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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2018, 03:34:36 pm »

Y'all realize Dontell Jefferson made the league, right?
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2018, 03:48:37 pm »

i guarantee Barford plays more than 10 games in the NBA, thatís how many Fortson played. We will see

He may very well. I hope he does. But he would be lucky to do so. Thatís a general statement on the odds of being a successful pro basketball player and less about Barfordís prospects at doing so.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2018, 05:22:52 pm »

I wonder how Cott Clarkeís NBA dreams are going.  He was on the Celtics for a few days.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2018, 06:14:19 pm »

I wonder how Cott Clarkeís NBA dreams are going.  He was on the Celtics for a few days.
He hasn't played in the NBA since 2015-16's cup of coffee.  He was last seen playing in Russia for BC Avtodor Saratov in the VTB United League,  after a very brief stint in Puerto Rico, and after playing for BC Unics of the VTB last year.

He's currently Saratov's leading scorer and rebounder, and is a starter, but doesn't seem to be making any headway on a US pro career, despite playing at the top level of Russian basketball.

Here's an article about his signing:

http://avtodor.ru/en/index.php/news-events/item/521-avtodor-signed-coty-clarke
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2018, 09:05:01 pm »

He hasn't played in the NBA since 2015-16's cup of coffee.  He was last seen playing in Russia for BC Avtodor Saratov in the VTB United League,  after a very brief stint in Puerto Rico, and after playing for BC Unics of the VTB last year.

He's currently Saratov's leading scorer and rebounder, and is a starter, but doesn't seem to be making any headway on a US pro career, despite playing at the top level of Russian basketball.

Here's an article about his signing:

http://avtodor.ru/en/index.php/news-events/item/521-avtodor-signed-coty-clarke

Thanks for all the info.  Making it into the NBA is hard, lol.  Sounds like Coty is doing really good though.  He was also really good in the D-league. Shooting threes in the 45% range wherever he goes.


 Iíll always remember Coty for this at 8:43.  A tough steal against Missouri to ice the game.

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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2018, 11:36:09 pm »

I didn't realize JB was named the MVP of the field of 64 players at the PIT. That's a pretty distinct honor. Proud of both him and Macon and I hope they are able to make a living doing what they love. Good kids and I'll always remember what they did wearing that razorback uniform.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2018, 08:17:40 pm »

Very few very good college players make it to the NBA and I don't think either are good as Lee Mayberry and he was drafted #23, not far from the bottom of the first round, and second round draftees don't have much chance.  Of course Mayberry had a very good NBA career, but that is the talent you need to play in the NBA.  Still, maybe they could play a few minutes when the starting guards come out for a rest.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2018, 12:39:31 pm »

They're both borderline NBA players.
Very nice SEC players for the Hogs.

It will depend on the situation of each club.

It's a tough ask. The NBA is the elite of the elite. Guys like Scotty Thurman couldn't make it.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2018, 08:50:38 pm »

They're both borderline NBA players.
Very nice SEC players for the Hogs.

It will depend on the situation of each club.

It's a tough ask. The NBA is the elite of the elite. Guys like Scotty Thurman couldn't make it.
I used to think that but the 10+ side of the bench is honestly not that great.  Take the Cedi Osman kid from Cleveland.  Besides being 6'8, there really isn't anything special there.  The NBA is full of player like Macon and Barford on the end of the bench. I still think Macon has a better shot because he can get assists AND shoot.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2018, 02:43:28 am »

NBA or not is a hard thing to predict cuz it's a dif world
My guess is if they do not for long ...I base this on what I saw in them, against players better than them
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« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2018, 04:42:17 pm »

Barford is going to the combine. Thatís pretty big time considering itís the top 60 prospectavgiver or take a couple not participating.
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« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2018, 06:30:43 pm »

Barford is going to the combine. Thatís pretty big time considering itís the top 60 prospectavgiver or take a couple not participating.
Yep Barford thrives in the no defense NBA because he can finish through contact with ease
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« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2018, 08:21:22 pm »

Yep Barford thrives in the no defense NBA because he can finish through contact with ease

Really showing your lack of knowledge of the league. Those hundreds of players from college that people like you think will be NBA stars don't make the league because they can't defend.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2018, 09:25:14 pm »

