119 on: March 06, 2018, 10:12:35 am »

Just going by the collective opinion of HV.

Right. I think I'm done here.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2018, 10:14:32 am »

The reason they have beaten us ((AND JUST BARELY DONE SO)) in the past 5 years has nothing to do with them being in the SEC. Your argument is flawed, just as the fear mongering was flawed when others were spouting this darn in 2012. We have lost in OT to these tools 3 out of the last 5 years. We have blown leads to them 4 out of the last 5 years. They beat the darn out of us ONCE...

 We have been on the worst 5 year period we have ever seen due to piss poor coaching and not the other bull darn that everyone uses to say we can NEVER do it.!! There is NO REASON to believe that Arkansas cannot and will not overcome our past 5 years. Look at the recruiting prowess CCM is displaying and relax already. Pull with us or pull out.

Recruiting prowess?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2018, 10:18:09 am »

Never say never. Ole Miss mustered up a good enough Offense to beat them. State did as well. I think Morris is at least as good as the escort loving coach Ole Miss had.
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This.....Remember, they were just a "Hunter Heave" away from the SEC champ game
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2018, 10:30:50 am »

Your argument almost reads as though we're getting better but A&M is stagnant. I don't think that's the case. Every team in the SEC is always moving either up or down. The overwhelming notion on this board is that we're always improving and on the up and up while everyone else is staying put or getting worse.

But I do agree with you. We probably should beat A&M most years. Or at least play .500 against them. But to act like we're the only team getting better just doesn't work.

 My argument is that even though both are getting better we have not been playing up to potential. We were actually getting worse, but we are getting better now...
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #123 on: March 06, 2018, 10:32:18 am »

This.....Remember, they were just a "Hunter Heave" away from the SEC champ game
I loved the Hunter Heave. One of the most memorable  plays ever for Arkansas. But who benefited from that play more than Arkansas? Alabama (SEC) If that play happened against Alabama, the refs would have called it down. Game over.

On another subject. I predict that the first year Gus wins just 8 games, the year after he gets fired. The first year CM wins 8 games, he gets a extension. GO figure lol.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #124 on: March 06, 2018, 10:33:51 am »

The reason they have beaten us ((AND JUST BARELY DONE SO)) in the past 5 years has nothing to do with them being in the SEC. Your argument is flawed, just as the fear mongering was flawed when others were spouting this darn in 2012. We have lost in OT to these tools 3 out of the last 5 years. We have blown leads to them 4 out of the last 5 years. They beat the darn out of us ONCE...

 We have been on the worst 5 year period we have ever seen due to piss poor coaching and not the other bull darn that everyone uses to say we can NEVER do it.!! There is NO REASON to believe that Arkansas cannot and will not overcome our past 5 years. Look at the recruiting prowess CCM is displaying and relax already. Pull with us or pull out.

I thought our recruiting was still really poor?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2018, 10:34:06 am »

My argument is that even though both are getting better we have not been playing up to potential. We were actually getting worse, but we are getting better now...

We seem to be getting better, yes. But we haven't played a down of football. We don't know if we're getting better.

I do think we are, and I think Morris will have Petrino-like (yes, I invoked the name of our savior) success here, I really do. But we have no clue yet.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2018, 10:49:55 am »

We seem to be getting better, yes. But we haven't played a down of football. We don't know if we're getting better.

I do think we are, and I think Morris will have Petrino-like (yes, I invoked the name of our savior) success here, I really do. But we have no clue yet.
I agree, but I cannot help myself when it comes to believing in CCM's methodology vs Brett's stratagem, whatever that was anyway... With all of it being speculation, and all speculation being equal, I am going to assume that having a plan to make this team tougher in the 4th quarter is going to make us better. I also believe that our defense will improve as well. Who cares who wins the argument. I sure don't. I just don't want to spend 4 months having to choose between my love of the Hogs and my love of being right. If we both agree that it would be better if I were right why can't we stop trying to prove me wrong ahead of time?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #127 on: March 06, 2018, 10:55:17 am »

I agree, but I cannot help myself when it comes to believing in CCM's methodology vs Brett's stratagem, whatever that was anyway... With all of it being speculation, and all speculation being equal, I am going to assume that having a plan to make this team tougher in the 4th quarter is going to make us better. I also believe that our defense will improve as well. Who cares who wins the argument. I sure don't. I just don't want to spend 4 months having to choose between my love of the Hogs and my love of being right. If we both agree that it would be better if I were right why can't we stop trying to prove me wrong ahead of time?

