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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8700 on: June 16, 2009, 09:57:42 am »

but why did we have to lose to an SEC team? 

We lost when the decision to pitch Eibner was made. Period. End of story.

Wasn't that decision made on Saturday? Saturday night? That's when we lost.

I said in the first inning of this thread, only one or two pitches in, that Eibner wouldn't see the 3rd inning. It's not that hard folks. The kid can't pitch.

Too many "Hog fans", blinded by loyalty, around here that wont be objective and call a spade a spade.

(By the way, no, I can't do any better. But I can't fly a plane either and that isn't going to stop me from asking the flight attendant why Ray Charles is in the cockpit.)
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8701 on: June 16, 2009, 10:15:49 am »

We lost when the decision to pitch Eibner was made. Period. End of story.

Wasn't that decision made on Saturday? Saturday night? That's when we lost.

I said in the first inning of this thread, only one or two pitches in, that Eibner wouldn't see the 3rd inning. It's not that hard folks. The kid can't pitch.

Too many "Hog fans", blinded by loyalty, around here that wont be objective and call a spade a spade.

(By the way, no, I can't do any better. But I can't fly a plane either and that isn't going to stop me from asking the flight attendant why Ray Charles is in the cockpit.)

Eibner has has some good outings - but it was apparent that he didn't have it after one batter. He could not locate his pitches at all, unless it was down the shoot. Hence, he got drilled. He really hasn't contributed much in the post-season. A couple good plays in center, but the kid won't swing the bat, and he has too much power to go down looking. He needs to swing at anything close and be aggressive. His BA can't get a lot worse. He has all the signs of a kid that can't get out of his own head. He needs to relax, and stop overthinking, IMO.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8702 on: June 16, 2009, 10:41:37 am »

We lost when the decision to pitch Eibner was made. Period. End of story.

Wasn't that decision made on Saturday? Saturday night? That's when we lost.

I said in the first inning of this thread, only one or two pitches in, that Eibner wouldn't see the 3rd inning. It's not that hard folks. The kid can't pitch.

Too many "Hog fans", blinded by loyalty, around here that wont be objective and call a spade a spade.

(By the way, no, I can't do any better. But I can't fly a plane either and that isn't going to stop me from asking the flight attendant why Ray Charles is in the cockpit.)

I didn't see the game so I didn't get to see how bad Eibner really was.  You know that I have no problem with people questioning a coach's decisions!  I imagine it was a poor decision to start Eibner especially since we still haven't seen Smyly pitch since his gem against OU.  But really, I imagine we could have sent Cy Young out there yesterday and still lost because our batters couldn't get any runs across the plate. 
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8703 on: June 16, 2009, 10:43:41 am »

I'm very hard on him on this board and maybe I should tone it down.

But my frustration stems from being the equivalent of a brain dead monkey relative to say, DVH, who has forgot more about the game than I will ever learn, yet, he puts Eibner on the mound against LSU in the CWS?!?

Are you kidding me? Eibner?

I apologize if I have crossed any lines with my harsh words towards Eibner but Jesus. The kid has no business out there in games like these.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8704 on: June 16, 2009, 10:52:04 am »

I'm very hard on him on this board and maybe I should tone it down.

But my frustration stems from being the equivalent of a brain dead monkey relative to say, DVH, who has forgot more about the game than I will ever learn, yet, he puts Eibner on the mound against LSU in the CWS?!?

Are you crapting me? Eibner?

I apologize if I have crossed any lines with my harsh words towards Eibner but Jesus. The kid has no business out there in games like these.

You're right about Eibner. Just your observation. Should've went with our next best pitcher besides Keuchel, and that's not Eibner. I would've went with Smyly.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8705 on: June 16, 2009, 11:03:44 am »

One often loses when playing slot machines. However, it just takes one spin to hit the jackpot. Eibner is like a slot machine. Most of the time this season he just takes your money but he did hit a jackpot against UGA throwing 9 innings while giving up no runs on only one hit. I think DVH was hoping for the jackpot so he could make it to the semi-finals with two lefties to throw at LSU.

Eibner has a ton of potential. He has the build to be a dominant pitcher. He has the arm to be a dominant pitcher. What he lacks is command and a good out pitch. His slider is sub-par and he can't command it so the hitters just wait for that fastball over the heart of the plate they know they're going to get. He needs to work on his command in the off-season and develop an out pitch, I'd prefer that be a change-up. The kid can pump it 92-94mph already, throw in an 81-83mph change-up and hitters are left guessing. There's a reason the Astros drafted him in the 4th round out of high school. They see what there is to work with and felt they could develop him. The most important thing he lacks is attitude. He's too passive on the mound. He doesn't get mad when he gets knocked around. At least, he doesn't act like he's mad. He needs to go out there with the attitude: "you're not gonna hit this, motherfugger," and then believe it.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8706 on: June 16, 2009, 11:08:59 am »

One often loses when playing slot machines. However, it just takes one spin to hit the jackpot. Eibner is like a slot machine. Most of the time this season he just takes your money but he did hit a jackpot against UGA throwing 9 innings while giving up no runs on only one hit. I think DVH was hoping for the jackpot so he could make it to the semi-finals with two lefties to throw at LSU.

