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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #100 on: December 27, 2017, 01:15:18 pm »

Then it should have been a cinch for a PA player......
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #101 on: December 27, 2017, 01:17:10 pm »

Yeah hope he doesn't get injured or anything but I do not wish him success there. Sorry...i am a Hog fan not a ND fan.

Iím actually a fan of the Irish Program and I hope he does well.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #102 on: December 27, 2017, 01:19:58 pm »

No screw notre damn this is not the early 90's .. people like you piss me off .. why are you even on a hog message board if you think we should be happy for some one going elsewhere ... Go get on a stinking irish message board ..
With ya man. Talk about a program that feels entitled...not going to change here until and if we start to win, it's that simple. Thanks Bert, the damage done to this program is going to take some time to reverse, as much as i hate to say it.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #103 on: December 27, 2017, 01:21:02 pm »

Iím actually a fan of the Irish Program and I hope he does well.
Good for you.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #104 on: December 27, 2017, 01:22:05 pm »

With ya man. Talk about a program that feels entitled...not going to change here until and if we start to win, it's that simple. Thanks Bert, the damage done to this program is going to take some time to reverse, as much as i hate to say it.
you can blame bret for a lot of things but this is not one of them.  He was committed to us till we fired Bret, then he opened up his recruitment and took more visits.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #105 on: December 27, 2017, 01:23:46 pm »

With ya man. Talk about a program that feels entitled...not going to change here until and if we start to win, it's that simple. Thanks Bert, the damage done to this program is going to take some time to reverse, as much as i hate to say it.

Stupid thing is Bert sucked but he still had all the instate guys committed .. we bring in a nice young mind and they start dropping like flys..
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #106 on: December 27, 2017, 01:24:58 pm »

you can blame bret for a lot of things but this is not one of them.  He was committed to us till we fired Bret, then he opened up his recruitment and took more visits.
Maybe not for this one recruit but we can for the shape the program is in...
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #107 on: December 27, 2017, 01:30:51 pm »

No screw notre damn this is not the early 90's .. people like you piss me off .. why are you even on a hog message board if you think we should be happy for some one going elsewhere ... Go get on a stinking irish message board ..



The rump hurt is strong in this one....
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #108 on: December 27, 2017, 01:31:16 pm »

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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2017, 01:34:41 pm »

No screw notre damn this is not the early 90's .. people like you piss me off .. why are you even on a hog message board if you think we should be happy for some one going elsewhere ... Go get on a stinking irish message board ..
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #110 on: December 27, 2017, 01:45:55 pm »

Iím actually a fan of the Irish Program and I hope he does well.


That explains a lot. 
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #111 on: December 27, 2017, 01:51:21 pm »


That explains a lot.

Irish, Miami, and the Hogs.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #112 on: December 27, 2017, 01:52:41 pm »

Irish, Miami, and the Hogs.


Iím Assuming in that order also.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2017, 01:53:00 pm »

Iím Assuming in that order also.

Hogs/Miami then irish.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #114 on: December 27, 2017, 01:54:40 pm »

Either you want to be a Razorback or you don't.  A true Hog fan would never, ever dream of wearing anything other than a Razorback on their helmet... ever.  Amazing to me that a kid who grew up in Arkansas would decide AGAINST playing for the Hogs, when given the choice.  Times have changed.... 
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #115 on: December 27, 2017, 01:56:22 pm »

No screw notre damn this is not the early 90's .. people like you piss me off .. why are you even on a hog message board if you think we should be happy for some one going elsewhere ... Go get on a stinking irish message board ..

Early 90s? They played for the national title in 2013.....
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #116 on: December 27, 2017, 01:57:57 pm »

Either you want to be a Razorback or you don't.  A true Hog fan would never, ever dream of wearing anything other than a Razorback on their helmet... ever.  Amazing to me that a kid who grew up in Arkansas would decide AGAINST playing for the Hogs, when given the choice.  Times have changed....

That's right.....

That's why he is going to swap the PA gold helmet for the ND Gold helmet.


