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How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« on: April 06, 2018, 10:30:55 am »

Some players seem to buy in, Is it an individual thing?
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2018, 01:08:00 pm »

Pile the minutes on them no matter what (See Beard).
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2018, 01:14:44 pm »

Recruit JUCOs and transfers who have no real option to transfer.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2018, 01:16:22 pm »

Gone are the days of true school pride. Mike obviously needs to tweak his philosophy and pitch it well.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2018, 01:47:22 pm »

Recruit JUCOs and transfers who have no real option to transfer.

It's not a bad plan really. You recruit kids from HS and they only stay an average of 2 years anyways due to transfer, getting dismissed, or leaving for the pros.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2018, 04:12:48 pm »

Show them nostalgic pics of him sitting on the bench with Nolan and retell tales of 40 Minutes Of Hell before it went South. Thatís how he GOT the job and top salary.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2018, 09:46:33 am »

Just because Darious freaking Hall thinks heís to good for the Hogs doesnít mean players donít buy into the dang system, Iím
Sorry that you think you are a one and done when you are obviously not.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2018, 10:02:53 am »

Just because Darious freaking Hall thinks heís to good for the Hogs doesnít mean players donít buy into the dang system, Iím
Sorry that you think you are a one and done when you are obviously not.
Good grief youíre blind.  This is a yearly issue.  The list of players who left because CMA struggles to manage his roster is ridiculous.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2018, 10:05:18 am »

Good grief youíre blind.  This is a yearly issue.  The list of players who left because CMA struggles to manage his roster is ridiculous.
3?
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2018, 10:09:03 am »

3?
3 the past 2 years that we were counting on to be major contributors...
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2018, 10:22:00 am »

3 the past 2 years that we were counting on to be major contributors...
who?
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2018, 10:25:09 am »

If 95% of the power 5 programs we're not suffering through the same exact attrition of transfers you guy's would have a point but these post make absolutely no sense??????

We and 346 division 1 teams have transfers, loss of scholarship's due to graduation, dismissals etc....

We are at no-more a disadvantage than any other SEC, Big 10, ACC, PAC 12 etc... program.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2018, 10:28:38 am »

who?
Cj Jones, Hall, Jimmy whitt. If we go back to 2015 we can throw Nick Babb in there as well.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2018, 10:29:54 am »

If 95% of the power 5 programs we're not suffering through the same exact attrition of transfers you guy's would have a point but these post make absolutely no sense??????

We and 346 division 1 teams have transfers, loss of scholarship's due to graduation, dismissals etc....

We are at no-more a disadvantage than any other SEC, Big 10, ACC, PAC 12 etc... program.
It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the fact we have a poor recruiting staff, then every player loss becomes magnified because they already struggle to get talent equal to their piers. When you struggle recruiting, retention become more important than if you were able to land top talent regularly.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2018, 10:49:36 am »

It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the fact we have a poor recruiting staff, then every player loss becomes magnified because they already struggle to get talent equal to their piers. When you struggle recruiting, retention become more important than if you were able to land top talent regularly.

other than Jacorey Williams leaving town with a police escort I have yet to see a single player leave that would have made a major difference. Depth guys at best. Depth guys that leave because they think they are 30 minute guys become a liability if they stay. Hall could end up being the exception but he could have been a 25 minute guy next year. We will see, wouldn't surprise me if he had a very mediocre stay elsewhere either.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2018, 11:23:57 am »

other than Jacorey Williams leaving town with a police escort I have yet to see a single player leave that would have made a major difference. Depth guys at best. Depth guys that leave because they think they are 30 minute guys become a liability if they stay. Hall could end up being the exception but he could have been a 25 minute guy next year. We will see, wouldn't surprise me if he had a very mediocre stay elsewhere either.
You guys kill me, when these players are coming in you guys rave about what they add to the team and how you expect them to develop. But suddenly on the way out they become no big loss, wasn't going to help anyway, more of a liability than anything.

Just like this new class coming in that is not that highly rated. You guys rave about how good they are even though the pundits don't see it that way. But let one of those same players leave and suddenly you guys will pull up the rankings that had them as 3* and declare them easily replaced. If some of you guys aren't on Anderson's payroll, you surely should be.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2018, 11:40:41 am »

It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the fact we have a poor recruiting staff, then every player loss becomes magnified because they already struggle to get talent equal to their piers. When you struggle recruiting, retention become more important than if you were able to land top talent regularly.

