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Re: Herm Edwards - Keeping it real....Are we?
« Reply #100 on: April 07, 2018, 01:04:47 pm »

Have all you football junkies been living in a damn bubble???

I was wondering how nobody had brought this up yet.  Scholarships have been 4 years guaranteed in major conferences for a while. 
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Re: Herm Edwards - Keeping it real....Are we?
« Reply #101 on: April 07, 2018, 01:05:25 pm »

Have all you football junkies been living in a damn bubble???

Power 5 schools started guaranteeing athletic scholarships for 4 years........over 2 years ago. If a guy get's popped for off field issues or flunks out they can pull it. Otherwise they cannot revoke a scholarship as they use to could year to year. I'm sure coaches still give kids the talk but if the kid doesn't want to leave the athletic department has to explain the scholarship not being renewed. Herm isn't doing anything out of his heart by leaving them on scholarship...he has to!!!

In our June newsletter, I wrote a brief paragraph about a new NCAA Division I rule that becomes effective this Fall and which has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletics reason.
Here are several facts about this rule:
– This new rule was voted in by the universities of the “Power 5” conferences – the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-12, and SEC, as well as Notre Dame. This rule must be followed by these 65 universities.
– Other Division I schools and conferences can choose to follow this rule, but are not required to do so. So, an athlete receiving an athletic scholarship from a university that is NOT one of the 65 mentioned here might still receive a one-year scholarship which a coach can choose not to renew for the following academic year.
– The “protection” provided by this rule only applies to athletes who signed their National Letter of Intent and scholarship agreement after the new rule was approved in January of this year (at the NCAA Convention), will be enrolling in a Division I university as a freshman or new transfer this Fall, AND who will be receiving an athletic scholarship in their first year of enrollment.


– It will still be possible for universities to cancel, or choose to not renew, a scholarship for the following reasons not related to athletic performance, ability, or contribution to team success. Cancellation or non-renewal will be possible if an athlete:
Is ruled to be ineligible for competition;
Provides fraudulent information on an application, letter of intent, or financial aid agreement;
Engages in serious misconduct that rises to the level of being disciplined by the university’s regular student disciplinary board;
Voluntarily quits their team; or
Violates a university policy or rule which is not related to athletic conditions or ability (such as a university policy on class attendance, or an athletic department policy regarding proper conduct on a team trip).


A link is helpful for some folks and here is a good explanation of what you are talking about. Now this doesn't mean that there aren't a variety of ways that a coaching staff can still "encourage" a student athlete to transfer but many, if they feel that they have no reasonable opportunity to see the field, may transfer on their own and still get their degree at another school. Most are there to get an education but most of these higher level athletes that you see being recruited and signed to the 65 schools mentioned, still want to play football. Knowing you probably will never see the field is sufficient motivation for those in that position to find a school where they can do both, get their degree AND see the field.

https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/
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Re: Herm Edwards - Keeping it real....Are we?
« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2018, 01:10:26 pm »

A link is helpful for some folks and here is a good explanation of what you are talking about. Now this doesn't mean that there aren't a variety of ways that a coaching staff can still "encourage" a student athlete to transfer but many, if they feel that they have no reasonable opportunity to see the field, may transfer on their own and still get their degree at another school. Most are there to get an education but most of these higher level athletes that you see being recruited and signed to the 65 schools mentioned, still want to play football. Knowing you probably will never see the field is sufficient motivation for those in that position to find a school where they can do both, get their degree AND see the field.

https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/

The other aspect is, if you were being asked to leave a place you really wanted to be and you were quite certain you might outlast the coach!!
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Re: Herm Edwards - Keeping it real....Are we?
« Reply #103 on: April 07, 2018, 01:17:58 pm »

The other aspect is, if you were being asked to leave a place you really wanted to be and you were quite certain you might outlast the coach!!

I suppose, but that is sometimes difficult to predict. And a staff may not ask you to leave, but may tell you that without significant improvement, you may not ever see the field. That is usually enough for some players to find a new home where they have a better chance to play.
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Re: Herm Edwards - Keeping it real....Are we?
« Reply #104 on: April 07, 2018, 01:20:19 pm »

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