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Title: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 26, 2017, 09:32:27 pm
BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.

Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: IronMountainHog on September 26, 2017, 09:39:29 pm
42-38>10-23
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: ballz2thewall on September 26, 2017, 09:39:38 pm
where's the fun in that?
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 26, 2017, 09:57:00 pm
where's the fun in that?

We watch our beloved hogs succeed
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: jgphillips3 on September 26, 2017, 10:05:52 pm
Your lack of faith disturbs me...
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: ShadowHawg on September 26, 2017, 10:06:45 pm
42-38>10-23

They actually had a head to head matchup with both coaching their best teams.

Who won? I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hawgon on September 26, 2017, 10:08:28 pm
They actually had a head to head matchup with both coaching their best teams.

Who won? I'll hang up and listen.

Which team had its best player at about 75% with a hamstring?  I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: farmhawg on September 26, 2017, 10:10:49 pm
We watch our beloved hogs succeed
But they arenít.....
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Oklahawg on September 26, 2017, 10:10:58 pm
Amen.

I am with you 100%.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: grayhawg on September 26, 2017, 10:13:10 pm
Your lack of faith disturbs me...
I want him gone yesterday, but we can cry, threaten or spread rumors and it won't work. Hate it but dj is right, let it play out there is a scenario that might get him fired so like the man says let it play out
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 10:14:31 pm
BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.



The players were supported in 2006 and 2007. Whole heartedly. To suggest that because Nutt was a scumbag and Bret isnt, that this is different..and this time we need to support the players....they were supported last time.

The problem this time is the AD. Hide and watch.

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: VirginiaHog on September 26, 2017, 10:15:38 pm
Amen.

I am with you 100%.
This
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hehawg on September 26, 2017, 10:16:55 pm
BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.

 Nobody cares if you are a "darksider"......
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: longpig on September 26, 2017, 10:29:27 pm
Gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette.  It's better in the long run for the players, fans, spirit of Frank Broyles if this season goes horribly.  The roster is loaded with talent that lots of coaches (not named Bielema) could instantly win 9 games with.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 26, 2017, 10:29:35 pm
Nobody cares if you are a "darksider"......

listen carefully - I've been there done that - you SHOULD CARE

Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: farmhawg on September 26, 2017, 10:30:44 pm
Smh.
Sad.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 26, 2017, 10:31:18 pm
Amen.

I am with you 100%.

Peace OKLA

This is a NEW dawn.....
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Arkansas Traveler on September 26, 2017, 10:32:48 pm
To this point, Bielema is a good football coach, a good man, who made a poor career move. He wasn't the first to do that, and he won't be the last. Happens across all professions.

As long as he is our football coach, I hope he does well. I would like nothing better than for us to correct the issues that have us at 1-2 and have a good season. Even if we don't, nothing will or even should happen before Thanksgiving weekend. When Bret (as all coaches do) decides to leave on his own or is terminated, I will wish him well and look forward to the coaching search.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 10:33:40 pm
Smh.
Sad.

There are a whole bunch of them that are "all in" with this regime. 

Handle this situation tenderly...

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 26, 2017, 10:36:45 pm
To this point, Bielema is a good football coach, a good man, who made a poor career move. He wasn't the first to do that, and he won't be the last. Happens across all professions.

As long as he is our football coach, I hope he does well. I would like nothing better than for us to correct the issues that have us at 1-2 and have a good season. Even if we don't, nothing will or even should happen before Thanksgiving weekend. When Bret (as all coaches do) decides to leave on his own or is terminated, I will wish him well and look forward to the coaching search.

YES.  No need to be ways be dysfunctional bc of  Dale.  GO HOGS
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: farmhawg on September 26, 2017, 10:37:33 pm
There are a whole bunch of them that are "all in" with this regime. 

Handle this situation tenderly...

PRJ
Just funny they sell out the program because they like how someone speaks. So much for judging based on their results. Guess itís the everyone gets atrophy crowd that has screwed everything up. Oh well.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 10:41:44 pm
Just funny they sell out the program because they like how someone speaks. So much for judging based on their results. Guess itís the everyone gets atrophy crowd that has screwed everything up. Oh well.

Yes indeed. They can't admit he is in overy his head. His old boss yesterday admitted in a round about way that he was in over his head. A good coach would spot, after 5 years, what he can do and can't do with a team...same ole, same Ole of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It ain't gonna work. It is never gonna work.