You have to look at the bigger picture here. UofAF education < Notre Dame education. That is just a fact.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #117 on: December 27, 2017, 02:02:17 pm »

Either you want to be a Razorback or you don't.  A true Hog fan would never, ever dream of wearing anything other than a Razorback on their helmet... ever.  Amazing to me that a kid who grew up in Arkansas would decide AGAINST playing for the Hogs, when given the choice.  Times have changed....
Changed? I grew up with some great football players that didnít chose the Hogs.  Do I wish they would have?  Of course,but they didnít because they did what was best for them not some Arkansas elitist that thinks just because we claim a championship we deserve to win year in, year out. 
And yes I said claim!  We claimed and nobody else does outside of Arkansas! 
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #118 on: December 27, 2017, 02:07:50 pm »

Stupid thing is Bert sucked but he still had all the instate guys committed .. we bring in a nice young mind and they start dropping like flys..

BB is younger than CCM
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #119 on: December 27, 2017, 02:13:24 pm »

The kid is going to Notre Dame, be happy for him. Don't be a jerk.

Not going to be happy for him. However, I will choose not to say anything
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #120 on: December 27, 2017, 02:14:39 pm »

Early 90s? They played for the national title in 2013.....

And got ran off the field ..
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #121 on: December 27, 2017, 02:15:14 pm »

Changed? I grew up with some great football players that didnít chose the Hogs.  Do I wish they would have?  Of course,but they didnít because they did what was best for them not some Arkansas elitist that thinks just because we claim a championship we deserve to win year in, year out. 
And yes I said claim!  We claimed and nobody else does outside of Arkansas! 

Arkansas Elitist?
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #122 on: December 27, 2017, 02:15:24 pm »

Changed? I grew up with some great football players that didnít chose the Hogs.  Do I wish they would have?  Of course,but they didnít because they did what was best for them not some Arkansas elitist that thinks just because we claim a championship we deserve to win year in, year out. 
And yes I said claim!  We claimed and nobody else does outside of Arkansas! 

I live outside of Arkansas never lived in the state. Everyone agrees the 1964 NC is Arkansas. It's not a claim thing.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #123 on: December 27, 2017, 02:18:49 pm »

And got ran off the field ..

So what? At least they made it. You and the rest of these folks take turns blowing the dust off of ole Ď64. Hang on to it for dear life!


We are lifetime cotton, liberty, and independence bowlers.


And we get fortune of being ran off the field EVERY YEAR by Bama. Not just one game.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #124 on: December 27, 2017, 02:19:09 pm »

I live outside of Arkansas never lived in the state. Everyone agrees the 1964 NC is Arkansas. It's not a claim thing.

I donít.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #125 on: December 27, 2017, 02:20:16 pm »

Stupid thing is Bert sucked but he still had all the instate guys committed .. we bring in a nice young mind and they start dropping like flys..

He didn't have Bishop or Bohanon committed, and hadn't even offered Ferrell. And there's no way to know if either of the decommits would have stayed after the season we had. The negativity around Bielema if he'd been retained could just as easily have caused an exodus. We were going to have a rough go of it either way this year.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #126 on: December 27, 2017, 02:22:26 pm »

I donít.

You live out of state?

Football Writers Association of America awarded is the National Championship after the 1964 season.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #127 on: December 27, 2017, 02:24:23 pm »

You live out of state?

Football Writers Association of America awarded is the National Championship after the 1964 season.

Means nothing to me. And I am a lifelong razorback fan.

Born and raised in Arkansas.....and I am 32. Can you imagine trying to win over a 16-17 year old kid with that "64 dust bunny"?
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #128 on: December 27, 2017, 02:24:53 pm »

He didn't have Bishop or Bohanon committed, and hadn't even offered Ferrell. And there's no way to know if either of the decommits would have stayed after the season we had. The negativity around Bielema if he'd been retained could just as easily have caused an exodus. We were going to have a rough go of it either way this year.

Ill take Bishop over Jones any day of the week.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #129 on: December 27, 2017, 02:24:58 pm »

You live out of state?

Football Writers Association of America awarded is the National Championship after the 1964 season.

This is correct. Itís not Claim when itís awarded. It is however a split NC just like numerous of others in College Football history.

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« Reply #130 on: December 27, 2017, 02:26:25 pm »

Means nothing to me. And I am a lifelong razorback fan.

Born and raised in Arkansas.....and I am 32. Can you imagine trying to win over a 16-17 year old kid with that "64 dust bunny"?

It's relevantance now and impact on recruits is a completely different conversation than if it happened
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #131 on: December 27, 2017, 02:31:41 pm »

No screw notre damn this is not the early 90's .. people like you piss me off .. why are you even on a hog message board if you think we should be happy for some one going elsewhere ... Go get on a stinking irish message board ..
People like you are psychotic bashing a TEENAGE kid for making a decision that is in his best interest. You need to grow up.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #132 on: December 27, 2017, 02:32:04 pm »

So what? At least they made it. You and the rest of these folks take turns blowing the dust off of ole Ď64. Hang on to it for dear life!


