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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2017, 09:58:07 am »

We still don't understand youth soccer in America. If we're going to consistently compete, we'll need to shift more toward the youth programs developed by Ajax, Bayern and Barca.

I completely agree with this.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2017, 12:59:56 pm »

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2738130-bruce-arena-resigns-as-usa-mens-national-team-coach-after-1-year

Bruce Arena resigned. I was very happy when he first came back but it seems the team is back to playing with no heart like they were playing before Arena took the job.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2017, 01:13:40 pm »

Good Riddance Bruce,

Your turn Sunil.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2017, 01:18:36 pm »

Good Riddance Bruce,

Your turn Sunil.

I think Sunil is more of a problem than Arena.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2017, 01:55:59 pm »

I think Sunil is more of a problem than Arena.
Arena selected Graham Zusi as starting right back.  He should've been left in Honduras that night.

Hiring him was a huge mistake.  I said it a year ago.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2017, 11:50:01 am »

Arena selected Graham Zusi as starting right back.  He should've been left in Honduras that night.

Hiring him was a huge mistake.  I said it a year ago.

Arena reverted big time in the last four games.  He showed a willingness to think proactively and integrate new, young players in his early games and through the Gold Cup.

He took major steps backwards in the last four games sticking with older players he trusted and running them into the ground.  You can say you thought hiring him was a mistake, but nobody expected him to fail quite like he did.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2017, 01:35:39 pm »

Arena was a band-aid, at best. The players sucked pretty much this entire WC qualifying go-around. There were flashes in the Gold Cup, but we stunk up almost every WC qualifier we played.

Gulati should have been ousted before Klinsmann was shown the door. 

The U-20 and U-17 men's teams both reached the quarter-finals of their respective WC's and there are a couple of guys on the U-17 team that are absolutely legit, so maybe there's hope. Bring one of the youth coaches up. You've got names like Brad Friedel and Tab Ramos and John Hackworth. Give one of them a shot.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2017, 08:45:10 pm »

I knew we were screwed with USMNT when Klinsman was starting Matt Besler and Peter Vermes had him benched because Sporting KC was playing better without him.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2017, 02:42:56 pm »

The U-20 and U-17 men's teams both reached the quarter-finals of their respective WC's and there are a couple of guys on the U-17 team that are absolutely legit, so maybe there's hope. Bring one of the youth coaches up. You've got names like Brad Friedel and Tab Ramos and John Hackworth. Give one of them a shot.

They have proven nothing.  Good coaching at the youth level doesn't necessarily translate to the senior level.  Ramos being such a popular name despite a dearth of senior coaching experience is really weird to me.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2017, 02:51:05 pm »

I knew we were screwed with USMNT when Klinsman was starting Matt Besler and Peter Vermes had him benched because Sporting KC was playing better without him.

Klinsmann's worst trait, probably after his overall player selection, and his lineups, and his antagonism.....

Okay, one of the many things Klinsmann was terrible at was integrating new players.  I thought Bob Bradley was a master at this.  He was always willing to call up young players and/or inexperienced guys in good form, but what he would do was slot only one or two of them in at a time with the rest of the regular lineup around them.

When Klinsmann called up new players, he usually played at least 5 or 6 of them together at the same time, including at least a couple of them out of position, and then blame them for failing even though it is exactly what he set them up to do.  Then he would banish them from the team or rarely utilize them.

It killed the development of the team and left them relying on older players for too long.  Pulisic, Gooch, Saief, Acosta, Villafana, Morris, Miazga, Wood, Hedges, Hamid, Nagbe, Horvath etc. should have been integrated into the team far earlier and more effectively.  That was where Arena failed the hardest at the end.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2017, 04:51:22 pm »

Very little discussion of pro leagues on here these days but MLS cup playoffs have been entertaining so far and Liga MX is coming down to the last couple weeks before the Apertura playoffs. If you've never watched MX before, you're missing out.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2017, 10:28:10 am »

The new USMNT roster is out and it's loaded with young guns.  That's the way forward.  The silver lining of 2017 is that the right coach(es) could really blaze a new trail with the young stars they have coming up.

The team for 2022 has to be built around Pulisic, Brooks, Yedlin and Wood.  Gonzalez, Horvath and Hamid - who I all mentioned earlier - should make for good competition at goalkeeper.  Other young players like McKennie, Carter-Vickers, Gooch and Sargent will likely get every chance to cement themselves in the full USMNT.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2018, 06:57:29 pm »

Bump  here is your soccer thread. Was on page 3 I believe. 
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2018, 08:40:10 am »

Bump  here is your soccer thread. Was on page 3 I believe.
What ever happened to the original? It was well over 100 pages I think.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2018, 08:24:43 pm »

What ever happened to the original? It was well over 100 pages I think.

No idea. I went through about 50 pages and decided Iím not going to continue on. Might have been deleted.  Donít know why it would be though. 
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2018, 10:52:55 am »

No idea. I went through about 50 pages and decided Iím not going to continue on. Might have been deleted.  Donít know why it would be though.
Let's get this one going again then!