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Hogs run wild on September 26, 2017, 10:42:10 pm
when dale nutt was here, we believed the lie. we didn't know it until it had been 10 years that we had been bamboozled. we have to be smarter than that.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 10:42:54 pm
Just funny they sell out the program because they like how someone speaks. So much for judging based on their results. Guess itís the everyone gets atrophy crowd that has screwed everything up. Oh well.

And it has been apparent for 5 years they are Bielema supporters to the very end.

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 10:44:23 pm
when dale nutt was here, we believed the lie. we didn't know it until it had been 10 years that we had been bamboozled. we have to be smarter than that.

Naw...it was way before 10 years for some of us with Hooten. But alot here have taken Bret's bait hook, line and sinker...and they hit hard...

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 26, 2017, 10:49:17 pm
Yes indeed. They can't admit he is in overy his head. His old boss yesterday admitted in a round about way that he was in over his head. A good coach would spot, after 5 years, what he can do and can't do with a team...same ole, same Ole of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It ain't gonna work. It is never gonna work.

PRJ

PRJ let me tell it how it is..


I appreciated u interviewing Nutt on the field..thank u

but beyond that...

You've brought NOTHNING to the table NADA home-goatinging-wearing brotha NOTHING to the table:

BB is a GOOD coach.  He has not produced here so he must go.  He is NOT a vindictive soul, he will go with much future  no need for Darksider schtick so LET IT GO
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Wildhog on September 26, 2017, 10:52:39 pm
Man, y'all could throw the ball clear over them mountains in 2007.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 11:00:11 pm
PRJ let me tell it how it is..


I appreciated u interviewing Nutt on the field..thank u

but beyond that...

You've brought NOTHNING to the table NADA home-goatinging-wearing brotha NOTHING to the table:

BB is a GOOD coach.  He has not produced here so he must go.  He is NOT a vindictive soul, he will go with much future  no need for Darksider schtick so LET IT GO

LMAO....What exactly do or have you brought? Jacksquat...jacksquat.

You can run that good coach all day long. He was propped up by Barry at Whisky and there isn't anybody here to prop him up.

I tell ya what...point to me where, in 5 years this guy has shown a knack to adust to a game? Show me one. Show me where this guy, gameplans, outschemes, outworks, out adjusts and flat outcoaches another coach? You can't because it ain't happened...and isn't going to happen.

You run in here, just like you used too...wave your wand around and expect the crowd to quiet...there is not a single soul on here that has even mentioned going Nutty on Bret. Not one. There has not been an outpouring of outright hatred and disdain for Bret like there was Houston. NOT.A.BIT...and here is the best part....THERE.ISNT.GOING.TO.BE any movement toward that.

But you gotta create the illusion don't you?

Bravo Swaggart.

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hogblitz on September 26, 2017, 11:05:51 pm
I would disagree strongly that he was ever a GOOD Coach!  Is it NOT apparent by now that he was nothing more than a figure head? Geez.    Alvarez runs that team PERIOD.  Always has. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Jimbob111 on September 26, 2017, 11:09:40 pm
BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.



But BB IS vindictive. You can't tell me he doesn't pick favorites. Froholdt is a prime example. Beliema WANTS him to play regardless of competition at his position or Froholdt's ability at the position.

BB most certainly plays favorites, which is being vindictive to players that he doesn't like as much. You can't tell me that Clary is better at that position than a player who started multiple games last season. There is reason the offensive line is a wreck. Coaches talk about chemistry. You can't have chemistry when the entire line knows that you're only playing because you're teacher's pet.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: longpig on September 26, 2017, 11:10:08 pm
I would disagree strongly that he was ever a GOOD Coach!  Is it NOT apparent by now that he was nothing more than a figure head? Geez.    Alvarez runs that team PERIOD.  Always has.

No kiddn.  While at Arkansas he's had as  many or more embarrassing losses as he's had impressive wins, thrown multiple assistant coaches and players under the bus, flopped on national tv, suckered millions of fans into staying on.............
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 26, 2017, 11:10:23 pm
To this point, Bielema is a good football coach, a good man, who made a poor career move. He wasn't the first to do that, and he won't be the last. Happens across all professions.

As long as he is our football coach, I hope he does well. I would like nothing better than for us to correct the issues that have us at 1-2 and have a good season. Even if we don't, nothing will or even should happen before Thanksgiving weekend. When Bret (as all coaches do) decides to leave on his own or is terminated, I will wish him well and look forward to the coaching search.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Wildhog on September 26, 2017, 11:11:04 pm
I would disagree strongly that he was ever a GOOD Coach!  Is it NOT apparent by now that he was nothing more than a figure head? Geez.    Alvarez runs that team PERIOD.  Always has. 

I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 26, 2017, 11:13:48 pm
I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.

