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  • #101 by McKdaddy on 07 Apr 2018
  • This thread is outstanding. Hogville needs more grassguys. Great job grassguy.

    Agreed.

  • #102 by McKdaddy on 07 Apr 2018
  • I had a nice-looking fescue yard until moles infiltrated the neighborhood.  >:(
  • #103 by HogPharmer on 07 Apr 2018
  • I had a nice-looking fescue yard until moles infiltrated the neighborhood.  >:(

    I always put out some of those Triazicide granules. You can see where the moles burrow across the neighbors yard towards mine then it's like they just hit a brick wall and turn once they get to where I put that stuff out.
  • #104 by McKdaddy on 07 Apr 2018
  • I always put out some of those Triazicide granules. You can see where the moles burrow across the neighbors yard towards mine then it's like they just hit a brick wall and turn once they get to where I put that stuff out.


    I’ll look for those at Lowe’s....in the tunnels or sprinkled across the top of your lawn?
  • #105 by Ched "UglyUncle" Carpenter on 07 Apr 2018
  • Then I wonder why T Boone Pickens stadium at Okla St. has artificial turf...........

    I'm quoting you here because I didn't want to go all the way back to your first thought on grass being slower for everyone.

    The more I've thought about it I see your point and get what you are saying.

    I remember in the 80's and 90's the St. Louis Cardinals were built on speed.  Other MLB teams that had grass would let their grass grow to slow them down.  That was baseball though and it makes sense to do that.

    I get your point in football.  If you are slower than a team, slowing them down doesn't help you because you are still going to be slower too.

    I believe the thinking it that if you are playing half of your games at home, you should shape your field to your strength.  A slow ground and pound game, lets get grass, keep it high because we don't worry about speed.  Especially if most of the teams that will be coming to our house is built more on speed.

    Turf will allow you to make your cuts crisper, but you are right on the other.  Even if you slow down the other team, you are also slowing down yourself so the net effect is zero.
  • #106 by HogPharmer on 07 Apr 2018

  • I’ll look for those at Lowe’s....in the tunnels or sprinkled across the top of your lawn?

    Just spread it across your yard with a seed spreader. Just make sure it's going to rain within a couple days of putting it out. You need the rain (or sprinkler) to dissolve the granules. If you kill their food source, they evacuate quickly and go looking for their food in someone else's yard. I think it's only about $12 or so for a bag of it that'll probably cover 1/4 of an acre.
  • #107 by McKdaddy on 07 Apr 2018
  • Just spread it across your yard with a seed spreader. Just make sure it's going to rain within a couple days of putting it out. You need the rain (or sprinkler) to dissolve the granules. If you kill their food source, they evacuate quickly and go looking for their food in someone else's yard. I think it's only about $12 or so for a bag of it that'll probably cover 1/4 of an acre.

    Thanks, I look forward to trying that. I’ve used the sonic spikes, grubs, traps, my insect/pest company, and an individual trapper. These things work for a while then the mole(s) come back after a couple of months. And so it has gone for about 4 years. Our neighborhood HOA maintenance company said they won’t go away from the neighborhood until everyone treats for them. So they keep hanging out. Ugh.

    I’ll head to Lowe’s tonight. Last question, HP — what is the frequency you apply these granules?
  • #108 by longtimeHogfan on 07 Apr 2018
  • I had a nice-looking fescue yard until moles infiltrated the neighborhood.  >:(

    I've got a nice looking Fescue yard that armadillos liked to dig up.  I bought some 'grub' killing granule stuff at Lowe's, broadcast it on the yard, and within 3 days I had dead grubs by the dozens scattered all over my yard.  The armadillos are digging in my neighbors yard today.   
  • #109 by HogPharmer on 07 Apr 2018
  • Thanks, I look forward to trying that. I’ve used the sonic spikes, grubs, traps, my insect/pest company, and an individual trapper. These things work for a while then the mole(s) come back after a couple of months. And so it has gone for about 4 years. Our neighborhood HOA maintenance company said they won’t go away from the neighborhood until everyone treats for them. So they keep hanging out. Ugh.

    I’ll head to Lowe’s tonight. Last question, HP — what is the frequency you apply these granules?

    I don't do it as often as I should... Usually by the end of the summer, I've given up on maintaining my lawn... It's hard to put work into it especially when its 100+ degrees outside and all your grass is fried. But I would say you should probably put those granules out at minimum every 6 months. They seem to always last me 4 to 6 months before the varmints start coming back.
  • #110 by Jim on 07 Apr 2018
  • Just spread it across your yard with a seed spreader. Just make sure it's going to rain within a couple days of putting it out. You need the rain (or sprinkler) to dissolve the granules. If you kill their food source, they evacuate quickly and go looking for their food in someone else's yard. I think it's only about $12 or so for a bag of it that'll probably cover 1/4 of an acre.

