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Title: "...a dirty pair of coaches..."
Post by: Martygit on September 27, 2017, 08:34:55 am
http://www.greensboro.com/sports/accxtra/ed-hardin-why-did-the-acc-ever-invite-louisville/article_33e78166-a307-11e7-b966-3f5b8acb372a.html

"Itís Louisville, of course: The school that brought us the strippers scandal and a dirty pair of coaches, Rick Pitino and Bobby Petrino, and NCAA violations..."
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Post by: Piggfoot on September 27, 2017, 08:42:47 am
So what's the allegation?
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 08:46:26 am
http://www.greensboro.com/sports/accxtra/ed-hardin-why-did-the-acc-ever-invite-louisville/article_33e78166-a307-11e7-b966-3f5b8acb372a.html

"Itís Louisville, of course: The school that brought us the strippers scandal and a dirty pair of coaches, Rick Pitino and Bobby Petrino, and NCAA violations..."
Not one NCAA violation mentioned about CPP..nice try though..99.9% of article is about Pitino...just stop.
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Post by: onebadrubi on September 27, 2017, 08:50:06 am
The acc needs to not look any further than their bell cow unc
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 08:55:02 am
Until he gets popped for a major NCAA violation, it's not fair to call Petrino dirty.
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Post by: HardCore on September 27, 2017, 09:01:17 am
The acc needs to not look any further than their bell cow unc

Good Point...doubt Hardin brings that up that slippery slope too much
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 09:03:09 am
This is an indictment against their AD and Basketball staff, not Petrino.
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Post by: Grag T on September 27, 2017, 09:25:37 am
Thread fail
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Post by: razorbackfaninar on September 27, 2017, 09:39:00 am
In fairness the OP was just quoting the article.   
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 09:40:04 am
In fairness the OP was just quoting the article.

In fairness we all know the intent of this thread
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Post by: jgphillips3 on September 27, 2017, 09:52:45 am
Dirty?  Petrino?  Thatís ridiculous.  He may be a horrible person but there have never been any hints of NCAA violations in his program of which I am aware.
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Post by: onebadrubi on September 27, 2017, 09:56:26 am
Dirty?  Petrino?  Thatís ridiculous.  He may be a horrible person but there have never been any hints of NCAA violations in his program of which I am aware.

His ego didn't allow him to screw with handlers. 
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 10:26:33 am
Louisville just fired their AD i think

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/report-louisville-fired-ad-tom-jurich-wake-recent-scandal/
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Post by: younghog on September 27, 2017, 10:28:59 am
HOGS ONLY
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:29:51 am
https://twitter.com/jdemling/status/913055833721798656

Can confirm Louisville AD Tom Jurich has been relieved of his duties at the school.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:31:17 am
when were you when tom jurich dies
i was sat in dorm reading of lamar heisman and coach petrino
Ďlouisville is killí
Ďnoí
and you???
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Post by: carolinahogger on September 27, 2017, 10:31:35 am
I feel so much better about our incompetent coaching staff now.   ;)
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 10:31:45 am
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/12/14/louisvilles-tainted-coach-cant-hide-from-wake-forest-scandal-forever/amp/

Just a matter of time till Bobby messes up again and won't have Jurich there to protect him. 
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Post by: Darren DeLoach (semohawg) on September 27, 2017, 10:32:08 am
Dirty?  Petrino?  Thatís ridiculous.  He may be a horrible person but there have never been any hints of NCAA violations in his program of which I am aware.

No doubt, his lack of recruiting backs this up.
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Post by: Cambridge Hog on September 27, 2017, 10:34:07 am
Pitino OUT. Bye bye
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:37:19 am
lol at the posts on reddit regarding their AD being fired.....

"Oh god, Bobby Petrino is completely unsupervised now"

"We will see neck brace and broken leg Bobby petrino"

"... but the only check he has on that behavior now is himself. Oh dear God."

"ULL President Postel's third point of business this morning was to order UofL police to put a boot on Bobby's motorcycles until further notice."

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Post by: navyhog24 on September 27, 2017, 10:39:47 am
Petrino may be a [CENSORED] and an a-hole, but he doesn't cheat in recruiting.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:39:57 am
[Ė]Cincinnati BearcatsUClaxCats 3 points 23 minutes ago
It was inevitable, and I mean before yesterday's news broke. What do I mean? You don't hire guys like Pitino and Petrino and then expect stuff to not hit the fan one day.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:43:55 am
https://twitter.com/DerekVolner/status/913060899199516673

Live on SportsCenter, @michaeleaves reports that Rick Pitino has been fired
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:44:18 am
This is how win at all costs ends. Just sayin.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 10:46:52 am
This is how win at all costs ends. Just sayin.

+10000  i am so glad it is finally happening, it is time for the karma to come.
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Post by: MultipleScoreGasms on September 27, 2017, 10:47:46 am
I don't know if either have been fired, but this is the most current I can find.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/signs-indicate-louisvilles-rick-pitino-tom-jurich-fired-amid-college-basketball-scandal-144838841.html
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 10:48:46 am
Quit gloating.  This just means that we are one day closer to Petrino being back in the SEC and beating us like a red headed stepchild.

By contract, his buyout was just reduced by half with the firing of Jurich. 
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:50:41 am
Quit gloating.  This just means that we are one day closer to Petrino being back in the SEC and beating us like a red headed stepchild.

By contract, his buyout was just reduced by half with the firing of Jurich.

Nobody is gloating. This is huge news in the sports world. The only reason you are feeling bullied right now is your position of win at all costs just got a huge shiner.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 10:52:25 am
Nobody is gloating. This is huge news in the sports world. The only reason you are feeling bullied right now is your position of win at all costs just got a huge shiner.

Oh, I'm win at all costs.  Thanks for identifying yourself, Mr. Long.
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Post by: LRHawg on September 27, 2017, 10:52:47 am
This is how win at all costs ends. Just sayin.

Unless you're Bama, where it's an institution.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 10:53:15 am
btw this is just the first day.

Let that sink in
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Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2017, 10:53:21 am
https://twitter.com/BarstoolUA/status/913067895546089473
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:54:26 am
https://twitter.com/BarstoolUA/status/913067895546089473

lol
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:56:08 am
It is being reported on radio that Pitino met with the board for less than 3 minutes before being fired. This might have death penalty possibilities.
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 10:57:22 am
Quit gloating.  This just means that we are one day closer to Petrino being back in the SEC and beating us like a red headed stepchild.

By contract, his buyout was just reduced by half with the firing of Jurich.

He'll stay at Louisville as long as the new AD tolerates him or he screws up.  If he does have to find another job, it will be somewhere like UCF or Charlotte.  ADs aren't going to put themselves at risk for him.

Jurich lived with and protected the risks because Louisville had to in order to be attractive to a conference like the ACC. 
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Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2017, 10:57:29 am
It is being reported on radio that Pitino met with the board for less than 3 minutes before being fired. This might have death penalty possibilities.

Jurich was told to fire Pitino, he refused, so they fired both of them.
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Post by: MultipleScoreGasms on September 27, 2017, 10:57:33 am
Quit gloating.  This just means that we are one day closer to Petrino being back in the SEC and beating us like a red headed stepchild.

By contract, his buyout was just reduced by half with the firing of Jurich.