Agree
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Michael_E_Davis on September 26, 2017, 11:16:32 pm
42-38>10-23

SEC now>SEC then
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hogblitz on September 26, 2017, 11:20:00 pm
I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.
I suspect people would be surprised on how much Alvarez was/is involved in day to day operations of that team.  I think in many ways he has stayed the head coach. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: bphi11ips on September 26, 2017, 11:22:37 pm
Amen.

I am with you 100%.

Count me in.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: longpig on September 26, 2017, 11:23:35 pm
I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.


Every program in the SECW is a tough place to win 10 or more a year, even Bama.  It's not just tough for Arkansas.  No excuse for not consistently winning 3 or 4 renters and 4 to 6 conference games most all seasons.  Apparently the stories are true about Alvarez making it work at Wisconsin for him. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: tusked on September 26, 2017, 11:23:54 pm


I think hogville needs a 'circle of trust'
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Wildhog on September 26, 2017, 11:30:13 pm

Every program in the SECW is a tough place to win 10 or more a year, even Bama.  It's not just tough for Arkansas.  No excuse for not consistently winning 3 or 4 renters and 4 to 6 conference games most all seasons.  Apparently the stories are true about Alvarez making it work at Wisconsin for him. 

He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 11:34:03 pm
He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.

Being a good coach doesn't translate into being a "good" head coach. He is in over his head here. And that is just the way it is. Heck, I thought at one time Gus was a great coach. He was...as an OC. As a head coach...? Not worth a piss.

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hogblitz on September 26, 2017, 11:36:17 pm
He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.
I would agree he was probably a good coordinator.  Those do not always make good head coaches. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Wildhog on September 26, 2017, 11:36:49 pm
Being a good coach doesn't translate into being a "good" head coach. He is in over his head here. And that is just the way it is. Heck, I thought at one time Gus was a great coach. He was...as an OC. As a head coach...? Not worth a piss.

PRJ

Jesus Christ, Jimmy, I've been saying that for years now. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on September 26, 2017, 11:37:11 pm
There are a whole bunch of them that are "all in" with this regime. 

Handle this situation tenderly...

PRJ
You want BB fired? I say we fire you...
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: bphi11ips on September 26, 2017, 11:40:40 pm
SEC now>SEC then

Danny Ford > Smiley
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 11:44:50 pm
You want BB fired? I say we fire you...


Oh My...I have angered the head of the pom pom squad...what will I ever do. You get to preform that routine you and the boys worked up last week at Jerry place?

I tell you what McKinney...I will let you convince me that the guy should stay. Point out to me where he actually shows he is the right coach for this program. Tell me where his schemes are good. Where player development excells. Tell me of the great moves he has made during the game.

Instead of running on here bumping your gums...for once, convince me he is the dude. Tell me of his virtue. I bet you cant.

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 26, 2017, 11:48:29 pm
Jesus Christ, Jimmy, I've been saying that for years now. 

Lol...well, you were right....

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: zsanfusa on September 26, 2017, 11:50:34 pm
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ARK > Where_we_are.txt
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on September 26, 2017, 11:53:25 pm

Oh My...I have angered the head of the pom pom squad...what will I ever do. You get to preform that routine you and the boys worked up last week at Jerry place?

I tell you what McKinney...I will let you convince me that the guy should stay. Point out to me where he actually shows he is the right coach for this program. Tell me where his schemes are good. Where player development excells. Tell me of the great moves he has made during the game.

Instead of running on here bumping your gums...for once, convince me he is the dude. Tell me of his virtue. I bet you cant.

PRJ
He's staying at a minimum to the end of the year no matter how much you bitch. Adults will decide AFTER this season if its financially the correct move to replace him at that point. Calling for him to be fired now is unrealistic and does nothing but hurt the program. All I'm asking is to wait till the end of the season and then start the process. Nothing good will come of calling for his head now. Also, please keep in mind that we lost our #1 RB Williams and now our #1 receiver to injuries. That's a big deal rather you won't to admit it or not.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 27, 2017, 12:00:45 am
He's staying at a minimum to the end of the year no matter how much you bitch. Adults will decide AFTER this season if its financially the correct move to replace him at that point. Calling for him to be fired now is unrealistic and does nothing but hurt the program. I'll I'm asking is to wait till the end of the season and then start the process. Nothing good will come of calling for his head now.

So you cant? I feared as much.

He isn't getting fired before the end of the season, if it happens at all. You have to quit getting worked up everytime someone goes negative on him. This is a message board..for.fans...of Arkansas..there are going to be differing opinions...and some, after every loss mounts, are gonna call for him to be fired. Sad reality but it is gonna happen.