    EXCELLENT advice, HP!!  I've been watching some moles pop-up all over my backyard and was told to trap the critters to properly get rid of them.  I had no idea there were pellets I could spread.  I may be headed to Lowe's later today as well.  Thanks again!
  • #111 by SwineGrind on 07 Apr 2018
  • I wonder why grass?  Usually speed guys like turf. 

    It could be a safety issue.  Turf can be softer, but those little black beads can get in your lungs and cause serious problems.
    THIS times a million!!!!!
  • #112 by WorfHog on 07 Apr 2018
  • If it were up to the Arkansas state legislature, the UA would say we want grass and the legislature would take 4 years to make it happen.

    Gotta vote the bums holding it up out of office.
  • #113 by Wild Bill Hog on 07 Apr 2018
  • Pepsi fan and stock holder here.  But I really don't care that much.  I just get a kick out of people who get all worked up over it. 

    You do realize you are the only person making a serious post on this subject don't you?
  • #114 by twistitup on 07 Apr 2018
  • We should plant English Ivy. It will slow the opponent down, plus no other team in the nation plays on English Ivy

  • #115 by Wild Bill Hog on 07 Apr 2018
  • Les Miles says grass tastes better than turf.
  • #116 by HogPharmer on 07 Apr 2018
  • EXCELLENT advice, HP!!  I've been watching some moles pop-up all over my backyard and was told to trap the critters to properly get rid of them.  I had no idea there were pellets I could spread.  I may be headed to Lowe's later today as well.  Thanks again!

    I hope it helps. I don’t consider myself an expert on lawn care by any means. I hit my lawn with weed and feed (gotta be Scott’s brand... try to save a buck and buy a different brand and you’ll regret it 6 week’s later) in late April and spread the bug killer to starve the moles so they move along and that’s about it. But I have some good looking grass for at least a few months out of the year.
  • #117 by jvanhorn on 07 Apr 2018
  • I would like to see it go back to grass. Old school. Football was meant to be played on grass and in the open.
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    Grass!  Almost every Major League Baseball team has gone from turf back to grass--there is a reason.
  • #118 by Rudy Baylor on 07 Apr 2018
  • Dude... dont tangle with Benny. He's 100 times the poster you are.


    Okay Guaranteed Mike Norvell Guy
  • #119 by trippigs on 08 Apr 2018
  • Grass is great.....
  • #120 by southeasthog on 08 Apr 2018

  • I remember in the 80's and 90's the St. Louis Cardinals were built on speed.  Other MLB teams that had grass would let their grass grow to slow them down.  That was baseball though and it makes sense to do that.


    I am a long time Cubs fan. Started watching them in the late 70's when WGN carried all the games. I remember an announcer saying "It looks like they mowed the infield with a helicopter" referring to how tall it was.
  • #121 by twistitup on 08 Apr 2018
  • #122 by Hawg2afault on 08 Apr 2018
  • I have some of the old Razorback turf in my backyard.  I got several rolls when they pulled it all up. 
  • #123 by ballinhog on 10 Apr 2018
  • I would be the happiest guy on hogville if we went back to natural grass.

    I’ve always liked grass more than the turf. To me football was meant to be played on real grass. If you’re in the 4th quarter of a football game and have no grass stains, that’s no fun. When it’s raining and you’re in the 4th quarter and no one is muddy, that’s no fun.

    I hope this happens. I hope it happens this season
  • #124 by prattville pig on 10 Apr 2018
  • grass makes me happy too
  • #125 by LZH on 10 Apr 2018
  • Didn't DMac, MJ and those teams play on grass?....or had we changed to turf by then?
  • #126 by twistitup on 10 Apr 2018
  • Didn't DMac, MJ and those teams play on grass?....or had we changed to turf by then?

    Dmac...MJ?

    Lovin' dat Grass
  • #127 by jkstock04 on 10 Apr 2018
  • Didn't DMac, MJ and those teams play on grass?....or had we changed to turf by then?
    We didn’t change to the fancy artificial turf until Petrino arrived. I would wager a lot of old school people still think it’s like 1970s putt putt style stuff, which is the furthest from the truth.

    I never got a chance to play on any of it as it was a little before my time. But I think it would be a pretty nice surface to play on.

    The last thing this team needs in immediate fashion is to be slowed down even more, we are slow enough as it is. I would be interested to see a list of the teams that play on real grass who also employ a spread/run & gun offense.
  • #128 by LZH on 10 Apr 2018
  • Dmac...MJ?

    Lovin' dat Grass

    Ha!