That's interesting.  I was unaware of that little clause.  While we are "spit balling," I wonder what we will be saying if JL winds up as the AD at UL.  They obviously need a dose of integrity.
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Post by: Hoggish1 on September 27, 2017, 10:57:39 am
Louisville just fired their AD i think

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/report-louisville-fired-ad-tom-jurich-wake-recent-scandal/

Yep and Pitino
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 10:59:13 am
Jurich was told to fire Pitino, he refused, so they fired both of them.

Now THAT is how to stand by your hires.
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Post by: Inhogswetrust on September 27, 2017, 11:00:05 am
http://www.greensboro.com/sports/accxtra/ed-hardin-why-did-the-acc-ever-invite-louisville/article_33e78166-a307-11e7-b966-3f5b8acb372a.html

"Itís Louisville, of course: The school that brought us the strippers scandal and a dirty pair of coaches, Rick Pitino and Bobby Petrino, and NCAA violations..."

Don't forget Denny Crum before those.......................
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Post by: MultipleScoreGasms on September 27, 2017, 11:02:41 am
Here's another one.  Seems to confirm firings.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20834710/louisville-head-coach-rick-pitino-athletic-director-tom-jurich-out
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 11:03:00 am
Petrino's buyout is now a mere $4.25 million now.  There will be a bidding war between Tennessee, Florida, and maybe Auburn for his services.
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Post by: Inhogswetrust on September 27, 2017, 11:03:15 am
This is how win at all costs ends. Just sayin.

Not always but it SHOULD be the way it ends for those type of programs. The only thing is they should also give schools/programs out more death penalties not less.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 11:04:42 am
In fairness the OP was just quoting the article.
With an agenda...and misleading as so.  Probably a member of the "media".
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Post by: Inhogswetrust on September 27, 2017, 11:05:20 am
Jurich was told to fire Pitino, he refused, so they fired both of them.

AT&T phone calls from lawyers in Louisville just jammed the system.....................
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:05:34 am
Petrino's buyout is now a mere $4.25 million now.  There will be a bidding war between Tennessee, Florida, and maybe Auburn for his services.

Yes. After watching Jurich get tossed into the volcano for taking a chance on shady men for the sake of winning, other AD's can't wait to walk the same path.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 11:06:47 am
Nobody is gloating. This is huge news in the sports world. The only reason you are feeling bullied right now is your position of win at all costs just got a huge shiner.
Ah..the red herring again....must cheat to win..got it.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:07:20 am
this is day 1 of the aftermath. I am curious if more than just the Louisville duo lose their jobs today.

I expect to see lots of people fired in the coming days.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 11:07:27 am
Yes. After watching Jurich get tossed into the volcano for taking a chance on shady men for the sake of winning, other AD's can't wait to walk the same path.

Enumerate and explain Petrino's list of NCAA infractions.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:08:31 am
Enumerate and explain Petrino's list of NCAA infractions.

that maybe none, but do you think he might have some FBI infractions? his AD and head basketball coach just bit it because of FBI reasons...
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Post by: Hoggish1 on September 27, 2017, 11:09:05 am
Louisville just fired their AD i think

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/report-louisville-fired-ad-tom-jurich-wake-recent-scandal/

Yep and Pitino
lol at the posts on reddit regarding their AD being fired.....

"Oh god, Bobby Petrino is completely unsupervised now"

"We will see neck brace and broken leg Bobby petrino"

"... but the only check he has on that behavior now is himself. Oh dear God."

"ULL President Postel's third point of business this morning was to order UofL police to put a boot on Bobby's motorcycles until further notice."



Fiction haha. But not as strange as reality, unfortunately...
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 11:10:35 am
that maybe none, but do you think he might have some FBI infractions? his AD and head basketball coach just bit it because of FBI reasons...
No...was he arrested or named?
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Post by: factchecker on September 27, 2017, 11:11:03 am
Enumerate and explain Petrino's list of NCAA infractions.

Where was this attitude when you were spreading rumors of Whaley being out for the season with a broken jaw?
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:11:13 am
Enumerate and explain Petrino's list of NCAA infractions.

Im not interested in humoring you with an effort to change the opinions of close minded people.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:12:21 am
No...was he arrested or named?

yet, this is day 1, Jurich wasn't arrested either.  no one was named specifically. This thing is still going no telling where/what/who is next.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:13:38 am
yet, this is day 1, Jurich wasn't arrested either.  no one was named specifically. This thing is still going no telling where/what/who is next.

I think people are confused about the difference in the NCAA and the FBI.
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Post by: EastexHawg on September 27, 2017, 11:14:07 am
Nobody is gloating. This is huge news in the sports world. The only reason you are feeling bullied right now is your position of win at all costs just got a huge shiner.

"Win at all costs"?  That's a ridiculous characterization, at least as it pertains to Petrino.  But...I'm at least glad to see you got your talking points memo from Jeff Long, our "lose at no cost, some cost, or all costs" athletic director.

As for Jurich and Pitino, I have been busy lately and haven't had time to read of watch anything in-depth about what is going on.  I have heard snippets about the Adidas scandal.  If it is true and Jurich and Pitino were involved, their firings are justified.  So far lumping Petrino in with them is nothing more than guilt by association.

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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:15:00 am
I think people are confused about the difference in the NCAA and the FBI.

no kidding these folks number one concern IMHO is staying out of jail, not so much keeping their jobs.

The schools are just cutting bait in an effort to avoid the fall out.  This is going to be HUGE.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 11:15:20 am
yet, this is day 1, Jurich wasn't arrested either.  no one was named specifically. This thing is still going no telling where/what/who is next.
You are right...maybe Bert is next...or Jeffe...like you say, you just don't know.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 11:16:50 am
"Win at all costs"?  That's a ridiculous characterization, at least as it pertains to Petrino.  But...I'm at least lad to see you got your talking points memo from Jeff Long, our "lose at no cost, some cost, or all costs" athletic director.

As for Jurich and Pitino, I have been busy lately and haven't had time to read of watch anything in-depth about what is going on.  I have heard snippets about the Adidas scandal.  If it is true and Jurich and Pitino were involved, their firings are justified.  So far lumping Petrino in with them is nothing more than guilt by association.
To many facts here.....
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:17:01 am
"Win at all costs"?  That's a ridiculous characterization, at least as it pertains to Petrino.  But...I'm at least lad to see you got your talking points memo from Jeff Long, our "lose at no cost, some cost, or all costs" athletic director.

As for Jurich and Pitino, I have been busy lately and haven't had time to read of watch anything in-depth about what is going on.  I have heard snippets about the Adidas scandal.  If it is true and Jurich and Pitino were involved, their firings are justified.  So far lumping Petrino in with them is nothing more than guilt by association.

I haven't suggested that Petrino was involved. In fact, earlier in this very thread, I said this is an indictment of their AD and basketball program, but not CBP. You would benefit from figuring it out before you accuse.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:17:01 am
You are right...maybe Bert is next...or Jeffe...like you say, you just don't know.

could be this seems pretty deep i mean what 3 to 4 years of wire tapping and investigation/evidence and then you add in the "new" material that will inevitably come from the "flipping" of people caught up in this first wave.

The whole game might change or at least leave a pretty sizable crater where GOBN's once were.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 11:17:14 am
Im not interested in humoring you with an effort to change the opinions of close minded people.

