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Title: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Mr. Porkleone on January 09, 2019, 10:20:21 pm
And the excuses keep coming. We keep going to a half full BWA and itís getting tougher. Iím ready for change, fundamentals are missing from this team. No NCAA this year, donít see it happening. MA seat will be HOT at end of year.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Breems on January 09, 2019, 10:23:08 pm
Literally no one is making excuses.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: OinkinOregon on January 09, 2019, 10:25:45 pm
And the excuses keep coming. We keep going to a half full BWA and itís getting tougher. Iím ready for change, fundamentals are missing from this team. No NCAA this year, donít see it happening. MA seat will be HOT at end of year.
Mike is not going anywhere.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Cmheinley on January 09, 2019, 10:27:32 pm
Haha yeah. I'm a glass half full guy, but the home losses are frustrating as hell. That's the one thing we can usually hang our hats on. What seemed to be a promising season is fleeting.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 09, 2019, 10:29:26 pm
Mike is not going anywhere.
Iím A CMA apologist, mostly because the hate people have for him because heís a clean coach in a world of ALOT of dirty coaches, but I do believe the seat is hot, and will get hotter if he doesnít put his brain to use and actually sit and find the mistakes In coaching philosophy, like stop double teaming and helping on every possession which allows a wide open shot, learn to run a few plays when the motion offense isnít working, play zone time to time, heís just going to have to do those things or else itís not going to end well.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: isavedjazz on January 09, 2019, 10:30:05 pm
This season has been unacceptable so far. Yet Mike has consistently gotten his teams better throughout the season. For this reason I will give him the rest of the year before deciding how I feel about the future
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: sickboy on January 09, 2019, 10:31:17 pm
Thx for clearing that up Hunter Yuracek wannabe.

It doesnít take a rocket scientist or an AD to realize that Mike Anderson isnít going anywhere.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: RedRock on January 09, 2019, 10:31:44 pm
Haha yeah. I'm a glass half full guy, but the home losses are frustrating as hell. That's the one thing we can usually hang our hats on. What seemed to be a promising season is fleeting.

Home / road, who cares? It's close, real close. Effort or moral victories matters most. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: mjsphd on January 09, 2019, 10:31:46 pm
Thx for clearing that up Hunter Yuracek wannabe.

I agree that the "Mike is here for life" may be less set in stone with a new AD in place.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Hogmatic on January 09, 2019, 10:38:47 pm
Iím A CMA apologist, mostly because the hate people have for him because heís a clean coach in a world of ALOT of dirty coaches, but I do believe the seat is hot, and will get hotter if he doesnít put his brain to use and actually sit and find the mistakes In coaching philosophy, like stop double teaming and helping on every possession which allows a wide open shot, learn to run a few plays when the motion offense isnít working, play zone time to time, heís just going to have to do those things or else itís not going to end well.

I applaud your unemotional response and logic.  The empty seats are going to get Mike in trouble before the record will.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Hogmatic on January 09, 2019, 10:41:38 pm
Mike is not going anywhere.