This weekend I watched

Morelia vs Atlas
Xolos vs Lobos
Spurs vs Huddersfield
Liverpool vs Newcastle
Brighton & Hove Albion vs Arsenal
City vs Chelsea
Leon vs Pumas
Chivas vs America
Toluca vs Pachuca
Sounders vs LAFC

I pretty much keep a soccer game on my main tv at all times. Look forward to any discussion you guys want to have!
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2018, 12:41:46 pm »

I just went looking for it for you.  I personally do not like or keep up with soccer.  Sorry. 
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2018, 04:13:32 pm »

I loved the old, original Soccer Thread. It was really Hogville at its best...thoughtful exchanges, good-natured ribbing, a good mix of fans of different clubs, etc. Maybe we can keep it going here.

I cannot believe United pulled that out this afternoon. I hope we pound them this weekend...after finishing off Porto, of course.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2018, 07:53:46 pm »

Iíd love to start talking soccer again.  Unfortunately not much for me to say at this point thAt I havenít already said before
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2018, 08:05:20 am »

I loved the old, original Soccer Thread. It was really Hogville at its best...thoughtful exchanges, good-natured ribbing, a good mix of fans of different clubs, etc. Maybe we can keep it going here.

I cannot believe United pulled that out this afternoon. I hope we pound them this weekend...after finishing off Porto, of course.
I thought we were lucky to salvage a point and Nemanja had other plans!
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2018, 01:54:50 pm »

Club America dismantled Tauro FC in CONCACAF Champions last night.

Red Bulls represented the MLS well by defeating Xolos of Tijuana.

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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2018, 10:30:32 am »

I'm glad to see MLS get a couple W's against the Mexican teams. Especially in Mexico. That's huge.

I was disappointed to see Tottenham blow against Juve yesterday. I can't pull for all EPL teams, but I really wanted them to advance.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2018, 11:01:09 am »

I'm glad to see MLS get a couple W's against the Mexican teams. Especially in Mexico. That's huge.

I was disappointed to see Tottenham blow against Juve yesterday. I can't pull for all EPL teams, but I really wanted them to advance.
Juve's experience won that game. Tottenham was great for 170 minutes across both legs. Hell of a champions league contest that.

Tigres - Toronto last night was great. Osorio won it for the Canadian side in the 89th. Jozy was on the score sheet as well. Tigres is definitely the more talented team and playing in 30 degree weather really hurt them.
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« Reply #73 on: March 10, 2018, 08:28:49 am »

Iíd love to start talking soccer again.  Unfortunately not much for me to say at this point thAt I havenít already said before

Me too. I'm a pretty happy camper these days, as Bayern is rolling and could certainly win CL. Jupp is back in the fold, although it appears certain this is his final act. Mia San Mia!
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2018, 09:11:51 am »

First of all, CIAO CAPITANO. Rest in peace Davide Astori #13.



Today we have THE CHAMPIONS (cue Heineken intro).

AS Roma v Shakhtar Donetsk (1-2)
      
Manchester United v Sevilla FC (0-0)

The Italian giants have their work cut out for them at home but do have a crucial away goal.  United looked in control in Spain last week but if Sevilla finds the net at Old Trafford the Red Devils could be in trouble.  Should be an exciting night (afternoon)!
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2018, 09:27:32 am »

I wish United had an away goal in their pocket (a rule I despise), but Mourinho is Mourinho. Hopefully we are as clinical as we were against Liverpool on Saturday and we put away the few chances we create. If Sevilla get an early goal it will make things really interesting.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #76 on: March 13, 2018, 10:12:23 am »

I wish United had an away goal in their pocket (a rule I despise), but Mourinho is Mourinho. Hopefully we are as clinical as we were against Liverpool on Saturday and we put away the few chances we create. If Sevilla get an early goal it will make things really interesting.
I have a feeling we net one early and sit in deep... which scares me... but Jose finds a way to make it work.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2018, 10:35:50 am »

I have a feeling we net one early and sit in deep... which scares me... but Jose finds a way to make it work.

Thoughts on Jose's comments after the game? He seemed pretty DGAF.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2018, 10:40:03 am »

Thoughts on Jose's comments after the game? He seemed pretty DGAF.
Didn't bother me as much as it did some other fans..  Jose's been there before.  He knows our squad isn't quite to the level it needs to be for Champions. People were acting like losing at Old Trafford in the champions is unheard of and he pointed out that he's been there before as well.  Nobody is gonna be in a good mood after crashing out of the UCL and with reporters questioning his tactics and whatnot he wanted it to be clear it wasn't a huge deal.. I don't make any more of it.


That aside, we need to get healthy and get a left back/center back. 
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2018, 10:40:38 am »

Did anybody else watch Messi meg Courtois TWICE  ;D
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2018, 09:09:53 am »

INTERNATIONAL BREAK

Huge week coming up with friendlies across the globe as National Teams work to finalize rosters and build cohesion (unless your Juan Carlos Osorio) going into Russia this summer.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2018, 10:28:57 am »

LA Galaxy to sign with Zlatan this week per LA Times.


Yes I worded it that way on purpose  ;)
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2018, 12:37:37 pm »

Did anybody else watch Messi meg Courtois TWICE  ;D

I did. It was hilarious.
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« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2018, 09:03:40 am »

LA Galaxy to sign with Zlatan this week per LA Times.

Yes I worded it that way on purpose  ;)

The Zlatan had quite the debut. He will now claim he's conquered North America, and will be bored and un- interested the rest of the season.
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Re: The Soccer Thread
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2018, 09:31:18 am »

The Zlatan had quite the debut. He will now claim he's conquered North America, and will be bored and un- interested the rest of the season.
It was an impressive debut no doubt. What a strike from 40 yards out...
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