So, you can't ...
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 11:18:34 am
could be this seems pretty deep i mean what 3 to 4 years of wire tapping and investigation/evidence and then you add in the "new" material that will inevitably come from the "flipping" of people caught up in this first wave.

The whole game might change or at least leave a pretty sizable crater where GOBN's once were.
Thanks for making my point.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:18:43 am
So, you can't ...

Can't, won't, the result is the same. Choose whichever helps you keep your balance.
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Post by: jkstock04 on September 27, 2017, 11:19:27 am
He'll stay at Louisville as long as the new AD tolerates him or he screws up.  If he does have to find another job, it will be somewhere like UCF or Charlotte.  ADs aren't going to put themselves at risk for him.

Jurich lived with and protected the risks because Louisville had to in order to be attractive to a conference like the ACC. 
Hilarious. Company lines of Hogvilles past:

"Petrino will never coach again, no AD will touch him"

"Petrino will never coach at a power 5 school again, no AD will touch him"

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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:20:43 am
Hilarious. Company lines of Hogvilles past:

"Petrino will never coach again, no AD will touch him"

"Petrino will never coach at a power 5 school again, no AD will touch him"

Well, one did. But he just got fired for his win at all costs model.
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 11:20:48 am
Hilarious. Company lines of Hogvilles past:

"Petrino will never coach again, no AD will touch him"

"Petrino will never coach at a power 5 school again, no AD will touch him"

Not a company line.  Hilarious is suggesting programs like Florida, Tennessee or even Auburn would consider him. 
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:21:25 am
Thanks for making my point.

oh crap i forgot i was talking to White Goodman, touche'
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:21:25 am
Not a company line.  Hilarious is suggesting programs like Florida, Tennessee or even Auburn would consider him.

I have no difficulties picturing Auburn giving it a go.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:22:16 am
I have no difficulties picturing Auburn giving it a go.

Auburn is fixing to feel this burn as well they are clearly involved.  So i am not sure about this.
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Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 27, 2017, 11:23:56 am
Hilarious. Company lines of Hogvilles past:

"Petrino will never coach again, no AD will touch him"

"Petrino will never coach at a power 5 school again, no AD will touch him"



And just to start a firestorm....

Jeff, here is where you can make everything right in the world. Make that call. Posture and say he is a reformed man. Say we never questioned his coaching. You will be a hero in Arkansas. They will give you a raise and a lifetime deal. This is what you want to be....A hero. Make that call Jeff.

Just stay out of the football complex when he returns....

PRJ
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:25:25 am
scary to me how prone people are to idol worship
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:25:36 am
And just to start a firestorm....

Jeff, here is where you can make everything right in the world. Make that call. Posture and say he is a reformed man. Say we never questioned his coaching. You will be a hero in Arkansas. They will give you a raise and a lifetime deal. This is what you want to be....A hero. Make that call Jeff.

Just stay out of the football complex when he returns....

PRJ

I'm not going to lie. I might show some fake outrage publicly, but in private I would have a big smile.
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Post by: jkstock04 on September 27, 2017, 11:26:56 am
scary to me how prone people are to idol worship
100% agreed.
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Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 27, 2017, 11:28:51 am
I'm not going to lie. I might show some fake outrage publicly, but in private I would have a big smile.

I know you would...

We would have nice things under the Christmas tree again.

PRJ
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Post by: jkstock04 on September 27, 2017, 11:29:44 am
Not a company line.  Hilarious is suggesting programs like Florida, Tennessee or even Auburn would consider him. 
If they feel like he would elevate their winning he would be considered at all of those schools without doubt.
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Post by: jcbville on September 27, 2017, 11:29:47 am
Not addressing Bobby personally when I say this, but I'd be shocked if this stops at basketball now that the proverbial cat is out of the bag. I have no doubt there are ADs and coaches all over the country sweating right now.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:30:12 am
I know you would...

We would have nice things under the Christmas tree again.

PRJ

Well I know we wouldn't win any big games, but we wouldn't lose to the middle of the pack teams anymore. Right now I would welcome that with open arms.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 11:31:24 am
Can't, won't, the result is the same. Choose whichever helps you keep your balance.

So you are aware of Petrino NCAA infractions and you won't tell us?
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Post by: Hogwild on September 27, 2017, 11:34:05 am
https://twitter.com/DerekVolner/status/913060899199516673

Live on SportsCenter, @michaeleaves reports that Rick Pitino has been fired

They better be able to show cause, because he former boss, Jurich is backing him. And the buyout is massive.


Quote
According to Pence, Louisville would be in a legal fight over $44 million it would owe Pitino as part of his buyout clause.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:34:20 am
Well I know we wouldn't win any big games, but we wouldn't lose to the middle of the pack teams anymore. Right now I would welcome that with open arms.

everything has it's place and time, i am not sure we can go back and reclaim/repeat the moderately better glory.  But it is football and i wouldn't care either honestly i just do not think the price would be worth it, we would be talking some serious millions in buy outs  and salary.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:36:12 am
They better be able to show cause, because he former boss, Jurich is backing him. And the buyout is massive.

If getting arrested by the FBI for fraud isnt cause, then nothing is.
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Post by: ShadowHawg on September 27, 2017, 11:37:21 am
If Auburn hires Petrino even Saban wouldn't be safe in this conference.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:38:07 am
If Auburn hires Petrino even Saban wouldn't be safe in this conference.

Because of all those times Petrino has beat him?
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Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 27, 2017, 11:42:51 am
Because of all those times Petrino has beat him?

Way more fertile recruiting grounds.

PRJ
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:47:43 am
Way more fertile recruiting grounds.

PRJ

You think that will get him better QB's than Mallet and Wilson? Better receivers than what he had here? It's possible, but history says otherwise. He has the best QB he has ever had right now, and still can't get over the hump. Like I said, dude runs an amazing offense but he just doesn't win very many of the big games.
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Post by: 31to6 on September 27, 2017, 11:48:48 am
Petrino may be a [CENSORED] and an a-hole, but he doesn't cheat in recruiting.
If he cheats in recruiting, he is epically bad at it.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 11:50:24 am
You think that will get him better QB's than Mallet and Wilson? Better receivers than what he had here? It's possible, but history says otherwise. He has the best QB he has ever had right now, and still can't get over the hump. Like I said, dude runs an amazing offense but he just doesn't win very many of the big games.

If we had had Cam Newton in that Auburn game and they had had Mallett and Wilson, we win by two touchdowns and the NC that year.
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Post by: Suidae Suis Scrofa on September 27, 2017, 11:51:10 am
This might have death penalty possibilities.
For multiple schools, not just Louisville.  But those will be for basketball, and shouldn't affect football directly.

-phil
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Post by: 31to6 on September 27, 2017, 11:53:02 am
You think that will get him better QB's than Mallet and Wilson? Better receivers than what he had here? It's possible, but history says otherwise. He has the best QB he has ever had right now, and still can't get over the hump. Like I said, dude runs an amazing offense but he just doesn't win very many of the big games.
At either TN or Auburn he could have something he never had here: top defensive talent and a million-dollar DC.

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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:53:44 am
If we had had Cam Newton in that Auburn game and they had had Mallett and Wilson, we win by two touchdowns and the NC that year.

yeah i mean if we could just find a guy who is 6 foot 6 260 pounds, runs a 4.4 forty and throws missiles 60 yards in the air on dime.....

