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How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« on: April 09, 2018, 06:36:16 pm »

Starting:

PG: Jalen Harris
SG: Mason Jones
SF: Khalil Garland
PF: Reggie Chaney (Only Freshman starter)
C  : Daniel Gafford


By the time Conference Play Begins:

PG: Jalen Harris
SG: Mason Jones
SF:  Jordan Phillips
PF:  Adrio Bailey
C  :  Daniel Gafford


To balance out the scoring coming off the bench he will utilize 6'7 Reggie Chaney (like he did Darly Macon) when Gafford needs either a breather or gets into early foul trouble.

6'6 Khalil Garland will be substituting at the SF & G position so his minutes should not drop.  6'7 Jordan Phillips is just far to gifted and in my opinion has the most upside next to Gafford. 

6'1 Desi Sills will be assigned to guard the opponents best guard while leading the team in steals while 6'4  [/b]Isaiah Joe[/b] will probably get major minute's along with 6'4 Keyshawn Embrey in 3 guard lineup's.

Ethan Henderson is a 6'9 explosive *jumping jack* who will pile his minute's relieving both the Gafford, Chaney & Graduate Transfer.

I believe if the Arkansas coaches don't acquire a Graduate Transfer or difference maker's they may just save that scholarship for the 2019 class (awarding a senior walkon in the process)
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 06:42:10 pm »

By conference season:  Gafford, Chaney, Harris, Embrey and Joe..
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2018, 06:44:51 pm »

By conference season:  Gafford, Chaney, Harris, Embrey and Joe..

I can live with that but...

That's "THE MAJORITY" of your scoring punch minus Mason who would be a upper-classmen and you know Coach Anderson is always trying to create a 2nd wave with little drop-off in offensive production.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2018, 07:09:43 pm »

I can live with that but...

That's "THE MAJORITY" of your scoring punch minus Mason who would be a upper-classmen and you know Coach Anderson is always trying to create a 2nd wave with little drop-off in offensive production.

You may be right .. Embrey could be needed at pg on the 2nd squad,  but I think defense will be the deciding factor... Embrey is known for being a dog on D,, Joe  plays the Scotty role and Harris is locked in at pg... I think Mason will be counted on to fill it up off the bench..
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2018, 07:32:38 pm »

Starting:

PG: Jalen Harris
SG: Mason Jones
SF: Khalil Garland
PF: Reggie Chaney (Only Freshman starter)
C  : Daniel Gafford


By the time Conference Play Begins:

PG: Jalen Harris
SG: Mason Jones
SF:  Jordan Phillips
PF:  Adrio Bailey
C  :  Daniel Gafford


To balance out the scoring coming off the bench he will utilize 6'7 Reggie Chaney (like he did Darly Macon) when Gafford needs either a breather or gets into early foul trouble.

6'6 Khalil Garland will be substituting at the SF & G position so his minutes should not drop.  6'7 Jordan Phillips is just far to gifted and in my opinion has the most upside next to Gafford. 

6'1 Desi Sills will be assigned to guard the opponents best guard while leading the team in steals while 6'4  [/b]Isaiah Joe[/b] will probably get major minute's along with 6'4 Keyshawn Embrey in 3 guard lineup's.

Ethan Henderson is a 6'9 explosive *jumping jack* who will pile his minute's relieving both the Gafford, Chaney & Graduate Transfer.

I believe if the Arkansas coaches don't acquire a Graduate Transfer or difference maker's they may just save that scholarship for the 2019 class (awarding a senior walkon in the process)

Im glad somebody is as high on Phillips as I am. Only thing that concerns me is the 25% three point showing this year and the 1.5 assists per game.

I think Joe may be a starter before its said and done tho.

I like

Harris
Garland
Joe
Chaney
Gafford

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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2018, 07:36:57 pm »

Harris
Joe
Garland
Bailey
Gafford

Midway through season
Harris/Embery
Joe
Garland
Chaney
Gafford
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2018, 07:40:02 pm »

1: Jalen Harris
2: Isiah Joe
3: Khalil Garland
4: Adrio Bailey
5: Danie Gafford
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2018, 08:00:51 pm »

Starters:
1: Harris
2: Joe
3: Garland (if cleared) otherwise M Jones
4: Chaney
5: Gafford

2nd string
1: Embery
2: M Jones or Sills
3: Phillips
4: Bailey
5: Henderson

We may see lots of different starting lineups this year, due to inexperience and interchangeable parts...several players can fit in two or three slots depending on needs and who is playing well
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2018, 08:16:22 pm »

Theres no way Chaney is 67
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2018, 08:23:17 pm »

Although they are inexperienced are there any big drop offs in talent/scoring potential that we saw this year with the secon unit?  Outside of Gafford of course but even there it looks like dropp off won't be as steep as it was this year
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2018, 09:03:03 pm »

Is everybody forgetting Gabe? Or is the talent coming in better than last years team?
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2018, 08:31:20 am »

*With the rumored optimism around Garland, I'll factor him into my projections.

