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Re: Football incident
« Reply #150 on: April 11, 2018, 12:56:53 pm »

You can still do this after the police release something.  Full transparency, when the Razorbacks have had a bad previous tenure with the coaching staff I tend to want to see the new staff do things the opposite way.  I'm not in any way saying I want Coach Morris letting kids off the hook for being knuckle heads or anything. I just really wasn't a fan of how when Coach B punished kids he was always so out front with it in the media, letting everyone know how he was doing the right thing.

I'm a fan of letting the coaches handle it behind closed doors, if that means dismissing someone and making a statement after then so be it, but the process should be none of our business.  Say what you want about Saban but I am a big fan of his approach to player punishment.
Agreed on the Saban part. "We will handle it internally"
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #151 on: April 11, 2018, 01:09:26 pm »

You must be a KA


if he's a KA then he's a black KA
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #152 on: April 11, 2018, 01:12:06 pm »

Shocked to hear KAs and Black Football Players got in a fight...  ???

We were all thinking it...
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #153 on: April 11, 2018, 01:15:29 pm »

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Re: Football incident
« Reply #154 on: April 11, 2018, 01:15:58 pm »

Well, that didn’t take long.

Thats right lets blame "Long"
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #155 on: April 11, 2018, 01:57:17 pm »


if he's a KA then he's a black KA
About as likely as a Jewish Nazi
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #156 on: April 11, 2018, 02:09:33 pm »

If true you have to do something.   You can't have football players going around campus starting fights.  Just can't happen.  Now IF it's not true then so be it.  I am surprised at how many dumbasses that think it's cool and support players going out getting drunk and starting fights on campus.  What type of message is that?  Typical dumbass hog fans for sure.  Would be better to sit back and wait for more details.

Guilty until proven innocent? How do you know football players started it? I feel that’s
A rush to judgement. I would lean towards a drunked up frat boy running his mouth and getting called out on it.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #157 on: April 11, 2018, 03:38:42 pm »

About as likely as a Jewish Nazi

Keep George Soros on the Politics board.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #158 on: April 11, 2018, 03:46:48 pm »

Keep George Soros on the Politics board.
Well played ;D
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #159 on: April 11, 2018, 03:52:12 pm »

Exactly. Proof that fashion always returns, even bad fashion.  Fights in frat houses, mullets return ... how long before bell bottoms come back in style?  Asking for a friend.
Hey, hey, I'm waiting to rock a leisure suit again. ;D
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #160 on: April 11, 2018, 03:54:54 pm »

Keep George Soros on the Politics board.
Touche lol
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #161 on: April 11, 2018, 03:57:17 pm »

I have no opinion about the incident.

However, if this were aTm and the video was released, everyone here would be crucifying them and claiming the player should be kicked off the team. It is interesting to watch fans and their double standards.

If someone attacks you, you have a right to defend yourself regardless of whether you are an athlete or just a student. Waiting on facts to come out is the right thing to do. And, there is nothing wrong with seeing the video this early. I like to see the evidence before it gets spun and edited, not after.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #162 on: April 11, 2018, 04:48:58 pm »

Anyone know what the final score was ?
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #163 on: April 11, 2018, 04:59:55 pm »

I have no opinion about the incident.

However, if this were aTm and the video was released, everyone here would be crucifying them and claiming the player should be kicked off the team. It is interesting to watch fans and their double standards.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #164 on: April 11, 2018, 05:07:14 pm »

About as likely as a Jewish Nazi

You realize that existed, right?
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #165 on: April 11, 2018, 05:28:52 pm »

Something terrible happens every spring.  Typically it's a running back being lost for the season.  This seems rather mild in comparison. 

Kids aren't raised like they were when we were younger.  A lot of us were left alone a lot because our parents worked and we learned how to get on and handle things ourselves.  A generation raised by helicopter parents never had the same opportunities.  When they get to college and get a taste of freedom, they lose their minds and make terrible decisions. 