I know you are a Bret fan and this while deal is sobering for you and very hard to swallow...hell, maybe even breathe...but I am pulling for you McKinney. I really am.

Seriously...I know your heart is in the right place.

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on September 27, 2017, 12:11:59 am
So you cant? I feared as much.

He isn't getting fired before the end of the season, if it happens at all. You have to quit getting worked up everytime someone goes negative on him. This is a message board..for.fans...of Arkansas..there are going to be differing opinions...and some, after every loss mounts, are gonna call for him to be fired. Sad reality but it is gonna happen.

I know you are a Bret fan and this while deal is sobering for you and very hard to swallow...hell, maybe even breathe...but I am pulling for you McKinney. I really am.

Seriously...I know your heart is in the right place.

PRJ
I'm not a Bret fan nor was I a BP fan and heavens knows I wasn't a Nutt fan. I'm a Razorback fan and will be regardless of who the coach is. I rooted for BP when he was hired and all the media was dogging him. Do you know why? Because he took the job and was the leader of the team I love. If BB was fired tomorrow I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep. I'm also a realist and know now isn't the time for the team to have the fans turn on the team or the coaches. Sometimes you find light in the darkest hours. It's bad but the the hogs have done the most to make me proud in those situations, that's what I take pride in about calling myself a hog fan. This will all play out at the end of the season but for now and until they quit playing, they have my full support. Go hogs!
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: longpig on September 27, 2017, 12:12:25 am
He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.

I'd wager there have been more than a few D1 coaches that have walked away from a conversation with Bielema less than impressed.  When Enos and Rhoads said he was a hard worker they were really saying is bless his heart. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 27, 2017, 07:51:10 am
LMAO....What exactly do or have you brought? Jacksquat...jacksquat.

You can run that good coach all day long. He was propped up by Barry at Whisky and there isn't anybody here to prop him up.

I tell ya what...point to me where, in 5 years this guy has shown a knack to adust to a game? Show me one. Show me where this guy, gameplans, outschemes, outworks, out adjusts and flat outcoaches another coach? You can't because it ain't happened...and isn't going to happen.

You run in here, just like you used too...wave your wand around and expect the crowd to quiet...there is not a single soul on here that has even mentioned going Nutty on Bret. Not one. There has not been an outpouring of outright hatred and disdain for Bret like there was Houston. NOT.A.BIT...and here is the best part....THERE.ISNT.GOING.TO.BE any movement toward that.

But you gotta create the illusion don't you?

Bravo Swaggart.

PRJ

I apologize PRJ.  I got worked up over this whole mess.

Thank goodness it isn't what we went through in the Nutt era was my main point.  But you didn't deserve that.  I was wrong.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: rzrbaxfan on September 27, 2017, 08:15:56 am
Which team had its best player at about 75% with a hamstring?  I'll hang up and listen.

Best player down 25% and you can't win against a quality opponent....man I don't miss HDN.  Those were some dark days.  The only good thing that happened back then was when I got booted from Clay's board for posting Nutt's record against opponents that finished above .500 and I found Hogville.

Anyone that says BB is Nutt 2.0 didn't really know Nutt.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: DeltaBoy on September 27, 2017, 08:17:15 am
After some reflection I agree with our Leader of the Original Darksiders it time to wait and see and we need to focus on LONG.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 08:31:28 am
I suspect people would be surprised on how much Alvarez was/is involved in day to day operations of that team.  I think in many ways he has stayed the head coach.

I don't think as much as people who are attacking CBB claim. If it were true then the coach who replaced CBB there would have had success and not been run out of town. Their current coach was a CBB disciple and runs pretty much the same type program both CBB and BA ran there, which is why I think he is having success there. Andersen just didn't have it and Chryst does. Also, BA would have won the bowl game when CBB left if he had been the puppet master the whole time. Obviously this is just my opinion.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: lunchbox72703 on September 27, 2017, 08:32:00 am
Uh oh, the old timers are getting at it.  Now listen up, all you new people to Hogville.........When this happens, and the old timers start throwing message board jabs.....S Hit around here gets interesting!!!!

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Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 08:33:30 am
I would agree he was probably a good coordinator.  Those do not always make good head coaches.

Except, he did make a good HC at Wiscy.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 08:35:27 am

Oh My...I have angered the head of the pom pom squad...what will I ever do. You get to preform that routine you and the boys worked up last week at Jerry place?

