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ST Coach
« on: September 22, 2018, 08:24:00 pm »

When the F are Hog coaches gonna learn you need to have a Special Teams coach??? 1 blocked punt, another should have been, 1 punt return setup a TD for them (albeit a missed BIB call) AND a missed FG. It's 1/3 of the game, and it has cost the Hogs time and time again. Not to mention last week when a former Hog assistant who is now ST coach at UNT absolutely burned us with the punt return heard round the world. Get somebody that knows what they're doing to coach the specialists, NOW!

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2018, 08:26:30 pm »

Yea agreed we need someone whose focus is 100% ST

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Hogsmith

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2018, 08:37:14 pm »

Who currently coaches special teams?
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Maynard G Krebs

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2018, 08:38:43 pm »

Who currently coaches special teams?

Obviously nobody

Hogs GoneWild

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2018, 08:39:12 pm »

They share duties. There isn’t a dedicated coach for special teams
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2018, 08:42:19 pm »

They share duties. There isn’t a dedicated coach for special teams

1st coach: “Wait...I thought you were teaching them how to block for a punt?” 

2nd coach: “No, I thought you were.”

1st coach: “so who was?”

Every other person on the planet: “obviously no one.”

Hogsmith

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2018, 08:44:52 pm »

Which coaches share special teams duties?
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JackJohnson

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2018, 08:50:34 pm »

I’m just glad former SMU and Chex buddy who was an off the field coach was able to get that 10th coaching spot instead of a dedicated special teams coach
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2018, 08:51:19 pm »

KICK IT IN THE FRUCKIFNFJFJB ENDZONE, EVERY DANG TEAM IN THE COUNTRY DOES IT

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2018, 08:51:49 pm »

Kick it out of bounds at this point. Good God

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2018, 08:51:59 pm »

If we could play decent ST we are in this ball game

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2018, 08:52:09 pm »

Clearly he’s not coaching...

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2018, 08:52:18 pm »

Awful. If we were just average on special teams we would be in this til the end.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2018, 08:52:30 pm »

KICK IT IN THE FRUCKIFNFJFJB ENDZONE, EVERY DANG TEAM IN THE COUNTRY DOES IT

I can think of one that doesn’t.
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JackJohnson

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2018, 08:52:35 pm »

I’m just glad we gave this K a scholarship
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2018, 08:53:26 pm »

How do we have no kickers
And cannot cover

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2018, 08:53:50 pm »

This would actually be a game if Special Teams weren't part of it.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2018, 08:55:51 pm »

Morris getting exposed by the lack of attention to detail. This is big boy football.

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2018, 08:57:04 pm »

I simply cannot understand how 5 measly yards causes Razorback coaches to be absolutely stupid!
Kick the ball into the end zone and let them have it at the 25 instead of giving up HUGE chunks of return yards.
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We don’t need a Special Teams Coach
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2018, 09:09:06 pm »

Until we get some special teams players.
We badly need a kicker, punter, long snapper and for that matter we need a center on offense. Clary is not a center. Both he and Froholdt roll too many to the QB and it’s a wonder some of the snaps haven’t sailed over the QB’s head.

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Special Teams Coach
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2018, 09:42:51 pm »

Go get one

Mr. Porkleone

Re: Special Teams Coach
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2018, 09:44:59 pm »

Cost up 17 min tonight

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Re: Special Teams Coach
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2018, 10:05:35 pm »

Special teams played dismal tonight.  Why can't we get a kicker to kick the ball into the end zone so it won't be fielded.  Our guys also cannot block.  It is about as bad as I've seen it.  The defense comes through our O line like a sieve.  Storey is going to get hurt before the year is over with if the O line does not provide him better protection.  We have no speed, it is very noticeable.  Our receivers are horrible, cannot run pass routes, and get no separation.  The overall talent we have is visibly worse than their players.  It's bad, it's very bad when Kentucky is having a much better year than Ark.  It's going to be a long year for the Hogs....and for Hog fans.  Woo pig.       
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Special Teams
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2018, 08:14:19 am »

I had an ant colony on my counter recently and all were working in unison. When I touched the trap, they went crazy. No order, just scrambling.  Reminded me of our teams kick coverage.  Plenty of players around the ball, just scrambling around out of position and not driving to the ball carrior. Coaching beeline group destruction is lacking. It must improve!
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Re: Special Teams
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2018, 08:58:52 am »

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2018, 09:15:24 am »

Morris getting exposed by the lack of attention to detail. This is big boy football.

Some coaches believed to be great coaches have gotten burned by special teams play including the current coach of the number one team in the country. The words “wide right” have been outlawed in Tallahassee also.
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CCM needs to steal the Special Teams Coordinator back from UNT..!
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2018, 09:16:06 am »

 CCM needs to steal the Special Teams Coordinator back from UNT..! If not him specifically he needs to get someone who eats, lives and breathes that darn.!!!
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Re: CCM needs to steal the Special Teams Coordinator back from UNT..!
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2018, 09:17:25 am »

Did'nt see the other thread on this... Oop's..
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2018, 09:19:05 am »

 CCM needs to steal the Special Teams Coordinator back from UNT..! If not him specifically he needs to get someone who eats, lives and breathes that darn.!!!
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JackJohnson

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2018, 10:04:16 am »

Morris hires his buddy Mark Smith to the 10th position instead of a ST coach.  The SMU Maria of Smith, Craddock and Fry won’t ever be fired no matter how clearly overmatched they are

It is what it is...
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Ironhawg

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2018, 10:35:32 am »

I could be completely wrong, but didn't CCM hire the 10th coach to be an additional recruiter?
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lakecityhog

Re: ST Coach
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2018, 10:40:09 am »

I could be completely wrong, but didn't CCM hire the 10th coach to be an additional recruiter?

