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Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« on: January 15, 2018, 06:08:12 pm »

Arkansas managed to tough their way to a win that stopped the bleeding.  Relative to competition, it was our second-best defensive performance of the season.  The Hogs held Mizzou, a top-20 offense, to a dollop below 1.0 points per possession. Mizzou had scored 1.17 ppp against USCe and 1.08 ppp against UGA, two top-20 defenses.  At the PK80 Arkansas had also held the formidable Sooner scoring machine to under 1 ppp.  Can't complain about the D in this one.

CMA and staff came up with a good gameplan.  Mizzou's one weakness on O is that they turn the ball over too often.  Trapping their ballhandlers with gusto was the way to go.  We got results with the traps in the form of TOs but still outrebounded Mizzou and limited them to 10 deuces on a pedestrian 47% conversion rate.  The Tigers kept it close by decisively winning the arc 33 to 15.  Like Auburn they burned us for 11 treys, but it took them 29 attempts.  Mizzou was limited at the line in our gym, which helped.  The defense was good enough to coast to a win with a more efficient offensive output on our part.

On O the Hogs looked like a race engine that would turn over for an extended time and then cough and wheeze to a stall.  The game was played at Mizzou's pace in the low 60 possessions despite the effectiveness of our pressure.  The Hogs got back to converting inside with 18 deuces on 51%, not up to our previous standards but a significant rebound from the misery against LSU.  Only 5 treys and the poor FT shooting kept Mizzou in contact and the Hogs in mortal danger.

It was the type of win that you need to get back on the upswing.  It was hardly a perfect performance, but it pointed to a possible path for this team coming together.  On O Macon got back to distributing with gusto.  The main beneficiary was Gafford, who announced his presence with authority at both ends after disappearing at times in the losses.  The book on defending Arkansas got a little less relevant with Gafford's teammates finding him in the lane.  The three players who led us in FGAs all converted at 55% (eFG%), and Macon wasn't included, which means that we were hardly operating at full capacity.  Hall is transforming the defense with his unique ability to defend on the perimeter and board, and on O he has eliminated the negative plays that were keeping him on the bench.  His decision-making has been excellent of late.  Thompson is playing his best ball of the season as well.

Against Mizzou we didn't get much on offense from the PFs and Jones.  Those were the missing pieces, in addition to Macon not scoring at a good pace.  Our PFs aren't going to carry us in scoring, and we shouldn't need them to.  However, we need a solid double figures from the three combined as pressure releases by some combination of jumpers, putbacks, FTs, cuts, and breaks.  The other problem is treys.  It's difficult to win in today's game with just 4 or 5 treys.  The ball movement improved against Mizzou, especially with better interior passing, but we need to add some kick outs from the lane to the perimeter. Those are the best looks from the arc.  At times the lane seems to be a black hole for the Hogs.  Once the ball enters the paint, it ain't coming back out.  That's true of the entire team, not just the forwards.

The most encouraging part of the defense was the energy.  The Hogs displayed some want to.  What worked against Mizzou probably won't in Gainesville.  The Gators don't turn the ball over.  However, Arkansas was not helpless on D against a good offensive schedule in nonconference.  We only surrendered 1.04+ ppp twice before SEC play, good enough to be a top-50 defense.  Before Saturday the Razorbacks hadn't held any SEC opponent under 1.10 ppp.  This hadn't been the same team on D.  Likewise, the performance on O against Mizzou was still one of our worst of the season statistically, SEC included.  The folks who believe this team can't play much better are sadly mistaken, and hopefully the team will prove it in the weeks ahead.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2018, 06:21:09 pm »

Good read!  I agree with your statement that we haven't seen the best this team can play.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2018, 06:36:25 pm »

Good read!  I agree with your statement that we haven't seen the best this team can play.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2018, 06:55:36 pm »

Arkansas managed to tough their way to a win that stopped the bleeding.  Relative to competition, it was our second-best defensive performance of the season.  The Hogs held Mizzou, a top-20 offense, to a dollop below 1.0 points per possession. Mizzou had scored 1.17 ppp against USCe and 1.08 ppp against UGA, two top-20 defenses.  At the PK80 Arkansas had also held the formidable Sooner scoring machine to under 1 ppp.  Can't complain about the D in this one.

CMA and staff came up with a good gameplan.  Mizzou's one weakness on O is that they turn the ball over too often.  Trapping their ballhandlers with gusto was the way to go.  We got results with the traps in the form of TOs but still outrebounded Mizzou and limited them to 10 deuces on a pedestrian 47% conversion rate.  The Tigers kept it close by decisively winning the arc 33 to 15.  Like Auburn they burned us for 11 treys, but it took them 29 attempts.  Mizzou was limited at the line in our gym, which helped.  The defense was good enough to coast to a win with a more efficient offensive output on our part.