I am so tired of hearing the arrogance of that response.  Empty seats are going to prove you wrong.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: LumberBacks on January 09, 2019, 10:46:52 pm
Iím A CMA apologist, mostly because the hate people have for him because heís a clean coach in a world of ALOT of dirty coaches, but I do believe the seat is hot, and will get hotter if he doesnít put his brain to use and actually sit and find the mistakes In coaching philosophy, like stop double teaming and helping on every possession which allows a wide open shot, learn to run a few plays when the motion offense isnít working, play zone time to time, heís just going to have to do those things or else itís not going to end well.
Not convinced that he has the ability to adjust or revamp.  I suscribe to the opinion that he learned the Nolan system after being his asst for like 20 yrs.  And that's kinda all he knows.  Nolan was his only mentor.  And that Nolan system is now outdated in many regards.  Yet Mike still runs all of that press trap switch stuff that exposes his teams liabilities.  Mike's teams have never run a 1/2 court set very well.  His tool chest just has a couple of tools in it.  I just don't think he knows how to counterpunch or out game plan his opposition.  When 3s are falling his teams look OK.  I don't know how anyone can think that he had answers tonite when the helter skelter ball wasn't working.  I like Mike's character.  He's everything that Petrino wasn't in that regard.  But I think we've seen his ceiling and that's a trip to the NCAAT about 50% of his seasons but prob not a Sweet 16.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Hogmatic on January 09, 2019, 10:50:42 pm
Not convinced that he has the ability to adjust or revamp.  I suscribe to the opinion that he learned the Nolan system after being his asst for like 20 yrs.  And that's kinda all he knows.  Nolan was his only mentor.  And that Nolan system is now outdated in many regards.  Yet Mike still runs all of that press trap switch stuff that exposes his teams liabilities.  Mike's teams have never run a 1/2 court set very well.  His tool chest just has a couple of tools in it.  I just don't think he knows how to counterpunch or out game plan his opposition.  When 3s are falling his teams look OK.  I don't know how anyone can think that he had answers tonite when the helter skelter ball wasn't working.  I like Mike's character.  He's everything that Petrino wasn't in that regard.  But I think we've seen his ceiling and that's a trip to the NCAAT about 50% of his seasons but prob not a Sweet 16.

Our program is hostage to a Legacy that has surrounded himself with other people that only know this style.   How many of Nolan's or Mike's coaches have gone elsewhere and had success?
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: LumberBacks on January 09, 2019, 10:59:26 pm
Our program is hostage to a Legacy that has surrounded himself with other people that only know this style.   How many of Nolan's or Mike's coaches have gone elsewhere and had success?
Spot. On.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Mr. Porkleone on January 10, 2019, 12:02:01 am
I am so tired of hearing the arrogance of that response.  Empty seats are going to prove you wrong.

Agreed.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: LumberBacks on January 10, 2019, 12:13:48 am
Notes won 11 games in 2001.
For a guy approaching 20 years as a D1 HC, Mike Anderson's coaching tree has yet to spring branches.  That seems to indicate that his assts aren't particularly desireable for HC positions at even small schools, or that they simply have no desire to be "the guy" elsewhere.  Maybe the case for Watkins who is nearing retirement, but not for the younger ones. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: MakingPlays on January 10, 2019, 12:41:06 am
For a guy approaching 20 years as a D1 HC, Mike Anderson's coaching tree has yet to spring branches.  That seems to indicate that his assts aren't particularly desireable for HC positions at even small schools, or that they simply have no desire to be "the guy" elsewhere.  Maybe the case for Watkins who is nearing retirement, but not for the younger ones.

I mean how many coaches can legit claim they got a coaching tree?  It's probably only like 3-4 active coaches right now that have former assistants that have D1 head coaching jobs.  It's only 351 D1 jobs.  Watkins has been a high major head coach before, I'm sure if he wanted to be a head coach again a smaller D1 or D2 school wouldn't be too hard for him to get an interview, my guess is with his age, he's content finishing out his career as an associate head coach.

With TJ and Scotty they both are still pretty young, Scotty just got started as an assistant he's got to put time in, and TJ has been linked to some D1 jobs the past few off-seasons my guess is he'll eventually land a HC job at a smaller school sooner than later.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: jacketsting on January 10, 2019, 02:09:46 am
Whether we want MA here or not we are stuck with him.  The tradition is dead and no one, who can win, wants to come here.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: TNhawgfan on January 10, 2019, 05:45:59 am
Whether we want MA here or not we are stuck with him.  The tradition is dead and no one, who can win, wants to come here.
Not true. Was Kermit a big name? Ole miss looks a thousand times better with him. Good coaches are out there and will want to come
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: bigpigpimpin on January 10, 2019, 06:22:04 am
Mike is not going anywhere.
And that's the problem.

