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twistitup

Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« on: February 11, 2018, 08:44:48 am »

Committed vs Involved

There is a big difference between the two...

No rumors of off the job shenanigans

No You Tube dreams taking away from the task at hand

No Flip Flop and Shorts...instead it's business

No trips to FL for fun but labeled as 'recruiting'....instead it's business

No loud mouth promises - instead Morris is results driven

Less Bluster - More Bust Arse

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2018, 10:15:39 am »

Bielema was the Chicken and Morris is the Pig!!!!
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twistitup

Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2018, 10:18:02 am »

Bielema was the Chicken and Morris is the Pig!!!!

you got it
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2018, 10:23:00 am »

It's day 63??, they still have time to disappoint us, lol.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2018, 10:44:41 am »

It's day 63??, they still have time to disappoint us, lol.

Sure they do...now let's give him the support and fan energy we gave these two characters:





......and hopefully no more quotes like this:

Bielema says he didn't wear a windbreaker for the first time as a HC b/c he wanted to change things up. Sat on other side of the bus, too.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/bret-bielema-said-arkansas-win-famu/
« Last Edit: February 11, 2018, 10:55:12 am by twistitup »
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2018, 12:08:06 pm »

Let’s revisit this in 5 years. You’ll either be right or have a list of things about CCM vs the next guy.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2018, 12:32:54 pm »

Let’s revisit this in 5 years. You’ll either be right or have a list of things about CCM vs the next guy.

I doubt we post a pic of CMM and say "he was terrible, now let's go back to the hard drinking blowhard... THAT was the right fit. " I can confidently say that won't happen. Sure there will be ups and downs - I expect that.

I look forward to seeing what's going to happen the next 5 years and to seeing if he can keep a staff together - that is what has killed us with CBB - nobody wanted to work for the guy
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2018, 12:57:08 pm »

Now this thread Im with you on.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2018, 12:58:35 pm »

From everything I've heard from folks supposedly "in the know" CBB was one of the nicest, friendliest guys you've ever want to meet. Obviously he had a kinda of "lousy-goosey" attitude around the complex. And while there's nothing necessarily wrong with whatever style or personality a coach wants to assume, whatever that would be had better produce results. We all know the answer to that question.

As long as Bret was our HC I was going to try to do everything I could as a long time fan to support the team, staff and him. I felt I owe(d) that much to them. However, as last year wore on and I saw the lack of results, and more importantly effort, I just felt it was more than time for a change. As time went by, even prior to last year, I developed a feeling that things were not right with the relationship that Bret had with many of his staff (after watching many leave for other jobs), and what I felt was a disconnect between him and the overall program. Not sure if he was truly "all in" when it came to his job and his drive to succeed.

While only time will tell, I have a distinctly different feeling with CCM and this staff. Perhaps it's the natural "newness" of the job and it's potential, however, something feels very much different in a positive way. Feels as if Chad understands the uniqueness of the state's flagship football program and the incredible passion that Hog fans everywhere share. Ultimately it starts and ends with relationships on many levels. That's also accompanied by the clear vision and blueprint of how to strive for excellence and success. At this point I honestly feel we've seen hopeful signs along these lines. The future will hopefully see a much brighter day for all Razorback fans. Lord, if anyone deserves it I would think it would be us.  8)
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2018, 01:01:31 pm »

Now this thread Im with you on.

I'm not being negative in the other thread - just realistic. CCM is a player developer - don't worry so much about stars.

I'm excited about the future...
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2018, 01:13:56 pm »

One thing CBB did that wasn't very smart was to make the program sound better than it actually was. He did this often through the media via interviews, on twitter, and by other means. This really pumps up the fan base, and if you don't live up to those expectations that fan base gets pretty angry.

I've seen a few interviews of Morris and he's not blowing smoke up your rear. He's very positive about the future, but he doesn't sit there and promise the fan anything.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2018, 01:18:24 pm »

I'm not being negative in the other thread - just realistic. CCM is a player developer - don't worry so much about stars.

I'm excited about the future...

The concession threads are funny, but +1 on this one.

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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2018, 01:18:45 pm »

All a coach can promise is to work hard to recruit and develop a system that puts in you in a position to compete for championships.  You have to make it to the big game first.  Nutt did this in 98 and 06, Petrino in 2010 and 2011. It can be done.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2018, 01:28:57 pm »

I'm not being negative in the other thread - just realistic. CCM is a player developer - don't worry so much about stars.

I'm excited about the future...
i didnt think you were. it's more for the audience , my arguments.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2018, 03:45:15 pm »

Side question.

Does Bielema still live In Fayetteville? Is he going to remain there for awhile?
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2018, 03:54:37 pm »

...I've seen a few interviews of Morris and he's not blowing smoke up your rear. He's very positive about the future, but he doesn't sit there and promise the fan anything.