Oh you mean the once in a lifetime type QB that probably cost someone at least 300k to sign?

so no big deal..
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Post by: Gonzo on September 27, 2017, 11:54:16 am
Well, one did. But he just got fired for his win at all costs model.

He got fired for what happened in the basketball program. For someone who is crowing about posting that BP wasn't implicated in this, you sure are fighting the good fight to tie him to the same illegal "win at all costs" mantra, implication by association.


Go Hogs!
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:54:55 am
yeah i mean if we could just find a guy who is 6 foot 6 260 pounds, runs a 4.4 forty and throws missiles 60 yards in the air on dime.....

Oh you mean the once in a lifetime type QB that probably cost someone at least 300k to sign?

so no big deal..

Would love to see what he could do with our current backup :)
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Post by: Hogwild on September 27, 2017, 11:55:29 am
If getting arrested by the FBI for fraud isnt cause, then nothing is.

No one at UL got arrested.  The Head Coaches at the 4 schools that had assistants arrested haven't lost their jobs.
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Post by: ShadowHawg on September 27, 2017, 11:55:47 am
You think that will get him better QB's than Mallet and Wilson? Better receivers than what he had here? It's possible, but history says otherwise. He has the best QB he has ever had right now, and still can't get over the hump. Like I said, dude runs an amazing offense but he just doesn't win very many of the big games.


Please quote the history where Arkansas has more talent than Auburn again. I love that story.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:57:05 am
No one at UL got arrested.  The Head Coaches at the 4 schools that had assistants arrested haven't lost their jobs.

yet
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 11:57:28 am


Please quote the history where Arkansas has more talent than Auburn again. I love that story.

I didn't say that at all. I said that under Petrino, we had incredible talent at QB and WR that would be difficult to top even at Auburn. If you can argue against that statement the go for it, but don't try to change my words because I know what I said.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:57:44 am
Would love to see what he could do with our current backup :)

this i totally agree with the kid does look Mallett'ish with a bit more athleticism not sure his arm compares.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 11:59:07 am
Auburn offering full refunds on bball season tickets, do you think the auburn AD survives this? i mean Pearl is no stranger to breaking the rules.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 11:59:37 am
If he cheats in recruiting, he is epically bad at it.
Bet he wishes he could recruit Bert...so he could win 6 games a year and have that awesome SEC record Bert has....
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Post by: EastexHawg on September 27, 2017, 12:00:18 pm
I haven't suggested that Petrino was involved. In fact, earlier in this very thread, I said this is an indictment of their AD and basketball program, but not CBP. You would benefit from figuring it out before you accuse.

Oh, my reading for comprehension is just fine.  You responded to hawgon's post about Petrino's buyout being cut in half by saying he was just mad that his "win at all costs" philosophy just took a huge shiner.  Why would a Razorback fan be mad about Jurich and Rick Pitino being fired?  You were clearly lumping Petrino in with the win at all costs group as well.
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Post by: Pig in the Pokey on September 27, 2017, 12:00:38 pm
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Interesting note just pointed out to me. If Tom Jurich gets fired, Bobby Petrino's buyout goes down to $4.25 million this year.
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Post by: Next1_04 on September 27, 2017, 12:04:06 pm
Bet he wishes he could recruit Bert...so he could win 6 games a year and have that awesome SEC record Bert has....

Your Petrino erection is showing. Very small of course, but showing none the less.
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Post by: 31to6 on September 27, 2017, 12:04:16 pm
Bet he wishes he could recruit Bert...so he could win 6 games a year and have that awesome SEC record Bert has....
hahaha.. good point I suppose.

Petrino is a top-notch coach.

But nobody would accuse him of being a good recruiter.

His "human repulsion field" style of recruiting just doesn't resonate with, well, human beings. :P
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:06:39 pm
Oh, my reading for comprehension is just fine.  You responded to hawgon's post about Petrino's buyout being cut in half by saying he was just mad that his "win at all costs" philosophy just took a huge shiner.  Why would a Razorback fan be mad about Jurich and Rick Pitino being fired?  You were clearly lumping Petrino in with the win at all costs group as well.

I didn't clearly do any such thing. You clearly misunderstood what I posted. Win at all costs is not isolated to just 1 sport. If the AD has that mentality, they would employ it across multiple sports. Why sell out to win in basketball but not any of the other revenue generating sports? I was speaking in general terms. You are working really hard here to trip me up with my words but failing. I'm not sure what your motivation here is.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 12:07:59 pm
Your Petrino erection is showing. Very small of course, but showing none the less.
How can you see that.......while Bert has you bent over??
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 12:10:33 pm
All I know is that if Petrino ends up at Texas A&M, Jeff Long needs to be drawn and quartered on the lawn of Old Main.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:11:18 pm
How can you see that.......while Bert has you bent over??

You must be |----This Mature -------| to post in this thread
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 12:11:47 pm
Petrino is goin lead the SCLSU Mud Dogs to the bourbon bowl !
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:11:55 pm
All I know is that if Petrino ends up at Texas A&M, Jeff Long needs to be drawn and quartered on the lawn of Old Main.

Why? Because he fired a man that forced him to fire him?
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 12:27:25 pm
You must be |----This Mature -------| to post in this thread
Really? guess you didn't read the post that it was in reply to...not that it's your business. Please block me, and I'll do the same for you.
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 12:35:27 pm
If we had had Cam Newton in that Auburn game and they had had Mallett and Wilson, we win by two touchdowns and the NC that year.

All Arkansas needed was fair officiating really....
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 12:37:33 pm
hahaha.. good point I suppose.

Petrino is a top-notch coach.

But nobody would accuse him of being a good recruiter.

His "human repulsion field" style of recruiting just doesn't resonate with, well, human beings. :P


BP looks for misfits and the overlooked and puts them into a Marine Corps type system.....


Trey Flower, Philon, Byron Jones are his type players......
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 12:40:18 pm

BP looks for misfits and the overlooked and puts them into a Marine Corps type system.....


Trey Flower, Philon, Byron Jones are his type players......

Lonnie Gosha, Vince Asoceles, That canadian kid who's name I forgot...

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Post by: johnny cash on September 27, 2017, 12:40:22 pm
this is day 1 of the aftermath. I am curious if more than just the Louisville duo lose their jobs today.

I expect to see lots of people fired in the coming days.
its going to get ugly.
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 12:40:27 pm
I have no difficulties picturing Auburn giving it a go.

Bigger question is would BP agree to their pay to play scheme?


You can bet the Gus bus is as dirty as they come
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 12:42:08 pm
Lonnie Gosha, Vince Asoceles, That canadian kid who's name I forgot...




Marquel Wade

BP take a 10 cent head kid like him and win ball games.
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Post by: mckinneyhog5 on September 27, 2017, 12:42:15 pm
If we had had Cam Newton in that Auburn game and they had had Mallett and Wilson, we win by two touchdowns and the NC that year.
Is that like your prediction that Okie State would be up on TCU 47-0 at halftime?
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:43:41 pm
Is that like your prediction that Okie State would be up on TCU 47-0 at halftime?

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/lol/VHFVT.gif)
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 12:44:44 pm
Is that like your prediction that Okie State would be up on TCU 47-0 at halftime?