Hopefully Morris runs them until they die, resurrects them, and repeats the process.  If someone got seriously hurt, the consequences will be more severe for the aggressor.  All them boys who were in the vicinity need a block of instruction from the coaches about how to conduct themselves and how to avoid trouble. 
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #166 on: April 11, 2018, 05:30:20 pm »

You can still do this after the police release something.  Full transparency, when the Razorbacks have had a bad previous tenure with the coaching staff I tend to want to see the new staff do things the opposite way.  I'm not in any way saying I want Coach Morris letting kids off the hook for being knuckle heads or anything. I just really wasn't a fan of how when Coach B punished kids he was always so out front with it in the media, letting everyone know how he was doing the right thing.

I'm a fan of letting the coaches handle it behind closed doors, if that means dismissing someone and making a statement after then so be it, but the process should be none of our business.  Say what you want about Saban but I am a big fan of his approach to player punishment. 

If they're big contributors, sure... wait and see.

If they aren't, then this is a golden opportunity to make some room.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #167 on: April 11, 2018, 06:10:21 pm »

Something terrible happens every spring.  Typically it's a running back being lost for the season.  This seems rather mild in comparison. 

Kids aren't raised like they were when we were younger.  A lot of us were left alone a lot because our parents worked and we learned how to get on and handle things ourselves.  A generation raised by helicopter parents never had the same opportunities.  When they get to college and get a taste of freedom, they lose their minds and make terrible decisions. 

Hopefully Morris runs them until they die, resurrects them, and repeats the process.  If someone got seriously hurt, the consequences will be more severe for the aggressor.  All them boys who were in the vicinity need a block of instruction from the coaches about how to conduct themselves and how to avoid trouble.
You also weren't growing up during an age where literally everything you do can be posted on the internet and viewed countless times before the next day even starts. I bet you had some moments as a 18-22 year old you wouldn't be proud of if they came out today on Twitter.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #168 on: April 11, 2018, 06:27:35 pm »

They are calling it a suspected 3rd degree battery. That should tell you all you need to know about how badly this unkown hospital patient was injured

Hint: not very seriously hurt.

Hint for the uninitiated: On the criminal severity scale 1st degree batt > 3rd degree batt

Hints on hints on hints: they are investigating a potential misdemeanor
« Last Edit: April 11, 2018, 07:34:47 pm by KlubhouseKonnected »
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #169 on: April 11, 2018, 06:36:56 pm »

Good info Klub
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #170 on: April 11, 2018, 06:53:07 pm »

A couple of players were suspended from practice today, no names given.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #171 on: April 11, 2018, 07:10:52 pm »

A couple of players were suspended from practice today, no names given.
At least he’s not “letting the seniors decide” ala Nuttcakes.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #172 on: April 11, 2018, 07:12:31 pm »

The are calling it a suspected 3rd degree battery. That should tell you all you need to know about how badly this unkown hospital patient was injured

Hint: not very seriously hurt.

Hint for the uninitiated: On the criminal severity scale 1st degree batt > 3rd degree batt

Hints on hints on hints: they are investigating a potential misdemeanor

So really not very many Fulmer Cup points.
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« Reply #173 on: April 11, 2018, 07:35:23 pm »

So really not very many Fulmer Cup points.

Yeah, not much hustle in that regard.
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« Reply #174 on: April 11, 2018, 07:37:37 pm »

There are a name or two out there on the private boards. The names mentioned aren’t frontline players imo.
Doesn’t matter though. Stupid decisions and actions no matter where they are on the depth chart.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #175 on: April 11, 2018, 07:38:14 pm »

A charge of third degree battery is pretty much a statement that “yeah there was some rough stuff but no seriously got hurt”
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #176 on: April 11, 2018, 07:52:03 pm »

It's been way too many years since I graduated.  I don't remember the KA's.  Where is their house? 
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« Reply #177 on: April 11, 2018, 07:54:17 pm »

It's been way too many years since I graduated.  I don't remember the KA's.  Where is their house? 

Nvm/stupid joke even by my standards
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #178 on: April 11, 2018, 07:54:30 pm »

It's been way too many years since I graduated.  I don't remember the KA's.  Where is their house?

They came back to campus in 2012/2013. Their house is relatively new and is on Arkansas Ave closer to Dickson
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #179 on: April 11, 2018, 09:25:18 pm »

Okay. But a “few” years back, when something like this occurred, people got over it & went on their merry way. But not today....now we have folks making mountains out of molehills. A fight broke out at a fraternity party. wow! Breaking news! Must be the first time that ever happened. Geez.