On O the Hogs looked like a race engine that would turn over for an extended time and then cough and wheeze to a stall.  The game was played at Mizzou's pace in the low 60 possessions despite the effectiveness of our pressure.  The Hogs got back to converting inside with 18 deuces on 51%, not up to our previous standards but a significant rebound from the misery against LSU.  Only 5 treys and the poor FT shooting kept Mizzou in contact and the Hogs in mortal danger.

It was the type of win that you need to get back on the upswing.  It was hardly a perfect performance, but it pointed to a possible path for this team coming together.  On O Macon got back to distributing with gusto.  The main beneficiary was Gafford, who announced his presence with authority at both ends after disappearing at times in the losses.  The book on defending Arkansas got a little less relevant with Gafford's teammates finding him in the lane.  The three players who led us in FGAs all converted at 55% (eFG%), and Macon wasn't included, which means that we were hardly operating at full capacity.  Hall is transforming the defense with his unique ability to defend on the perimeter and board, and on O he has eliminated the negative plays that were keeping him on the bench.  His decision-making has been excellent of late.  Thompson is playing his best ball of the season as well.

Against Mizzou we didn't get much on offense from the PFs and Jones.  Those were the missing pieces, in addition to Macon not scoring at a good pace.  Our PFs aren't going to carry us in scoring, and we shouldn't need them to.  However, we need a solid double figures from the three combined as pressure releases by some combination of jumpers, putbacks, FTs, cuts, and breaks.  The other problem is treys.  It's difficult to win in today's game with just 4 or 5 treys.  The ball movement improved against Mizzou, especially with better interior passing, but we need to add some kick outs from the lane to the perimeter. Those are the best looks from the arc.  At times the lane seems to be a black hole for the Hogs.  Once the ball enters the paint, it ain't coming back out.  That's true of the entire team, not just the forwards.

The most encouraging part of the defense was the energy.  The Hogs displayed some want to.  What worked against Mizzou probably won't in Gainesville.  The Gators don't turn the ball over.  However, Arkansas was not helpless on D against a good offensive schedule in nonconference.  We only surrendered 1.04+ ppp twice before SEC play, good enough to be a top-50 defense.  Before Saturday the Razorbacks hadn't held any SEC opponent under 1.10 ppp.  This hadn't been the same team on D.  Likewise, the performance on O against Mizzou was still one of our worst of the season statistically, SEC included.  The folks who believe this team can't play much better are sadly mistaken, and hopefully the team will prove it in the weeks ahead.

CJ Jones is the missing link to everything. Those back breaking three pointers he made earlier were game changers. If he gets his rhythm back, we will be back to our dangerous team. We really need him. Oh and thank you for bringing facts. Emotional posters are the worst!
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2018, 07:28:36 pm »

There was no game plan for Missouri. We played the same as always on the defensive end. Missouri is missing a good PG. We will play the same way unfortunately against teams with great guards and give up almost 90
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 08:18:49 pm »

There was no game plan for Missouri. We played the same as always on the defensive end. Missouri is missing a good PG. We will play the same way unfortunately against teams with great guards and give up almost 90

Another example of a posters low basketball IQ. 
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 08:52:40 pm »

Arkansas managed to tough their way to a win that stopped the bleeding.  Relative to competition, it was our second-best defensive performance of the season.  The Hogs held Mizzou, a top-20 offense, to a dollop below 1.0 points per possession. Mizzou had scored 1.17 ppp against USCe and 1.08 ppp against UGA, two top-20 defenses.  At the PK80 Arkansas had also held the formidable Sooner scoring machine to under 1 ppp.  Can't complain about the D in this one.

CMA and staff came up with a good gameplan.  Mizzou's one weakness on O is that they turn the ball over too often.  Trapping their ballhandlers with gusto was the way to go.  We got results with the traps in the form of TOs but still outrebounded Mizzou and limited them to 10 deuces on a pedestrian 47% conversion rate.  The Tigers kept it close by decisively winning the arc 33 to 15.  Like Auburn they burned us for 11 treys, but it took them 29 attempts.  Mizzou was limited at the line in our gym, which helped.  The defense was good enough to coast to a win with a more efficient offensive output on our part.

On O the Hogs looked like a race engine that would turn over for an extended time and then cough and wheeze to a stall.  The game was played at Mizzou's pace in the low 60 possessions despite the effectiveness of our pressure.  The Hogs got back to converting inside with 18 deuces on 51%, not up to our previous standards but a significant rebound from the misery against LSU.  Only 5 treys and the poor FT shooting kept Mizzou in contact and the Hogs in mortal danger.