1 top 25 team in 8 years
3 ncaa tourney teams in 8 years

And people defend him until they are blue in the face. But the other half of the fan base has tuned out. We dont even get mad anymore. The University has shown its commitment to Mike and Mediocrity. No reason to get mad anymore. It is what it is. I watched Mission Impossible Fallout last night instead of the game, because I already knew how it would go. There was a time, most of my life where I wouldn't miss a game.

Here's how bad it is with football and basketball....7 businesses on Dickson st. Have closed in the last year because they cant make rent because of the lack of foot traffic. Think about that.

Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Hog N Bama on January 10, 2019, 06:27:28 am
This season has been unacceptable so far. Yet Mike has consistently gotten his teams better throughout the season. For this reason I will give him the rest of the year before deciding how I feel about the future
YAWN ... and another so so season with next year being THE year. Riiiiiiggght :puke:
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: oldbooniehog on January 10, 2019, 06:39:20 am
BannerMountainMan,

I am NOT taking a shot at you.

You say that Mike needs to figure out the problems in his coaching philosophy.

And then you specify some problems like his insistence on doubleteaming that leaves shooters wide open.

Here is why many people get riled up about Mike.

He's been a head coach somewhere for about 16 years. And there is exactly zero evidence he realizes his philosophy has any problems at all during those 16 years.

He does not seem capable of change. Heck he doesn't seem capable of changing assisstant coaches very often.

Hoping Mike can change is like wondering if maybe this morning the sun will come up in the west instead of the east.
 
It is simply not going to happen.

And we have going-on 8 years of evidence at Arkansas, and 16 total years overall that show nothing is going to change.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: oldbooniehog on January 10, 2019, 06:47:12 am
LumberBacks,

Do you remember one of Nolan's favorite quotes?

Something like "we don't prepare for other teams, they have to prepare for us."

That's great when your system is uncommon and you have stud players.

But every "system" that's disruptive at first gets adapted to, and other teams find countermeasures and ways to stop it.

Just look at college football the last 40 years at all the offenses that were popular, and then fell out of favor.

But back to your point, LumberBacks
 Mike is so steeped in Nolan, and ONLY Nolan, I would bet that not preparing for any other team is one of his basic strategies.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: avatar on January 10, 2019, 07:00:57 am
Our program is hostage to a Legacy that has surrounded himself with other people that only know this style.   How many of Nolan's or Mike's coaches have gone elsewhere and had success?

This

I keep wondering where Watkins, Thurman and Cleveland would get coaching jobs/
I don't see much coaching going on.

He could have kept Barnes but kept Zimmerman instead.
That was my first head scratcher
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: ICEman on January 10, 2019, 07:01:34 am
Lighting a fire under this team should last longer than just the next game.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: riccoar on January 10, 2019, 07:08:17 am
                                  FLA          ARK

FT Made-Attempted   15-19       15-26
Free Throw %            78.9         57.7


That in bold?  That is your fundamental reason for the LOSS at home tonight.


Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: TNhawgfan on January 10, 2019, 07:09:40 am
And that's the problem.

1 top 25 team in 8 years
3 ncaa tourney teams in 8 years

And people defend him until they are blue in the face. But the other half of the fan base has tuned out. We dont even get mad anymore. The University has shown its commitment to Mike and Mediocrity. No reason to get mad anymore. It is what it is. I watched Mission Impossible flFallout last night instead of the game, because I already knew how it would go. There was a time, most of my life where I wouldn't miss a game.

Here's how bad it is with football and basketball....7 businesses on Dickson st. Have closed in the last year because they cant make rent because of the lack of foot traffic. Think about that.



Agreed. I went to bed at the half last night. Thought getting a good night's sleep was more important than watching a pitiful display of mediocrity. As more and more people become apathetic to the program, BWA will become a ghost town
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: RacinRazorback on January 10, 2019, 07:30:55 am
I had high hopes at the beginning of the season, I really had faith we would make the NCAA tourney. But I now firmly believe we are looking at an NIT bid at BEST! The home losses are the one thing that will keep us out of contention. I would love to see us have a fundamentally sound team. I love all the young guys, but I think they need a different coaching "style" to be successful. Its not only that we are losing games we shouldn't, its the way we are losing them that's alarming to me! As an avid fan, the home losses are unacceptable!!!
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: USChog on January 10, 2019, 07:54:59 am
Mike is not going anywhere.