Well, if you put football players up on pedestal and praise them for what they do on the football field, then they should be held accountable when acting stupid off the field -- yes more so than the average students because they are not treated like average students.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #180 on: April 11, 2018, 09:27:28 pm »

I have no problem with the video being posted. None. What the problem is, is that we don't know what made the videographer to pull his phone out and start recording. We also don't know what happened after he incident went elsewhere.

Obviously from the angle, it was a security camera.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #181 on: April 11, 2018, 10:00:01 pm »

It's been way too many years since I graduated.  I don't remember the KA's.  Where is their house?

Glad I wasn't the only one scratching my head.  My guess is replacing the vacancy for the house that was leveled over by the Alumni house, AGR I think.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #182 on: April 11, 2018, 10:11:06 pm »


Really? Bielema had no issues at all like this?


It was a fight that seems to have gotten out of hand.  While it seems like it could warrant some action from the coaching staff, it is hardly some criminal ring who was slinging dope or stealing TVs.

Really.  Really.

When the head coach is okay with fighting in practice, that's going to spill over into frat houses, the campus and the community.  It's only a matter of time until it involves girlfriends and what not.  It'll be just like OU.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #183 on: April 11, 2018, 10:15:04 pm »

They came back to campus in 2012/2013. Their house is relatively new and is on Arkansas Ave closer to Dickson
Thanks.  I remember Sigma Nu and Pi Kappa Alpha over there and of course the Kappa Sigs across the street on Dickson.  But that was 35 years ago!
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #184 on: April 11, 2018, 10:47:57 pm »

Really.  Really.

When the head coach is okay with fighting in practice, that's going to spill over into frat houses, the campus and the community.  It's only a matter of time until it involves girlfriends and what not.  It'll be just like OU.

It seems like maybe you’ve never played football.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #185 on: April 11, 2018, 11:08:33 pm »

Really.  Really.

When the head coach is okay with fighting in practice, that's going to spill over into frat houses, the campus and the community.  It's only a matter of time until it involves girlfriends and what not.  It'll be just like OU.

Oh my. I hope I am missing the sarcasm or something here.. Are you seriously blaming a skirmish at a frat house on a new coach that probably just met the players (who may or may not have been) involved a short few months ago? Who he likely didn't even recruit... Give me a break man.
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« Reply #186 on: April 11, 2018, 11:09:34 pm »

Really.  Really.

When the head coach is okay with fighting in practice, that's going to spill over into frat houses, the campus and the community.  It's only a matter of time until it involves girlfriends and what not.  It'll be just like OU.


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« Reply #187 on: April 11, 2018, 11:15:38 pm »

Thanks.  I remember Sigma Nu and Pi Kappa Alpha over there and of course the Kappa Sigs across the street on Dickson.  But that was 35 years ago!

35 years ago they would have been in their double wide on Stadium next door to the Phi Delts.
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« Reply #188 on: April 11, 2018, 11:22:14 pm »

It's been way too many years since I graduated.  I don't remember the KA's.  Where is their house? 
Thanks.  I remember Sigma Nu and Pi Kappa Alpha over there and of course the Kappa Sigs across the street on Dickson.  But that was 35 years ago!

They lived in the sorority house on Stadium 25 + yrs ago when I was there.  Racists

25 years later kappa alpha order still getting there darn pushed in by everybody on campus. 
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #189 on: April 11, 2018, 11:31:11 pm »

Anyone know what the final score was ?
Who cares?  It was just an intramural skirmish.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #190 on: April 11, 2018, 11:31:34 pm »

It seems like maybe you’ve never played football.

He's got a point. A flimsy one, a point nonetheless.

Nowhere in a game is it a good idea to throw a punch. Sure, you absolutely want that passion and that aggression, but as a coach, you want to practice like you play and you never want a player to throw a punch in a game.

I highly doubt that when the fight broke out in practice, Morris was there in the circle chanting "fight, fight, fight!". I'd guess his first move was to break it up, applaud the passion but use that as a coachable moment about channeling that passion into the appropriate outlets rather than resorting to fighting and the proceeded to make those involved run sprints or the bleachers or something.