"Best DC in college football is coming?"  :puke:

Sigh...
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2018, 04:01:52 pm »

"Best DC in college football is coming?"  :puke:

Sigh...

I would say Chavis is without a doubt the #2 active DC in college football.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2018, 04:22:59 pm »

"Best DC in college football is coming?"  :puke:

Sigh...
Well we don't really know what discussions and with whom CMM had concerning the position. Could very well have been Venables and others (which I wouldn't doubt). All we know is that at this point the Chief is a HUGE upgrade. Count the staff as a major improvement.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2018, 04:27:51 pm »

"Best DC in college football is coming?"  :puke:

Sigh...

Top 3-5....no doubt.

While your boy Bert couldn't keep a coach on staff

What happened again to Pitt / Chan?
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2018, 04:28:44 pm »

Side question.

Does Bielema still live In Fayetteville? Is he going to remain there for awhile?

Sold his house and is currently renting is what I was told....he's still around, saw him getting coffee on east side of Fville

Waiting but ready to go...
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2018, 04:30:26 pm »

Sold his house and is currently renting is what I was told....he's still around, saw him getting coffee on east side of Fville

Waiting but ready to go...
Just curious. I suppose he will have a tv gig this fall?
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2018, 04:31:41 pm »

Committed vs Involved

There is a big difference between the two...

No rumors of off the job shenanigans

No You Tube dreams taking away from the task at hand

No Flip Flop and Shorts...instead it's business

No trips to FL for fun but labeled as 'recruiting'....instead it's business

No loud mouth promises - instead Morris is results driven

Less Bluster - More Bust Arse

+1
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2018, 04:35:53 pm »

Just curious. I suppose he will have a tv gig this fall?

Will be interesting. After what happened here...tv might be his best bet. I think it would have been interesting if Bo would have kept the Youtube show going after he was fired. The guy is still living his life - it may have been more interesting to see what he was up to after he got fired. Like following him to interviews, the bar, to get groceries while dealing with ex-fans in the grocery store, etc...
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2018, 05:01:15 pm »

Committed vs Involved

There is a big difference between the two...

No rumors of off the job shenanigans

No You Tube dreams taking away from the task at hand

No Flip Flop and Shorts...instead it's business

No trips to FL for fun but labeled as 'recruiting'....instead it's business

No loud mouth promises - instead Morris is results driven

Less Bluster - More Bust Arse

CBB said he would give us what we have never had - SEC championship.

CCM says he will bring us championships.

Both had / have high goals. Do expect a new coach to say “Well, I’m probably going to be just a little better than the last guy.”

That’s a bit too long for a recruiting slogan.  ;)
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2018, 05:08:51 pm »

After his recounting of the 16-0 win over LSU that Coach Bezdek was to have said that the team played:
"like a wild band of Razorback hogs."  This is what I am hoping to get from Morris and his staff.
We may not be the most talented but we go Hog wild every game.
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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2018, 06:02:29 pm »

Top 3-5....no doubt.

While your boy Bert couldn't keep a coach on staff

What happened again to Pitt / Chan?
Theresa is still pining for motho.
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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2018, 06:28:15 pm »

Will be interesting. After what happened here...tv might be his best bet. I think it would have been interesting if Bo would have kept the Youtube show going after he was fired. The guy is still living his life - it may have been more interesting to see what he was up to after he got fired. Like following him to interviews, the bar, to get groceries while dealing with ex-fans in the grocery store, etc...
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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2018, 07:07:40 pm »

CBB said he would give us what we have never had - SEC championship.


He said a helluva lot more than that. CBB quotes - that would be a GREAT thread. Just digging up quotes starting at day 1 - wow, epic.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2018, 07:13:05 pm »

Sold his house and is currently renting is what I was told....he's still around, saw him getting coffee on east side of Fville

Waiting but ready to go...
Doubt he will move until he lands another job somewhere.  I suspect Jeff Long is still in town too.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2018, 07:17:04 pm »

He said a helluva lot more than that. CBB quotes - that would be a GREAT thread. Just digging up quotes starting at day 1 - wow, epic.
“I’m happy he got to vent, and hopefully he feels a lot better. As a coach who has been in it for 10 years, I know better than to worry about somebody that’s been around for a couple and they’re .500. So we’ll just go forward.
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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2018, 07:17:58 pm »

I suspect Jeff Long is still in town too.

CBB probably sleeps on his couch when J locks him out.

Dammit Tito
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2018, 07:25:47 pm »

Guys...he's gone.

I understand malice towards Nutt. He went out of his way to screw us over.

I understand malice towards Bobby. He betrayed us for cheap sex.

