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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #100 on: March 12, 2018, 05:36:41 pm »

Rumors that Bo Mattinglyís ďBeing Bill Belichikís jelly sandwich BoyĒ is in the works.

Fixed that for you.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #101 on: March 12, 2018, 05:45:18 pm »

Belichick has said that he likes Bielema. Maybe this is his next opportunity. Hope he gets it and learns some stuff then gets back in the game. Iím glad heís gone, but I hope he lands in his feet again.

Good post! I agree.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #102 on: March 13, 2018, 06:59:00 am »

Is he going to help them recognize big and slow?

Are the athletes Morris is bragging on big and slow?
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2018, 07:06:32 am »

Are the athletes Morris is bragging on big and slow?

They are in the process of losing weight and getting into SEC shape....that didn't seem to be a focus of the previous staff.

Just think of the W's we COULD have had if the focus was on conditioning to make it through 4qtrs of football.

We are competing against each other - it's hard to tell what you have.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #104 on: March 13, 2018, 07:31:18 am »

Does everyone just think that he made some huge mistake by talking to BB? I highly doubt Bill suddenly became incompetent in his decision making.
Absolutely not, the guy didn't forget how to evaluate or coach, it just didn't work out for him at Arkansas.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #105 on: March 13, 2018, 08:08:05 am »

Absolutely not, the guy didn't forget how to evaluate or coach, it just didn't work out for him at Arkansas.

I think he would still be a head coach if he could find a staff....
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #106 on: March 13, 2018, 09:35:41 am »

Absolutely not, the guy didn't forget how to evaluate or coach, it just didn't work out for him at Arkansas.

100% agree.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #107 on: March 13, 2018, 09:50:04 am »

100% agree.

....but why could he not keep a quality staff together? It hard to be an CEO style head coach if you don't have assistants under you to manage.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2018, 10:39:13 am »

....but why could he not keep a quality staff together? It hard to be an CEO style head coach if you don't have assistants under you to manage.

Thatís a great question and I donít have the answers. I wouldnít doubt if many left so they didnít have to play the SEC West and ruin the numbers that will go into the record books with their names by it.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #109 on: March 13, 2018, 10:41:30 am »

....but why could he not keep a quality staff together? It hard to be an CEO style head coach if you don't have assistants under you to manage.

Probably because his huge ego got in the way. He had great assistants. I just personally think he held them on such short leashes that it affected more than we realize in terms of playcalling, development, etc.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #110 on: March 13, 2018, 12:28:10 pm »

So, Iím just going to say it, but Belichick is one of the best coaches in NFL history. Heís notorious for finding talent. Does everyone just think that he made some huge mistake by talking to BB? I highly doubt Bill suddenly became incompetent in his decision making.

Maybe...just maybe...thereís a highly bitter group here who will just moan no matter what about a coach weve already fired.
Anyone who thinks Bielema is an awesome or even good coach has to have an absolute piss poor view of Arkansas or the ability for ANYONE to coach here. In other words, this coaching job is an impossibility since a coach of Bielemas (supposed) caliber couldnít get it done. Thatís the only excuse in his corner. Seems legit to me. /s

Unfortunately for us, Bielema did paint this as a reality of our program at least by outside perception. Instead of being a middle of the road team that competes for the conference on occasion...we are now a cellar dweller that competes for middle of the road on occasion. It will be up to Chad Morris to change that perception.

What an awful 5 year stretch...I just canít buy it that Bielema really is a great coach, ďit just didnít work out here.Ē That is so cliche and homeristic...especially if you somehow believe that AND have the opinion it is possible to compete for championships here.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #111 on: March 13, 2018, 01:51:58 pm »

Anyone who thinks Bielema is an awesome or even good coach has to have an absolute piss poor view of Arkansas or the ability for ANYONE to coach here. In other words, this coaching job is an impossibility since a coach of Bielemas (supposed) caliber couldnít get it done. Thatís the only excuse in his corner. Seems legit to me. /s

Unfortunately for us, Bielema did paint this as a reality of our program at least by outside perception. Instead of being a middle of the road team that competes for the conference on occasion...we are now a cellar dweller that competes for middle of the road on occasion. It will be up to Chad Morris to change that perception.