Eibner has a ton of potential. He has the build to be a dominant pitcher. He has the arm to be a dominant pitcher. What he lacks is command and a good out pitch. His slider is sub-par and he can't command it so the hitters just wait for that fastball over the heart of the plate they know they're going to get. He needs to work on his command in the off-season and develop an out pitch, I'd prefer that be a change-up. The kid can pump it 92-94mph already, throw in an 81-83mph change-up and hitters are left guessing. There's a reason the Astros drafted him in the 4th round out of high school. They see what there is to work with and felt they could develop him. The most important thing he lacks is attitude. He's too passive on the mound. He doesn't get mad when he gets knocked around. At least, he doesn't act like he's mad. He needs to go out there with the attitude: "you're not gonna hit this, motherfugger," and then believe it.

Spot on about Eibner - he has all the physical tools, and talent. Orel Hershiser talked about his flaws in his delivery, and he was right. He gets his head and shoulders behind his back at the top, which causes him to leave that fastball up. You know what happens to those...
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8707 on: June 16, 2009, 01:53:32 pm »

Maybe Smyly wasn't mentally ready to go.
We don't know how emotionally drained he may have been due to his grandfather's death.
Being available for relief and starting are 2 different things.

We didn't do in this loss, what we've done in our post season wins.
That's hit with runners on base. Not 1 timely hit the whole game.
We let LSU play with a comfortable lead the whole game. We pitched well enough after Eibner was pulled to get back in the game - we just didn't do it.

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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8708 on: June 17, 2009, 07:20:26 am »

Might should go ahead and change the thread name
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I know it is early in the day but WPS-Razorbacks
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I think AR is gonna wake up, and come out today and put a beating on virginia.  we know they have what it takes!
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Rain, rain, stay away, we would like to play ball today. WPS, go Hogs!
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Amen :razorback:
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I have 2 questions regarding tonights game.

Who is Virginia starting and who will be the home team?
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^^ Haha thanks, I was proud of that one  ;)

Here is one for ya  ;)

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I have 2 questions regarding tonights game.

Who is Virginia starting and who will be the home team?

Hultzen is starting and Virginia is the home team
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Rain, rain, stay away, we would like to play ball today. WPS, go Hogs!

We win when it rains ...

Just sayin
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Is it wise to have the word "loss" in the title of the thread?
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Lets go HOGS :razorback:
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We'll win tonight. The thread title was changed in time. lol
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check out arkansas--virginia  who moves on.  and tell me if you agree with me.
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If Arkansas can win tonight I think we can pull out a win vs LSU on Friday and set up a showdown with them the next game
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Whew.  I am relieved!  WPS, lets beat those ACC hacks!!
this is gonna be a warm up game for our next meeting with lsu,      but yes we have to take it seriuosly...... :razorback: GO_HOGS  :razorback:
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I'm not gonna lie... I was ok with Eibner starting. Now after the fact I can confidently say that it wasn't a good call, but I'm not sure I would have done anything different, before the game at least.

Big game tonight. If we win, we clinch at least a .500 trip to Omaha and set up a situation with LSU. They're tough, but as they say, you can't win it unless you're in it. And I'id rather be having to beat LSU two straight than be at home, and I think this team can do it.

WPS!!!
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If Arkansas can win tonight I think we can pull out a win vs LSU on Friday and set up a showdown with them the next game
that is was i think. if we can get on a roll, we have a good chance of rolling over lsu........twice.   go hogs  :razorback:
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who all has a problem with me putting the score on another post, so the fans who cant watch the game can see the score, and just the score.  if it is that big of a deal, ill close it.  :razorback:
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I'm not gonna lie... I was ok with Eibner starting. Now after the fact I can confidently say that it wasn't a good call, but I'm not sure I would have done anything different, before the game at least.

Big game tonight. If we win, we clinch at least a .500 trip to Omaha and set up a situation with LSU. They're tough, but as they say, you can't win it unless you're in it. And I'id rather be having to beat LSU two straight than be at home, and I think this team can do it.

WPS!!!

This.

I'm excited about the game, because I think of it this way: I got excited for regular season games so WHY NOT get excited for a game at the CWS that actually means something?
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This.

I'm excited about the game, because I think of it this way: I got excited for regular season games so WHY NOT get excited for a game at the CWS that actually means something?