But Bret is only guilty of failure.
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2018, 07:32:45 pm »


But Bret is only guilty of failure.

He may have failed at coaching but not life. His bank account is huge and the dude can write a powerful letter...he'll be ok. There is lots of power in the written word...ask Jeff
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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2018, 07:37:49 pm »

No Flip Flop and Shorts...instead it's business

I don't agree with you often but this is a key point.

I tried to buy the line about "recruits love his laid back attitude" but it was hard seeing our million dollar coach always wearing flip flops and shorts when recruits visited.
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2018, 09:04:00 pm »

From everything I've heard from folks supposedly "in the know" CBB was one of the nicest, friendliest guys you've ever want to meet. Obviously he had a kinda of "lousy-goosey" attitude around the complex. And while there's nothing necessarily wrong with whatever style or personality a coach wants to assume, whatever that would be had better produce results. We all know the answer to that question.

As long as Bret was our HC I was going to try to do everything I could as a long time fan to support the team, staff and him. I felt I owe(d) that much to them. However, as last year wore on and I saw the lack of results, and more importantly effort, I just felt it was more than time for a change. As time went by, even prior to last year, I developed a feeling that things were not right with the relationship that Bret had with many of his staff (after watching many leave for other jobs), and what I felt was a disconnect between him and the overall program. Not sure if he was truly "all in" when it came to his job and his drive to succeed.

While only time will tell, I have a distinctly different feeling with CCM and this staff. Perhaps it's the natural "newness" of the job and it's potential, however, something feels very much different in a positive way. Feels as if Chad understands the uniqueness of the state's flagship football program and the incredible passion that Hog fans everywhere share. Ultimately it starts and ends with relationships on many levels. That's also accompanied by the clear vision and blueprint of how to strive for excellence and success. At this point I honestly feel we've seen hopeful signs along these lines. The future will hopefully see a much brighter day for all Razorback fans. Lord, if anyone deserves it I would think it would be us.  8)
i agree with this and felt about the same way with things.  I had heard before the season started that Bielema was in bad shape health wise. I had heard he had even thought about stepping away at rnd og last season due to health reasons. I mean anyone that looked at him could tell. Does anyone remember the game this season where he disnt walk across the field. He like took a knee and couldnt get up or something. Never heard much about it.   Anyways, hes gone. If he had just hired a good OL coach/recruiter, hed probably still be coach tho.  But, Anderson figured hed become drinking buddies with bielema and lock himself in deep. Oh well good riddance. They are gone


Bielema signed a total of 11 defensive players with a 247sports composite rating of 8700 or higher in 5years. Morris has signed 6 of them in only 2 months! That just shows you how pathetic Bielema was!

Morris is just completely opposite of bielema. He is high energy. Bielema was a slug. He played rasta put you to sleep music on loudspeakers.  I dont see morris doing that, if he did itd probably be something like techno dance "sandstorm" haha  I doubt we'll ever hear Morris make some loudmouth remarks either. He'll speak with his actions!  Anyways, long story short. I like the new staff energy. They are gonna make things happen. Watch and see!
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2018, 08:30:31 am »

Sure they do...now let's give him the support and fan energy we gave these two characters:





......and hopefully no more quotes like this:

Bielema says he didn't wear a windbreaker for the first time as a HC b/c he wanted to change things up. Sat on other side of the bus, too.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/bret-bielema-said-arkansas-win-famu/
CCM looks great in his suits
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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2018, 08:35:42 am »

CCM looks great in his suits

I'm a big believer in lead by example
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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2018, 08:41:15 am »

Will be interesting. After what happened here...tv might be his best bet. I think it would have been interesting if Bo would have kept the Youtube show going after he was fired. The guy is still living his life - it may have been more interesting to see what he was up to after he got fired. Like following him to interviews, the bar, to get groceries while dealing with ex-fans in the grocery store, etc...
Yes, when do we see the epilogue?
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2018, 09:33:33 am »

Guys...he's gone.

I understand malice towards Nutt. He went out of his way to screw us over.

I understand malice towards Bobby. He betrayed us for cheap sex.

But Bret is only guilty of failure.
Did you see that small recruiting class we signed last week. That's the after effects of Bielema beginning to show themselves. He may be gone, but his impact will still be felt for quite some time
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2018, 09:35:22 am »

Did you see that small recruiting class we signed last week. That's the after effects of Bielema beginning to show themselves. He may be gone, but his impact will still be felt for quite some time

So he should have been running off players who were in good academic shape, but weren't playing?
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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2018, 12:25:09 pm »

From everything I've heard from folks supposedly "in the know" CBB was one of the nicest, friendliest guys you've ever want to meet. Obviously he had a kinda of "lousy-goosey" attitude around the complex. And while there's nothing necessarily wrong with whatever style or personality a coach wants to assume, whatever that would be had better produce results. We all know the answer to that question.