I tell you what McKinney...I will let you convince me that the guy should stay. Point out to me where he actually shows he is the right coach for this program. Tell me where his schemes are good. Where player development excells. Tell me of the great moves he has made during the game.

Instead of running on here bumping your gums...for once, convince me he is the dude. Tell me of his virtue. I bet you cant.

PRJ

The only way I can be convinced he should stay is if he turns it around this year and rallies the team. If he can do that under the crushing weight of adversity he is currently enduring I would be impressed. However, I do not think that is going to happen.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 08:37:05 am
So you cant? I feared as much.

He isn't getting fired before the end of the season, if it happens at all. You have to quit getting worked up everytime someone goes negative on him. This is a message board..for.fans...of Arkansas..there are going to be differing opinions...and some, after every loss mounts, are gonna call for him to be fired. Sad reality but it is gonna happen.

I know you are a Bret fan and this while deal is sobering for you and very hard to swallow...hell, maybe even breathe...but I am pulling for you McKinney. I really am.

Seriously...I know your heart is in the right place.

PRJ

On the flip side, you have to stop getting worked up every time someone has something positive to say about him.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 08:38:46 am
I'd wager there have been more than a few D1 coaches that have walked away from a conversation with Bielema less than impressed.  When Enos and Rhoads said he was a hard worker they were really saying is bless his heart.

So youre saying they both took jobs under someone they weren't impressed with? That doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 08:42:14 am
He has never been a good coach HERE AT ARKANSAS.  From the first year he has made the same mistakes.

As for him being a good guy, I don't know.  None of us really do.  All any of us know about public figures is what they allow us to see.  And I'll add that the pressure hasn't been on yet either.  Nutt didn't go batshart crazy until the heat got turned up during the "two year pass".   

Regardless, when Bert is gone, I would bet on him talking about how hard it is to win and recruit at Arkansas instead of his own failures.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 08:43:27 am
Except, he did make a good HC at Wiscy.

Yep.  You don't have to discredit everything he ever did to acknowledge that he's not working out at Arkansas.  His record here speaks for itself.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: IronMountainHog on September 27, 2017, 08:43:58 am
Which team had its best player at about 75% with a hamstring?  I'll hang up and listen.
Joe Thomas was the best player and I had no idea he was 75%?
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Hogwild on September 27, 2017, 08:45:26 am
SEC now>SEC then

Sorry, but the SEC isn't what is used to be.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hawgon on September 27, 2017, 08:48:00 am
Joe Thomas was the best player and I had no idea he was 75%?

Hmm hmmm
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 08:50:06 am
Yep.  You don't have to discredit everything he ever did to acknowledge that he's not working out at Arkansas.  His record here speaks for itself.

His record here is depressing. However, he has in my opinion done what he needed to do to try to make adjustments. He hired Randy Shannon, which everyone knew was an excellent hire but only temporary because his heart was in Florida. He also hired the Chaney/Pittman duo which would have been good had Chaney just been serviceable since the payoff was having an excellent OL coach. Unfortunately, Chaney was not serviceable and Hogville was screaming for him to be fired. So, he fired him and hired Enos which turned out to be a quality hire. Problem is, we lost Pittman over it and I don't think he made a quality hire at OL when replacing him. He fired the DC and DL coach everyone on Hogville wanted fired, and I think CPR was an excellent choice for DC. Jury is still out on the DL Coach but its too early to tell. I like what we are doing in the 3-4 but it is still a new system and we are still learning there. You can't just install a new Defense and have it perfected in game 3.

He ran out of time before he could get it all right. This is unfortunate for us and him. But those that say he isn't putting in the effort are just making crap up out of frustration.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: hoghearted on September 27, 2017, 11:42:05 am
PRJ let me tell it how it is..


I appreciated u interviewing Nutt on the field..thank u

but beyond that...

You've brought NOTHNING to the table NADA home-goatinging-wearing brotha NOTHING to the table:

BB is a GOOD coach.  He has not produced here so he must go.  He is NOT a vindictive soul, he will go with much future  no need for Darksider schtick so LET IT GO

His record here says otherwise.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Oklahawg on September 27, 2017, 11:42:48 am
But BB IS vindictive. You can't tell me he doesn't pick favorites. Froholdt is a prime example. Beliema WANTS him to play regardless of competition at his position or Froholdt's ability at the position.

BB most certainly plays favorites, which is being vindictive to players that he doesn't like as much. You can't tell me that Clary is better at that position than a player who started multiple games last season. There is reason the offensive line is a wreck. Coaches talk about chemistry. You can't have chemistry when the entire line knows that you're only playing because you're teacher's pet.