We are lifetime cotton, liberty, and independence bowlers.


And we get fortune of being ran off the field EVERY YEAR by Bama. Not just one game.

They played a weak schedule and shouldn't have been there is the point and you know it
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #133 on: December 27, 2017, 02:34:14 pm »

Maybe not for this one recruit but we can for the shape the program is in...
thank you....my point exactly.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #134 on: December 27, 2017, 02:35:11 pm »

Here is the dilemma. Do we.....

A. Wish all these young men well, with public praise, thus encouraging others that follow to see that there really is no pressure to stay in state. Then, watch on Saturdayís everyone else doing well with homegrown talent while our home state team goes 4-8..... or

B. Do everything within reason to create at atmosphere which makes one want to stay and play for the home state team. And, yes, that includes the Stanfordís, the Notre Dames, the Ohio States..EVERYONE

Creating the best chance we have to make our own home state school great again.

Which is it?
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #135 on: December 27, 2017, 02:36:24 pm »

Either you want to be a Razorback or you don't.  A true Hog fan would never, ever dream of wearing anything other than a Razorback on their helmet... ever.  Amazing to me that a kid who grew up in Arkansas would decide AGAINST playing for the Hogs, when given the choice.  Times have changed.... 
So I guess Alex Collins was a traitor? Maybe Clint Stoerner was a traitor as well? Ryan Mallett should've stayed in state as well?  What about Felix Jones, maybe he should have done the right thing and committed to OU or Oklahoma State?

You need to get with the program. The Cardinal and White Colors don't mean much to kids in this state if they can get a ride elsewhere like a Notre Dame. Some delusional fans can spout on here "Notre Dame is nothing" --- well they've been more prominent and noted than our Arkansas Razorbacks have been here lately.

It will take time and winning to build a fence around this state and create relationships into Texas/Louisiana/ where are our money is made.

Give it time. Have patience. Go Hogs.                                         
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #136 on: December 27, 2017, 02:41:21 pm »


This is a huge red flag. 

The kid committed to the hogs with the OL schit show that's been around on the hill for 2 seasons and after the coaching change the one position that comes in immediately with Morris is OL coach, Fry,  and then Jones hits the road to ND.

Poor poor results on this one fellas.
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« Reply #137 on: December 27, 2017, 02:41:34 pm »

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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #138 on: December 27, 2017, 02:42:20 pm »

Here is the dilemma. Do we.....

A. Wish all these young men well, with public praise, thus encouraging others that follow to see that there really is no pressure to stay in state. Then, watch on Saturdayís everyone else doing well with homegrown talent while our home state team goes 4-8..... or

B. Do everything within reason to create at atmosphere which makes one want to stay and play for the home state team. And, yes, that includes the Stanfordís, the Notre Dames, the Ohio States..EVERYONE

Creating the best chance we have to make our own home state school great again.

Which is it?

How do you suppose we create this atmosphere? Outside of winning more games, what else can we do? I don't expect Luke is going to be too worried about where he works after his college career, but for lots of kids it's an important consideration.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #139 on: December 27, 2017, 02:42:35 pm »

You live out of state?

Football Writers Association of America awarded is the National Championship after the 1964 season.
Ok and.... I say what I want when I want
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #140 on: December 27, 2017, 02:44:20 pm »

So I guess Alex Collins was a traitor? Maybe Clint Stoerner was a traitor as well? Ryan Mallett should've stayed in state as well?  What about Felix Jones, maybe he should have done the right thing and committed to OU or Oklahoma State?

You need to get with the program. The Cardinal and White Colors don't mean much to kids in this state if they can get a ride elsewhere like a Notre Dame. Some delusional fans can spout on here "Notre Dame is nothing" --- well they've been more prominent and noted than our Arkansas Razorbacks have been here lately.

It will take time and winning to build a fence around this state and create relationships into Texas/Louisiana/ where are our money is made.

Give it time. Have patience. Go Hogs.                                         

Those are apples and oranges. Florida and Texas do not have one major program that the vast majority of the state recognizes as the flagship state school. That division of loyalties makes it much easier to leave their states.

