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Title: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on February 03, 2018, 06:35:04 am
about the NCAA investigation of Ole Miss.

Six former Ole Miss football players who transferred to other schools after the Rebels were hit with additional NCAA penalties plan to build their appeals for immediate eligibility around text messages they say were sent to recruits to downplay the severity of the NCAA investigation into the program.

The players -- quarterback Shea Patterson (Michigan), safety Deontay Anderson (Houston), linebacker Jarrion Street (UAB), offensive tackle Jack DeFoor (Georgia Tech) and receivers Tre Nixon (Central Florida) and Van Jefferson (Florida) -- have appealed to the NCAA for immediate eligibility at their new schools. Without waivers, they'll have to sit out the upcoming season under NCAA rules.

According to the NCAA, six football staff members and 12 boosters were involved in the violations, which included the provision of approximately $37,000 to prospects through cash payments, the use of automobiles, lodging, transportation, meals and apparel. Two staff members also helped arrange fraudulent standardized test scores for three recruits.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/22293030/six-former-ole-miss-rebels-players-seek-immediate-eligibility-new-schools

I wouldn't be surprised if these kids are granted immediate eligibility given that they were mislead that all of these violations by Ole Miss occurred under HDN and not Hugh Freeze. But the biggest thing here is Ole Miss getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar. It's nice to see another team in the SEC West having some off-season challenges.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: bphi11ips on February 03, 2018, 07:00:16 am
Sad story.  Thomas Mars is right.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: 12247 on February 03, 2018, 07:17:29 am
It was very strange how OM was suddenly recruiting way above their average.  Many on here complained about that and most never believed the NCAA was ever going to address it.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: kaki on February 03, 2018, 07:50:56 am
Shea Patterson's signing with Ole Miss coincidently coincided with a brother getting a staff position with the Rebs/Bears/Grove Sharks.  Now he wants to join the Harbaugh circus and claiming to be a victim. Don't know about the other kids, but Shea appears to be an opportunistic user.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Hog N Bama on February 03, 2018, 09:36:08 am
Soooooorry. You took the risk of joining a program that you’d have to be living on another planet not to suspect cheating, and now you want special treatment. NO! Just  because you came from a program that ignored the rules for gain, doesn’t mean you get to continue to do so!
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: HogsonHicks on February 03, 2018, 09:45:55 am
While it’s certainly sad, you also have to question the decision making process of these guys.  EVERYONE knew there was a great deal of smoke in Oxford, and deciding to attend anyway was simply ignoring the obvious.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: The NewEra on February 03, 2018, 09:47:01 am
It's hard for me to believe these players didn't know they were joining a team that was cheating and any gifts they might have received were improper.  Rewarding players for bad conduct isn't the way to stop these illegal behaviors from taking place at institutions such as Ole Miss, or anywhere else for that matter.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: 247Hog on February 03, 2018, 09:52:51 am
It's hard for me to believe these players didn't know they were joining a team that was cheating and any gifts they might have received were improper.  Rewarding players for bad conduct isn't the way to stop these illegal behaviors from taking place at institutions such as Ole Miss, or anywhere else for that matter.

Exactly my thought. No way they didn't either received some form of illegal gifts/treatment or never heard another play talk about it. They knew Ole Miss was dirty but probably didn't think anyone would get punished for it and didn't expect Freeze to be caught paying for hookers on the University dime.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: LZH on February 03, 2018, 10:47:31 am
By God, now THAT'S how you recruit!
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Karma on February 03, 2018, 11:06:04 am
Soooooorry. You took the risk of joining a program that you’d have to be living on another planet not to suspect cheating, and now you want special treatment. NO! Just  because you came from a program that ignored the rules for gain, doesn’t mean you get to continue to do so!
If they wanted to transfer to Arkansas you would think they should be eligible immediately.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on February 03, 2018, 11:19:08 am
All I can say about any/all players who eventually signed with OM (whether or not they've transferred or not) is the old saying: "If you lay down with dogs don't be surprised if you get fleas".
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Dark Helmet Hog on February 03, 2018, 11:47:55 am
The penalties against Ole Miss were not even close to severe enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: stevec on February 03, 2018, 12:07:01 pm
Hugh Freeze loved his sin, but only spouted off about his salvation.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: netteltonhog on February 03, 2018, 12:10:58 pm
Wasn’t Ole Miss already under investigation when Shea Patterson committed and signed.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 03, 2018, 12:31:21 pm
They should have to sit. They very well knew and most of them probably received some illegal benefits now they want to cry. I say absolutely no. Make them sit.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Flrazrback on February 03, 2018, 12:43:43 pm
The old saying is.. Commit the crime, do the time... These players have a 1 season sentence to serve. End of story...
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on February 03, 2018, 12:46:29 pm
Wasn’t Ole Miss already under investigation when Shea Patterson committed and signed.