You can't tell any of us jackshit because you aren't in practice to see what is happening. None of us are in practice.

I know this as a coach: I am going to go with what works in practice. If it doesn't work in a game maybe I'm lucky and have a reasonable plan B. But if Plan B didn't appear in practice why should I give it a chance in a game? Oh, yeah, because a message board poster said so, and probably knows better than me? Hell no.

We can be pissed that player evals of certain highly-coveted recruits didn't pan out. Or, that these players failed to develop at UA. We can speculate, some, that they might develop differently, even better, if at a different school...but that is a dangerous, and slipperly, slope to tread.

We can suggest that scheme or technique or whatever is a problem but at the end of the day why can some players do it and not others? It isn't scheme or technique if some do it but not others! It is on the players!! Or, if they were recruited by us, on us as recruiters.

I see the beef about Froholdt often, that he was gifted a spot. Well, is he better? Yes. Is he improving? A lot.
Brian Wallace was gifted a spot last year and now doesn't play because others have passed him on the depth chart. It is not like Wallace was the poster child of growth and development last year on HV. He struggled as much as Froholdt, and after having spent a career as an OL. Now, Froholdt has far fewer gaffes, looks like an SEC OL most of the time, and Wallace is still playing with his radio in practice in an attempt to figure it out.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Oklahawg on September 27, 2017, 11:43:37 am
On the flip side, you have to stop getting worked up every time someone has something positive to say about him.

Thank you.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 27, 2017, 11:44:19 am
Thank you.

Lol....
PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 11:47:18 am
BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.

Agreed.  I was as well.  This situation is different. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Hoggish1 on September 27, 2017, 12:07:47 pm
BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.



I heartily support this message ^ and ditto about the force...!
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: East TN HAWG on September 27, 2017, 01:07:38 pm
BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.
Another HDN darksider here.  You are 100% correct.  This is not the HDN situation.  Bret is a very likable guy, and has done a lot for the university.  He just has not had a DMAC or Matt Jones fall into his lap.  I wish him no ill will.

Part of the HDN problem is that the GOB network did not listen to the fan base.  If Long and company do the same thing, it could get as nasty.   
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: twistitup on September 27, 2017, 01:26:18 pm
He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.

Sometimes it is who you know....not what you know

You can call CBB a 'good' coach, I say - let his career determine that. He won at a program that was set up for him, he lost at a program where he had to create a system of his own.

Let's see how he does at his next stop - I'm not going to crown him (even as a good coach) until he proves himself outside of Madison.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:32:33 pm
Sometimes it is who you know....not what you know

You can call CBB a 'good' coach, I say - let his career determine that. He won at a program that was set up for him, he lost at a program where he had to create a system of his own.

Let's see how he does at his next stop - I'm not going to crown him (even as a good coach) until he proves himself outside of Madison.

Counts CBB's first year against him because it fits his agenda. Does Not give credit for his first HC job because it doesn't fit his agenda. Consistency is not the objective here for good ole twisty.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: twistitup on September 27, 2017, 01:34:42 pm
Counts CBB's first year against him because it fits his agenda. Does Not give credit for his first HC job because it doesn't fit his agenda. Consistency is not the objective here for good ole twisty.

Any major college football programs requires coaches turn programs around by year 5, that is very standard...hasn't happened here. Know that doesn't fit your agenda - but we are a major college football program and changes must be made if consistent improvement is not seen.

I wish him luck at his next stop.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Razor1997 on September 27, 2017, 01:42:24 pm
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ARK > Where_we_are.txt

wassup my fellow UNIX nerd
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 27, 2017, 01:55:09 pm
Any major college football programs requires coaches turn programs around by year 5, that is very standard...hasn't happened here. Know that doesn't fit your agenda - but we are a major college football program and changes must be made if consistent improvement is not seen.

I wish him luck at his next stop.

What is my agenda?
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Dr Carl aka Shorthog on September 27, 2017, 05:12:46 pm
This coming from the same guy that forgave Nutt when he was winning in 2006 and then wanted the team (kids and all) to lose in 2007 so Nutt would be fired?
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: PorkSoda on September 27, 2017, 05:16:34 pm
Just funny they sell out the program because they like how someone speaks. So much for judging based on their results. Guess itís the everyone gets atrophy crowd that has screwed everything up. Oh well.
man I hope I dont get atrophy
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Dr Carl aka Shorthog on September 27, 2017, 05:18:54 pm
SEC now>SEC then
Iím not so sure. The SEC has been down the last few years, hence the coaching turnover. Itís Bama then everyone else and has been for a while.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Dr Carl aka Shorthog on September 27, 2017, 05:19:26 pm
man I hope I dont get atrophy
Too late
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Wildhog on September 27, 2017, 05:21:44 pm
This coming from the same guy that forgave Nutt when he was winning in 2006 and then wanted the team (kids and all) to lose in 2007 so Nutt would be fired?