What an awful 5 year stretch...I just canít buy it that Bielema really is a great coach, ďit just didnít work out here.Ē That is so cliche and homeristic...especially if you somehow believe that AND have the opinion it is possible to compete for championships here.

I donít necessarily disagree with what you said, but the downfall of BB was trying to become Alabama and just try to use a ďIím gonna line up against you and weíre going to impose our will on youĒ mentality that he used at Wisconsin. I donít think heís an elite coach in any way, but trying to do things his way was just an uphill battle from the start going through the SECW.

I wish him the best as he may be getting his foot in the door with an Elite NFL coach, but Iím glad weíve turned the page and have moved on to the next chapter with s coach I have high expectations for.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2018, 02:39:25 pm »

Good for coach B.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2018, 03:12:42 pm »

Anyone who thinks Bielema is an awesome or even good coach has to have an absolute piss poor view of Arkansas or the ability for ANYONE to coach here. In other words, this coaching job is an impossibility since a coach of Bielemas (supposed) caliber couldnít get it done. Thatís the only excuse in his corner. Seems legit to me. /s

Unfortunately for us, Bielema did paint this as a reality of our program at least by outside perception. Instead of being a middle of the road team that competes for the conference on occasion...we are now a cellar dweller that competes for middle of the road on occasion. It will be up to Chad Morris to change that perception.

What an awful 5 year stretch...I just canít buy it that Bielema really is a great coach, ďit just didnít work out here.Ē That is so cliche and homeristic...especially if you somehow believe that AND have the opinion it is possible to compete for championships here.
I donít think heís a good coach at all. Good talker yes.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2018, 03:43:19 pm »

Frankly I could care less about where (former) Coach BB lands. I do not wish him ill; however, after the past five years I just wish him gone.....which we finally got thankfully.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2018, 04:58:08 pm »

Anyone who thinks Bielema is an awesome or even good coach has to have an absolute piss poor view of Arkansas or the ability for ANYONE to coach here. In other words, this coaching job is an impossibility since a coach of Bielemas (supposed) caliber couldnít get it done. Thatís the only excuse in his corner. Seems legit to me. /s

Unfortunately for us, Bielema did paint this as a reality of our program at least by outside perception. Instead of being a middle of the road team that competes for the conference on occasion...we are now a cellar dweller that competes for middle of the road on occasion. It will be up to Chad Morris to change that perception.

What an awful 5 year stretch...I just canít buy it that Bielema really is a great coach, ďit just didnít work out here.Ē That is so cliche and homeristic...especially if you somehow believe that AND have the opinion it is possible to compete for championships here.

Ring a ding ding.....
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2018, 05:02:17 pm »

....but why could he not keep a quality staff together? It hard to be an CEO style head coach if you don't have assistants under you to manage.

Without getting the players in top condition, it wouldn't have mattered who was on the staff IMO.
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« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2018, 05:07:31 pm »

Without getting the players in top condition, it wouldn't have mattered who was on the staff IMO.

I agree....conditioning is a big part of it, hard to win when you can't finish.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2018, 09:20:24 pm »

Anyone who thinks Bielema is an awesome or even good coach has to have an absolute piss poor view of Arkansas or the ability for ANYONE to coach here. In other words, this coaching job is an impossibility since a coach of Bielemas (supposed) caliber couldnít get it done. Thatís the only excuse in his corner. Seems legit to me. /s

Unfortunately for us, Bielema did paint this as a reality of our program at least by outside perception. Instead of being a middle of the road team that competes for the conference on occasion...we are now a cellar dweller that competes for middle of the road on occasion. It will be up to Chad Morris to change that perception.