As long as Bret was our HC I was going to try to do everything I could as a long time fan to support the team, staff and him. I felt I owe(d) that much to them. However, as last year wore on and I saw the lack of results, and more importantly effort, I just felt it was more than time for a change. As time went by, even prior to last year, I developed a feeling that things were not right with the relationship that Bret had with many of his staff (after watching many leave for other jobs), and what I felt was a disconnect between him and the overall program. Not sure if he was truly "all in" when it came to his job and his drive to succeed.

While only time will tell, I have a distinctly different feeling with CCM and this staff. Perhaps it's the natural "newness" of the job and it's potential, however, something feels very much different in a positive way. Feels as if Chad understands the uniqueness of the state's flagship football program and the incredible passion that Hog fans everywhere share. Ultimately it starts and ends with relationships on many levels. That's also accompanied by the clear vision and blueprint of how to strive for excellence and success. At this point I honestly feel we've seen hopeful signs along these lines. The future will hopefully see a much brighter day for all Razorback fans. Lord, if anyone deserves it I would think it would be us.  8)

Yes!!! There's some sort of collective understanding this new staff has for Arkansas the state, the people, the HS coaches, and the Razorbacks. I'm caught up in the tide of positive energy and I really believe CCM is changing things for the better and that bigger, faster and stronger players are going to start knocking on the door asking to come in.
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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2018, 12:45:32 pm »

So he should have been running off players who were in good academic shape, but weren't playing?

Yes, it's football. We need players Rice, players.  If we have really smart guys on the roster that aren't good football players...I have a great idea:

We 'find' them an academic scholarship to continue their education.
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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2018, 12:49:15 pm »

Yes, it's football. We need players Rice, players.  If we have really smart guys on the roster that aren't good football players...I have a great idea:

We 'find' them an academic scholarship to continue their education.

What if they want to play football? You thought they were good football players when you offered them a 4 year scholarship, didn't you?
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« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2018, 12:56:48 pm »

What if they want to play football? You thought they were good football players when you offered them a 4 year scholarship, didn't you?

It should be a one year scholarship - renewed each year depending on improvement / playing time / etc...

...but if it's a 4 year ride, hook'em up with in intramural squad - kind of the reverse of what Nutt did.

Put their name and picture on the newly created Wall of Effort.... this wall will fill the gap on the N. Side of the stadium. These days a major apology is necessary too. So....we say 'we apologzie' CBB evaluated you incorrectly, but you are one smart lil devil and we will cover your classes til you graduate as long as you keep a 3.0 or above
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2018, 01:02:19 pm »

BB was involved. When he took the job he went out and in short order put together a good class his 1st year ( Kirkland, Skipper, AC just to name a few )
Did you see that small recruiting class we signed last week. That's the after effects of Bielema beginning to show themselves. He may be gone, but his impact will still be felt for quite some time

Umm, he did red shirt 13 players last year, you only have 25 scholarships every year if you have a lot of attrition. They only had 17 or 18 available because very few players BB signed left early.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2018, 01:22:25 pm »

Guys...he's gone.

I understand malice towards Nutt. He went out of his way to screw us over.

I understand malice towards Bobby. He betrayed us for cheap sex.

But Bret is only guilty of failure.

EPIC FAILURE
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2018, 02:15:42 pm »

Remember that Bret told his veterans last season before fall practice that he would not Red Shirt any freshman who He believed could help the team this past season.  I felt that was a warning to all that if you could play, you would play.  I also didn't see that as necessary.  I always believed you should play the players, ON THE TEAM, that were best suited to go win games.  To have the HC offer that up as something new and different surprised me.

It seems strange to me that Bret would sell his house and then rent back in the same location.  Hell you can rent anywhere, anytime.  Instead of standing in the crater of the exploded bomb, why not move on. 

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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2018, 03:10:09 pm »

EPIC FAILURE

Are you afraid we might forget?
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2018, 03:58:43 pm »

He said a helluva lot more than that. CBB quotes - that would be a GREAT thread. Just digging up quotes starting at day 1 - wow, epic.

Let's see - one was here five years and the other not even five months. Of course, you have more quotes. But you cast a red herring to hide the fact your OP failed. Coaches say crap to get the fan base excited.

He is gone now so enjoy watching CCM rebuild. I know I am.
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Re: Bielema & Co were involved....Morris & Co are committed
« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2018, 04:01:11 pm »

He may have failed at coaching but not life. His bank account is huge and the dude can write a powerful letter...he'll be ok. There is lots of power in the written word...ask Jeff

So your real issue is jealousy of his money. Interesting.
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