Starters:

PG - Jalen Harris
SG - Keyshawn Embery
3G - Khalil Garland
S4 - Reggie Chaney
C - Dan Gafford

Bench Rotation:

G - Isaiah Joe
G - Mason Jones
F - Jordan Phillips
F - Adrio Bailey
F - Gabe Osabuohien

Ethan Henderson and Desi Sills will likely be outside the rotation as freshmen (and hopefully not transfer after the season).
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2018, 08:35:25 am »

Agree about Sills. I think Ethan will be in the rotation over one of Adrio/Gabe.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2018, 08:51:08 am »

Sills will be our best defender next year... he will be in the two deep rotation somehwere
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2018, 08:51:49 am »

With Mike's tendency to start experience, certainly in the beginning of the year, why isn't Bailey in everyone's starting lineup? I expect a big jump from him this year.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2018, 08:53:25 am »

Harris
Joe
Garland
Bailey
Gafford

Midway through season
Harris/Embery
Joe
Garland
Chaney
Gafford

I agree with this. I've been pretty pessimistic about next year, but the nice thing is most freshman come in and really bust their tails defensively. If these guys buy in and grasp the trapping philosophies quickly, we should have a very athletic defense. I still fear the offense will really struggle in the halfcourt. We'll need to be great in transition.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2018, 08:57:08 am »

I don't see Mason Jones having the foot quickness to play the 2 in our system. He will be a 3 for us. Assuming Garland is cleared and we don't add anyone else:

PG: Harris / Embery
SG: Garland / Joe / Sills
SF: Jones / Phillips
PF: Chaney / Bailey / Osabuohien
C: Gafford / Henderson

Mike will lean on experience as usual. However, the talent and skill of Chaney is far superior than anything we have at the 4 right now, so he will start over Bailey and Osabuohien.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2018, 08:59:53 am »

Harris/ Embery
Joe/ Sills
Garland/ Mason/ Phillips
Bailey/ Chaney/ Osa
Gafford/ Henderson

scoring and defense in both units.. obviously we wont know until all these guys are playing... also wouldnt be surprised if Gabe pushes all the bigs for playing time.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2018, 09:02:45 am »

Harris/ Embery
Joe/ Sills
Garland/ Mason/ Phillips
Bailey/ Chaney/ Osa
Gafford/ Henderson

scoring and defense in both units.. obviously we wont know until all these guys are playing... also wouldnt be surprised if Gabe pushes all the bigs for playing time.

I agree and think Gabe could make a huge jump. He showed glimpses of being a very athletic, versatile defender last year. He can also handle the ball a bit and has potential shooting wise. Pretty good passer, as well.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2018, 09:09:52 am »

Agree about Sills. I think Ethan will be in the rotation over one of Adrio/Gabe.

Nope, regarding Adrio.  He's a very good defender, and he'll be a junior, and that combination gets you on the floor to a maximum with CMA.  Ethan will not be as good of a technical defender as a frosh as Adrio will have learned to be; he'll get some blocks, but will not know MAs defensive desires as well as AB, thus he will be under AB in the rotation.  MHO.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2018, 09:40:44 am »

Is everybody forgetting Gabe? Or is the talent coming in better than last years team?

Gabe is the perfect 2nd unit player. He comes in and provides energy and a spark for 3-4 minute spurts.

However, he will struggle the more minutes he plays due to being exposed. He does not have the overall skill set of someone like Chaney to be a starting PF and get 25-30 minutes a game.

He is very raw right now. It will take time for him to put it all together.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2018, 09:47:12 am »

With Mike's tendency to start experience, certainly in the beginning of the year, why isn't Bailey in everyone's starting lineup? I expect a big jump from him this year.

He seemed to fall out of favor during conference play. I thought he actually should have been starting the whole time and he was a healthy DNP in a few games. That's a factor for me personally.

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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2018, 10:06:50 am »

With Mike's tendency to start experience, certainly in the beginning of the year, why isn't Bailey in everyone's starting lineup? I expect a big jump from him this year.

IF Bailey does start in the beginning, it will last no longer than Thompson starting over Gafford.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2018, 10:07:10 am »

He seemed to fall out of favor during conference play. I thought he actually should have been starting the whole time and he was a healthy DNP in a few games. That's a factor for me personally.
well he did have the flu for three games in the middle of conference play
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2018, 10:13:02 am »

Gotta have at least 3 shooters minimum.  These lineups with 3 or 4 guys who can't shoot 3's aren't gonna work.

PG Garland
SG Embery
SF Joe
PF Chaney
C Gafford
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2018, 10:15:40 am »

Gotta have at least 3 shooters minimum.  These lineups with 3 or 4 guys who can't shoot 3's aren't gonna work.

PG Garland
SG Embery
SF Joe
PF Chaney
C Gafford

setting our bench up to score like last years..lol
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2018, 10:48:46 am »

So um are we gonna suck? These lineups are painfully inexperienced, and it's not exactly full of 5-stars...we sure will play hard, though! That'll be refreshing after the past two years of lackluster effort at times...The thing that made it decently palatable is the fact that the team made the tourney both years.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2018, 11:08:15 am »

well he did have the flu for three games in the middle of conference play

DNP January 30 at A&M
Plays next 2 games
DNP February 10 vs Vanderbilt & February 13 at Ole Miss
Plays 2 minutes February 17 vs A&M
DNP February 20 vs Kentucky

Did he have the flu for nearly a month? I know he was sick for about a week, but he was also just not playing.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2018, 11:26:47 am »

DNP January 30 at A&M
Plays next 2 games
DNP February 10 vs Vanderbilt & February 13 at Ole Miss
Plays 2 minutes February 17 vs A&M
DNP February 20 vs Kentucky

Did he have the flu for nearly a month? I know he was sick for about a week, but he was also just not playing.