That's part of what this is about.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: ricepig on February 03, 2018, 12:48:17 pm
They should have to sit. They very well knew and most of them probably received some illegal benefits now they want to cry. I say absolutely no. Make them sit.

I think the only fair way to do it, is itf they get to become eligible immediately, OM get their scholarship and bowl ban extended for two more years.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 03, 2018, 01:35:54 pm
They should have to sit. They very well knew and most of them probably received some illegal benefits now they want to cry. I say absolutely no. Make them sit.

You got some proof?

Easy to be judge and ruler on young men's lives from a keyboard.

Get off your high horse.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: The NewEra on February 03, 2018, 01:37:09 pm
I think the only fair way to do it, is itf they get to become eligible immediately, OM get their scholarship and bowl ban extended for two more years.

That would be a nice resolution. 

I will add that the players should have to pay a fine equal to the amount of the goods and services they illegally accepted from Ole Miss or it's members.  A little bit of sarcasm there.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 03, 2018, 01:38:35 pm
If they wanted to transfer to Arkansas you would think they should be eligible immediately.

Yup
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 03, 2018, 01:39:17 pm
The old saying is.. Commit the crime, do the time... These players have a 1 season sentence to serve. End of story...

Right, but did they commit a crime?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on February 03, 2018, 01:53:00 pm
While it’s certainly sad, you also have to question the decision making process of these guys.  EVERYONE knew there was a great deal of smoke in Oxford, and deciding to attend anyway was simply ignoring the obvious.

Any reliance on their part was not reasonable
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 03, 2018, 05:25:52 pm
You got some proof?

Easy to be judge and ruler on young men's lives from a keyboard.

Get off your high horse.

Everybody knew. Every one of them heard the rumors surrounding that programs sudden uptick in recruiting. They signed and they should not get any breaks!

I swear there are a lot of total toolbags on here anymore. What has happened to Hogville it used to be all Hogfans and mostly real die hard Hogfans and now we have guys like you.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 03, 2018, 05:27:22 pm
Right, but did they commit a crime?
Probably every one of them had their hands out.. Probabley 100% they knew that Ole Miss was cheating. Only a complete idiot would not have known of the smoke around Ole Miss..Are you saying they are idiots?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: ChitownHawg on February 03, 2018, 05:32:32 pm
Wasn’t Ole Miss already under investigation when Shea Patterson committed and signed.

iirc Shea and his dad were campaigning for recruits to stay. 
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: hoglady on February 03, 2018, 06:33:01 pm
Soooooorry. You took the risk of joining a program that you’d have to be living on another planet not to suspect cheating, and now you want special treatment. NO! Just  because you came from a program that ignored the rules for gain, doesn’t mean you get to continue to do so!

The NCAA allegations came out 10 days before National Signing Day - I'm sure some of these kids didn't have many options that late in the game. Why should they have to pay for something that transpired before they got there?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Hog N Bama on February 03, 2018, 08:11:21 pm
If they wanted to transfer to Arkansas you would think they should be eligible immediately.
Did you comprehend what I posted? Understand English?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on February 04, 2018, 02:14:27 pm
You got some proof?

Easy to be judge and ruler on young men's lives from a keyboard.

Get off your high horse.


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Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: go hogues on February 04, 2018, 08:16:47 pm
And they are still out-recruiting us.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Sivad on February 04, 2018, 09:15:32 pm
They may have been misled but I bet they were paid.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Karma on February 04, 2018, 09:34:34 pm
Did you comprehend what I posted? Understand English?
Did you comprehend what I posted? Understand English?
Si. If they wanted to come to Arkansas you would feel completely different. You el cabrón
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Al Boarland on February 05, 2018, 01:13:35 am
OM wasn’t the outlier. What led to their downfall was they attempted to upset the order of the SEC and that wasn’t well received.