It's really best that we ignore the folks that only show up during the bad times, pining for internet message board drama and living in 2007.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: swinemaster on September 27, 2017, 05:28:14 pm
Lol....
PRJ

As of late, it appears that he is kind of a propped up coach by Alvarez.  And although I don't have much faith in him right now, I have been on this board long enough to know that it is beyond a waste of time to try and argue with a message board fan that is willing to confront a Div. 1 Head Coach in person.

Not sure if your priorities are in line. Just sayin.

The OP says let this play out.  He didn't say we should keep him or that he deserves to stay.  Yet you still attack.  Dayum it must suck to be you.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: KennyForAD on September 27, 2017, 05:29:51 pm
Nobody cares if you are a "darksider"......

Wrong.  I do.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Silver Hog on September 27, 2017, 06:20:43 pm
Which team had its best player at about 75% with a hamstring?  I'll hang up and listen.
Our best QB was on the bench due to a quick trigger.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Silver Hog on September 27, 2017, 06:25:51 pm
I want Cookies!

I want Banners!
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Nashville Fan on September 27, 2017, 06:56:39 pm
The GOB network is dismantled. The decision will be made by butts in the seats. You can thank the guy at whom some of you curse. Show some class.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 28, 2017, 12:32:22 am
I apologize PRJ.  I got worked up over this whole mess.

Thank goodness it isn't what we went through in the Nutt era was my main point.  But you didn't deserve that.  I was wrong.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: porkrindjimmy on September 28, 2017, 01:09:25 am


No worries brotha. I offer my apologies to you as well.

But dang....those times, horrific as they were, we're some fun times also...

Fun meaning the people involved in that whole deal...message boards and all. Skip hiding out at the holiday inn...lol

PRJ
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 28, 2017, 01:26:03 am
No worries brotha. I offer my apologies to you as well.

But dang....those times, horrific as they were, we're some fun times also...

Fun meaning the people involved in that whole deal...message boards and all. Skip hiding out at the holiday inn...lol

PRJ

These young'uns have no idea my brotha.

I see posts about that time that crack me up.  Truth is stranger than fiction in this case, no doubt.

Student protests, flying banners, your interview, Ugly Uncle's practice reports, this site crashing when Mitch de-commited then re-committed and any other major news....the guy who Dale tried to intimidate, meeting with him with his lawyer by his side that stood up to him.  HDN kept saying, "I don't know what we gonna do, but if we do we gonna go all the way" and that fan kept saying "turn over your sim card"...wow.  Let's just say about a week after that someone messaged me saying Dale came into their store and they gave him a phone under someone else's name in a backroom.  What a sleezeball lol

I can't talk to people about it today because the facts are so insane no one would believe it.  Actually, it would make a HILARIOUS movie.  Who would play Dale?  I'm thinking Jim Carrey could nail it.

I still have AUDIO of Teresa calling in to Drive-Time saying "I know just enough to be dayyyngerusss" and then FCJ coming on after going, "Ah don't belee-vuh a word thayut woman says" lol 

Glad those days are over, but yes, it was fun in a weird sort of way. Darkest days of Hog football, no doubt about it.  I will never forget the day Dale resigned(have audio of that, as well) and then the day Petrino was hired.  Two of the GREATEST days in Hog football.
Peace brotha
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 28, 2017, 01:28:31 am
And the Star Wars photoshop by KEYS and others kept us all sane!  So hilarious!  Wish we could pull some of those up.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: ZERO on September 28, 2017, 03:55:22 am
42-38>10-23

I think he meant BB > HN in the sense that he isn't going to make a spectacle of himself when the time comes and he gets the axe. From what we've seen so far, I agree with that sentiment.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: moses_007 on September 28, 2017, 05:44:42 am
Our chief darksider (Not Shavin' Till Nutt Gone) must have been converted to a sunshine pumper. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 28, 2017, 06:08:49 am
Our chief darksider (Not Shavin' Till Nutt Gone) must have been converted to a sunshine pumper. 