Where were you on CBB's strategy when he was hired?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2018, 11:41:14 am »

Where were you on CBB's strategy when he was hired?

I know where I was.  I was convinced he was a terrible hire for all the reasons we saw play out.  It was the first time in my life I thought the new coach was terrible.  However, he hired a great staff and there wasn’t much choice but to pull for him.  I didn’t know anything about Morris and thought “who?”  Then I read about him, listened to him and paid attention and realize we may have gotten the steal of all steals.  Yeah, he’s still got to prove it but there is almost zero reason to think he can’t win right now and build us back.  Everything about the man screams winner.  Only time will tell but all indicators are good for now. 
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #129 on: March 06, 2018, 11:43:25 am »

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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2018, 11:43:50 am »

Beat Alabama (Saban), Auburn (Malzahn), LSU (Orgeron), or A&M (Fisher) with Morris as our HC for the next 5 years because we will not be able to recruit well enough, and that Morris is not or will ever be able to out coach the afore mentioned coaches.


Uh...all these teams except may be Bama have been beatable for Arkansas when we had a different coach.  Much to be determined since we haven't even seen a single game-time snap under CCM.  But if I were a betting man, I'd tell your buddy to hang onto his bourbon.  He gonna need it soon for all the wrong reasons...
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #131 on: March 06, 2018, 11:48:10 am »

That's the funny thing about sports fans.  Because so many base their self worth on how their team does, they think that their opinion carries more weight when their team does well.  It doesn't.

Fans are fans are fans.  Alabama fans don't know anything more than anyone else just because Saban recruits out of his mind.

Also, anyone who makes statements that extreme is just stupid or an attention whore.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #132 on: March 06, 2018, 11:58:26 am »

These stories always crack me up. “I have a PhDed master class football teacher plain talker friend from the place you might find relevant to the point I wish to make (ex Alabama) who says blah blah blah”

They all use the same formula. “I was at a rando gas station in Wisconsin and this wise wizard  of CFB come and he laid the truth on me bout Coach B...”


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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #133 on: March 06, 2018, 12:13:16 pm »

Where were you on CBB's strategy when he was hired?
I thought he was a good hire at the time.
 Go ahead and play wait and see for success. There are some things you have to believe before you see them, or else you can never see them. I believe Arkansas will exceed your expectations, but not mine...
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« Reply #134 on: March 06, 2018, 12:33:55 pm »

This is why having bama friends is always a bad idea. They’re insufferable.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #135 on: March 06, 2018, 12:46:19 pm »

Bama Fan
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #136 on: March 06, 2018, 01:02:44 pm »

What was Beamers record the first 5 years. Va Tech was never considered much nationally until Vick. They be good for 3 or 4 loses since.

His first 6 seasons at VT he went 24-40-2 before taking them to 4-straight 8-win seasons including two 10-win seasons in '95 and '96, and a Sugar Bowl win and Orange Bowl appearance, respectively. I am a fan of Morris, but this is exactly why a case that Bielema should have gotten another season can be made. Success can be attained after failure.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #137 on: March 06, 2018, 01:11:52 pm »

I thought he was a good hire at the time.
 Go ahead and play wait and see for success. There are some things you have to believe before you see them, or else you can never see them. I believe Arkansas will exceed your expectations, but not mine...

I think CMM will do a pretty good job.  I think he can replicate what CBB did in his better years on a more consistent basis and IF he is able to elevate the recruiting profile maybe even climb up a spot in the division.