What an awful 5 year stretch...I just canít buy it that Bielema really is a great coach, ďit just didnít work out here.Ē That is so cliche and homeristic...especially if you somehow believe that AND have the opinion it is possible to compete for championships here.
Amen, anyone that thinks he is a head coach, just review the last five years. Worst coach we have ever had and that includes smiley.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #119 on: March 14, 2018, 04:07:29 pm »

Anyone who thinks Bielema is an awesome or even good coach has to have an absolute piss poor view of Arkansas or the ability for ANYONE to coach here.

Just because it didn't work doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad coach, or that Arkansas is a bad job.  Sometimes it's just a bad match, plain and simple.  It's like a bad marriage.  Doesn't always mean that there is something wrong with him or her, just a bad match.  Move on and find a better match.

And I'm not saying that to say that Beliema is a good coach, just showing how your either/or mindset on this is wrong.

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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #120 on: March 21, 2018, 03:05:20 pm »

Bielema was also at Sam Darnold's pro day today.  Looked rested and a little trimmer.  Amazing what a few months off with money will do.
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« Reply #121 on: March 21, 2018, 04:39:07 pm »

Anyone who thinks Bielema is an awesome or even good coach has to have an absolute piss poor view of Arkansas or the ability for ANYONE to coach here. In other words, this coaching job is an impossibility since a coach of Bielemas (supposed) caliber couldnít get it done. Thatís the only excuse in his corner. Seems legit to me. /s

Unfortunately for us, Bielema did paint this as a reality of our program at least by outside perception. Instead of being a middle of the road team that competes for the conference on occasion...we are now a cellar dweller that competes for middle of the road on occasion. It will be up to Chad Morris to change that perception.

What an awful 5 year stretch...I just canít buy it that Bielema really is a great coach, ďit just didnít work out here.Ē That is so cliche and homeristic...especially if you somehow believe that AND have the opinion it is possible to compete for championships here.

The only conclusion you can draw is that Brett Bielema was a bad coach for Arkansas.  I don't think anyone can go so far as to say he's a great coach, but he's not devoid of football knowledge and a complete idiot as a lot of people on here would like you to believe.  He wasn't good at the job he was hired for at Arkansas. I think that it is possible to be extremely competitive and yes even potentially compete for championships here, I also think that Bielema is not a moron who knows nothing about the game of football. Those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive. If I hired Stephen Hawking to cut my grass when he was alive I can pretty much tell you he would have been terrible at it.  That doesn't make him an idiot or mean that he has nothing to contribute, just that he was bad at the job I hired him for.  I think the same about Bielema.  He may not be a good head coach, or maybe just not a good SEC head coach, he definitely wasn't a good head coach at Arkansas, but i think the man knows a lot about the game
           
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #122 on: March 21, 2018, 04:57:39 pm »

Belichick has said that he likes Bielema. Maybe this is his next opportunity. Hope he gets it and learns some stuff then gets back in the game. I’m glad he’s gone, but I hope he lands in his feet again.

$11 million, or whatever he got, is a pretty soft landing.
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« Reply #123 on: March 21, 2018, 05:05:49 pm »

A man can have a great job but if he doesnít bring home the bacon heís not a good provider.  That was CBB, a lot of fans evidently donít like bacon!
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #124 on: March 21, 2018, 06:12:44 pm »

So this is how the Patriot dynasty ends....
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« Reply #125 on: March 21, 2018, 06:18:53 pm »

$11 million, or whatever he got, is a pretty soft landing.

Iíd be willing to wager if you asked him if heíd rather have $4 million or $11 million and nationwide humiliation, heíd go with the former.
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« Reply #126 on: March 21, 2018, 07:15:37 pm »

Iíd be willing to wager if you asked him if heíd rather have $4 million or $11 million and nationwide humiliation, heíd go with the former.

Tito disagrees
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #127 on: March 22, 2018, 06:36:29 pm »

Some of you guys need to start charging Bret rent as he is living rent free in your heads. ;D
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« Reply #128 on: March 22, 2018, 06:44:16 pm »

Some of you guys need to start charging Bret rent as he is living rent free in your heads. ;D

Whatís the difference between Bret and Lou or Ken or, wait skip those guys, Danny or Hootie or Bob or, wait skip that guy?