No, it's more like the one where I said that TCU would walk in there and beat OSU down.  You know, made with the benefit of hindsight having seen what actually happened.
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 12:46:07 pm

Marquel Wade

BP take a 10 cent head kid like him and win ball games.

All I remember him doing is getting ejected from a game and leaving the school.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:46:59 pm
All I remember him doing is getting ejected from a game and leaving the school.

Flipped the crowd off while leaving
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 12:47:12 pm
If we had had Cam Newton in that Auburn game and they had had Mallett and Wilson, we win by two touchdowns and the NC that year.

You mean if we had the best college QB of his generation, we'd have won more games?

Go on.
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 12:51:18 pm
All I remember him doing is getting ejected from a game and leaving the school.


He got ejected for a hit on punt coverage.


Don't expect anyone on the current roster to get there in time for a penalty
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:52:40 pm

He got ejected for a hit on punt coverage.


Don't expect anyone on the current roster to get there in time for a penalty

I was ok with the hit. Looked like an honest mistake. The way he behaved while leaving the field made me want him kicked off the team. It was embarrassing.
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Post by: mckinneyhog5 on September 27, 2017, 12:53:04 pm
No, it's more like the one where I said that TCU would walk in there and beat OSU down.  You know, made with the benefit of hindsight having seen what actually happened.
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OSU scores 45 in the first half.

My reply
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Nope..ill be sure to look you up at halftime of that game.

Sorry, I misquoted you.
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 12:53:30 pm
I was ok with the hit. Looked like an honest mistake. The way he behaved while leaving the field made me want him kicked off the team. It was embarrassing.

I remember Veltkamp basically grabbing him by the scruff of his neck and dragging his ass back to the locker room.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 12:53:38 pm

He got ejected for a hit on punt coverage.


Don't expect anyone on the current roster to get there in time for a penalty

It's funny too.  I remember how everyone in the media and half the people on this board talked about how he was a bad kid and that it was evidence of dirty play under Petrino.  The A&M kid did the same thing the other day and it's crickets.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 12:55:14 pm
It's funny too.  I remember how everyone in the media and half the people on this board talked about how he was a bad kid and that it was evidence of dirty play under Petrino.  The A&M kid did the same thing the other day and it's crickets.


i maybe wrong but i am pretty sure the A&M kid didn't get dragged off the field firing the double one finger salute.
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 12:55:26 pm
I was ok with the hit. Looked like an honest mistake. The way he behaved while leaving the field made me want him kicked off the team. It was embarrassing.



Fair catch was called with 2 hand gestures, and the ball never even got to him.

That is the dirtiest hit by a hog player in my lifetime, probably.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:55:34 pm
It's funny too.  I remember how everyone in the media and half the people on this board talked about how he was a bad kid and that it was evidence of dirty play under Petrino.  The A&M kid did the same thing the other day and it's crickets.

You should go back and watch the 2 again.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 12:56:52 pm
Uhh


Fair catch was called with 2 hand gestures, and the ball never even got to him.

That is the dirtiest hit by a hog player in my lifetime, probably.

They way he celebrated after the hit was a clear indication that he thought he had made a good play. It is obvious to me that he did not see the fair catch signal.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 12:57:57 pm
They way he celebrated after the hit was a clear indication that he thought he had made a good play. It is obvious to me that he did not see the fair catch signal.

That was fricking awesome.  What I wouldn't give to have a team with players who had fire enough to screw up that badly today.
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 12:58:09 pm
It's funny too.  I remember how everyone in the media and half the people on this board talked about how he was a bad kid and that it was evidence of dirty play under Petrino.  The A&M kid did the same thing the other day and it's crickets.


If he'd been premed he'd have never hit anyone that hard.....
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 12:58:32 pm
That was fricking awesome.  What I wouldn't give to have a team with players who had fire enough to screw up that badly today.

Ridiculous.
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 12:59:04 pm
They way he celebrated after the hit was a clear indication that he thought he had made a good play. It is obvious to me that he did not see the fair catch signal.

If he thought he made a good play then he didn't have any understanding of the game of football.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 01:00:36 pm
Ridiculous.

Some of you jacklegs act like you think it is just coincidence that Razorback team virtually willed its way to victory on that day in Nashville after playing terribly for pretty much the whole day and this team we have now falls all over itself looking for ways to lose games.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:07:34 pm
https://twitter.com/TimesRecord/status/913096909715382272

Oklahoma State assistant coach surrenders to authorities in bribery case
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 01:10:30 pm
Neither we nor anyone else should be crowing about this.  Nike's records just got subpoenaed on this as well.

There is no telling where this ends up.  This could be an all out assault on the very structure of the NCAA itself.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:11:51 pm
Some of you jacklegs act like you think it is just coincidence that Razorback team virtually willed its way to victory on that day in Nashville after playing terribly for pretty much the whole day and this team we have now falls all over itself looking for ways to lose games.

I disagree. I have seen plenty of games where CBB teams have fought tooth and nail to win a game, even if falling just short. If you didn't watch the BA vs Dak game in total awe you missed a great moment in sports history. That entire game was a highlight reel of 2 teams that simply refused to lose. It was a shame either team had to.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:12:57 pm
Neither we nor anyone else should be crowing about this.  Nike's records just got subpoenaed on this as well.

There is no telling where this ends up.  This could be an all out assault on the very structure of the NCAA itself.

The NCAA needs to be in the crosshairs since this happened on their watch. The fact that the FBI had to blow this up while the NCAA sits there as much a spectator as the rest of us speaks volumes.
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 01:13:21 pm
Some of you jacklegs act like you think it is just coincidence that Razorback team virtually willed its way to victory on that day in Nashville after playing terribly for pretty much the whole day and this team we have now falls all over itself looking for ways to lose games.


Franklin scored on fumble recovery to flip the game....

That team got better every game after that win.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 01:14:31 pm
I disagree. I have seen plenty of games where CBB teams have fought tooth and nail to win a game, even if falling just short. If you didn't watch the BA vs Dak game in total awe you missed a great moment in sports history. That entire game was a highlight reel of 2 teams that simply refused to lose. It was a shame either team had to.

It is a fact of life.  Losers lose, even when trying hard.  Winners win, even when they don't have their best days. 

The difference is in attitude and preparation to win.
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 01:14:42 pm

Franklin scored on fumble recovery to flip the game....

That team got better every game after that win.

The Ole Miss game would like a word.

Edit: The OM game was the week before. That was a bad 2 game stretch lol. Nevermind.
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 01:14:45 pm
I disagree. I have seen plenty of games where CBB teams have fought tooth and nail to win a game, even if falling just short. If you didn't watch the BA vs Dak game in total awe you missed a great moment in sports history. That entire game was a highlight reel of 2 teams that simply refused to lose. It was a shame either team had to.


Just like ATM vs Arkansas


The attack team wins while the play not to lose unit comes up just short.....
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Post by: hogsanity on September 27, 2017, 01:14:52 pm
It is being reported on radio that Pitino met with the board for less than 3 minutes before being fired. This might have death penalty possibilities.

NCAA will never give the death penalty to a p5, probably not to any fbs level school in either football or basketball again. Too much $ involved.
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Post by: IronHog on September 27, 2017, 01:15:40 pm
The Ole Miss game would like a word.