It was the type of win that you need to get back on the upswing.  It was hardly a perfect performance, but it pointed to a possible path for this team coming together.  On O Macon got back to distributing with gusto.  The main beneficiary was Gafford, who announced his presence with authority at both ends after disappearing at times in the losses.  The book on defending Arkansas got a little less relevant with Gafford's teammates finding him in the lane.  The three players who led us in FGAs all converted at 55% (eFG%), and Macon wasn't included, which means that we were hardly operating at full capacity.  Hall is transforming the defense with his unique ability to defend on the perimeter and board, and on O he has eliminated the negative plays that were keeping him on the bench.  His decision-making has been excellent of late.  Thompson is playing his best ball of the season as well.

Against Mizzou we didn't get much on offense from the PFs and Jones.  Those were the missing pieces, in addition to Macon not scoring at a good pace.  Our PFs aren't going to carry us in scoring, and we shouldn't need them to.  However, we need a solid double figures from the three combined as pressure releases by some combination of jumpers, putbacks, FTs, cuts, and breaks.  The other problem is treys.  It's difficult to win in today's game with just 4 or 5 treys.  The ball movement improved against Mizzou, especially with better interior passing, but we need to add some kick outs from the lane to the perimeter. Those are the best looks from the arc.  At times the lane seems to be a black hole for the Hogs.  Once the ball enters the paint, it ain't coming back out.  That's true of the entire team, not just the forwards.

The most encouraging part of the defense was the energy.  The Hogs displayed some want to.  What worked against Mizzou probably won't in Gainesville.  The Gators don't turn the ball over.  However, Arkansas was not helpless on D against a good offensive schedule in nonconference.  We only surrendered 1.04+ ppp twice before SEC play, good enough to be a top-50 defense.  Before Saturday the Razorbacks hadn't held any SEC opponent under 1.10 ppp.  This hadn't been the same team on D.  Likewise, the performance on O against Mizzou was still one of our worst of the season statistically, SEC included.  The folks who believe this team can't play much better are sadly mistaken, and hopefully the team will prove it in the weeks ahead.

Do you consult with the staff? You absolutely should. Not sure if Mike would be the kind of guy to scour over this stuff anyways but I think it could help if someone was (maybe someone does - just saying). Hopefully we start Hall again. He totally changes the makeup of our team. All the sudden we become a 3 forward lineup that can defend full and half court AND score at our pace rather than a 3 guard lineup that relies on forcing TO's and scoring at a fast pace.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 09:27:33 pm »

Nice read and breakdown!

Facts are facts whether you like the coach or not! 
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 09:49:09 pm »

Another example of a posters low basketball IQ.

He is right, it was played the same as always. There is never a specific gameplan for any team we play. We just run around as fast as possible and hope it works out.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 08:46:06 am »

This was a great read!
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 09:21:41 am »

He is right, it was played the same as always. There is never a specific gameplan for any team we play. We just run around as fast as possible and hope it works out.

Another example of low basketball IQ.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2018, 10:39:55 am »

He is right, it was played the same as always. There is never a specific gameplan for any team we play. We just run around as fast as possible and hope it works out.

This crap goes back to the 80s.  "Now Eddie Sutton, that guy was a real coach."  "But Nolan just went to the Final 4 and won a national title!"  "Well, I don't want to see a bunch of kids running up and down the court." "Even if they're winning??"  "That's not real basketball". 


 
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2018, 01:07:30 pm »

There was no game plan for Missouri. We played the same as always on the defensive end. Missouri is missing a good PG. We will play the same way unfortunately against teams with great guards and give up almost 90

Contrary to popular belief,  we don't play defense the same way every game.  We don't send two players at the PG every game.  CMA tweaks to the opponent. In some games the only players that we actively trap are interior players that have had TO problems.  We hardly trap at all in other games.  For instance, one of our best defensive rebounding games was at Auburn, who is 11th in the nation in OReb%.  That didn't happen by accident.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2018, 01:34:47 pm »

Do you consult with the staff? You absolutely should. Not sure if Mike would be the kind of guy to scour over this stuff anyways but I think it could help if someone was (maybe someone does - just saying). Hopefully we start Hall again. He totally changes the makeup of our team. All the sudden we become a 3 forward lineup that can defend full and half court AND score at our pace rather than a 3 guard lineup that relies on forcing TO's and scoring at a fast pace.

I appreciate the compliment, but nothing I write is news to the staff.  CMA and company are smart people that have more information, more experience, and more expert knowledge than I do.  Any of us who think we know more about their team than they do are fooling ourselves.  Their jobs depend on twentyish college students executing the way they want them to.  I'm sure that involves a lot of frustration.  Plus, players just can't bring the same tools and quality to every game.  They're human.  There is a larger random element in each game than many want to acknowledge. 
« Last Edit: January 16, 2018, 06:47:00 pm by niels_boar »
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 02:35:55 pm »

I thought the most encouraging part of the Mizzou win was the defense for sure. This was the first game the Hogs won this season when they didnít win with offense. Hopefully that will help the team buy in to the reality that their success will depend on how they defend from here on out.
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Re: Defense made an appearance against Mizzou
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2018, 09:20:24 pm »

Great stuff, thanks!
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