He lost a lot of weight during the week or so he was sick.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2018, 11:38:48 am »

With Mike's tendency to start experience, certainly in the beginning of the year, why isn't Bailey in everyone's starting lineup? I expect a big jump from him this year.

Everyone expected a big jump from last year as well after the tourney showing against UNC, but that didn't happen
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2018, 12:07:56 pm »

I refuse to predict something that has no rhyme or reason to it like Mike's lineups.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2018, 12:12:24 pm »

Embery and Joe should both be major contributors right away. I would anticipate them to start. Harris and Jones will likely remain reserves.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2018, 12:14:11 pm »

Instead of predicting lineups I would challenge someone to predict productivity. From a scoring standpoint Id say: Gafford, Joe, Embery, Sills, Bailey
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2018, 12:20:02 pm »

Start of year:
Harris, Jones, Garland, Adrio, Daniel

SEC play:
Harris, Joe, Garland, Chaney, Daniel
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2018, 12:26:18 pm »

For all of you who say Harris wont be a starter, you are wrong.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2018, 12:28:06 pm »

For all of you who say Harris wont be a starter, you are wrong.
he may start but he wont score.  Embery is much better
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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2018, 12:29:24 pm »

he may start but he wont score.  Embery is much better
he doesnt need to score, he needs to distribute the ball to Gafford, Joe, and Chaney and you will see how much better our offense will flow.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2018, 12:49:52 pm »

he doesnt need to score, he needs to distribute the ball to Gafford, Joe, and Chaney and you will see how much better our offense will flow.
You are underestimating Embery.  He is a big time player
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2018, 12:50:01 pm »

When it comes to Harris I go with what someone whos seen him everyday says and Jalen Barford tweeted not long ago that J5 is a starter.

Being that Barford has seen him everyday for a season and he says that, he must be impresed. Someone said and it may have been Barford I cant remember, but one of our guys said Harris is the fastest player hes ever played with or against.

So with all that Im calling Harris a definite starter.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2018, 12:50:50 pm »

setting our bench up to score like last years..lol
I'm not big on bench.  Play guys 30 minutes plus.  Villanovas top 5 players averaged around 30 mpg
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2018, 12:57:38 pm »

I'm not big on bench.  Play guys 30 minutes plus.  Villanovas top 5 players averaged around 30 mpg

Im with this 100%

I hate when our #1 player plays 10 more minutes than our #10 player. Makes no sense. Were not wearing teams down. That doesnt work anymore. These guys are in shape they play several games a day in AAU. This use the bench to get into opponents legs thing is useless, its a myth

Too many timeouts, foul calls and TV timeouts
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2018, 01:08:54 pm »

Im with this 100%

I hate when our #1 player plays 10 more minutes than our #10 player. Makes no sense. Were not wearing teams down. That doesnt work anymore. These guys are in shape they play several games a day in AAU. This use the bench to get into opponents legs thing is useless, its a myth

Too many timeouts, foul calls and TV timeouts
Exactly.  No reason your best players can't play 30 minutes plus. 
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2018, 01:09:38 pm »

Everyone expected a big jump from last year as well after the tourney showing against UNC, but that didn't happen

He was actually producing about 7.5 pts, 4.5 rebs, and 2 blks before losing playing time to Arlando Cook for no reason. I think Bailey could have continued that production if not having his rhythm and the team chemistry thrown off by the return of Cook, who produced little.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2018, 01:10:32 pm »

When it comes to Harris I go with what someone whos seen him everyday says and Jalen Barford tweeted not long ago that J5 is a starter.

Being that Barford has seen him everyday for a season and he says that, he must be impresed. Someone said and it may have been Barford I cant remember, but one of our guys said Harris is the fastest player hes ever played with or against.

So with all that Im calling Harris a definite starter.

Harris is our quickest point guard since Fortson.
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2018, 01:25:58 pm »

Gotta have at least 3 shooters minimum.  These lineups with 3 or 4 guys who can't shoot 3's aren't gonna work.

PG Garland
SG Embery
SF Joe
PF Chaney
C Gafford

Do we even have 3 shooters? lol
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2018, 01:44:59 pm »

Do we even have 3 shooters? lol
Two years ago I would have said no but Garland is now a really good shooter.  Just hope he gets cleared
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2018, 01:48:51 pm »

Harris is our quickest point guard since Fortson.

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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2018, 01:49:57 pm »

Do we even have 3 shooters? lol

Joe, Jones, and Embery for sure
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Re: How about a updated starting lineup (chime in)
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2018, 01:50:14 pm »

BJ Young

You consider BJ Young a point guard?
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