Never my good buddy moses, never!!!!!!
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: moses_007 on September 28, 2017, 06:36:02 am
Never my good buddy moses, never!!!!!!
LOL!  Glad you're still in the darkside.  Others will be joining you with each Arkansas loss.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: ThisTeetsTaken on September 28, 2017, 08:32:53 am
Bielema took over a program at Wisconsin that was already built a certain way and all he had to do was keep it going and oversee the controls of the machine.  At Arkansas he attempted to undo what we were doing before he got here and make it like what he inherited before.  Turned out to be too tough a job for him.  The head coach of the Razorbacks has to be a dynamic leader that is willing to do a lot of the heavy lifting himself.  He can't be a CEO like Bielema has tried to be here and was at Wisconsin. 
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: GuvHog on September 28, 2017, 09:01:58 am
So you cant? I feared as much.

He isn't getting fired before the end of the season, if it happens at all. You have to quit getting worked up everytime someone goes negative on him. This is a message board..for.fans...of Arkansas..there are going to be differing opinions...and some, after every loss mounts, are gonna call for him to be fired. Sad reality but it is gonna happen.

I know you are a Bret fan and this while deal is sobering for you and very hard to swallow...hell, maybe even breathe...but I am pulling for you McKinney. I really am.

Seriously...I know your heart is in the right place.

PRJ

I harbor no ill feelings for CBB. It's not his fault that he was stupidly put in a bad position when he was hired and is in over his head.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on September 28, 2017, 09:57:42 pm
 
And the Star Wars photoshop by KEYS and others kept us all sane!  So hilarious!  Wish we could pull some of those up.
Remember Chewbacha hangin from the wheels of a plane. 8)
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: moses_007 on September 29, 2017, 12:04:55 am
I harbor no ill feelings for CBB. It's not his fault that he was stupidly put in a bad position when he was hired and is in over his head.
Who wrote that personal letter to Jeff Long? Bielema did, because he wanted this job.  He wanted to coach in the SEC, and felt the Hogs would be perfect for him since he grew up on a hog farm.  Is it Bielema's fault for taking this job?  Sure it is.  The fact that he can't cut the mustard is no one's fault but his.

It's not Jeff Long's fault either.  Long felt that Bielema could get us to the top of the league here just like he had done at Wisconsin.  I guarantee you Long would never hired him had he known how Bielema would flop around in medriocrity and not know what he was doing.  It's clear we have a coach that can't put together a winning program without a mentor like Alvarez telling him what to do.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: AP85 on September 29, 2017, 04:32:10 pm
I turned down four free tickets.


That's how you initiate a change.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: EastexHawg on September 29, 2017, 04:56:27 pm
The only good thing that happened back then was when I got booted from Clay's board for posting Nutt's record

There was a lot of that going around.  Ah, good ol' Clay.  No one could toe the company line like he could.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Bebop on September 29, 2017, 05:11:08 pm
Bielema took over a program at Wisconsin that was already built a certain way and all he had to do was keep it going and oversee the controls of the machine.  At Arkansas he attempted to undo what we were doing before he got here and make it like what he inherited before.  Turned out to be too tough a job for him.  The head coach of the Razorbacks has to be a dynamic leader that is willing to do a lot of the heavy lifting himself.  He can't be a CEO like Bielema has tried to be here and was at Wisconsin.

I believe this to be the case due to the fact that other coaches have come and gone at Wisconsin and Wisconsin hasn't missed a step. The unifying factor is Alavrez. That and Wisconsin is in the weaker division in the Big 10.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 30, 2017, 08:11:28 am
I believe this to be the case due to the fact that other coaches have come and gone at Wisconsin and Wisconsin hasn't missed a step. The unifying factor is Alavrez. That and Wisconsin is in the weaker division in the Big 10.

Only 2 coaches have come and only 1 has gone since CBB left. Andersen was run out of town and Chryst, a CBB disciple, is having success there.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: Bebop on September 30, 2017, 09:09:34 am
Only 2 coaches have come and only 1 has gone since CBB left. Andersen was run out of town and Chryst, a CBB disciple, is having success there.

I didn't mean to make it sound like there was a rotating door of head coaches at Wisconsin. My bad. My point was that Wisconsin has had similar/same amount of success outside of Bielema being their coach.

In other words, Bielema didn't make Wisconsin, Wisconsin made him.
Title: Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
Post by: gchamblee on September 30, 2017, 09:57:25 am
I didn't mean to make it sound like there was a rotating door of head coaches at Wisconsin. My bad. My point was that Wisconsin has had similar/same amount of success outside of Bielema being their coach.

In other words, Bielema didn't make Wisconsin, Wisconsin made him.

That's the part I am disagreeing with, respectfully. They have had 2 coaches and one was run out of town because he was messing it all up (where was the built in guaranteed success here?) and then Chryst, who does thing just like CBB, is having good success.