    We didn’t change to the fancy artificial turf until Petrino arrived. I would wager a lot of old school people still think it’s like 1970s putt putt style stuff, which is the furthest from the truth.

    I never got a chance to play on any of it as it was a little before my time. But I think it would be a pretty nice surface to play on.

    The last thing this team needs in immediate fashion is to be slowed down even more, we are slow enough as it is. I would be interested to see a list of the teams that play on real grass who also employ a spread/run & gun offense.

    I am probably completely wrong, but I am thinking LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and possibly Alabama and Tennessee play on grass.
  • #129 by Pig in the Pokey on 10 Apr 2018
  • Gotta vote the bums holding it up out of office.
    problem is, you just replace them with new bums.
  • #130 by grassguy on 10 Apr 2018

  • I am probably completely wrong, but I am thinking LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and possibly Alabama and Tennessee play on grass.

    We are currently in the company of Kentucky, Missouri, and Vanderbilt as the only schools in the SEC that have a synthetic turf field in their stadium.
  • #131 by DeltaBoy on 10 Apr 2018
  • I love Grass and I hope we return to it.
  • #132 by GuvHog on 10 Apr 2018
  • We are currently in the company of Kentucky, Missouri, and Vanderbilt as the only schools in the SEC that have a synthetic turf field in their stadium.

    Note that most all of the SEC schools that have natural grass surfaces in their football stadiums are located in warmer climate areas. Tennessee is the only exception. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why most of the northern schools in the SEC prefer Synthetic Turf.
  • #133 by WeHogs on 10 Apr 2018
  • We are currently in the company of Kentucky, Missouri, and Vanderbilt as the only schools in the SEC that have a synthetic turf field in their stadium.

    This would make sense based on where we are located along with those schools. Tenn is talking about going to turf as well.

    Its much easier to grow grass in AL, FL, LA, Texas and Miss State is known for their turf management.

    UGA built their stadium E-W so the sun would help with the grass growth.  I believe our stadium is the complete opposite.

    Ole Miss is another school that has the artificial turf. Texas has turf as well.

    Do people not remember how terrible our grass used to look?  The field was half brown.
  • #134 by GuvHog on 10 Apr 2018
  • This would make sense based on where we are located along with those schools. Tenn is talking about going to turf as well.

    Its much easier to grow grass in AL, FL, LA, Texas and Miss State is known for their turf management.

    UGA built their stadium E-W so the sun would help with the grass growth.  I believe our stadium is the complete opposite.

    Ole Miss is another school that has the artificial turf. Texas has turf as well.

    Do people not remember how terrible our grass used to look?  The field was half brown.

    Good post. Some have obviously forgotten that in addition to Petrino wanting Synthetic Turf, another reason for the change to Turf that was mentioned at the time is that the Grass field was extremely difficult to maintain late in the season. I don't see them going back to grass. You are correct about Tennessee looking at going to Synthetic Turf. Their location in the Mountains makes maintaining a Grass Surface late in the season very difficult too.
  • #135 by grassguy on 10 Apr 2018
  • This would make sense based on where we are located along with those schools. Tenn is talking about going to turf as well.

    Its much easier to grow grass in AL, FL, LA, Texas and Miss State is known for their turf management.

    UGA built their stadium E-W so the sun would help with the grass growth.  I believe our stadium is the complete opposite.

    Ole Miss is another school that has the artificial turf. Texas has turf as well.

    Do people not remember how terrible our grass used to look?  The field was half brown.

    Ole Miss returned to natural grass prior to the 2016 season. There have been great strides made genetically in Bermudagrasses that allow them to succeed in more northern climates since we last had grass in the stadium 10 years ago.
  • #136 by LZH on 10 Apr 2018
  • We are currently in the company of Kentucky, Missouri, and Vanderbilt as the only schools in the SEC that have a synthetic turf field in their stadium.

    I wonder if any facility on the planet still has AstroTurf. I played on that crap in WMS in the '84 title game. Can't believe someone thought that was a good idea. Getting tackled on your kitchen floor is less painful.
  • #137 by Razor1997 on 10 Apr 2018
  • I wonder if any facility on the planet still has AstroTurf. I played on that crap in WMS in the '84 title game. Can't believe someone thought that was a good idea. Getting tackled on your kitchen floor is less painful.

    The AstroTurf brand produces a newer style of turf now which is in use at quite a few places.  I don't think anyone still has the old 1970s style short-pile AstroTurf over concrete.
  • #138 by DLUXHOG on 10 Apr 2018
  • Our losing ways started with that poison Pepsi.  We MUST get coke back.