MOST TEANSFERS occur this time of year when 90% of the difference maker's in High School are already signed or committed that statement makes no sense for any program.

Michigan, UNC, USC etc....are also scouting JUCO and late bloomers too and never stopped recruiting just like Arkansas.


It doesn't stop because your scholarship allotment is filled for that year class. Every single D-1 program knows attrition due to lack of PT is reality, it's not something unique to us.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2018, 11:46:20 am »

You guys kill me, when these players are coming in you guys rave about what they add to the team and how you expect them to develop. But suddenly on the way out they become no big loss, wasn't going to help anyway, more of a liability than anything.

Just like this new class coming in that is not that highly rated. You guys rave about how good they are even though the pundits don't see it that way. But let one of those same players leave and suddenly you guys will pull up the rankings that had them as 3* and declare them easily replaced. If some of you guys aren't on Anderson's payroll, you surely should be.

The class was rated a top 5 class a few months ago...with the loss of a McDonald's AA being replaced by two (high 3Star recruits) the ranking took a major hit.

This is still the highest ranked class since John Pelphrey added all those Juco's and a NBA H.S. pick that never saw the campus.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2018, 11:54:48 am »

You guys kill me, when these players are coming in you guys rave about what they add to the team and how you expect them to develop. But suddenly on the way out they become no big loss, wasn't going to help anyway, more of a liability than anything.

Just like this new class coming in that is not that highly rated. You guys rave about how good they are even though the pundits don't see it that way. But let one of those same players leave and suddenly you guys will pull up the rankings that had them as 3* and declare them easily replaced. If some of you guys aren't on Anderson's payroll, you surely should be.

I'm excited about every player that comes in, every year. Having been a Razorback fan for 50+ years I appreciate every player that chooses to be a Hog. Don't get too upset about 18, 19 year old's that chose to leave. Know how I was at that age, know how my kids were at that age, know how thousands of other kids are at that age, that I have watched grow up. I can't really see any of them that have left and proven they were much more deserving of the playing time and trust on the court that the received when they were here. Will be super excited to see the players that replace them.

I've lived for Razorback football since the mid 60's and basketball since the early 70's. I don't love coaches, don't hate coaches. Cannot hire the coach, cannot fire the coach. Will NEVER consider any player larger than the program. Will NEVER consider any 5 players larger than the program. Will never consider any coach larger than the program. Eddie was good he left, Nolan was better, he got fired. Will always be more appreciative of the player coming in to replace a leaving player than I am of the kid leaving.......simply because he's a Razorback.

That being said, I still can't identify any player that has been a terrible loss.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2018, 12:21:53 pm »

The class was rated a top 5 class a few months ago...with the loss of a McDonald's AA being replaced by two (high 3Star recruits) the ranking took a major hit.

This is still the highest ranked class since John Pelphrey added all those Juco's and a NBA H.S. pick that never saw the campus.
You do know it is as high as it is because of quantity not quality right? Only one other program ranked ahead of us has signed the number of players we have and they are ranked No. 2 last I looked. In conference the other 5  teams ranked ahead of us all have less players signed. I said the same thing about Pelphrey's large class he had signed and nobody wanted to hear it then either. The only projected game changer in the class decommitted and went else where.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2018, 12:24:21 pm »



He doesn't, at least not enough of them.
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Re: How does CMA get players to buy in to the program?
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2018, 08:59:17 pm »

You do know it is as high as it is because of quantity not quality right? Only one other program ranked ahead of us has signed the number of players we have and they are ranked No. 2 last I looked. In conference the other 5  teams ranked ahead of us all have less players signed. I said the same thing about Pelphrey's large class he had signed and nobody wanted to hear it then either. The only projected game changer in the class decommitted and went else where.

A class ranked somewhere in the early twenties and six in the SEC isn't going to be the saviors of the program or MA's job. So excuse me if I'm less then impressed. Not when I see LSU and Vandy of all schools with two five stars each coming in next season.

I might be more impressed if Perry was coming. But Mike didn't want to play the game. i guess playing the game might of took more effort.
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