Agree.. I'm excited to watch it with all the hog fans in this thread
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who all has a problem with me putting the score on another post, so the fans who cant watch the game can see the score, and just the score.  if it is that big of a deal, ill close it.  :razorback:

I would say don't mess with karma.  Baseball is the most superstitious game you will ever come across.  The big thread has done us good so far.
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fine ill trash the other,  tell me how to get rid of it. i dont want to mess with a fellow fans karma go hogs  :razorback:
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I would say don't mess with karma.  Baseball is the most superstitious game you will ever come across.  The big thread has done us good so far.
ok so I played golf the days of both florida state games and the cal state game (I did still watch them play) but didnt the night of lsu. Sooooooooo
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ok so I played golf the days of both florida state games and the cal state game (I did still watch them play) but didnt the night of lsu. Sooooooooo

Go hit the back 9 real fast.
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Is someone going to spell "LOSE" correctly on the title of this thread?? 
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ok so I played golf the days of both florida state games and the cal state game (I did still watch them play) but didnt the night of lsu. Sooooooooo

So, by the sounds of it, you should get back to watching the HOGS play
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  jst01-------     they dont want to mess with karma :razorback:
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  jst01-------     they dont want to mess with karma :razorback:

we look like some really intelligent fans with that big bold typo
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ok so I played golf the days of both florida state games and the cal state game (I did still watch them play) but didnt the night of lsu. Sooooooooo

You got it.  Time to hit the links.
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You got it.  Time to hit the links.

If you are any kind of Hog fan, you will head to the golf course. :D
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we look like some really intelligent fans with that big bold typo
o-well :razorback:
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I will be missing tonights game on TV because of work

at this point the only gave this year ive seen on TV was the LSU loss.   and Ive missed both FSU games and the CSF game.  So hopefully that brings luck

to take it a step farther.  The 9 run comeback against Washington State didnt start till I went to work.  and I missed the First 8 innings of the 11-0 win over OU,  came back for the 9th and watched Smyly blow his no hitter

If we win today I might have to skip the rest of the CWS
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 :razorback: LETS WHIP SOME TAIL HOGS!!!!!  :razorback:
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I think AR is gonna wake up, and come out today and put a beating on virginia.  we know they have what it takes!
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I wish I could wholeheartedly agree with you but something about VA tells me it won't be easy. If I had to pick a winner, I'd pick VA. If the Hogs win, it will be very close.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8742 on: June 17, 2009, 03:39:47 pm »

We lost when the decision to pitch Eibner was made. Period. End of story.

Wasn't that decision made on Saturday? Saturday night? That's when we lost.

I said in the first inning of this thread, only one or two pitches in, that Eibner wouldn't see the 3rd inning. It's not that hard folks. The kid can't pitch.

Too many "Hog fans", blinded by loyalty, around here that wont be objective and call a spade a spade.

(By the way, no, I can't do any better. But I can't fly a plane either and that isn't going to stop me from asking the flight attendant why Ray Charles is in the cockpit.)
I thought Ray died. You've seen him recently?
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 :razorback: i never said it'll be easy, but i think that ar will wake up and smell the roses. and take out their anger from getting whipped by lsu an vir.  i guess we just gotta wait and see what happens, huh.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Final Arkansas 1 LSU 9
« Reply #8744 on: June 17, 2009, 03:42:41 pm »

Maybe Smyly wasn't mentally ready to go.
We don't know how emotionally drained he may have been due to his grandfather's death.
Being available for relief and starting are 2 different things.

We didn't do in this loss, what we've done in our post season wins.
That's hit with runners on base. Not 1 timely hit the whole game.
We let LSU play with a comfortable lead the whole game. We pitched well enough after Eibner was pulled to get back in the game - we just didn't do it.
What? It was his grandfather...not his father. That doesn't mentally drain you so that you can't be prepared to play in CWS!! Not just any ole baseball game. Hey coach, I don't think I can go today. I am not mentally prepared due to my 80 yr old grandfather dying from, well, old age. Let's not get crazy here...no offense intended, Hoglady.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Arkansas vs. Virginia
« Reply #8745 on: June 17, 2009, 03:52:34 pm »

not cool at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :razorback:
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Arkansas vs. Virginia
« Reply #8746 on: June 17, 2009, 03:52:37 pm »

You would pick VA, HiM.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Arkansas vs. Virginia
« Reply #8747 on: June 17, 2009, 04:39:46 pm »

If you are any kind of Hog fan, you will head to the golf course. :D
I really need to mow the lawn but I guess I will take one for the team. I get off at 6pm so Im gonna have to hurry
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Arkansas vs. Virginia
« Reply #8748 on: June 17, 2009, 04:43:34 pm »

true fan, true fan,    way to take one for the team. :razorback:
i applaud you for your fanmanship.
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Re: Arkansas CWS game thread - Arkansas vs. Virginia
« Reply #8749 on: June 17, 2009, 05:01:51 pm »

 :razorback: who?  :razorback:
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