Dennis Johnson was there......it was ok
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:17:34 pm
NCAA will never give the death penalty to a p5, probably not to any fbs level school in either football or basketball again. Too much $ involved.

NCAA may not have a choice. This thing may envelope the NCAA to.
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Post by: wachhog on September 27, 2017, 01:18:15 pm
Enumerate and explain Petrino's list of NCAA infractions.
Nobody has ever accused him of cheating. Word is he wants out of Louisville after Jurich. Wait for it; he will soon be coaching against us in the SEC.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:19:28 pm
Nobody has ever accused him of cheating. Word is he wants out of Louisville after Jurich. Wait for it; he will soon be coaching against us in the SEC.

His all world QB is also gone after this year i would assume so yeah good time to leave.
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Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 01:20:19 pm
Remember, lying to a federal investigator is a crime.  There are going to be some big scalps nailed to the wall over this simply because some people may have talked to federal agents when they simply should have shut up.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:20:55 pm
His all world QB is also gone after this year i would assume so yeah good time to leave.

Fits the 4 year timeline too amirite?
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:21:32 pm
i know one thing the FBI better eat it's wheaties because they got alot of irons in the fire in terms of investigations.

Corruption doesn't sleep obviously
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 01:31:57 pm
His all world QB is also gone after this year i would assume so yeah good time to leave.

So will Strong's defensive recruits. 
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:34:07 pm
Fits the 4 year timeline too amirite?

nailed it
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 01:35:51 pm
Jawon Pass - UL's next star QB
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2016/jawon-pass-310
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 01:39:23 pm
NCAA may not have a choice. This thing may envelope the NCAA to.

Baylor and PSU didn't get one, so Louisville ain't getting one.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 01:41:16 pm
His all world QB is also gone after this year i would assume so yeah good time to leave.
The qb he found, signed, and coached to a Heisman you mean?  Damn that Petrino gets lucky, as our program melts down.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:42:46 pm
The qb he found, signed, and coached to a Heisman you mean?  Damn that Petrino gets lucky, as our program melts down.

tell me the odds of finding, coaching more than one Heisman QB's in a coaches lifetime?

dude was also a 3 star yall hate 3star players don't ya White

Also how many championships so far?
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 01:43:12 pm
The qb he found, signed, and coached to a Heisman you mean?  Damn that Petrino gets lucky, as our program melts down.

Coached to a Hesiman and a 9-4 record.
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 01:46:50 pm
The qb he found, signed, and coached to a Heisman you mean?  Damn that Petrino gets lucky, as our program melts down.

BP didn't find him and had to be begged to sign. 
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 01:47:12 pm
Coached to a Hesiman and a 9-4 record.

In arguably the toughest conference in CFB.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:48:48 pm
In arguably the toughest conference in CFB.

Is every conference the toughest conference in CFB ? i mean really there has to be at least 3 of them at this point.

that 5 star kid is probably amazing, but odds tell me you cannot have 2 Heisman QB's so based on that alone something will go wrong with this, the success level will not be as high.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:49:37 pm
In arguably the toughest conference in CFB.

In all fairness, 3 of those losses were outside the conference. Houston, Kentucky and an interim coached LSU
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 01:49:39 pm
Is every conference the toughest conference in CFB ? i mean really there has to be at least 3 of them at this point.

that 5 star kid is probably amazing, but odds tell me you cannot have 2 Heisman QB's so based on that alone something will go wrong with this, the success level will not be as high.

IF he stays at UL (big if), I'd wager that his level of success stays pretty darn high.
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 01:50:52 pm
In all fairness, 3 of those losses were outside the conference. Houston, Kentucky and an interim coached LSU

The UK loss is bad, for sure. 
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:51:03 pm
IF he stays at UL (big if), I'd wager that his level of success stays pretty darn high.

i would think it stays where it always has been, this of course unless the University as a whole ends up being unilaterally punished for this FBI situation.
I am just saying while you point out he does have a 5 star QB on the way i am saying that the law of averages come into play IE Heisman don't strike twice.
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 01:51:56 pm
i would think it stays where it always has been, this of course unless the University as a whole ends up being unilaterally punished for this FBI situation.
I am just saying while you point out he does have a 5 star QB on the way i am saying that the law of averages come into play IE Heisman don't strike twice.

His QB doesn't have to be a Heisman winner for them to have a high level of success.  They just have to be able to run Petrino's offense.
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Post by: Razorbackers on September 27, 2017, 01:52:59 pm
In arguably the toughest conference in CFB.

ehhh

They played 3 ranked teams all year, 1 of which was LSU in their bowl game that they lost.

They did beat FSU though.

They also lost to Kentucky.

Their division is certainly tougher than folks around here would give them credit for, but they still get Syracuse, Wake, and BC in that lineup every year.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:53:05 pm
His QB doesn't have to be a Heisman winner for them to have a high level of success.  They just have to be able to run Petrino's offense.

Bingo
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 01:53:52 pm
tell me the odds of finding, coaching more than one Heisman QB's in a coaches lifetime?

Also how many championships so far?
Tell me the odds of having one genius... If he leaves LV, it sure won't be because he can't coach up another QB. Wish you worried as much about Bert's failure as CBP's success. If winning a CFB is your baseline, things around here are worse than can be imagined.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:54:49 pm
His QB doesn't have to be a Heisman winner for them to have a high level of success.  They just have to be able to run Petrino's offense.

While this is true, watching them play it seems like his QB carries an awful lot of the burden for this offense.  I am simply saying that i would not expect him to get near the same level of production from the QB spot, that just on the simply law of averages that you will not get Heisman level production even if the kid is a 5 star recruit.

While i am pretty sure he will beat every team he is supposed to, and probably win 8 to 10 games just like always.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 01:56:05 pm
Tell me the odds of having one genius... If he leaves LV, it sure won't be because he can't coach up another QB. Wish you worried as much about Bert's failure as CBP's success. If winning a CFB is your baseline, things around here are worse than can be imagined.

thanks for making my point White.
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 01:57:22 pm
While this is true, watching them play it seems like his QB carries an awful lot of the burden for this offense.  I am simply saying that i would not expect him to get near the same level of production from the QB spot, that just on the simply law of averages that you will not get Heisman level production even if the kid is a 5 star recruit.

While i am pretty sure he will beat every team he is supposed to, and probably win 8 to 10 games just like always.

Something that should also be mentioned is that he's altered his offense a little to suit the skill-set of Jackson.  He'd do the same thing for the next kid.  Petrino gets the most out of the talent that he's got.

Also, 8-10 wins/year sounds incredible.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 01:59:12 pm
BP didn't find him and had to be begged to sign.
Guess you in the room then huh and heard the whole conversation ? regardless, he signed him, coached, and he won the Heisman.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 02:00:01 pm
thanks for making my point White.
Only in your own mind Black.
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 02:00:07 pm
Guess you in the room then huh and heard the whole conversation ? regardless, he signed him, coached, and he won the Heisman.

Do you take that same approach when acknowledging that JL hired him?
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:00:16 pm
Something that should also be mentioned is that he's altered his offense a little to suit the skill-set of Jackson.  He'd do the same thing for the next kid.  Petrino gets the most out of the talent that he's got.

Also, 8-10 wins/year sounds incredible.

of course it does, but i am not accepting 8 to 10 wins a year if the cost is letting my coach behave the way he did will here at Arkansas.  Which is why White Goodman will be along shortly to chastise me.

