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Reid Miller on his way out too
« on: April 13, 2018, 04:15:36 pm »

numbers working themselves out.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2018, 09:09:22 pm »

sorry to hear, but i understand.. he gave his all for sure...  and it was very apparent that he was sliding further down the play list for safety...  had some really good hits!!
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 02:21:53 am »

I never heard of this kid. 
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2018, 04:10:43 am »

Walkon from IMG in FL.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2018, 04:28:12 am »

Sounds like he gave it everything he had. Can't ask for more than that. Best of luck Reid
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2018, 04:49:17 am »

Walkon from IMG in FL.

Originally, Bielema put him on Scholarship a couple years back
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2018, 10:31:39 am »

The exit interviews are happening so we will probably continue to see some more players leave, especially grad transfer types. 
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2018, 11:09:13 am »

kid was an overachiever. not an sec talent
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2018, 11:36:52 am »

I wish all of these young men the best. Whether or not they actually have the talent to play in the SEC or numbers just caught up with them, props to their efforts and loyalty.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2018, 01:56:01 pm »

I wish all of these young men the best. Whether or not they actually have the talent to play in the SEC or numbers just caught up with them, props to their efforts and loyalty.

They have their degrees and that is something that no one can ever take from them. That is supposed to be the goal, it should be. Proud that these two were able to use the system to get their degrees. Now they have the enviable option of being able to transfer someplace that they can work on, if not get their Masters paid for and be able to experience more playing time. Arkansas has helped provide them with this opportunity and I am sure they are as grateful for that as we are for these kids having been a part of the team. I wish each of them the very best going forward.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2018, 01:59:41 pm »

They have their degrees and that is something that no one can ever take from them. That is supposed to be the goal, it should be. Proud that these two were able to use the system to get their degrees. Now they have the enviable option of being able to transfer someplace that they can work on, if not get their Masters paid for and be able to experience more playing time. Arkansas has helped provide them with this opportunity and I am sure they are as grateful for that as we are for these kids having been a part of the team. I wish each of them the very best going forward.
Absolutely agree that the degree is the MOST important thing. As you've observed, something no one can take from them no matter what. This is as it should be. Despite our struggles and challenges on the field, a disappointment to us all, the Hill has most definitely done a very good job of helping these kids get an education. Now that we've accomplished that, and hopefully will continue to do so, let's start seeing some of those same positive results on the field.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2018, 02:13:13 pm »

Absolutely agree that the degree is the MOST important thing. As you've observed, something no one can take from them no matter what. This is as it should be. Despite our struggles and challenges on the field, a disappointment to us all, the Hill has most definitely done a very good job of helping these kids get an education. Now that we've accomplished that, and hopefully will continue to do so, let's start seeing some of those same positive results on the field.

Well yeah, of course the basic goal for every kid that is signed is to get their degree and that is something that the program should help them focus on and achieve, but like you I hope that we focus more on those who produce at a higher level (across the board) and that we too get more out of every player that is signed. It isn't always going to work out the way that we had originally hoped for when they were signed, but let us hope that we sign more kids with greater upside that help us achieve our stated goals, while we help them achieve theirs.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2018, 04:54:42 pm »

Well yeah, of course the basic goal for every kid that is signed is to get their degree and that is something that the program should help them focus on and achieve, but like you I hope that we focus more on those who produce at a higher level (across the board) and that we too get more out of every player that is signed. It isn't always going to work out the way that we had originally hoped for when they were signed, but let us hope that we sign more kids with greater upside that help us achieve our stated goals, while we help them achieve theirs.
IMHO much of the problem with recruiting under CBB is that it seemed so many of the kids we signed and/or eventually put on scholarship through the walk-on program, etc. were in fact "reaches"-kids who very well might give you great effort; however, when it came right down to it didn't have the talent to consistently succeed against the vast majority of SEC programs. CCM most certainly needs to hone in on the players who have the talent and ability to compete immediately-perhaps not as freshmen but certainly within the first couple of years of signing. Far too often we've inked kids who we HOPE will turn out to be very solid by the their junior or senior years.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2018, 05:20:53 pm »

IMHO much of the problem with recruiting under CBB is that it seemed so many of the kids we signed and/or eventually put on scholarship through the walk-on program, etc. were in fact "reaches"-kids who very well might give you great effort; however, when it came right down to it didn't have the talent to consistently succeed against the vast majority of SEC programs. CCM most certainly needs to hone in on the players who have the talent and ability to compete immediately-perhaps not as freshmen but certainly within the first couple of years of signing. Far too often we've inked kids who we HOPE will turn out to be very solid by the their junior or senior years.

And that was the issue with Bielema. He felt that he could build the program here on the basis of what he did at Wisconsin and in my opinion he didn't properly evaluate the difference in levels of talent/recruiting between the two conferences and even between the two divisions. Vastly different. He could get away with that in the Western Division of the Big Ten, not so much in the SEC West.
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Re: Reid Miller on his way out too
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2018, 06:15:22 pm »

IMHO much of the problem with recruiting under CBB is that it seemed so many of the kids we signed and/or eventually put on scholarship through the walk-on program, etc. were in fact "reaches"-kids who very well might give you great effort; however, when it came right down to it didn't have the talent to consistently succeed against the vast majority of SEC programs. CCM most certainly needs to hone in on the players who have the talent and ability to compete immediately-perhaps not as freshmen but certainly within the first couple of years of signing. Far too often we've inked kids who we HOPE will turn out to be very solid by the their junior or senior years.

The NFL certainly disagrees with that assessment. Or at the very least, if our current players are reaches, then they've been able to reach further than any time time in our programs history at least since joining the SEC.

Continuing with the NFL draft as an unbiased measure of athletic talent, we've been much more consistently good and arguably, we should be after some more reaches. Namely, we have had consistently more NFL talent, but have actually had fewer elite players. Players that are first and second round draft picks. For that, it certainly seemed like we were picking up a lot of coal but finding a few diamonds. Taking some extra risks on some real project type player that are high risk, but also high reward. At least until we can more consistently just get the outright top players.
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