We have been clamoring the need to build a fence around the state for a long time. And, we have seen kids overlooked who have gone on to star for other schools, and other higher ranked kids who leave the state and donít fare as well.

We arenít going to get everyone. But, I would argue that our own fan base has been quick to rationalize kids leaving the state for other programs when they will not reap the benefits following their playing careers that they would here.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #141 on: December 27, 2017, 02:45:10 pm »

Ok

You're the one that said it. I'm trying to figure out what you meant.


Ok?
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #142 on: December 27, 2017, 02:49:21 pm »

Ok and.... I say what I want when I want

Thatís cool. Itís America you want to say incorrect things go ahead.

But donít be surprised when presented with facts you look stupid
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #143 on: December 27, 2017, 02:49:30 pm »

How do you suppose we create this atmosphere? Outside of winning more games, what else can we do? I don't expect Luke is going to be too worried about where he works after his college career, but for lots of kids it's an important consideration.

Itís a very fair question. But we are very quick, perhaps too quick to rationalize kids leaving for perceived greener pastures. I do get tired of the narrative that degrees from the UA are vastly inferior to other schools. We see this a lot. We are very quick to rationalize a kid with a brighter future for having selected ND, or Stanford, etc. Those are great schools. But we are far too quick to minimize the value of a UA degree and the opportunity that possessing it presents.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #144 on: December 27, 2017, 02:49:31 pm »

You're the one that said it. I'm trying to figure out what you meant.


Ok?
Those Arkansans that canít see past there own NOSE cause they think they are living the high life up there in NWA. 
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #145 on: December 27, 2017, 02:54:04 pm »

Those Arkansans that canít see past there own NOSE cause they think they are living the high life up there in NWA. 

What about the other Arkansans that are living up the high life in other parts of the state, don't you hate on us too?
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« Reply #146 on: December 27, 2017, 02:56:55 pm »

Itís a very fair question. But we are very quick, perhaps too quick to rationalize kids leaving for perceived greener pastures. I do get tired of the narrative that degrees from the UA are vastly inferior to other schools. We see this a lot. We are very quick to rationalize a kid with a brighter future for having selected ND, or Stanford, etc. Those are great schools. But we are far too quick to minimize the value of a UA degree and the opportunity that possessing it presents.

My kids are 4th generation UofA graduates/students, they haven't lost a step in their climb up corporate ladders with their degrees from the UofA. Myself, it didn't really matter on the end of a rice shovel in 1980........
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #147 on: December 27, 2017, 02:57:43 pm »

So I guess Alex Collins was a traitor? Maybe Clint Stoerner was a traitor as well? Ryan Mallett should've stayed in state as well?  What about Felix Jones, maybe he should have done the right thing and committed to OU or Oklahoma State?

You need to get with the program. The Cardinal and White Colors don't mean much to kids in this state if they can get a ride elsewhere like a Notre Dame. Some delusional fans can spout on here "Notre Dame is nothing" --- well they've been more prominent and noted than our Arkansas Razorbacks have been here lately.

It will take time and winning to build a fence around this state and create relationships into Texas/Louisiana/ where are our money is made.

Give it time. Have patience. Go Hogs.                                         

100% true. I wish he would have picked the Hogs. But Notre Dame is far superior to Arkansas in football tradition, recent football tradition, media exposure, and academics (academics being the most important point). It's known worldwide as a premier institution. If one of my sons received an offer from Arkansas and Notre Dame, I strongly encourage him to go to Notre Dame. And as a disclaimer, I was born and raised in Arkansas, attended U of A for undergrad and graduate school, I'm not Catholic, and I DESPISE the Fighting Irish. But for most kids, Notre Dame is a smarter choice, if given the option. Same goes for many other schools over Arkansas, and I wish that wasn't the case. The exceptions would be for certain position players under certain coaches. For a kid with NFL type talent that is a quarterback or wide receiver, for example, Chad Morris or Mike Gundy are going to make you a star. If you're a running back or offensive lineman, Wisconsin would be hard to ignore. The list goes on.
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #148 on: December 27, 2017, 02:59:12 pm »

What about the other Arkansans that are living up the high life in other parts of the state, don't you hate on us too?
Say wHat?  Your breaking up! Must be a bad connection!
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Re: Luke Jones and Notre Dame
« Reply #149 on: December 27, 2017, 03:01:24 pm »

Say wHat?  Your breaking up! Must be a bad connection!

How many troll accounts did you set up back in 2007, and how did you remember the password over numerous computers?
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