I want my diploma to be worth something and i am not trading it for 8 to 10 wins a year.
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Post by: Next1_04 on September 27, 2017, 02:04:15 pm
Guess you in the room then huh and heard the whole conversation ? regardless, he signed him, coached, and he won the Heisman.

Little guy is really starting to poke out now. Better calm down it down so you don't get sticky.
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 02:04:50 pm
of course it does, but i am not accepting 8 to 10 wins a year if the cost is letting my coach behave the way he did will here at Arkansas.  Which is why White Goodman will be along shortly to chastise me.

I want my diploma to be worth something and i am not trading it for 8 to 10 wins a year.

Understand, I'm not saying we shouldn't have fired him.  He completely deserved it.  I just view his time at Arkansas as a positive, and don't feel the need to discredit his coaching now that he's gone.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 02:06:18 pm
Do you take that same approach when acknowledging that JL hired him?
What are you even talking about? I don't know how coaching a qb relates to anything JL did or did not do.
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 02:07:28 pm
thanks for making my point White.
If that is your point, then you had already made it. I think you need to be clearer on the points you want to make. It seemed as though you were somehow saying that our current coach CBB is better than Louisville's coach CBP. 
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:08:45 pm
Understand, I'm not saying we shouldn't have fired him.  He completely deserved it.  I just view his time at Arkansas as a positive, and don't feel the need to discredit his coaching now that he's gone.

I also view his time here as a positive and he is positively a genius offensive coach.  I am not discrediting him at all, we were talking because the blocks are there, he does typically seem to move around alot, he just lost his AD, his school is the first in the cross hairs of a huge investigation, his Heisman QB is going etc.

Just acknowledging that if he was going to leave soon would not be surprising.
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Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 02:09:20 pm
I also view his time here as a positive and he is positively a genius offensive coach.  I am not discrediting him at all, we were talking because the blocks are there, he does typically seem to move around alot, he just lost his AD, his school is the first in the cross hairs of a huge investigation, his Heisman QB is going etc.

Just acknowledging that if he was going to leave soon would not be surprising.

Oh, well I totally agree with that.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:10:07 pm
If that is your point, then you had already made it. I think you need to be clearer on the points you want to make. It seemed as though you were somehow saying that our current coach CBB is better than Louisville's coach CBP. 

White Goodman did you log onto another account ? lol

My point was that his 5 star all world recruit coming in will not win the Heisman.  That is it nothing to do with CBB i haven't even mentioned his name in 4 pages of posts until right now.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 02:10:39 pm
Little guy is really starting to poke out now. Better calm down it down so you don't get sticky.
Not this time.
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 02:15:22 pm
I also view his time here as a positive and he is positively a genius offensive coach.  I am not discrediting him at all, we were talking because the blocks are there, he does typically seem to move around alot, he just lost his AD, his school is the first in the cross hairs of a huge investigation, his Heisman QB is going etc.

Just acknowledging that if he was going to leave soon would not be surprising.
If you would have said this, like this, we would have never had a disagreement.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:18:15 pm
If you would have said this, like this, we would have never had a disagreement.

i been saying this like this since the beginning.  I have a vested interest in the University of Arkansas beyond football.  I loved CBP as a coach and i loved the time he was here i really thought he could do it, get us over the hump and to Atlanta, but he totally let me down that day with the bike wreck and the mistress/uofa employee fiasco.   

My personal opinion is that i would not trade my schools reputation for success on the field.  Others may not agree.  This case was as clear as you can be of either we take the reputation hit and keep CBP or our on the field success will take a hit.  I am totally fine with the choice that was made.
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 02:21:22 pm
White Goodman did you log onto another account ? lol

My point was that his 5 star all world recruit coming in will not win the Heisman.  That is it nothing to do with CBB i haven't even mentioned his name in 4 pages of posts until right now.
So what?  how many Heisman trophies do they give away each year?  How many 5 star all world recruits do we have coming in?
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Post by: Redhogs on September 27, 2017, 02:23:53 pm
i been saying this like this since the beginning.  I have a vested interest in the University of Arkansas beyond football.  I loved CBP as a coach and i loved the time he was here i really thought he could do it, get us over the hump and to Atlanta, but he totally let me down that day with the bike wreck and the mistress/uofa employee fiasco.   

My personal opinion is that i would not trade my schools reputation for success on the field.  Others may not agree.  This case was as clear as you can be of either we take the reputation hit and keep CBP or our on the field success will take a hit.  I am totally fine with the choice that was made.
It's all good...i do think you can keep a good reputation AND win, we just have to find the right coach...granted, it's getting harder and harder with the world as it is now.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:25:20 pm
It's all good...i do think you can keep a good reputation AND win, we just have to find the right coach...granted, it's getting harder and harder with the world as it is now.

Oh i totally agree here as well, just in that particular situation with Petrino and what happened it was a definite either or situation, both was not possible.

There has to be a coach out there that can win and not turn your rep to crap
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 02:27:27 pm
i been saying this like this since the beginning.  I have a vested interest in the University of Arkansas beyond football.  I loved CBP as a coach and i loved the time he was here i really thought he could do it, get us over the hump and to Atlanta, but he totally let me down that day with the bike wreck and the mistress/uofa employee fiasco.   

My personal opinion is that i would not trade my schools reputation for success on the field.  Others may not agree.  This case was as clear as you can be of either we take the reputation hit and keep CBP or our on the field success will take a hit.  I am totally fine with the choice that was made.
Its so funny that we (UA)are the ONLY school saying that our "integrity" reputation would have suffered had we retained CBP.  Keep believing that, and everything else JL feeds you, if it makes you feel better about our mediocre program.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:27:50 pm
So what?  how many Heisman trophies do they give away each year?  How many 5 star all world recruits do we have coming in?

will go real slow for you.  Question was would CBP leave Louisville now that all these things are happening, one of those "things" was his Heisman QB is surely leaving after this season, this is the same QB that is basically carrying that team right now, it is not a stretch to think that the QB play next year at Louisville will go down, another poster linked their 5 star QB commit, which is great i simply said that the odds of a coach finding 1 Heisman trophy winner QB are astronomical which pretty much makes finding 2 much less back to back .000000000000000000000000001% meaning it isn't going to happen it is as close to a certainty in this world as you are going to get.

Nothing to do with "us" nothing to do with CBB.
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:28:52 pm
Its so funny that we (UA)are the ONLY school saying that our "integrity" reputation would have suffered had we retained CBP.  Keep believing that, and everything else JL feeds you, if it makes you feel better about our mediocre program.

only an idiot would not recognize that our reputation would take a hit if he stayed. Hell man our reputation took a hit when he CAME to the school, before the bike/mistress thing even happened.....
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 02:35:54 pm
Its so funny that we (UA)are the ONLY school saying that our "integrity" reputation would have suffered had we retained CBP.  Keep believing that, and everything else JL feeds you, if it makes you feel better about our mediocre program.