    And here I thought those “ways” started with running off Holtz & Hatfield and then hiring noodlehead nutt....
  • #139 by cityhog on 10 Apr 2018
  • I believe that the grass people and artificial turf people are actually the same people and much like razor blades and toothbrushes, they need to upgrade is cyclical. We'll put in grass and then in 10 years replace with the newest, greatest artificial turf ever invented.
  • #140 by HogPharmer on 10 Apr 2018
  • Ole Miss returned to natural grass prior to the 2016 season. There have been great strides made genetically in Bermudagrasses that allow them to succeed in more northern climates since we last had grass in the stadium 10 years ago.

    Yeah, Ole Miss is big on the natural "grass"....

    Under the 1961 international Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs and the 1970 Controlled Substances Act (CSA), the federal government is the single “agent” allowed to provide marijuana for research. As of now, the DEA has only authorized one grower, the University of Mississippi, which grows marijuana under contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA). As part of this contract, UM holds a DEA Schedule-I Bulk Manufacturer registration to cultivate plants for this purpose.

    https://pharmacy.olemiss.edu/marijuana/
  • #141 by twistitup on 10 Apr 2018
  • Yeah, Ole Miss is big on the natural "grass"....

    Under the 1961 international Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs and the 1970 Controlled Substances Act (CSA), the federal government is the single “agent” allowed to provide marijuana for research. As of now, the DEA has only authorized one grower, the University of Mississippi, which grows marijuana under contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA). As part of this contract, UM holds a DEA Schedule-I Bulk Manufacturer registration to cultivate plants for this purpose.

    https://pharmacy.olemiss.edu/marijuana/

    It is Mississippi - I mean...

    https://www.wptv.com/news/national/mississippi-sonic-asks-customers-to-stop-smoking-weed-in-drive-thru
  • #142 by HogPharmer on 10 Apr 2018
  • #143 by Hoggish1 on 10 Apr 2018
  • Much grass.
  • #144 by Hoggish1 on 10 Apr 2018
  • IIRC turf is actually cheaper to maintain in the long run than grass. I remember a discussion about that before. Grass has much more constant maintenance.

    Fine.  Switch to coke and with the increased revenue, maintain the grass.
  • #145 by Ched "UglyUncle" Carpenter on 10 Apr 2018
  • Fine.  Switch to coke and with the increased revenue, maintain the grass.

    Can't go wrong with coke and grass.
  • #146 by Tejano Jawg on 10 Apr 2018
  • Here's some turf trivia…the old Razorback Stadium turf (can't remember what era, probably the early Holtz years) had a lean to it, or a direction that the 'blades' slanted. For example, if you rubbed it with your hand from west to east it would be smooth. But east to west would feel rough, sorta against the grain.

    I remember this because it would affect how well players could cut. Sometimes they'd spin out and lose their footing, and a broadcast dude might say that's because of the direction of the grain/slant.
  • #147 by bennyl08 on 10 Apr 2018
  • https://wolterskluwer.com/company/newsroom/news/health/2010/10/is-field-turf-faster-than-natural-grass.html

    Study showed that forty times aren't statistically different between turf and grass. However, agility times increased by about 3%.

    So, at least with the experimental design they used, neither makes you straight line faster, but turf helps you change direction faster. This could be fast teams would see a bigger benefit than power teams. The faster team would use more quick screens and such requiring wiggle players like Adams while the power team would be more north south and not have as many opportunities to utilize the enhanced agility.
  • #148 by twistitup on 11 Apr 2018
  • https://wolterskluwer.com/company/newsroom/news/health/2010/10/is-field-turf-faster-than-natural-grass.html

    Study showed that forty times aren't statistically different between turf and grass. However, agility times increased by about 3%.

    So, at least with the experimental design they used, neither makes you straight line faster, but turf helps you change direction faster. This could be fast teams would see a bigger benefit than power teams. The faster team would use more quick screens and such requiring wiggle players like Adams while the power team would be more north south and not have as many opportunities to utilize the enhanced agility.

    Great analysis Benny....tell me again about "wiggle players".

    Why are you on a message board and not coaching? With your level of enhanced intelligence ,the sky is the limit
  • #149 by bennyl08 on 11 Apr 2018
  • Great analysis Benny....tell me again about "wiggle players".

    Joe Adams is a wiggle player in contrast to say a Jarius Wright who was more of a n-s player. Wiggle players use spins, and jukes, and stutter steps. They are dancing out on the field.

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    Why are you on a message board and not coaching? With your level of enhanced intelligence ,the sky is the limit

    Doesn't take "enhanced intelligence" to sit back and comment on work that somebody else has done. As for why I'm not coaching? I prefer being the researcher. It's what I enjoy.
  • #150 by twistitup on 11 Apr 2018
  • I prefer being the researcher.

    Sweet
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