After seeing how we have flatlined this season, I get the feeling next year is do or die for Mike. It will be far into his tenure and he will have his best guys in at that point. It is reasonable to assume that after 9 seasons it can be time to part ways.

The best thing about giving him that long shows that the department is willing to stick with a coach through some rough times. Hopefully that will be a selling point to other coaches.

Personally I want MA to achieve a high level of success here. I am a strong proponent for him. I hope he turns it around this year and we really get hot next year, but my hope is dwindling. I'll keep watching, and keep going to games, but it is getting stagnant.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: LumberBacks on January 10, 2019, 08:04:02 am
LumberBacks,

Do you remember one of Nolan's favorite quotes?

Something like "we don't prepare for other teams, they have to prepare for us."

That's great when your system is uncommon and you have stud players.

But every "system" that's disruptive at first gets adapted to, and other teams find countermeasures and ways to stop it.

Just look at college football the last 40 years at all the offenses that were popular, and then fell out of favor.

But back to your point, LumberBacks
 Mike is so steeped in Nolan, and ONLY Nolan, I would bet that not preparing for any other team is one of his basic strategies.
Sure looks that way.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Nickle-Pig on January 10, 2019, 08:04:25 am
This is a young team that has collectively lost 4 games by 13 points. Every game we should have won and we didn't because these guys are GREEN. It shows up as pointed out when teams come in here motivated to win in the acclaimed  Bud Walton Area. They will learn and this team will be special whether we have the patience of not. I want it now too but things don't come with the snap of our fingers. We need to be good little fans and hang in there. I confess I close my eyes sometimes.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Hogmatic on January 10, 2019, 08:05:09 am
LumberBacks,

Do you remember one of Nolan's favorite quotes?

Something like "we don't prepare for other teams, they have to prepare for us."

That's great when your system is uncommon and you have stud players.

But every "system" that's disruptive at first gets adapted to, and other teams find countermeasures and ways to stop it.

Just look at college football the last 40 years at all the offenses that were popular, and then fell out of favor.

But back to your point, LumberBacks
 Mike is so steeped in Nolan, and ONLY Nolan, I would bet that not preparing for any other team is one of his basic strategies.

BINGO and they still say that
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Hogmatic on January 10, 2019, 08:08:20 am
Whether we want MA here or not we are stuck with him.  The tradition is dead and no one, who can win, wants to come here.

CMA apologist positioning is all that is....and VERY WRONG.   The program is light years better than it was when Heath left and much better than after Pelfrey.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Kevin on January 10, 2019, 08:09:41 am
CMA apologist positioning is all that is....and VERY WRONG.   The program is light years better than it was when Heath left and much better than after Pelfrey.

that sure is a low bar to get over.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 10, 2019, 08:11:05 am
3 losses at home to teams that will have to win their conference championship to make it into the tourney.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: BassinHawg on January 10, 2019, 08:35:45 am
                                  FLA          ARK

FT Made-Attempted   15-19       15-26
Free Throw %            78.9         57.7


That in bold?  That is your fundamental reason for the LOSS at home tonight.



So when Nolan coached he had the University Physical Plant weld up some rims that were smaller than regulation rims for his teams to practice free throws on and he credited this to better free throw shooting.

Does Mike do anything like this? If not, why?

Wonder where we would be without the New Super Duper Basketball Practice facility (waste of money).
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: DeltaBoy on January 10, 2019, 08:42:19 am
I didn't expect much with this young team.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: The_Iceman on January 10, 2019, 08:47:29 am
I didn't expect much with this young team.