However, they will be fine. To an extent they were successful. They were able to increase their recruiting profile and going forward should still enjoy some success on the recruiting trail.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on February 05, 2018, 02:37:52 am
Garbage
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: jcbville on February 05, 2018, 02:41:05 am
Hugh Freeze loved his sin, but only spouted off about his salvation.

Me too. But I spout off less...
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Dumb ole famrboy on February 05, 2018, 05:04:37 am
What a coincidence Thomas Mars, Houston Nutt's attorney, is representing the six athletes.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: netteltonhog on February 05, 2018, 06:50:29 am
This seems cut and dry to me.  As high school recruits they all knew Ole Miss was under investigation, no waiver.  They knew what they were getting into.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: rmcchris on February 05, 2018, 07:50:41 am
My son played high school FB vs Van Jefferson. I watched his recruiting unfold. Switched from GA to Ole Miss at the last moment. He knew.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on February 05, 2018, 08:56:23 am
It was very strange how OM was suddenly recruiting way above their average.  Many on here complained about that and most never believed the NCAA was ever going to address it.
It was obvious when Nkemdiche flipped from Clemson to Ole Miss right before signing day when he had never even taken a visit there
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on February 05, 2018, 08:58:39 am
This seems cut and dry to me.  As high school recruits they all knew Ole Miss was under investigation, no waiver.  They knew what they were getting into.
It is cut and dry, but not in the way you think. They have texts (physical evidence) proving that they were lied to and misled by the Ole Miss. In a battle of he say, she say the winner is the side with evidence
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 09:11:46 am
Everybody knew. Every one of them heard the rumors surrounding that programs sudden uptick in recruiting. They signed and they should not get any breaks!

I swear there are a lot of total toolbags on here anymore. What has happened to Hogville it used to be all Hogfans and mostly real die hard Hogfans and now we have guys like you.

Are you slow?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: PolishPigPower on February 05, 2018, 09:26:36 am
If the NCAA has findings against the players, then they should have to serve a penalty.  But they haven't been found guilty of anything.  Only the school and coaches have been.  Let them have their day in court.

I have a difficult time holding an 18yo player more accountable than the coaches who are supposed to be the experts at what is/isn't legal in recruiting.  I say that because it's not always straight cash homey that gets given to the players or families.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on February 05, 2018, 10:46:48 am
It is cut and dry, but not in the way you think. They have texts (physical evidence) proving that they were lied to and misled by the Ole Miss. In a battle of he say, she say the winner is the side with evidence

Proving someone made misrepresentations does not prove you were defrauded. They must have been misrepresentations that a reasonable person would rely on.

I find them guilty of unreasonable stupidity, willfull blindness or complicity


They can go pound sand up thier anuses for all I care.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 05, 2018, 10:54:13 am
Are you slow?

Probably I have used common sense for years to own and run two businesses. I can't even count the money I have. I just listen and pay attention.

I don't live in a fantasy world that makes up a reason for everything that someone does. Any player that went to Ole Miss knew very well what was going on. You can talk down to me but I don't really care how smart you are. You are typical of what excuse maker are today. Everything is OK nothing is ever my fault...LMAO to be real I am slow...
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 05, 2018, 10:55:32 am
Proving someone made misrepresentations does not prove you were defrauded. The must have been misrepresentations thatva readonable person would rely on.

I find them guilty of unreasonable stupidity, willfull blindness or complicity


They can go pound sand up thier anuses for all I care.

No they didn't have a clue LMAO..They are as innocent as can be.. I swear this board has way too many idiots. They will have to sit cry all you want.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 10:57:15 am
Probably I have used common sense for years to own and run two businesses. I can't even count the money I have. I just listen and pay attention.

I don't live in a fantasy world that makes up a reason for everything that someone does. Any player that went to Ole Miss knew very well what was going on. You can talk down to me but I don't really care how smart you are. You are typical of what excuse maker are today. Everything is OK nothing is ever my fault...LMAO to be real I am slow...

That's neat.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 10:57:35 am
No they didn't have a clue LMAO..They are as innocent as can be.. I swear this board has way too many idiots. They will have to sit cry all you want.