However, IF, and that's a big IF, the coach did encourage fighting, that absolutely could lead to a pavlovian like response of whenever emotions run high, taking that out inappropriately on somebody else.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #191 on: April 11, 2018, 11:42:57 pm »

Really.  Really.

When the head coach is okay with fighting in practice, that's going to spill over into frat houses, the campus and the community.  It's only a matter of time until it involves girlfriends and what not.  It'll be just like OU.

Devwah Whaley and Brandon Martin say 'Hey!" I guess that doesn't count since it happened on the LAST coach's watch..

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Re: Football incident
« Reply #192 on: April 11, 2018, 11:59:55 pm »

Devwah Whaley and Brandon Martin say 'Hey!" I guess that doesn't count since it happened on the LAST coach's watch..

Your response doesn't make sense. If the poster was arguing that there were never any fights under the previous coach, then your post would be a perfect counter-example. However, his post was arguing that the current coach is okay with fights in practice, and thus that could lead to more fights outside of football. So, to counter that, you'd either need to show that there were still numerous fights outside of football with those players, or show the previous coach was also okay with fights happening.

Or, you could argue that the premise is mistaken in the first place since it was likely just a miscommunication from Morris to begin with. Unlikely that Morris encouraged the fight and just misspoke, presumably just trying to say that he liked that the players had passion and aggression.
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« Reply #193 on: April 12, 2018, 12:02:43 am »

Really.  Really.

When the head coach is okay with fighting in practice, that's going to spill over into frat houses, the campus and the community.  It's only a matter of time until it involves girlfriends and what not.  It'll be just like OU.

That’s an A+ trollin effort.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #194 on: April 12, 2018, 12:58:11 am »

Your response doesn't make sense. If the poster was arguing that there were never any fights under the previous coach, then your post would be a perfect counter-example. However, his post was arguing that the current coach is okay with fights in practice, and thus that could lead to more fights outside of football. So, to counter that, you'd either need to show that there were still numerous fights outside of football with those players, or show the previous coach was also okay with fights happening.

Or, you could argue that the premise is mistaken in the first place since it was likely just a miscommunication from Morris to begin with. Unlikely that Morris encouraged the fight and just misspoke, presumably just trying to say that he liked that the players had passion and aggression.

I don't think you've read the whole thread...


Devwah Whaley and Brandon Martin say 'Hey!" I guess that doesn't count since it happened on the LAST coach's watch..




Really.  Really.

When the head coach is okay with fighting in practice, that's going to spill over into frat houses, the campus and the community.  It's only a matter of time until it involves girlfriends and what not.  It'll be just like OU.



Now, here is what you missed Benny...


Funny that these guys didn't behave like this when Bret was here.  Sometimes  you hire your own problems.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #195 on: April 12, 2018, 01:26:09 am »

I don't think you've read the whole thread...

Now, here is what you missed Benny...

Yeah, I read that. Didn't miss it. To help keep egg off your face or t he taste of shoe out of your mouth, probably shouldn't be so confident in what another poster does or does miss.

I interpreted "behaved like this" to mean "got into drunken fights at frat parties that led to hospitalization and at least the threat of charges."

I suppose you could interpret "behaved like this" to mean "ever got into a fight at all" but given the context of the thread, the latter interpretation seems very unlikely to me.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #196 on: April 12, 2018, 01:28:41 am »

I'd like to know how many of you idiots besides me knows George Soros.

He has become the right-wing punching bag, but you sound so stupid parroting that crap.
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #197 on: April 12, 2018, 02:50:37 am »

I'd like to know how many of you idiots besides me knows George Soros.

He has become the right-wing punching bag, but you sound so stupid parroting that crap.
Now I'm really confused. So, George Soros while attending a Kappa Sig party Sunday morning was hospitalized due to being beaten unconscious by a group of right-wing Razorback football players using him as a punching bag?
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« Reply #198 on: April 12, 2018, 03:02:47 am »

Now I'm really confused. So, George Soros while attending a Kappa Sig party Sunday morning was hospitalized due to being beaten unconscious by a group of right-wing Razorback football players?
Pretty much sums it up. 
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Re: Football incident
« Reply #199 on: April 12, 2018, 04:43:37 am »

Who the hell is George Soros?...and why did CM send some Jewish Nazi football players to beat up someone at a frat party in a double-wide trailer?
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