Isn't that sad? We only get to the 1st round with two Senior All-SEC guards. And now we are just supposed to sit back and accept a bad season because it is a young team. Pitiful we are dealing with this in Year 8 of a coach. We can do better.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: riccoar on January 10, 2019, 09:08:37 am
So when Nolan coached he had the University Physical Plant weld up some rims that were smaller than regulation rims for his teams to practice free throws on and he credited this to better free throw shooting.

Does Mike do anything like this? If not, why?

Wonder where we would be without the New Super Duper Basketball Practice facility (waste of money).

I believe there are a lot of things that Nolan used to do in practice that Anderson does not do.

Ask anyone this question.

If Anderson were fired today and Nolan took over as interim for the rest of the season, would this team progress or regress?

I'd be willing to bet the poll would overwhelmingly show fans would feel he would make this squad progress far above what Anderson could.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: PharmacistHog on January 10, 2019, 09:35:57 am
For the love of God could they please make some free-throws?
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: WilsonHog on January 10, 2019, 09:40:47 am
For the love of God could they please make some free-throws?

26-48 (.542) in the last two games. Right at 64% as a team on the year. Itís a miracle weíre 10-4.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: ShadowHawg on January 10, 2019, 09:42:36 am
For the love of God could they please make some free-throws?

Geez it makes me feel like puking every time we go to the the line
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 10, 2019, 09:51:13 am
You wont win many games when your top 4 guards outside of Mason Jones have stats like this.

3- 22 from the field
2-16 from the three
0-3 from the line
4 assists and 3 turnovers

Joe, Simpson, Harris and Sills. 8 points

Still shocking that this team had a chance to win the game. Beat LSWHO

Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: pigzwillrise on January 10, 2019, 09:54:43 am
Concerned. Officially concerned. Iíve never seen us play that bad at home. Airballs, travels, no flow on offense, stepping out of bounds... it was awful. Played like little boys that have never played together. I guess we made some hustle plays but geez, team looked pathetic. Hoping this is just a bad night bc that type of play will result in major changes if it is not corrected. Florida played awful. How can we say we play the fastest 40 when we have 32 points midway through the second half? Team better wake up fast. And force the ball to Gafford if you have to. Unreal
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: ShadowHawg on January 10, 2019, 09:57:30 am
You wont win many games when your top 4 guards outside of Mason Jones have stats like this.

3- 22 from the field
2-16 from the three
0-3 from the line
4 assists and 3 turnovers

Joe, Simpson, Harris and Sills. 8 points

Still shocking that this team had a chance to win the game. Beat LSWHO

Agreed. Those guys settled for jumpers when they could have got in the lane at will off the bounce last night. It was painful to watch knowing that these guys are way better than that.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: OkieBack on January 10, 2019, 10:04:37 am
This is a young team that has collectively lost 4 games by 13 points. Every game we should have won and we didn't because these guys are GREEN. It shows up as pointed out when teams come in here motivated to win in the acclaimed  Bud Walton Area. They will learn and this team will be special whether we have the patience of not. I want it now too but things don't come with the snap of our fingers. We need to be good little fans and hang in there. I confess I close my eyes sometimes.

I don't know if its these players are green or if Mike lacks coaches to pick up where he is missing or what.  Does the team have a coach on staff that appears to be a fundamentalist or someone who drives their butts in practice?  When players were sluggish, Nolan used to get out there and run the court with the players in practice barking at them all the way.  I'm not sure we have that right now.

I'm hopeful for this group of Hog talent, but honestly I'm not seeing the defense.  Everything stems from intense defense.  It's like one sports writer once said years ago its like "10 minutes of Hell and 30 minutes of What the Hell." 

I think we are better than an 8-5 Florida team, especially at home, but man...we sure didn't show it.  Outside of Jones probably one of the worst offensive nights I have ever seen from any Arkansas basketball team.  No bench whatsoever.  I hope they could have done something this season if this is Gafford's last year but I think after last night's performance this team will be very lucky to make the NIT.  I know Mike has a plan and his teams always get better as the season progresses, but it sucks losing at home to a team you should beat outright.  Congrats to Florida.  You guys caught us on a very, very bad night.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: orvillesghost on January 10, 2019, 10:08:26 am
I haven't watched a game all year and doubt that I do at all this year.