That is a very reasonable, very realistic expectation.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #138 on: March 06, 2018, 03:20:52 pm »

Saying we won't beat Saban is something 99% of the country can sympathize with.  As far as the other 3, your friend is just a blowhard.  Ogeron will not be successful at LSU, Malzhann is his own worst enemy, and Fisher is yet to be determined.  Time for some new friends.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #139 on: March 06, 2018, 03:21:41 pm »

Beat Alabama (Saban), Auburn (Malzahn), LSU (Orgeron), or A&M (Fisher) with Morris as our HC for the next 5 years because we will not be able to recruit well enough, and that Morris is not or will ever be able to out coach the afore mentioned coaches.

Honestly, I thought my friend was just being cocky after a few bourbons, but he is dead serious.  He's not some blowhard, rather he is well educated and follows college football closely. 

I personally think he is full of crap, that with the right coach we can beat teams/coaches like the ones mentioned regardless of our recruiting rankings...our history has proven this.  What say you?  Have the times changed so much that we will never be able to compete with the top echelon of the SEC West again, or do we really need to consider taking our ball and playing somewhere else?


One man's opinion.  'Bama arrogance and bourbon tolerance don't necessarily equate to football acumen. I would be willing to bet we beat them all - well, 3 out of 4, - within 5 years.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #140 on: March 06, 2018, 03:47:56 pm »

Beat Alabama (Saban), Auburn (Malzahn), LSU (Orgeron), or A&M (Fisher) with Morris as our HC for the next 5 years because we will not be able to recruit well enough, and that Morris is not or will ever be able to out coach the afore mentioned coaches.

Honestly, I thought my friend was just being cocky after a few bourbons, but he is dead serious.  He's not some blowhard, rather he is well educated and follows college football closely. 

I personally think he is full of crap, that with the right coach we can beat teams/coaches like the ones mentioned regardless of our recruiting rankings...our history has proven this.  What say you?  Have the times changed so much that we will never be able to compete with the top echelon of the SEC West again, or do we really need to consider taking our ball and playing somewhere else?



Your friend thinks we won't win a single game over 5 years against any of the above listed teams?  Is he willing to put his money where his mouth is?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #141 on: March 06, 2018, 03:57:17 pm »

Morris is our best shot at recruiting well than any other coach we've had. Petrino wasn't that great of a recruiter but he made up for it with top-notch in-game coaching. Bielema was a pretty bad recruiter and on top of that was a horrible game day coach and was really trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. The one pipeline he had (South Florida) was pretty much torched by the time he left.

Morris has ACTUAL recruiting ties. Often times when you hear of a guy with "recruiting ties" it's something like "Oh he spent 2 season at TCU so he has Texas connections." Morris has a lifetime of actual, real Texas connections. We saw that at SMU. When he got there it had the least amount of Texas kids on the roster and he completely turned that around. In fact IIRC he recruited exclusively Texas kids to SMU.

The thing that remains to be seen is if he can recruit blue-chip Texas recruits to Arkansas and not just the scraps of UT and A&M. It's a wait-and-see deal, but he's our best chance so far.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #142 on: March 06, 2018, 04:16:34 pm »

Your argument almost reads as though we're getting better but A&M is stagnant. I don't think that's the case. Every team in the SEC is always moving either up or down. The overwhelming notion on this board is that we're always improving and on the up and up while everyone else is staying put or getting worse.

But I do agree with you. We probably should beat A&M most years. Or at least play .500 against them. But to act like we're the only team getting better just doesn't work.

During the Bret years,  the West was always getting better. Even as we improved (13-14-15) they improved more.

Then LSU hired Gumbo man, Old Miss got banhammered, State lost their best coach ever, & A&M paid out the nose for an equal or worse coach IMO elwho doesn't run an offense compatible with Texas HS systems.  (andthey have also started doing embarrassing Tennessee-esque things.)

Meanwhile we ditched one of our all time worst coaches and brought in a dude who helped write the modern book on winning above your station (exactly what we need).

It's not a reach to say that we really are improving compared to most of our competition.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #143 on: March 06, 2018, 04:23:32 pm »

We would be capable of doing the same if we had someone with a Dodge dealership willing to help out.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #144 on: March 06, 2018, 05:07:30 pm »

Beat Alabama (Saban), Auburn (Malzahn), LSU (Orgeron), or A&M (Fisher) with Morris as our HC for the next 5 years because we will not be able to recruit well enough, and that Morris is not or will ever be able to out coach the afore mentioned coaches.