I wonder how Cott Clarkeís NBA dreams are going.  He was on the Celtics for a few days.
It's crazy to me that he's isn't good enough for the nba. i just don't get that.
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« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2018, 09:30:38 pm »

Really showing your lack of knowledge of the league. Those hundreds of players from college that people like you think will be NBA stars don't make the league because they can't defend.
so Barford hasnít been to the combine yet and he already canít play D?
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2018, 03:00:54 am »

overseas ball loves guards who can score.  Here in the Philippines players come and go and you have to be a team guy BUT you have to outscore the other teams import player so you will see the matched up on each other a lot .
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« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2018, 02:24:32 pm »

Barford can thrive in the NBA. Isolation specialist who hits tough shots consistently, whether that be off pull-ups, fadeaways, getting to the rim. Heís a threat from 25 ft and is at his best in transition. Heís got enough gearth not to be bullied by NBA guards, and has very good lateral quickness. Donít be surprised to see him get in the NBA and kill it at first chance. Heís a baller. Knew he was a pro from Day 1.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #67 on: April 29, 2018, 03:45:22 pm »

Yep Barford thrives in the no defense NBA because he can finish through contact with ease
No defense NBA lol.  Jimmer was averaging 40 in the tournament but couldn't score in the NBA.  NBA is so much better than college its insane
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2018, 03:46:29 pm »

Really showing your lack of knowledge of the league. Those hundreds of players from college that people like you think will be NBA stars don't make the league because they can't defend.
Yep for sure total lack of knowledge on his part.  He has no clue how dumb he sounds to people who really know and watch basketball.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #69 on: April 29, 2018, 06:04:35 pm »

Barford can thrive in the NBA. Isolation specialist who hits tough shots consistently, whether that be off pull-ups, fadeaways, getting to the rim. Heís a threat from 25 ft and is at his best in transition. Heís got enough gearth not to be bullied by NBA guards, and has very good lateral quickness. Donít be surprised to see him get in the NBA and kill it at first chance. Heís a baller. Knew he was a pro from Day 1.

Iso specialists don't have a place in the modern NBA;  its why Joe's career declined so precipitously.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2018, 06:44:30 pm »

Iso specialists don't have a place in the modern NBA;  its why Joe's career declined so precipitously.
Not as much but there is always a place for an ISO player.  Sometimes you just need a guy to go get his own buckets.  Lebron, Kyrie, Paul George, Westbrook, Harden, Chris Paul, Kemba Walker, Lillard, Wall, etc.. are good ISO players.  Also Joe Johnson is about to be 37 years old.  He can play in any NBA when in prime.  Not debatable!
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« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2018, 11:21:23 pm »

Not as much but there is always a place for an ISO player.  Sometimes you just need a guy to go get his own buckets.  Lebron, Kyrie, Paul George, Westbrook, Harden, Chris Paul, Kemba Walker, Lillard, Wall, etc.. are good ISO players.  Also Joe Johnson is about to be 37 years old.  He can play in any NBA when in prime.  Not debatable!

Exactly. Still have to be able to create your own shot which Barford showed he was really good at this year as well as Portsmouth. He can play off the ball or on it. Thatís what Iím hearing the teams that are interviewing him are saying anyways. He showed the ability to pull up in transition from three, which is helping him big time. We saw it all year.
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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #72 on: April 30, 2018, 11:12:21 am »

Yep Barford thrives in the no defense NBA because he can finish through contact with ease

Ha. The NBA has no defense? OK.

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Re: Barford, Macon, and the NBA
« Reply #73 on: April 30, 2018, 11:41:16 am »

Exactly. Still have to be able to create your own shot which Barford showed he was really good at this year as well as Portsmouth. He can play off the ball or on it. Thatís what Iím hearing the teams that are interviewing him are saying anyways. He showed the ability to pull up in transition from three, which is helping him big time. We saw it all year.

There's a difference between shot creation and ISO play.  People mistake one for the other, and the current NBA for the unwatchable late 90s drek.
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« Reply #74 on: April 30, 2018, 01:40:24 pm »

so Barford hasnít been to the combine yet and he already canít play D?

He's talking about your comment about there being no defense in the NBA.
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« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2018, 02:37:43 pm »

There's a difference between shot creation and ISO play.  People mistake one for the other, and the current NBA for the unwatchable late 90s drek.

Dually noted.
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