Only watched one football game  too.

I hope we win but I really don't care much anymore, the years of being nothing in both football and basketball have taken their toll.


Thank goodness for baseball.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: PharmacistHog on January 10, 2019, 10:14:08 am
26-48 (.542) in the last two games. Right at 64% as a team on the year. Itís a miracle weíre 10-4.

What few times I saw Mike Anderson he just didn't seem concerned which is concerning.  Nolan would have walked off the court if we were playing like that. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: The Hogfather on January 10, 2019, 10:21:21 am
I've watched 8 years of it. Welcome to Anderson street ball

You have not seen 8 years of what we saw last night.  That was literally the worst game I've seen us play ever, considering where it was, how bad the opponent was, and taking into account things like shooting %s and FT %s and turnovers.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Oliver on January 10, 2019, 10:23:57 am
What few times I saw Mike Anderson he just didn't seem concerned which is concerning.  Nolan would have walked off the court if we were playing like that. 

He's either not concerned because he knows his job security is so good that he doesn't have to worry about performances like that affecting it or he's not concerned because he doesn't care about how his team performs.  Either way is problematic. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: jacketsting on January 10, 2019, 10:28:50 am
CMA apologist positioning is all that is....and VERY WRONG.   The program is light years better than it was when Heath left and much better than after Pelfrey.
if I am very wrong then you have the burden of proving it and explain how I am an apologist since an apologist is someone who tries to defend, support, or advocate for someone and nowhere did I say I support this coach.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: JenksHawg on January 10, 2019, 10:29:00 am
This is a young team that has collectively lost 4 games by 13 points. Every game we should have won and we didn't because these guys are GREEN. It shows up as pointed out when teams come in here motivated to win in the acclaimed  Bud Walton Area. They will learn and this team will be special whether we have the patience of not. I want it now too but things don't come with the snap of our fingers. We need to be good little fans and hang in there. I confess I close my eyes sometimes.

And won a few that we easily could have lost - including the UTSA debacle at Verizon that I witnessed in person. 

Days of teams coming in motivated to win in the "acclaimed" Bud Walton arena are long gone - like 10 years long gone. 

This team is not special - not even close.  Weaknesses are being revealed - lack of talent, no depth, poor coaching and scheme.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: hobhog on January 10, 2019, 10:37:03 am
Bud Walton was a shell of its potential crowd last night. Saturday will be about the same. Apathy has set in but the early start to season made people think maybe we could be good. That's out the window - better start winning some games or that place will be empty, like it was for Vandy couple years ago.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: PonderinHog on January 10, 2019, 10:37:06 am
                                  FLA          ARK

FT Made-Attempted   15-19       15-26
Free Throw %            78.9         57.7


That in bold?  That is your fundamental reason for the LOSS at home tonight.
every loss this season.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: AirWarren on January 10, 2019, 10:37:44 am
Always been a Mike fan. Supported him. He has a good record as a head coach. Was so glad to get him from Mizzou. He cares about the program and the kids. AND the State.

But itís getting harder and harder to stand behind him. We have got to get the ball inside.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: AirWarren on January 10, 2019, 10:38:40 am
every loss this season.

My wife gets mad at me when I talk about the free throws(former basketball player). But there is no other way to describe how bad we are at the line and we leave so many points off the board on free throws.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: 99toLife on January 10, 2019, 10:39:19 am
Bud Walton was a shell of its potential crowd last night. Saturday will be about the same. Apathy has set in but the early start to season made people think maybe we could be good. That's out the window - better start winning some games or that place will be empty, like it was for Vandy couple years ago.

What was attendance I heard it was a pretty big crowd.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Ironhawg on January 10, 2019, 10:40:49 am
What few times I saw Mike Anderson he just didn't seem concerned which is concerning.  Nolan would have walked off the court if we were playing like that. 