Yet here you are, and here you continue to be.

Huh.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: DeltaBoy on February 05, 2018, 11:16:48 am
If the NCAA has findings against the players, then they should have to serve a penalty.  But they haven't been found guilty of anything.  Only the school and coaches have been.  Let them have their day in court.

I have a difficult time holding an 18yo player more accountable than the coaches who are supposed to be the experts at what is/isn't legal in recruiting.  I say that because it's not always straight cash homey that gets given to the players or families.

I agree it the kids are clean then let them play.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on February 05, 2018, 12:28:20 pm
No they didn't have a clue LMAO..They are as innocent as can be.. I swear this board has way too many idiots. They will have to sit cry all you want.

Do you think you might miss a point or two now and again?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Hog N Bama on February 05, 2018, 03:04:49 pm
Si. If they wanted to come to Arkansas you would feel completely different. You el cabrón
those are YOUR thoughts not mine.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Justifiable Hogicide on February 05, 2018, 03:09:11 pm
The kids were lied to by Ole Miss.
They knew that Ole Miss had been cheating/paying but may have fallen for the lie that everything at OM would keep on keeping on.
Fair or not, I hope they are allowed to transfer away from the arrogant cesspool that is Oxford and Ole Miss.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: 870hogfan on February 05, 2018, 03:19:46 pm
OM wasn’t the outlier. What led to their downfall was they attempted to upset the order of the SEC and that wasn’t well received.

However, they will be fine. To an extent they were successful. They were able to increase their recruiting profile and going forward should still enjoy some success on the recruiting trail.



Arkansas is the better football program and will always will be.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Karma on February 05, 2018, 03:41:15 pm
those are YOUR thoughts not mine.
I think your time in Alabama has gotten to your mind.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 05, 2018, 07:15:06 pm
Yet here you are, and here you continue to be.

Huh.

You are one of the best..Completely lost..LMAO..HUH?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 05, 2018, 07:15:38 pm
Do you think you might miss a point or two now and again?

Not sure..Have you ever had a point?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 05, 2018, 07:21:45 pm
That's neat.

Yes actually very neat. Life is pretty great for me. Sorry you don't have the ability to impact it. Hogville used to be a fun place to go to and talk with real Razorback fans. Still have a bunch of great fans that love Arkansas.. Some I have no idea why they are on here.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: netteltonhog on February 05, 2018, 07:47:39 pm
The kids and their parents knew when they signed. If the kids and the parents refused to listen to everyone in the country besides Ole Miss it’s their own fault. Suck it up buttercup.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 05, 2018, 08:14:36 pm
The kids and their parents knew when they signed. If the kids and the parents refused to listen to everyone in the country besides Ole Miss it’s their own fault. Suck it up buttercup.

And there it is in plain English. No spin no BS just the facts.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on February 05, 2018, 09:56:27 pm
Not sure..Have you ever had a point?
And there it is in plain English. No spin no BS just the facts.

My post forwarded the same position and you missed it.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: onebadrubi on February 06, 2018, 05:16:31 am
Is this akin to a defense attorney wanted it off his record that a murderer caught on video was found guilty, after the trial he wanted it expunged from him W-L record because he couldn't pull a rabbit from his hat, ala OJ style? 

I mean come on.  Anyone who pays any attention to college football knew ole miss was dirty.  Being naive isn't an excuse.   This isn't the same as being told something like what ole miss reps told them by say an NCAA rep.  That in my mind would have merit.  Of course a freeze staffer was going to sell you on no wrong doings... of course the guy the was on video murdering someone was going to try and get out of it.   It's the society we live into today.  No one likes cause and effect or consequences. 
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on February 06, 2018, 05:57:29 am
Is this akin to a defense attorney wanted it off his record that a murderer caught on video was found guilty, after the trial he wanted it expunged from him W-L record because he couldn't pull a rabbit from his hat, ala OJ style? 

I mean come on.  Anyone who pays any attention to college football knew ole miss was dirty.  Being naive isn't an excuse.   This isn't the same as being told something like what ole miss reps told them by say an NCAA rep.  That in my mind would have merit.  Of course a freeze staffer was going to sell you on no wrong doings... of course the guy the was on video murdering someone was going to try and get out of it.   It's the society we live into today.  No one likes cause and effect or consequences. 