Right! Actually quite a bit, Ole Bret set a bunch of historical records some of you are mighty proud of.  How much was it those records cost us, right at 50 million for Bret and his boss.

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« Reply #129 on: March 22, 2018, 07:12:09 pm »

I'm not going to publicly disrespect Bret Bielema.  That would serve no useful purpose whatsoever.  He obviously was regressing the program rather than progressing it, and a change at the helm had to be made.  He's gone now; - - and I wish him well anywhere else.
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« Reply #130 on: March 22, 2018, 11:09:46 pm »

The only conclusion you can draw is that Brett Bielema was a bad coach for Arkansas.  I don't think anyone can go so far as to say he's a great coach, but he's not devoid of football knowledge and a complete idiot as a lot of people on here would like you to believe.  He wasn't good at the job he was hired for at Arkansas. I think that it is possible to be extremely competitive and yes even potentially compete for championships here, I also think that Bielema is not a moron who knows nothing about the game of football. Those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive. If I hired Stephen Hawking to cut my grass when he was alive I can pretty much tell you he would have been terrible at it.  That doesn't make him an idiot or mean that he has nothing to contribute, just that he was bad at the job I hired him for.  I think the same about Bielema.  He may not be a good head coach, or maybe just not a good SEC head coach, he definitely wasn't a good head coach at Arkansas, but i think the man knows a lot about the game
           
Stephen Hawking cutting your grass does not seem to me to be equivalent to Bret Bielema coaching Arkansas football. Now if Stephen Hawking were to have wrote an essay on a book he supposedly knew frontwards and back...and failed miserably, that would be a closer ironic hypothetical comparison to the Bielema days of Arkansas football.

We are fresh off a 4 win season...two or three points away from a 2 win season. The only excuse for Bielema would be ďbecause Arkansas.Ē I would bet every last penny I have thatís his sales pitch to the Patriots or whoever. I donít buy it. Ya...this isnít a plush job like Georgia or Alabama...but itís been proven we can compete much better than shown of late. And I donít think thatís simply circumstantial. Jeff Long held the tail of the donkey and Bielema did you know what.
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Re: Bielema at combine w Patriots
« Reply #131 on: March 23, 2018, 12:02:33 am »

Amen, anyone that thinks he is a head coach, just review the last five years. Worst coach we have ever had and that includes smiley.
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« Reply #132 on: March 23, 2018, 12:58:34 am »

Whatís the difference between Bret and Lou or Ken or, wait skip those guys, Danny or Hootie or Bob or, wait skip that guy?

Right! Actually quite a bit, Ole Bret set a bunch of historical records some of you are mighty proud of.  How much was it those records cost us, right at 50 million for Bret and his boss.

I've moved on dude. Join me,won't you?
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« Reply #133 on: March 23, 2018, 10:32:16 pm »

I've moved on dude. Join me,won't you?

Nobody moves on, weíll be talking about Ole Bret 50 yeas from now.  And youíll read the threads and tell everyone to move on.  LOL!
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« Reply #134 on: March 24, 2018, 06:47:55 pm »

Nobody moves on, weíll be talking about Ole Bret 50 yeas from now.  And youíll read the threads and tell everyone to move on.  LOL!
Iíll move on but Iíll never forget. The way our media and a portion of this fan base puts terrible coaches and administrators above the program itself ďbecause they are nice guysĒ and all the other fluff stuff that doesnít mean diddly when it comes to competing in the SEC is something that will never cease to amaze me.

There are a lot of hurt feelings over who was wrong and who was right during this entire ordeal. Those who were wrong want it to just kind of quietly go away lol. I probably would too.
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« Reply #135 on: March 25, 2018, 08:53:35 am »

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« Reply #136 on: March 25, 2018, 10:34:02 am »


Iíll move on but Iíll never forget.

Those who were wrong want it to just kind of quietly go away lol. I probably would too.
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