There was an extended shot of him in the second half when Florida was up by 16.  I thought he looked frustrated and bewildered, like he didn't understand why he was seeing his team do what they were doing.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: PharmacistHog on January 10, 2019, 10:56:52 am
There was an extended shot of him in the second half when Florida was up by 16.  I thought he looked frustrated and bewildered, like he didn't understand why he was seeing his team do what they were doing.

Sure would help MY feelings if he'd get pissed off or something.  Damn they were terrible last night and I wanted some emotion of some kind.  Everybody has bad games, but it wouldn't hurt for the coach to get pissed about it.  If I was florida's coach, I'd be embarrassed about almost losing last night. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: stronguard on January 10, 2019, 11:23:01 am
I made my annual trek to BWA last night.  Disappointing.  We've got the Jims and Joes but we lack the X's and O's.  One strech FL ran the same exact pick and roll play 3 consectuive times.  Our offense consists of running a weave and hoping one of the 2 baseline cutters is open, and if not jacking up a 3.  So disappointing.  Somebody above said BWA was a shell, it was more like a tomb.  Mike needs to go.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Nickle-Pig on January 10, 2019, 12:00:15 pm
I don't know if its these players are green or if Mike lacks coaches to pick up where he is missing or what.  Does the team have a coach on staff that appears to be a fundamentalist or someone who drives their butts in practice?  When players were sluggish, Nolan used to get out there and run the court with the players in practice barking at them all the way.  I'm not sure we have that right now.

I'm hopeful for this group of Hog talent, but honestly I'm not seeing the defense.  Everything stems from intense defense.  It's like one sports writer once said years ago its like "10 minutes of Hell and 30 minutes of What the Hell." 

I think we are better than an 8-5 Florida team, especially at home, but man...we sure didn't show it.  Outside of Jones probably one of the worst offensive nights I have ever seen from any Arkansas basketball team.  No bench whatsoever.  I hope they could have done something this season if this is Gafford's last year but I think after last night's performance this team will be very lucky to make the NIT.  I know Mike has a plan and his teams always get better as the season progresses, but it sucks losing at home to a team you should beat outright.  Congrats to Florida.  You guys caught us on a very, very bad night.


I agree with everything you say except the NIT. I think we will see them grow that much this season. It was one of the hardest games to watch I can recall. I was very surprised that they got back in the game at the end. If we could have shot free throws it would have been a win. We had 22 at halftime? I think it was pointed out Gafford took 2 shots the first half. ??? Bad night indeed.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: riccoar on January 10, 2019, 12:13:19 pm

Still shocking that this team had a chance to win the game. Beat LSWHO


Not really.  We had more rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks than Florida did.  We were neck and neck with them at FG% and 3PT% (Both teams shot horrible in these two categories).

Where we lost was having 4 more turnovers than Florida and missing 7 more free throws than they did.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: SemperFi on January 10, 2019, 12:36:23 pm
Just sick and tired of all the losses and excuses of why/how we lost? The young team label has been applied year after year after year. 8 seasons in and weíre still a team running around in diapers. Itís time to make a change, otherwise next year will be exactly the same. No Gafford just means more excuses for the 2019/20 season.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Mjs84 on January 10, 2019, 12:39:07 pm
Sure would help MY feelings if he'd get pissed off or something.  Damn they were terrible last night and I wanted some emotion of some kind.  Everybody has bad games, but it wouldn't hurt for the coach to get pissed about it.  If I was florida's coach, I'd be embarrassed about almost losing last night.

This is my biggest bone to pick.  Get in a kids face and yell at him.  Put some fire on his arse.  Throw a chair.  Toss your jacket in the stands.  Kick the basketball into the rafters.  Goodness gracious, how much xanax are they giving this man.  It's disrupting his ability to coach.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Mr. Porkleone on January 10, 2019, 12:39:11 pm
What was attendance I heard it was a pretty big crowd.