Rather extreme examples.

Bottom line, no matter what happened, the rule as it exists today says that if you transfer you have to sit out one season. They are appealing for a waiver, which is their right. I'm sure that the parents and players in question feel that there is justification for the granting of the waiver based on what they were incorrectly told by representatives of Ole Miss. It's not whether rules were broken, it is when they were broken and as it turns out, it was under Freeze's tenure at Ole Miss.

No one (players or parents) knew that for certain but the Ole Miss staff and the NCAA. A lot of parents probably don't even completely understand what constitutes an NCAA violation. So the fact that little Johnny was given a pair of shoes and some cash for spending money on his visit (just an example) probably wouldn't strike them as anything unusual. Being unaware of the actual rules isn't an excuse in any case but I am sure that they viewed all of this as "normal". I can understand where they might feel that they had been "duped" and mislead. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't entirely mislead.

Regardless of what they were told or weren't told the transfer rule exists and their sons may have to abide by it. It won't kill them to abide by it and they will still be getting their education paid for so just write it off as a life lesson and move on.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: onebadrubi on February 06, 2018, 06:02:58 am
Rather extreme examples.

Bottom line, no matter what happened, the rule as it exists today says that if you transfer you have to sit out one season. They are appealing for a waiver, which is their right. I'm sure that the parents and players in question feel that there is justification for the granting of the waiver based on what they were incorrectly told by representatives of Ole Miss. It's not whether rules were broken, it is when they were broken and as it turns out, it was under Freeze's tenure at Ole Miss.

No one (players or parents) knew that for certain but the Ole Miss staff and the NCAA. A lot of parents probably don't even completely understand what constitutes an NCAA violation. So the fact that little Johnny was given a pair of shoes and some cash for spending money on his visit (just an example) probably wouldn't strike them as anything unusual. Being unaware of the actual rules isn't an excuse in any case but I am sure that they viewed all of this as "normal". I can understand where they might feel that they had been "duped" and mislead. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't entirely mislead.

Regardless of what they were told or weren't told the transfer rule exists and their sons may have to abide by it. It won't kill them to abide by it and they will still be getting their education paid for so just write it off as a life lesson and move on.

The transfer rule exist, however you can freely transfer if your school has two bowl season bands I though?  Just must file this waiver?
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on February 06, 2018, 06:16:47 am
The transfer rule exist, however you can freely transfer if your school has two bowl season bands I though?  Just must file this waiver?

I have no idea if the transfer rule has any kind of a clause that involves players whose teams receive multiple years of a bowl ban. I don't think that it does at this time, but I'm not certain. I believe that under normal transfer rules a waiver for immediate eligibility can be filed but I would think that it would only be approved under extreme circumstances that were beyond the control of the player and didn't involve the player in any way.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 06, 2018, 07:26:21 am
Yes actually very neat. Life is pretty great for me. Sorry you don't have the ability to impact it. Hogville used to be a fun place to go to and talk with real Razorback fans. Still have a bunch of great fans that love Arkansas.. Some I have no idea why they are on here.

I'm not a real fan because I think the current transfer rules are stupid?  That's quite a take.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Hog N Bama on February 06, 2018, 08:56:15 am
The kids and their parents knew when they signed. If the kids and the parents refused to listen to everyone in the country besides Ole Miss it’s their own fault. Suck it up buttercup.
BINGO!!
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on February 06, 2018, 04:08:44 pm
My post forwarded the same position and you missed it.

OH sorry I am slow..
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on February 06, 2018, 08:24:32 pm
Let's get back to topic and limit the discussion to that instead of throwing insults at one another. Thanks.
Title: Re: Off Season Topic: Ex-Ole Miss players say they were misled...
Post by: Inhogswetrust on February 07, 2018, 07:23:15 am
The kids were lied to by Ole Miss.
They knew that Ole Miss had been cheating/paying but may have fallen for the lie that everything at OM would keep on keeping on.
Fair or not, I hope they are allowed to transfer away from the arrogant cesspool that is Oxford and Ole Miss.

Players that signed with that arrogant cesspool are just as arrogant themselves. They signed with a place under investigation knowing full well they would probably be hit with sanctions only to turn their back on it and want to leave when the dung hits the fan. I have no sympathy for either.