Yep! We have to get more guys like Caldwell, good recruiter/great coach.
If you can't coach them it does no good to recruit them. I said the same thing about Smith on BB's staff. Our receivers didn't get better until Enos took control of them.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2018, 10:43:33 am »

Yep! We have to get more guys like Caldwell, good recruiter/great coach.
If you can't coach them it does no good to recruit them. I said the same thing about Smith on BB's staff. Our receivers didn't get better until Enos took control of them.

I see what you're saying, and don't entirely disagree, except that with our current talent level we need a massive influx of talent very quickly.  I can see, at least temporarily, putting an emphasis on recruiting. 
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2018, 10:47:53 am »

CCM needs to steal the Special Teams Coordinator back from UNT..! If not him specifically he needs to get someone who eats, lives and breathes that darn.!!!

1.  our punter takes waaaay tooooo loooong to kick it.  any team could get to him.
2. step up behind the 3 man wall and kick it FAST
3. hit the guy catching the ball. I know that they are gun shy but HIT HIM! and hit him HARD.

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2018, 11:16:32 am »

1.  our punter takes waaaay tooooo loooong to kick it.  any team could get to him.
2. step up behind the 3 man wall and kick it FAST
3. hit the guy catching the ball. I know that they are gun shy but HIT HIM! and hit him HARD.



Better yet, kick it to where nobody has a chance of returning it.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2018, 11:25:30 am »

It's not coaching. It's a personnel problem. Morris needs to bite the bullet and put more of his starters on punt coverage and kickoffs. The kids they have out there now are too slow and they can't tackle.

Not sure the punting problems can be solved. As has already been pointed out it takes that kid forever to get off a punt and when he does Arkansas loses 15 yards or so on almost every exchange.

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2018, 11:25:48 am »

If we could play decent ST we are in this ball game

Absolutely.  Offense deserves some credit.  Fewer turnovers equal much, much better O-play.  Defense played great.  But if its true and Arkansas doesn't have a pure ST coach then OPEN UP THE CHECKBOOK AND GO HIRE ONE!!!!!     Our special teams have absolutely killed us this year.  Its one thing when the offensive players stumble and don't get a first down and we have to punt.  But its up to the ST to be proficient to block for the kicker and let them do their job without having blockers in their face before they even have the ball! 

We saw CCM respond with better offensive play against Auburn.  Now we need to see some major corrections on the special teams play.  Things are happening.  The team is coming around this coaching staff.  Players now realize the pity party is over and they need to get on board.  But ST are simply unacceptable.  Recruit, recruit, recruit.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2018, 11:35:33 am »

It's not coaching. It's a personnel problem. Morris needs to bite the bullet and put more of his starters on punt coverage and kickoffs. The kids they have out there now are too slow and they can't tackle.

Not sure the punting problems can be solved. As has already been pointed out it takes that kid forever to get off a punt and when he does Arkansas loses 15 yards or so on almost every exchange.

That seems like it is coaching!

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2018, 12:06:58 pm »

That seems like it is coaching!
Because it is.
My dad coached special teams and his punter was never blocked. He had his punters take one step and punt.

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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2018, 12:39:57 pm »

It's not coaching. It's a personnel problem. Morris needs to bite the bullet and put more of his starters on punt coverage and kickoffs. The kids they have out there now are too slow and they can't tackle.

Not sure the punting problems can be solved. As has already been pointed out it takes that kid forever to get off a punt and when he does Arkansas loses 15 yards or so on almost every exchange.
Both punt blocks were by the same guy who lined up in the same spot and ran untouched twice.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2018, 02:44:50 pm »

Awful. If we were just average on special teams we would be in this til the end.

What's sad…I've said this very thing for a few years. Probably about our D…if we were anything but horrendous, we've had enough skilled playmakers on O to make a game of it.

And what does it mean when you strive to be average? Our special teams, going back to Petrino and Nutt, are either phenomenal or poor, never in between. We'll have All-Americans Felix Jones and Joe Adams, then give up a kickoff return touchdown to turn a game. Or, my top special teams blunder in recent memory—Bielema's bad substitution that let our game-winning chip shot fieldgoal get blocked at Mississippi State…robbing Brandon Allen of a win in maybe the best QB performance ever.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2018, 04:14:49 pm »

What's sad…I've said this very thing for a few years. Probably about our D…if we were anything but horrendous, we've had enough skilled playmakers on O to make a game of it.

And what does it mean when you strive to be average? Our special teams, going back to Petrino and Nutt, are either phenomenal or poor, never in between. We'll have All-Americans Felix Jones and Joe Adams, then give up a kickoff return touchdown to turn a game. Or, my top special teams blunder in recent memory—Bielema's bad substitution that let our game-winning chip shot fieldgoal get blocked at Mississippi State…robbing Brandon Allen of a win in maybe the best QB performance ever.
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Re: ST Coach
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2018, 05:08:20 pm »

Both punt blocks were by the same guy who lined up in the same spot and ran untouched twice.

I'm pretty sure that on one of the blocks, the guy ran past Patton who was doing his best imitation of a bullfighter.    Olé!
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