Honestly, I thought my friend was just being cocky after a few bourbons, but he is dead serious.  He's not some blowhard, rather he is well educated and follows college football closely. 

I personally think he is full of crap, that with the right coach we can beat teams/coaches like the ones mentioned regardless of our recruiting rankings...our history has proven this.  What say you?  Have the times changed so much that we will never be able to compete with the top echelon of the SEC West again, or do we really need to consider taking our ball and playing somewhere else?

Were you looking for advice on how to respond to your friend?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #145 on: March 06, 2018, 05:22:06 pm »

During the Bret years,  the West was always getting better. Even as we improved (13-14-15) they improved more.

Then LSU hired Gumbo man, Old Miss got banhammered, State lost their best coach ever, & A&M paid out the nose for an equal or worse coach IMO elwho doesn't run an offense compatible with Texas HS systems.  (andthey have also started doing embarrassing Tennessee-esque things.)

Meanwhile we ditched one of our all time worst coaches and brought in a dude who helped write the modern book on winning above your station (exactly what we need).

It's not a reach to say that we really are improving compared to most of our competition.

Not biased at all. I bet you could find this same objective post on any number of boards.

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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #146 on: March 06, 2018, 05:36:30 pm »

I believe the same holds true with Auburn.
People forget that before Bielema we beat Auburn with some regularity. 
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #147 on: March 06, 2018, 05:44:30 pm »

Historically, Saban (at LSU and Bama) plus Florida are the only teams we have not been competitive with even with our sub par recruiting.  Otherwise we have and will compete with every other program.  If Morris actually does bump our recruiting up plus bring his offensive genius and Chavis’ sound defense to the table, we’ll only be outclassed and outmatched against two current SEC teams (Bama & Georgia).  Realistically, no reason we can’t regularly post 4-4 SEC seasons at worst.  5-3 and 6-2 are within reach.  Then there will be that one year where we might just go 7-1 and go to Atlanta.
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #148 on: March 06, 2018, 08:16:34 pm »

Not biased at all. I bet you could find this same objective post on any number of boards.

What, specifically, do you disagree with?
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Re: Bama Fan Friend Tells me Arkansas Will Not...
« Reply #149 on: March 07, 2018, 09:06:46 am »

Beat Alabama (Saban), Auburn (Malzahn), LSU (Orgeron), or A&M (Fisher) with Morris as our HC for the next 5 years because we will not be able to recruit well enough, and that Morris is not or will ever be able to out coach the afore mentioned coaches.

Honestly, I thought my friend was just being cocky after a few bourbons, but he is dead serious.  He's not some blowhard, rather he is well educated and follows college football closely. 

I personally think he is full of crap, that with the right coach we can beat teams/coaches like the ones mentioned regardless of our recruiting rankings...our history has proven this.  What say you?  Have the times changed so much that we will never be able to compete with the top echelon of the SEC West again, or do we really need to consider taking our ball and playing somewhere else?
The rajun cajun at LSU is already starting to faulter, from what I am hearing. He has already shown his true head coaching chops at Ole Miss. He's a great DC and recruiter, but not so good as a HC. Orgeron will not win a national title at LSU, and he will most likely end up getting fired after a couple of sub-par seasons.

He's probably right about Saban and Alabama, though. I don't see the Hogs beating the Tide in the foreseeable future.

Malzahn = cheater. Arkansas dodged a huge bullet by not hiring that guy. He's as dirty as they come. With any luck, it will all come out in an investigation. Either way, Gus played AU just right to get a big payday. He'll have really good teams every 3 or 4 seasons, with mediocre teams in between. 

Fisher - who knows?! Dude won a NC at Florida St in his 4th year, then somehow managed to let that program slip to 7-6 this past season. That shows me he was handed the keys to a sleeping powerhouse, won big, then mismanaged the team by not recruiting, and used his past success to get a huge payday at another program dumb enough to pay him. He could turn the Aggies into a Top 5 team and win a title (which would make every single Aggie on the planet an even bigger insufferable jerk than they already are), or he could have moderate success over the next few seasons before moving on again.  ???
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