Not the only.  If we were the only one who worried about it BP wouldn't have had to go to WKU.  Tenn, AU, NC St, Purdue all hired coaches that year. 
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 02:43:34 pm
only an idiot would not recognize that our reputation would take a hit if he stayed. Hell man our reputation took a hit when he CAME to the school, before the bike/mistress thing even happened.....
I would say that only an idiot resorts to name calling when they cannot support their argument, but unlike you, i can support my argument. Follow closely, and i will go slow for you:  All of the JL huggers have insisted that CBP was given the option, with conditions,  of being retained as our head coach but that CBP flinched.  So apparently Mr. Integrity himself didn't think that retaining CBP would impose this "integrity" hit (whatever your imagination thinks it is) that you believe only an idiot wouldn't see.  So, using your logic (or illogic) you believe that JL is an idiot.  There, we finally agree on something.
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 02:46:53 pm
Not the only.  If we were the only one who worried about it BP wouldn't have had to go to WKU.  Tenn, AU, NC St, Purdue all hired coaches that year. 
If you truly believe that Tennessee and Auburn are worried about their integrity, then you are naive.
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Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 02:50:38 pm
If you truly believe that Tennessee and Auburn are worried about their integrity, then you are naive.

Reputation wise.  I don't believe they truly practice it.  But they care some about the public perception.   
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Post by: 311Hog on September 27, 2017, 02:50:53 pm
I would say that only an idiot resorts to name calling when they cannot support their argument, but unlike you, i can support my argument. Follow closely, and i will go slow for you:  All of the JL huggers have insisted that CBP was given the option, with conditions,  of being retained as our head coach but that CBP flinched.  So apparently Mr. Integrity himself didn't think that retaining CBP would impose this "integrity" hit (whatever your imagination thinks it is) that you believe only an idiot wouldn't see.  So, using your logic (or illogic) you believe that JL is an idiot.  There, we finally agree on something.

holy crap man you cannot read.

IN MY OPINION do you understand that phrase? ok so you are with me now.

I MYSELF would not trade a reputation hit for wins period.

If CBP stayed after what happened it would have resulted in a reputation hit PERIOD there is no arguing this, i don't care what JL said, what CBP said what you say what anyone says.  If CBP got a slap on the wrist and was allowed to remain the head coach the University would have taken a reputation hit, on top off the one it took when the University hired CBP in the first place.

Was/is CBP a great offensive coach ? yes did he do really well here on the field? Yes  is he generally regarded as an a-hole by the public at large? yes is it universally accepted that hiring/working/having/paying/lying about a mistress at your job wrong? YES
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Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 02:54:17 pm
I would say that only an idiot resorts to name calling when they cannot support their argument, but unlike you, i can support my argument. Follow closely, and i will go slow for you:  All of the JL huggers have insisted that CBP was given the option, with conditions,  of being retained as our head coach but that CBP flinched.  So apparently Mr. Integrity himself didn't think that retaining CBP would impose this "integrity" hit (whatever your imagination thinks it is) that you believe only an idiot wouldn't see.  So, using your logic (or illogic) you believe that JL is an idiot.  There, we finally agree on something.

lol
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Post by: hogsanity on September 27, 2017, 03:10:40 pm
Whats i funny is only about 3 posters here are honest enough to say they are win at all cost, but many of you dance around it because you really are win at all cost but know it makes you look like a slimeball. You claim not to be yet you deride Long because you think doing things the right way is a loser mentality, or that integrity does not matter, or that as long as a coach wins games he can do whatever he wants.

Jurich at Ul lay down with dogs and got their fleas.
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Post by: jkstock04 on September 27, 2017, 03:17:10 pm
Jawon Pass - UL's next star QB
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2016/jawon-pass-310
This can't be. According to most everything I read on here he would never be able to recruit good players ever again. "Moms in the living rooms" would despise him too much.
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Post by: Inhogswetrust on September 27, 2017, 03:41:00 pm
Way more fertile recruiting grounds.

PRJ

Saban is a MUCH better recruiter than BP.
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 03:48:30 pm
This can't be. According to most everything I read on here he would never be able to recruit good players ever again. "Moms in the living rooms" would despise him too much.
Yes but there's only a .000000000000000000001% chance that he will ever become a heisman.
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 03:49:32 pm
holy crap man you cannot read.

IN MY OPINION do you understand that phrase? ok so you are with me now.

I MYSELF would not trade a reputation hit for wins period.

If CBP stayed after what happened it would have resulted in a reputation hit PERIOD there is no arguing this, i don't care what JL said, what CBP said what you say what anyone says.  If CBP got a slap on the wrist and was allowed to remain the head coach the University would have taken a reputation hit, on top off the one it took when the University hired CBP in the first place.

Was/is CBP a great offensive coach ? yes did he do really well here on the field? Yes  is he generally regarded as an a-hole by the public at large? yes is it universally accepted that hiring/working/having/paying/lying about a mistress at your job wrong? YES
I'm glad to know that it is just your OPINION.
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Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2017, 04:16:35 pm
This can't be. According to most everything I read on here he would never be able to recruit good players ever again. "Moms in the living rooms" would despise him too much.

Maybe he got a basketball scholarship, lol. I hope when Bielema leaves that they ban anyone that mentions any former coaches. It adds absolutely nothing to any discussion and just ends up being pissing contests. Neither will ever be coming back, and throw Hootie in there too.
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Post by: Martygit on September 27, 2017, 04:22:33 pm
Thread fail

Uh, okay........... ::)
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Post by: jkstock04 on September 27, 2017, 04:23:16 pm
Maybe he got a basketball scholarship, lol. I hope when Bielema leaves that they ban anyone that mentions any former coaches. It adds absolutely nothing to any discussion and just ends up being pissing contests. Neither will ever be coming back, and throw Hootie in there too.
It would be tough to have any scale of comparisons if you couldn't bring up former coaches. Kind of faulty logic...I guess nothing to ever be said about Frank Broyles again?

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Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2017, 04:27:51 pm
It would be tough to have any scale of comparisons if you couldn't bring up former coaches. Kind of faulty logic...I guess nothing to ever be said about Frank Broyles again?



Well, if you like to dwell in the past, I guess that's your prerogative. It has nothing to do with the current team, but by all means, carry on. Would you not say every year and every team is different?
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Post by: jabberjawls on September 27, 2017, 04:41:10 pm
Thread fail
Can you clarify -- is this opinion or fact?
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Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 28, 2017, 12:19:38 am
Saban is a MUCH better recruiter than BP.

You are correct....but...Bobby would still get top 10 recruiting classes at Auburn. Give dude top 10 classes year in and year out and watch what he would do.

PRJ
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Post by: Pig in the Pokey on September 28, 2017, 12:23:32 am
That's interesting.  I was unaware of that little clause.  While we are "spit balling," I wonder what we will be saying if JL winds up as the AD at UL.  They obviously need a dose of integrity.
then he could fire petrino again lmao!
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Post by: jcbville on September 28, 2017, 10:39:33 am
Pitino just named as coach-2 funneling money to recruit. He gone.
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Post by: IronHog on September 28, 2017, 11:52:56 am
Saban is a MUCH better recruiter than BP.


He's coached at LSU and Bama.  Your grandma could recruit to those programs.
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Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 03, 2017, 05:36:45 pm

He's coached at LSU and Bama.  Your grandma could recruit to those programs.

Guess again. Hows LSU doing now and how did Bama do with Shula or even with a few others.................. Not including interims or such (Bo Rein died before coaching a game and Mike Riley didn't either for Bama) four of the last ten LSU coaches did not have a win percentage over .600 and four of the last ten Bama coaches didn't have a win percentage over .600.