I sat in lower bowl and pretty full. Some people up top but Iíd say 10-12k
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: wildturkey8 on January 10, 2019, 12:55:25 pm
if I am very wrong then you have the burden of proving it and explain how I am an apologist since an apologist is someone who tries to defend, support, or advocate for someone and nowhere did I say I support this coach.
You are clever but not clever enough.  You made the initial assertion that no coach who wanted to win would come here. You have the burden.  We are waiting on you to present your case. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: ShadowHawg on January 10, 2019, 01:01:41 pm
This is my biggest bone to pick.  Get in a kids face and yell at him.  Put some fire on his arse.  Throw a chair.  Toss your jacket in the stands.  Kick the basketball into the rafters.  Goodness gracious, how much xanax are they giving this man.  It's disrupting his ability to coach.

I agree. Dabo is an idiot for not taking your advice.

There are so many great coaches who never coached in that style.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: hobhog on January 10, 2019, 02:19:30 pm
I sat in lower bowl and pretty full. Some people up top but Iíd say 10-12k

9,950 announced.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: PharmacistHog on January 10, 2019, 03:22:24 pm
I agree. Dabo is an idiot for not taking your advice.

There are so many great coaches who never coached in that style.

But Anderson HAS done it in the past, I mean not like "walk off the floor mad" but I've seen him get in the referee's ass.  Just didn't seem to have it last night. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: 010HogFan on January 10, 2019, 03:46:22 pm
I agree. Dabo is an idiot for not taking your advice.

There are so many great coaches who never coached in that style.

Dabo went 15-0 this year and didn't have to give extra motivation to his team for them to run his system effectively.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: PharmacistHog on January 10, 2019, 03:51:18 pm
Dabo went 15-0 this year and didn't have to give extra motivation to his team for them to run his system effectively.

Not to mention Venables is over there doing all the screaming for him.  They seem to have a good cop bad cop thing going.  We have a good cop and several mimes. 
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: BassinHawg on January 10, 2019, 04:58:34 pm
Dabo tells the officials to "Do your job", Mike asks "Are you sure"
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: razorback1829 on January 11, 2019, 12:38:24 am
This whole thread is dumb. As somebody who is at every home game, they are the same as they have been the last 5-6 years. Apathy is really on HV. Itís really humorous. We go through this every year at some point, for one different reason or another. This team will go on a run. And when it clicks, it will be the best MA has had.

One Sweet 16 shuts the whole lot of you up. Keep watching.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Mjs84 on January 11, 2019, 01:47:24 am
This whole thread is dumb. As somebody who is at every home game, they are the same as they have been the last 5-6 years. Apathy is really on HV. Itís really humorous. We go through this every year at some point, for one different reason or another. This team will go on a run. And when it clicks, it will be the best MA has had.

One Sweet 16 shuts the whole lot of you up. Keep watching.

If Mike lands a sweet 16, the university will cement his legacy and we will look fondly on the memory of what was our highest accomplishment.  He will coach the "mediocre 40" into his golden years until his timely passing as his assistants find their new roles, hoisting Mikes dead body around, donning some snazzy "Ray-Bans ala "weekend at Bernies".  Even the grave will not seperate Hog Nation from Mike Anderson.

Nolans championship, and Mikes sweet 16...I'm in Hog Heaven.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Mjs84 on January 11, 2019, 01:55:24 am
I agree. Dabo is an idiot for not taking your advice.

There are so many great coaches who never coached in that style.

Lmao, excuse me...when Mike starts a season 15-0, then he can sit the whole game on his fist and cross his legs while leaning back on his thumb.  If he's unwilling to chew on some arse, he needs to pair himself with somebody who will.  I'm assuming your old enough to remember Nolans personality.  Mike might be the kind of guy YOU want to hang out with, but YOU aren't going to be suiting up for the Hogs in this lifetime either.
Title: Re: 3rd loss in BWA this year
Post by: Mjs84 on January 11, 2019, 02:04:00 am
Not to mention Venables is over there doing all the screaming for him.  They seem to have a good cop bad cop thing going.  We have a good cop and several mimes.

That last sentence cracked me up.